Re: [Python-ideas] Consistency in naming [was Re: ...ALL CAPS] (off-list)

2019-02-18 Thread Carl Smith
I shouldn't let it bother me, but that "Sent from my iPhone" cruft really gets under my skin. -- Carl Smith carl.in...@gmail.com On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 11:17, Paul Moore wrote: > On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 05:36, Christopher Barker > wrote: > > > > This is getting pretty off toipic, but I want to po

Re: [Python-ideas] Consistency in naming [was Re: ...ALL CAPS] (off-list)

2019-02-04 Thread Paul Moore
On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 05:36, Christopher Barker wrote: > > This is getting pretty off toipic, but I want to point out hat as a rule, > Python has been critisised more for having too MUCH cnage than too little > over the last few years: [...] > Finally, what the heck is wrong with datetime.now ?

Re: [Python-ideas] Consistency in naming [was Re: ...ALL CAPS] (off-list)

2019-02-03 Thread Christopher Barker
This is getting pretty off toipic, but I want to point out hat as a rule, Python has been critisised more for having too MUCH cnage than too little over the last few years: The py2 -> 3 transition Adding "yet another" formatting option (f-strings) Adding := The async stuff Granted, these are bigg

Re: [Python-ideas] Consistency in naming [was Re: ...ALL CAPS] (off-list)

2019-02-03 Thread James Lu
I agree with everything all of you have said in reply to me. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2019, at 7:34 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote: > >> On 2/3/19 6:01 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> (1) Taking the group discussion off-list should be done rarely, and >> usually only for personal messages that s

Re: [Python-ideas] Consistency in naming [was Re: ...ALL CAPS] (off-list)

2019-02-03 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 2/3/19 6:01 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: (1) Taking the group discussion off-list should be done rarely, and usually only for personal messages that shouldn't be shared publically, or by mutual agreement for off-topic discussions. I can't see Ned's original comment in either my inbox, or at the

Re: [Python-ideas] Consistency in naming [was Re: ...ALL CAPS] (off-list)

2019-02-03 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 10:02 AM Steven D'Aprano wrote: > (3) In the thread about improving communication, I mentioned that the > easier it is to make comments, the more likely it is for people to make > poor-quality comments. In my experience, posting from a phone is one of > those tools that enco

Re: [Python-ideas] Consistency in naming [was Re: ...ALL CAPS] (off-list)

2019-02-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
James, Ned, and everyone else, (I'm intentionally leaving the subject line untouched, but since James' message was sent to the list, I'm replying to the list.) In another thread, you (James) asked for ways to not feel like such a n00b, and you attempted (with mixed success) to start a discussio

Re: [Python-ideas] Consistency in naming [was Re: ...ALL CAPS] (off-list)

2019-02-03 Thread Ned Batchelder
James, frankly, it sounds to me like you have found things you don't like about Python, and are frustrated that your ideas here have not been celebrated.  That's far from "decline."  The process for changing Python is fundamentally conservative, which can be frustrating.  I understand that.  I

Re: [Python-ideas] Consistency in naming [was Re: ...ALL CAPS] (off-list)

2019-02-03 Thread James Lu
Python’s decline is in not growing. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2019, at 11:20 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote: > > James, you say below, "This kind of readability issue, datetime.now, is an > example of what’s contributing to Python’s decline." > > Do you have any evidence of Python's decline?