Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-07 Thread Paul Moore
On 7 February 2018 at 19:35, Steve Dower wrote: > Checking the Version (!=SysVersion) property should be enough (and perhaps > we need to set it properly on install). The launcher currently only works > with PythonCore entries anyway, so no need to worry about other

Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-07 Thread Steve Dower
my Windows phone From: Paul Moore Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 7:37 To: Alex Walters Cc: Python-Ideas Subject: Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default I don't think so. As an example, what registry keys would Anaconda write to say that Release 5.2.1.7 is a pre

Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-07 Thread Paul Moore
gt;> Cc: Steve Barnes <gadgetst...@live.co.uk>; Python-Ideas > id...@python.org> >> Subject: Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set >> default >> > ... >> >> IMO the biggest technical issue with this is that as far as I can see >>

Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-07 Thread Alex Walters
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Moore [mailto:p.f.mo...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 4:15 AM > To: Alex Walters <tritium-l...@sdamon.com> > Cc: Steve Barnes <gadgetst...@live.co.uk>; Python-Ideas id...@python.org> > Subject: Re: [P

Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-07 Thread Paul Moore
On 7 February 2018 at 05:36, Alex Walters wrote: > While this thread has focused on the location and means of managing py.ini, > I think there is a more general solution that should be considered to the > original problem, as described. The problem isn't that it's

Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-06 Thread Alex Walters
-ideas-bounces+tritium- > list=sdamon@python.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes > Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 3:11 AM > To: Python-Ideas <python-ideas@python.org> > Subject: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default > > When a new version of pytho

Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-06 Thread Alex Walters
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Moore [mailto:p.f.mo...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 6:31 AM > To: Alex Walters <tritium-l...@sdamon.com> > Cc: Jan Claeys <li...@janc.be>; Python-Ideas <python-ideas@python.org> > Subject: Re: [Pyth

Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-06 Thread Steve Barnes
as] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default I'm reluctant to expand the feature set of the launcher in this direction. It's written in C, and tightly focused on being a lightweight launcher. Adding code to manage user options and persist them to the py.ini file would be a non-trivial overh

Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-06 Thread Stephan Houben
Hi all, Just want to point out that if tools can accept a config file in a cross-platform standard location (perhaps in addition to a platform-specific one), then that is incredibly useful. Just search on Github for "dotfiles", and see how many people store their configuration in a git repo, so

Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-06 Thread Paul Moore
On 6 February 2018 at 15:23, Eric Fahlgren wrote: > Right, different planets, but orbiting the same star. I was thinking about > the consolidation of the Windows registry layout a year or two ago, don't > recall who spearheaded that (Steve Dower?). In any case, if the

Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-06 Thread Eric Fahlgren
On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Paul Moore wrote: > There are a few different points here: > > 1. There's no relationship between pip and the py launcher - they are > separate tools/projects. Any co-operation in terms of file locations > would have to be a result of common

Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-06 Thread Paul Moore
There are a few different points here: 1. There's no relationship between pip and the py launcher - they are separate tools/projects. Any co-operation in terms of file locations would have to be a result of common standards. Those would normally be platform standards, not Python ones. 2. On

Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-06 Thread Eric Fahlgren
My only request for change would be to consolidate the various tools' behavior wrt their .ini file locations. Pip, for example, wants the file in ~/pip/pip.ini, while py.exe (on Windows) wants its py.ini in $LOCALAPPDATA. If they were all in a common location (or the same file with separate

Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-06 Thread Paul Moore
I'm reluctant to expand the feature set of the launcher in this direction. It's written in C, and tightly focused on being a lightweight launcher. Adding code to manage user options and persist them to the py.ini file would be a non-trivial overhead, as well as being hard to maintain (because C

Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-06 Thread Alex Walters
ys > Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 10:47 AM > To: python-ideas@python.org > Subject: Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set > default > > On Mon, 2018-02-05 at 11:04 +, Paul Moore wrote: > > On 5 February 2018 at 08:10, Steve Barnes <gadgetst.

Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-05 Thread Franklin? Lee
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 6:04 AM, Paul Moore wrote: > On 5 February 2018 at 08:10, Steve Barnes wrote: >> When a new version of python is in alpha/beta it is often desirable to >> have it installed for tests but remain on a previous version for day to

Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-05 Thread Jan Claeys
On Mon, 2018-02-05 at 11:04 +, Paul Moore wrote: > On 5 February 2018 at 08:10, Steve Barnes > wrote: > > When a new version of python is in alpha/beta it is often desirable > > to have it installed for tests but remain on a previous version for > > day to day use. > >

Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-05 Thread Steve Barnes
On 05/02/2018 11:04, Paul Moore wrote: > On 5 February 2018 at 08:10, Steve Barnes wrote: >> When a new version of python is in alpha/beta it is often desirable to >> have it installed for tests but remain on a previous version for day to >> day use. >> >> However,

Re: [Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-05 Thread Paul Moore
On 5 February 2018 at 08:10, Steve Barnes wrote: > When a new version of python is in alpha/beta it is often desirable to > have it installed for tests but remain on a previous version for day to > day use. > > However, currently the Windows py launcher defaults to the

[Python-ideas] Possible Enhancement to py Launcher - set default

2018-02-05 Thread Steve Barnes
When a new version of python is in alpha/beta it is often desirable to have it installed for tests but remain on a previous version for day to day use. However, currently the Windows py launcher defaults to the highest version that it finds, which means that unless you are very careful you