I would like to announce Guppy-PE 0.1
The first version of Guppy-PE, a programming environment providing
object and heap memory sizing and analysis and comes with a
prototypical specification language that can be used to formally
specify aspects of Python programs and generate tests and
add
ftp.set_debuglevel(3)
so you can see what the goes on the wire (without that information, it's hard
to tell if it's a bug in the library or a glitch in your server).
/F
Hello Fredrik ,
thank you for your reply. I did a ftp.set_debuglevel(3) and ftp.nlst()
now prints:
Steve Holden wrote:
Now, see, that's the thing. The more ways there are to write the same
program, the harder any given program will be to understand.
This is indeed a fairly deliberate approach in the Python world, and
contrasts with languages where readability is low because of the
Magnus Lycka wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, find a need to shut other up ?
Oh, find a need to get the last word?
/Magnus
P.S. Yes, this *is* a test.
Looks like you hooked him, Magnus ;-)
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Duncan Booth wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for the (k,v) vs (v,k), I still don't think it is a good example. I
can always use index to access the tuple elements and most other
functions expect the first element to be the key. For example :
a=d.items()
do something about a
b =
Christoph Zwerschke wrote:
Fuzzyman schrieb:
d.keys() will still return a copy of the list, so d.keys()[i] will
still be slower than d.sequence[i]
Right, I forgot that. Bengt suggested to implement __call__ as well as
__getitem__ and __setitem__ for keys, values and items.
In this
The Eternal Squire wrote:
PyGame is your best bet for pure graphics. Simple shapes can be done
in just a few statements.
the same applies to Tkinter, of course.
from Tkinter import *
# set things up
c = Canvas(); c.pack()
# draw stuff
c.create_polygon((0, 100, 50, 0,
Op 2005-11-24, Mike Meyer schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The usual response is That's not the Python way. That's not calling
someone dumb, just pointing out that they don't yet fully understand
the Python way.
That is not the Python way, is just saying
Steve Holden wrote:
Magnus Lycka wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, find a need to shut other up ?
Oh, find a need to get the last word?
/Magnus
P.S. Yes, this *is* a test.
Looks like you hooked him, Magnus ;-)
and he is permenantly hooked
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replace('haber', random.choice('tener', 'hacer', 'lograr'))
Mi espanol es peor que mi python.
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Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 12:51:34 +, Duncan Booth wrote:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
While outwardly they apear to offer a technique for making software
more reliable there are two shortcomings I'm leery of. First, no
verification program can verify itself;
That's not a
Nico Grubert wrote:
*cmd* 'NLST'
*put* 'NLST\r\n'
*get* '150 About to open data connection.\r\n'
*resp* '150 About to open data connection.'
*retr* ''
*get* '226 Transfer complete.\r\n'
*resp* '226 Transfer complete.'
[]
it's not obvious how Python could translate '' to anything other
Op 2005-11-24, Mike Meyer schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Different programming styles are appropriate for different
tasks, different times and different places, different people.
And like morality,
Op 2005-11-24, Delaney, Timothy (Tim) schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
And this is the crux of it - the majority of such proposals come from
people who apparently haven't actually used python that much, and are
trying to impose things from other languages onto it. There's nothing
wrong with
Sure - that was just an example of mutating the keys list without
having direct access to it.
If keys was implemented as an object (with a ``__call__`` method) then
we could also implement sequence methods on it - making it easier to
mutate the keys/values/items directly.
All the best,
Fuzzyman
I wrote this very simple program that checks a directory and makes a
list of files that surpass a given size.
I tried to compile it using py2exe.
I used py2exe before with more complex programs without any problem.
Now, although my program works fine when I run it from PythonWin, it
won't compile
metiu wrote:
Say I have a console app that does something in three steps:
- opens a file
- transfers the file through a serial port
- does some elaborations
and I want to build a GUI around it that, for example, sets the file
name to open or starts the different steps.
I started using
Antoon Pardon wrote:
Op 2005-11-24, Mike Meyer schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Different programming styles are appropriate for different
tasks, different times and different places, different people.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
And this, again from the doc(about mapping objects):
A mapping object maps immutable values to arbitrary objects.
Seems that is questionable too.
a=(1,[])
d={}
d[a]=1
again would give TypeError, list object are unhashable.
That's a good example showing that the
Yes, I'll try to give you an example:
you have a compression utility that works as a standard *nix filter, so
it takes something from stdin and gives it back compressed to stdout
you like to use it as such, because it's nice to call it from the
command line
now someone finds your utility quite
Hello
I have problem with HtmlWindow and Widgets (wxPython).
When I put on HtmlWindow TextCtrl all is ok, but when I try
to use ComboBox then all controls not refresh.
Where is problem?
Thenks for help and sorry for my english ;)
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Alex Martelli wrote:
Fuzzyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is already an update method of course. :-)
Slicing an ordered dictionary is interesting - but how many people are
actually going to use it ? (What's your use case)
I detest and abhor almost-sequences which can't be sliced (I
KvS wrote:
Hi all,
I have a wxPython GUI consisting of a wxWindow - wxPanel - set of
widgets. I need to catch pressed keys no matter which widget has focus,
so I've attached an event handler to the panel but I can't seem to find
a way to do some kind of collective sending through of the key
Sure - that was just an example of mutating the keys list without
having direct access to it.
If keys was implemented as an object (with a ``__call__`` method) then
we could also implement sequence methods on it - making it easier to
mutate the keys/values/items directly.
All the best,
Fuzzyman
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
The Eternal Squire wrote:
PyGame is your best bet for pure graphics. Simple shapes can be done
in just a few statements.
the same applies to Tkinter, of course.
from Tkinter import *
# set things up
c = Canvas(); c.pack()
# draw stuff
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There isn't a standard serialize method in Python, so I don't know how
you want to define it.
Well, consider pickle, for example.
I can think of perfectly reasonable definitions
of serialize where obj.serialize() won't always return the same string
on an
Paul Rubin wrote:
Fair enough. How's this:
a = ImmutableObject()
b = deepcopy(a)
assert a == b # a and b start out equal
do stuff
# since a and b are immutable, they should still be equal
# no matter what has happened above
assert a == b
If you've added
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 12:51:34 +, Duncan Booth wrote:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
While outwardly they apear to offer a technique for making software
more reliable there are two shortcomings I'm leery of. First, no
verification program can verify itself;
That's not a
As a general note, I think it would be good to place the exact
description in a footnote, since speaking about hashable objects,
__hash__ and __cmp__ will certainly frighten off newbies and make it
hard to read even for experienced users. The main text may lie/simplyfy
a little bit.
Or as
metiu wrote:
you have a compression utility that works as a standard *nix filter, so
it takes something from stdin and gives it back compressed to stdout
you like to use it as such, because it's nice to call it from the
command line
now someone finds your utility quite nice, and says it
Magnus Lycka wrote:
This won't help if we have problems keeping the whole
structure / call graph in memory at one time.
Ah, I had assumed that the main problem was just that the resulting DOM
was too big. Still, I don't think there would be a problem if you just
constructed a very small tree
it's not obvious how Python could translate '' to anything other
than an empty list, so it sure looks like a server issue.
(or is a problem with running in passive mode? can you test with-
out using passive mode on the same server?)
I thought using ftp.set_pasv(0) sets active mode so I
Delaney, Timothy (Tim) wrote:
It is without a doubt though incumbent on anyone proposing new
*features* to have a solid understanding of what they are proposing,
what it would affect, any backwards incompatibilities, and whether it
fits into the python philosophy (import this).
Sure. However,
Fuzzyman wrote:
That means making keys, values, and items custom objects.
Creating a new instance would have the overhead of creating 4 new
objects instead of just 1. Is the added convenience worth it ? (Plus
the extra layers of method calls for each access).
I'm not sure about that either.
Hi,
which of the following books would you recommend:
Dive into Python or Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional?
I'm an experienced C++-programmer who wants to take a look at Python.
Thanks,
Franz
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Hi,
I use '_' for localization in my program. The problem is when testing
the program using python intractive mode I lose _ function.
One solution is put following in PYTHONSTARTUP file.
--
import readline
def __enforce_underscore__ (): __builtins__._ = str
readline.set_pre_input_hook
I have a non-programming friend who wants to learn Python. It's been
so long since I've been in her shoes that I don't feel qualified to
judge the books aimed at people in her situation. I know of two such
books:
http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld/
http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/
Ben Sizer wrote:
The problem you get, is that the only people who are ever likely to
need to ask questions, are those who don't fully understand Python, by
definition.
really? I'd say that most people that ask questions on comp.lang.python
do understand Python pretty well, and just needs
http://www.python.org/doc/Intros.html
and two great texts when she has covered the basics are:
http://diveintopython.org/
http://www.mindview.net/Books/TIPython
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tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I used py2exe before with more complex programs without any problem.
Now, although my program works fine when I run it from PythonWin, it
won't compile to an executable.
are you sure you're generating a console executable? your program needs
access to the
Simon Brunning wrote:
I have a non-programming friend who wants to learn Python. It's been
so long since I've been in her shoes that I don't feel qualified to
judge the books aimed at people in her situation. I know of two such
books:
http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld/
I've tried, by setting
self.Bind(wx.EVT_CHAR, self.handleKeybEv, self)
in the top level frame, but still this only works if the panel has
focus and not if e.g. a button on the panel has focus while a key is
pressed...
In the meantime I found this:
In some cases, it might be desired by the
I'm using GNU Emacs 21.3.1 with python-mode 1.0alpha under Windows XP.
Whenever I execute a command in an edit window (with
py-execute-region), the output window steals the focus. How can I stop
this happening?
I don't know any lisp, but I hacked together this routine so that that
when I press
I'm using the Python Image Library (PIL) for Python 2.4.
If I have an image and I show it
from PIL import Image
im = Image.new('RGB',100,100)
im.show()
then the output window steals focus. It's very handy to use
an image to show the progress of execution for my program,
but the computer is
I like it! Thanks!
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Franz Mueller wrote:
Hi,
which of the following books would you recommend:
Dive into Python or Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional?
I can't recommand the second since I've never read it. But you can
freely make your own opinion on the first, since it's freely available
online.
On 25 Nov 2005 03:23:33 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.python.org/doc/Intros.html
and two great texts when she has covered the basics are:
http://diveintopython.org/
http://www.mindview.net/Books/TIPython
I wouldn't have thought either of those was suitable
Read my reply here from another thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/25aada3c22ce6e66/cc69fd0c78384e5b?q=luis+cogliati'srnum=1#cc69fd0c78384e5b
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I am participating in the development of a GPL IDE
https://libre2.adacore.com/gps/
It is written in Ada, but provides an extensive extensibility through
Python.
I am not really good at python, but I was trying to implement the
singleton design pattern in C, so that for instance calling the
On 11/25/05, Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
metiu wrote:
you have a compression utility that works as a standard *nix filter, so
it takes something from stdin and gives it back compressed to stdout
you like to use it as such, because it's nice to call it from the
command line
Is there a way to persist a class definition (not a class instance, the actual
class) so it can be restored later? A naive approach using pickle doesn't work:
import pickle
class Foo(object):
... def show(self):
... print I'm a Foo
...
p = pickle.dumps(Foo)
p
Simon Brunning wrote:
I wouldn't have thought either of those was suitable for a
non-programmer. Great for cross-trainers, yes, but neither is intended
as a programming tutorial.
I agree, I just thought that the other replies had provided more than
enough resources to cover the basics, so I
I am trying to learn GUI programming in Python, but have to confess I
am finding it difficult.
I am not an experienced programmer - just someone who from time to
time writes small programs for my use. Over the years I have moved
from GWBASIC to QBASIC to Visual Basic, and now trying to move
Emmanuel Briot wrote:
I am participating in the development of a GPL IDE
https://libre2.adacore.com/gps/
It is written in Ada, but provides an extensive extensibility through
Python.
I am not really good at python, but I was trying to implement the
singleton design pattern in C, so that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us with:
Googling around it seems the best GUI is either Tkinter or PyGtk.
I'd go for wxPython ;-)
Sybren
--
The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a
capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the
safety labels off of
Ed Jensen wrote:
[On proprietary ports of Python...]
Show me the harm done.
We'll have to wait and see what happens. There's a risk that versions
of Python with different semantics or characteristics to the original
could cause the development of parallel communities, instead of
everyone
HI group,
During doing some codeing with python i got the inline error,
def my_word( offset ):
try:
j = ord(t[offset]) + 256*ord(t[offset+1])# + 65536*ord(t
[offset+2]) + 16777216*ord(t[offset+3])
#return j
except IndexError:
# print Exception
return j
Kent Johnson enlightened us with:
Is there a way to persist a class definition (not a class instance,
the actual class) so it can be restored later?
From the docs:
Similarly, classes are pickled by named reference, so the same
restrictions in the unpickling environment apply. Note that none of
Am Fri, 25 Nov 2005 06:02:40 -0800 schrieb peter.mosley:
I am trying to learn GUI programming in Python, but have to confess I
am finding it difficult.
Yes, if you come from Visual Basic you might be missing something.
I developed with Visual Basic some time ago and like some parts of it.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And exactly what is python's spirit/philosophy ? It seems to me that
they are often used in a liberal way, just to support one's argument
that whatever is not in the CURRENT python should not be there.
Yes, those contentious terms pythonic and unpythonic which, as
Hi,
I'm new to Python and I want to create a script that will import
contactitems into an Outlook Public Folder.
Therefore I've installed the Python for Windows Extensions.
This way I can access my personal contacts
code
import win32com.client
OutlookObj =
On 11/25/05, Sybren Stuvel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'd go for wxPython ;-)
I'd go for Dabo, which is a Pythonic wrapper around wxPython. They are
even working on a visual design tool to lay out your UI, much as you
would in Visual Basic.
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Simon Brunning wrote:
I have a non-programming friend who wants to learn Python. It's been
so long since I've been in her shoes that I don't feel qualified to
judge the books aimed at people in her situation.
Python Programming for the absolute beginner
have you tried gtk.MessageDialog ?
http://www.pygtk.org/pygtk2reference/class-gtkmessagedialog.html
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sr_sutar wrote:
HI group,
During doing some codeing with python i got the inline error,
def my_word( offset ):
try:
j = ord(t[offset]) + 256*ord(t[offset+1])# + 65536*ord(t
[offset+2]) + 16777216*ord(t[offset+3])
#return j
except IndexError:
#
I recommend The Quick Python Book by Daryl Harms. What makes it
different from all other introductory books is that it is actually
*readable*. You can just sit down and read it like a novel and enjoy
it.
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Can anyone offer any suggestions as to the least painful way forwards?
http://www.ferg.org/easygui/index.html
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Sybren Stuvel wrote:
Kent Johnson enlightened us with:
Is there a way to persist a class definition (not a class instance,
the actual class) so it can be restored later?
From the docs:
Similarly, classes are pickled by named reference, so the same
restrictions in the unpickling
Hello all.
I was wondering if creating classes could be dynamic. I want to know if I
can make a class Person, then read in a list of names (say people's names)
so then I can have a class instance created for each name in the list?
Why do I want to do this? I was just thinking if I had a
Hello Peter,
I am going to recommend EasyGui which can be found at
http://www.ferg.org/easygui/ because it is (by far) the easiest
possible GUI creation tool using Python.
If (or when) your needs require more complex options than easygui
provides, you might try looking at my GUI toolkits page,
If you come from visual basic, I suggest to use pythoncard GUI, which
is
very simple to develop with a Ressource Editor (create a panel, see
labwindows, visual basic ..).
https://sourceforge.net/projects/vb2py/
a package to transform VB to pythoncard
http://www.linux2000.com/pimp.html
a
Should the priority be to enable python's philosophy or should
it be the priority to limit python to only allow it's philosophy.
One groups seems to think that python's spirit is not broken
by allowing things that seem counter to it, as long as people
can without much trouble, work within
Carl Waldbieser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does anyone know of any good examples for writing client side code to
upload
files over a secure FTP connection?
http://trevp.net/tlslite/
Alan Isaac
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The best, in my opinion is wxPython.
I recommend getting wxGlade and just fiddling around. You should be
able to produce some interesting GUI's fairly easily.
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Kent Johnson enlightened us with:
OK that confirms that pickle won't work. Is there another approach
that will?
Well, since the classes are created at runtime as well, you could
compile them using the appropriate API and call exec() on them.
Sybren
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I found this site that has code for readkey for Windows, Unix, and
in an updated version, Mac:
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/134892 . The
Mac object returns a character whether or not a key was pressed. I
modified the Windows object to do the same when I downloaded it,
Search this group for PythonCard and wxPython for gobs of opinions. For
descriptions of other resources, try:
http://www.fredshack.com/docs/python.html
bs
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This is my attempt :
def cross(seq):
r=[[]]
for x in seq:
r = [ a + b for a in r for b in [[i] for i in x ]]
return r
It is not very efficient though as it would loop through the
intermediate list produced multiple times.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
i think it could
But suppose someone came up with a Python compiler. It
would compile any Python program but there would be no
speed benefit unless you carefully wrote the code to not use
many of Python's dynamic features, so that either by type
inferencing or programmer supplied static declarations, the
Paul Boddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We'll have to wait and see what happens. There's a risk that versions
of Python with different semantics or characteristics to the original
could cause the development of parallel communities, instead of
everyone working on/with the same project. The harm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to learn GUI programming in Python, but have to confess I
am finding it difficult.
I am not an experienced programmer - just someone who from time to
time writes small programs for my use. Over the years I have moved
from GWBASIC to QBASIC to Visual
Ed Jensen a écrit :
Well, despite your protestations, I think the GPL and LGPL are fairly
easy and safe choices for a lot of developers who know enough about
Free Software (ie. haven't just seen the name and thought that's the
thing for me), know what the characteristics of those licences are,
and
Fuzzyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
If you slice an ordered dictionary, I assume you would expect to get an
ordered dictionary back ?
That would be helpful, yes, though there are precedents for types whose
slicing doesn't return an instance of that type (e.g. slices of an mmap
are
Dave Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello all.
I was wondering if creating classes could be dynamic. I want to know if I
can make a class Person, then read in a list of names (say people's names)
so then I can have a class instance created for each name in the list?
Yes, but what you're
Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a way to persist a class definition (not a class instance, the
actual class) so it can be restored later? A naive approach using pickle
doesn't work:
You can use copy_reg to customize pickling behavior. In this case,
you'd need a custom
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Franz Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
which of the following books would you recommend:
Dive into Python or Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional?
I'm an experienced C++-programmer who wants to take a look at Python.
Another option: just use the on-line
On 11/25/05, Franz Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Hi Franz! :)
which of the following books would you recommend:
Dive into Python or Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional?
Both are very good books but I suggest the latter because more recent.
Beginning Python talk python 2.3
Dave Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DR) wrote:
DR Hello all.
DR I was wondering if creating classes could be dynamic. I want to know
DR if I can make a class Person, then read in a list of names (say
DR people's names) so then I can have a class instance created for each
DR name in the list?
If you
Am Fri, 25 Nov 2005 06:02:40 -0800 schrieb peter.mosley:
I am trying to learn GUI programming in Python, but have to confess
I
am finding it difficult.
Yes, if you come from Visual Basic you might be missing something.
I developed with Visual Basic some time ago and like some parts of it.
I suggest you take a look at Qt3, much superior to Tkinter or PyGtk.
With Python, you have to use PyQt bindings.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to learn GUI programming in Python, but have to confess I
am finding it difficult.
I am not an experienced programmer - just someone who from
On 11/25/05, Sebastien Douche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/25/05, Franz Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Hi Franz! :)
which of the following books would you recommend:
Dive into Python or Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional?
Both are very good books but I suggest the
Christoph Zwerschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As a general note, I think it would be good to place the exact
description in a footnote, since speaking about hashable objects,
__hash__ and __cmp__ will certainly frighten off newbies and make it
hard to read even for experienced users. The main
Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Op 2005-11-24, Mike Meyer schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The usual response is That's not the Python way. That's not calling
someone dumb, just pointing out that they don't yet fully understand
the Python way.
That
Emmanuel Briot wrote:
I am participating in the development of a GPL IDE
https://libre2.adacore.com/gps/
I am not really good at python, but I was trying to implement the
singleton design pattern in C, so that for instance calling the constructor
ed = Editor (foo)
Fredrik's advice is
Search this group for PythonCard and wxPython for many posts on this
subject. Also see the following link for descriptions of other
alternatives:
http://www.fredshack.com/docs/python.html
bs
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Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well this is, is one thing I have a problem with.
The python people seem to be more concerned with fighting things
that could be used counter the python philosophy, than search for
things that enable working in the python philosophy.
And what's wrong
I've been watching the flame war about licenses with some interest.
There are many motivations for those who participate in this sector, so
disagreements over licenses reflect those agendas.
I don't have an agenda, at least not right now. I do plan on writing a
few programs.
These will be tools
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to learn GUI programming in Python, but have to confess I
am finding it difficult.
Googling around it seems the best GUI is either Tkinter or PyGtk.
This statement is, and has been subject to much debate. If you ask 10
people on this newsgroup you'll
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There isn't a standard serialize method in Python, so I don't know how
you want to define it.
I can think of perfectly reasonable definitions
of serialize where obj.serialize() won't always return the same string
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Christoph Zwerschke wrote:
Alex Martelli wrote:
However, since Christoph himself just misclassified C++'s std::map as
ordered (it would be sorted in this new terminology he's now
introducing), it seems obvious that the terminological confusion is
rife.
Speaking
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