Re: removing spaces between 2 names

2007-05-14 Thread half . italian
On May 14, 11:00 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > Suppose i have a string stored in variable,how do i remove the > space between them,like if i have the name: > "USDT request" in a variable.i need "USDTrequest",without any space . > Thanks s = "jk hij ght" print "".join(s.

Re: Trying to choose between python and java

2007-05-14 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Anthony Irwin wrote: > #1 Does python have something like javas .jar packages. A jar file > contains all the program files and you can execute the program with > java -jar program.jar There are .egg files but usually distributing a program consisting of several files isn

Re: removing spaces between 2 names

2007-05-14 Thread 7stud
On May 15, 12:14 am, Steven Howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, > > Suppose i have a string stored in variable,how do i remove the > > space between them,like if i have the name: > > "USDT request" in a variable.i need "USDTrequest",without any space . > >

Re: Sorting troubles

2007-05-14 Thread Terry Reedy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Teach said that the optimal threshold in hybrids is 14-16, but guess | he wasn't so right after all =\\ The overhead of using insertion sort | on a longer list turns out to be faster than just piling on | recursions, when confronted wi

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Stefan Behnel
Paul Rubin wrote: > Stefan Behnel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> But then, where's the problem? Just stick to accepting only patches that are >> plain ASCII *for your particular project*. > > There is no feature that has ever been proposed for Python, that cannot > be supported with this argument

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Stefan Behnel
Paul Rubin wrote: > Stefan Behnel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> But then, where's the problem? Just stick to accepting only patches that are >> plain ASCII *for your particular project*. > > There is no feature that has ever been proposed for Python, that cannot > be supported with this argument

Re: removing spaces between 2 names

2007-05-14 Thread Steven Howe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > Suppose i have a string stored in variable,how do i remove the > space between them,like if i have the name: > "USDT request" in a variable.i need "USDTrequest",without any space . > Thanks > > from string import replace st = 'abcd acdfgx

removing spaces between 2 names

2007-05-14 Thread saif . shakeel
Hi, Suppose i have a string stored in variable,how do i remove the space between them,like if i have the name: "USDT request" in a variable.i need "USDTrequest",without any space . Thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Generators in C code

2007-05-14 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Tue, 15 May 2007 02:12:40 -0300, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: >> I feel I'm out of luck, but if someone could point some way to write a >> generator in C, I'be very grateful! > > Perhaps the code in the itertools module will provide a good example > -- they behave like gene

Trying to choose between python and java

2007-05-14 Thread Anthony Irwin
Hi All, I am currently trying to decide between using python or java and have a few quick questions about python that you may be able to help with. #1 Does python have something like javas .jar packages. A jar file contains all the program files and you can execute the program with java -jar p

Re: Interesting list Validity (True/False)

2007-05-14 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Tue, 15 May 2007 01:37:07 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: >> > >> > Sec 2.2.3: >> > Objects of different types, *--->except<---* different numeric types >> > and different string types, never compare equal; >> > >> >> The exceptions you mean are not exceptions to "'X=

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Paul Rubin schrieb: >> Plenty of programming languages already support unicode identifiers, > > Could you name a few? Thanks. The GNU assembler also supports non-ASCII symbol names on object file formats that support it; this includes at least ELF (not sure about PE32). Higher-level programming

How to calculate definite integral with python

2007-05-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm trying to do some integral calculation. I have searched the web, but haven't found any useful information. Will somebody point me to the right resources on the web for this job ? Thanks a lot. ps. Can numpy be used for this job?* * -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

ClientForm .click() oddity

2007-05-14 Thread Gordon Airporte
I've written a script using ClientForm to automate opening and closing ports on my Linksys router. It works, but I wonder if there isn't a better way to do it. The problem is that the list of arguments in the request generated by .click()ing the form is incomplete and I have to edit it manually.

Re: Python Power Point Slides

2007-05-14 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 15 May 2007 02:48:47 +0200, Irmen de Jong wrote: > Krypto wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I want to give a short presentation in my group about benefits of >> python, why should one use python and some basic starting information >> about python, about its data type, etc. >> >> Can somebody point me

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread ZeD
Neil Hodgson wrote: > Ada 2005 allows Unicode identifiers and even includes the constant > '?' in Ada.Numerics. this. is. cool. (oh, and +1 for the pep) -- Under construction -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Generators in C code

2007-05-14 Thread Raymond Hettinger
On May 14, 9:55 pm, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I feel I'm out of luck, but if someone could point some way to write a > generator in C, I'be very grateful! Perhaps the code in the itertools module will provide a good example -- they behave like generators in many respects e

Generators in C code

2007-05-14 Thread Gabriel Genellina
Hi I'd like to write a generator in C, callable from Python. The only way to create a generator object I can see, is using PyGen_New(frame) - and a frame object implies Python code, right? holding global state and local variables and stack and a lot of stuff, so perhaps there is no (easy) wa

Re: Sorting troubles

2007-05-14 Thread seyensubs
On May 15, 5:35 am, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 14 May 2007 09:49:56 -0700, Thomas Nelson wrote: > > The thing is that [x for x in List[1:]...] is a brand new list created > > by iterating over the old one. > > How about: > > qSortHelp(List): > > newlist = qSort(List) >

Re: Interesting list Validity (True/False)

2007-05-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On May 14, 8:10?pm, Carsten Haese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 11:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On May 13, 8:24 am, Steven D'Aprano > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, 12 May 2007 21:50:12 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > "if arg==True"

Re: Class name as argument

2007-05-14 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Mon, 14 May 2007 19:34:52 -0300, HMS Surprise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Snippet 1 below doesn't do much but works (more code is inserted by a > generator). In the next to last line the class name is also used as > argument. I have seen this construct before and have had error > messages

Re: multi-line input?

2007-05-14 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Mon, 14 May 2007 18:50:35 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > I'm writing a C++ application with an embedded Python interpreter. > Command text is captured and passed to the interpreter a single line > at a time. My question is this: is there a simple way of determining > whether a given inp

Re: How to do basic CRUD apps with Python

2007-05-14 Thread James T. Dennis
Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > walterbyrd a ?crit : >> With PHP, libraries, apps, etc. to do basic CRUD are everywhere. Ajax >> and non-Ajax solutions abound. >> With Python, finding such library, or apps. seems to be much more >> difficult to find. >> I thought django might be

Re: Sorting troubles

2007-05-14 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 14 May 2007 09:49:56 -0700, Thomas Nelson wrote: > The thing is that [x for x in List[1:]...] is a brand new list created > by iterating over the old one. > How about: > qSortHelp(List): > newlist = qSort(List) > for i, val in enumerate(newlist): > List[i] = val > You have

Subprocess with and without shell

2007-05-14 Thread George Sakkis
I'm trying to figure out why Popen captures the stderr of a specific command when it runs through the shell but not without it. IOW: cmd = [my_exe, arg1, arg2, ..., argN] if 1: # this captures both stdout and stderr as expected pipe = Popen(' '.join(cmd), shell=True, stderr=PIPE, stdout=PIPE)

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Paul Rubin
Stefan Behnel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But then, where's the problem? Just stick to accepting only patches that are > plain ASCII *for your particular project*. There is no feature that has ever been proposed for Python, that cannot be supported with this argument. If you don't like having

Re: Interesting list Validity (True/False)

2007-05-14 Thread Carsten Haese
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 11:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On May 13, 8:24 am, Steven D'Aprano > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, 12 May 2007 21:50:12 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > > > >> > "if arg==True" tests whether the object known as arg is equal to the > > >> > object kno

Re: Hello gettext

2007-05-14 Thread James T. Dennis
James T. Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... just to follow-up my own posting --- as gauche as that is: > You'd think that using things like gettext would be easy. Superficially > it seems well documented in the Library Reference(*). However, it can > be surprisingly difficult to get the ext

Re: customary way of keeping your own Python and module directory in $HOME

2007-05-14 Thread jmg3000
On May 14, 6:00 pm, James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [snip], but on *nix, > you can compile python with the "--prefix=" option set to a directory in > your home dir and install there. Check. > I recommend having your own python install if you want a comprehensi

Re: Python Power Point Slides

2007-05-14 Thread Irmen de Jong
Krypto wrote: > Hi, > > I want to give a short presentation in my group about benefits of > python, why should one use python and some basic starting information > about python, about its data type, etc. > > Can somebody point me to the right references on the web. I have > searched a lot and I d

Re: tkinter button state = DISABLED

2007-05-14 Thread James Stroud
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have created a button widget with a button click binding. The button > initially has a state=disabled. I can see the greyed out version of > the button in the GUI. But If I click on the button it still invokes > the callback/binding function. > > Any suggestions as to

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Neil Hodgson
Martin v. Löwis: > Specification-wise, C99 and C++98 also support Unicode identifiers, > although many compilers still don't. Ada 2005 allows Unicode identifiers and even includes the constant 'π' in Ada.Numerics. Neil -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Neil Hodgson schrieb: > Paul Rubin wrote: >>> Plenty of programming languages already support unicode identifiers, >> >> Could you name a few? Thanks. > >C#, Java, Ecmascript, Visual Basic. Specification-wise, C99 and C++98 also support Unicode identifiers, although many compilers still don

Python Power Point Slides

2007-05-14 Thread Krypto
Hi, I want to give a short presentation in my group about benefits of python, why should one use python and some basic starting information about python, about its data type, etc. Can somebody point me to the right references on the web. I have searched a lot and I do get quite a few but I though

Class name as argument

2007-05-14 Thread HMS Surprise
Snippet 1 below doesn't do much but works (more code is inserted by a generator). In the next to last line the class name is also used as argument. I have seen this construct before and have had error messages tell me that the name is expected. Why is this so? In snippet 2 that I concocted is not r

Re: deployment scripts

2007-05-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On May 14, 9:32 am, Erin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone have experience developing deployment scripts with Jython? csound blue is open source and uses jython, .. I don't have the url on me though http://www.stormpages.com/edexter/csound.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Not providing an explicit listing of allowed characters is inexcusable > sloppiness. That is a deliberate part of the specification. It is intentional that it does *not* specify a precise list, but instead defers that list to the version of the Unicode standard used (in the unicodedata module).

Hello gettext

2007-05-14 Thread James T. Dennis
You'd think that using things like gettext would be easy. Superficially it seems well documented in the Library Reference(*). However, it can be surprisingly difficult to get the external details right. * http://docs.python.org/lib/node738.html Here's what I finally came up with a

Re: Time

2007-05-14 Thread HMS Surprise
> > Do you mean 12 Noon or 12 Midnight? 12AM and 12PM don't exist, > do they? > >>> t = (2007, 5, 14, 12, 0,0,0,0,0) >>> strftime('%p', t) 'PM' >>> t = (2007, 5, 14, 0,0,0,0,0,0) >>> strftime('%p', t) 'AM' >>> -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nick Craig-Wood > wrote: > >> My initial reaction is that it would be cool to use all those great >> symbols. A variable called OHM etc! > > This is a nice candidate for homoglyph confusion. There's the Greek > letter omega (U+03A9) Ω and the SI unit symbol (U+2126) Ω,

Re: file uploader

2007-05-14 Thread James T. Dennis
Gabriel Genellina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > En Sun, 13 May 2007 18:41:16 -0300, Sick Monkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > escribi?: >> If anyone has a simpler way of checking to see if >> a file already exists (prior to uploading to a server) and renaming it, >> please let me know. > I will ignore t

Re: customary way of keeping your own Python and module directory in $HOME

2007-05-14 Thread James Stroud
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What's the customary way to keep your own local Python and package > directory? For example, when you're on a server where you don't have > root access, and everything must go in your home directory. > > * What directories do you create? > * What environment variables do

multi-line input?

2007-05-14 Thread joshusdog
I'm writing a C++ application with an embedded Python interpreter. Command text is captured and passed to the interpreter a single line at a time. My question is this: is there a simple way of determining whether a given input line of text will cause the prompt to change from the regular ">>>" to t

RE: os.listdir() doesn't work ??

2007-05-14 Thread Looney, James B
The case sensitivity has to do with the OS you're on. So, using glob from Un*x is case sensitive, but from Windows it isn't. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stef Mientki Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 3:39 PM To: [email protected] Subje

Re: os.listdir() doesn't work ??

2007-05-14 Thread Stef Mientki
Michel Claveau wrote: > Hi! > > >> You want the glob module > > Warning: glob has "unix like behavior"; just a little different with > windows's DIR Don't know the details of "Unix" but I thought "unix" was case-sensitive, and glob.glob doesn't seem to be, at least not on windows systems ;-)

swig %typemap generated list typeerror

2007-05-14 Thread txtoth
I'm trying to map a security_context_t ** to a python list. After calling the method that returns this type when I process the returned list in a for loop I get: TypeError: expected string or Unicode object, NoneType found after processing the last list entry. Can anyone see what I'm doing wrong? D

Re: os.listdir() doesn't work ??

2007-05-14 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Mon, 14 May 2007 18:24:23 -0300, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: >>>files = os.listdir('D:\\akto_yk\\yk_controle\\*.txt') >>> >>> I get an error message >>> >>>WindowsError: [Errno 123] The filename, directory name, or volume >>> label syntax is incorrect: >>>'D:\

Re: tkinter button state = DISABLED

2007-05-14 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Mon, 14 May 2007 17:46:32 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > On May 14, 12:01 pm, Peter Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > b=Button(frame, text = "Button", state = 'disabled') >> > b.bind("", >> > lambda >> > ev

Re: os.listdir() doesn't work ??

2007-05-14 Thread Michel Claveau
Hi! > You want the glob module Warning: glob has "unix like behavior"; just a little different with windows's DIR -- @-salutations Michel Claveau -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: os.listdir() doesn't work ??

2007-05-14 Thread Stef Mientki
timw.google wrote: > On May 14, 4:09 pm, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> hello, >> >> I want to find all files with the extension "*.txt". >> From the examples in "Learning Python, Lutz and Asher" and >> from the website I see examples where you also may specify a wildcard >> filegro

Re: os.listdir() doesn't work ??

2007-05-14 Thread Steven Howe
Stef Mientki wrote: hello, I want to find all files with the extension "*.txt". From the examples in "Learning Python, Lutz and Asher" and from the website I see examples where you also may specify a wildcard filegroup. But when I try this files = os.listdir('D:\\akto_yk\\yk_controle\\*.txt

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Michel Claveau
Hi! ;-))) In whitespace-programming-language, only three characters are used : Space - Tab - RC No parasitic characters in listings ; economy of ink ; ecological behavior ; LOL programming... Must, Python, follow this way? -- @-salutations Michel Claveau -- http://mail.python.org/m

Re: track cpu usage of linux application

2007-05-14 Thread James T. Dennis
Fabian Braennstroem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, >I would like to track the cpu usage of a couple of >programs using python. Maybe it works somehow with >piping 'top' to python read the cpu load for a greped >application and clocking the the first and last >appearence. Is t

Re: Creating a function to make checkbutton with information from a list?

2007-05-14 Thread Thomas Jansson
On 13 Maj, 08:45, Peter Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas Jansson wrote: > > Dear all > > > I am writing a program with tkinter where I have to create a lot of > > checkbuttons. They should have the same format but should have > > different names. My intention is to run the functions and th

Re: Time

2007-05-14 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Mon, 14 May 2007 16:20:27 -0300, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: On May 14, 9:22 am, HMS Surprise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oops +=1, should be: hrMn[0] = int(hrMn[0] if t[2] == 'PM': hrMn[0] += 12 Need more starter fluid, coffee ple

Re: Path python versions and Macosx

2007-05-14 Thread half . italian
On May 14, 4:46 am, andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12 Mag, 01:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > On May 11, 1:36 pm, andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > I use python on macosx with textmate as editor (great program). > > > > I also use macport to install unix pr

Re: tkinter button state = DISABLED

2007-05-14 Thread rahulnag22
On May 14, 12:01 pm, Peter Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have created a button widget with a button click binding. The button > > initially has a state=disabled. I can see the greyed out version of > > the button in the GUI. But If I click on the button it still

customary way of keeping your own Python and module directory in $HOME

2007-05-14 Thread jmg3000
What's the customary way to keep your own local Python and package directory? For example, when you're on a server where you don't have root access, and everything must go in your home directory. * What directories do you create? * What environment variables do you set? * What config files do you

Re: Bug? import cp1252

2007-05-14 Thread M�ta-MCI
Hi! >>> I suspect that's there's some invisible character in the file No ; because I reproduce the problem, on another CPU, with typing from scratch. >>> I can't reproduce this -- Python 2.5.1, Windows XP Pro SP2 I'm sorry. Perhaps my "french" windows is a co-factor? Perhaps my locale has Or

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Jakub Stolarski
On May 14, 9:49 pm, Méta-MCI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > - should non-ASCII identifiers be supported? why? > - would you use them if it was possible to do so? in what cases? > > Yes. > > JScript can use letters with accents in identifiers > XML (1.1) can use letters with accents in tags

Re: Simulating simple electric circuits

2007-05-14 Thread Bjoern Schliessmann
Arnaud Delobelle wrote: > I'm interested! I was tempted to have a go at it after your > initial post, it sounded like a nice little project :) Here you go, see below (quite long). It works from Python 2.5 and above and should be straightly executable from command line. (It'll work with lower Pyt

Re: os.listdir() doesn't work ??

2007-05-14 Thread timw.google
On May 14, 4:09 pm, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello, > > I want to find all files with the extension "*.txt". > From the examples in "Learning Python, Lutz and Asher" and > from the website I see examples where you also may specify a wildcard > filegroup. > > But when I try this >

os.listdir() doesn't work ??

2007-05-14 Thread Stef Mientki
hello, I want to find all files with the extension "*.txt". From the examples in "Learning Python, Lutz and Asher" and from the website I see examples where you also may specify a wildcard filegroup. But when I try this files = os.listdir('D:\\akto_yk\\yk_controle\\*.txt') I get an error mes

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Méta-MCI
Hi! - should non-ASCII identifiers be supported? why? - would you use them if it was possible to do so? in what cases? Yes. JScript can use letters with accents in identifiers XML (1.1) can use letters with accents in tags C# can use letters with accents in variables SQL: MySQL/MS-Sql/Oralcle/

Re: Sorting troubles

2007-05-14 Thread Anton Vredegoor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I see. I figured that list comprehensions made another list(duh), but > I thought I could relink the object(List) to the new list and keep it > once the function ended. > > Is it possible to pass a reference(to an object.. Like 'List', > basically) to a function and chan

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-05-14, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007-05-14, Michael Yanowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Let me guess - the next step will be to restrict the identifiers >> to be at most 6 characters long. > > Of course. If they're any longer than that then you can't fit > an entir

Re: Time

2007-05-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-05-14, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007-05-14, Gabriel Genellina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> En Mon, 14 May 2007 11:27:35 -0300, HMS Surprise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> escribió: >> >>> On May 14, 9:22 am, HMS Surprise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Oops +=1, should be

Re: Time

2007-05-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-05-14, Gabriel Genellina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > En Mon, 14 May 2007 11:27:35 -0300, HMS Surprise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > escribió: > >> On May 14, 9:22 am, HMS Surprise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Oops +=1, should be: >> hrMn[0] = int(hrMn[0] >> if t[2] == 'PM': >> hrMn[0]

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-05-14, Michael Yanowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let me guess - the next step will be to restrict the identifiers > to be at most 6 characters long. Of course. If they're any longer than that then you can't fit an entire identifier into a 26-bit CDC 6600 machine register so you can do

Re: track cpu usage of linux application

2007-05-14 Thread Zed A. Shaw
On Mon, 14 May 2007 20:56:20 + Fabian Braennstroem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to track the cpu usage of a couple of > programs using python. Maybe it works somehow with > piping 'top' to python read the cpu load for a greped > application and clocking th

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-05-14, Stefan Behnel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch schrieb: >> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michel Claveau >> wrote: >> >>> And Il1 O0 ? >> >> Hm, we should ban digits from identifier names. :-) > > Ah, good idea - and capital letters also. After all, they are > rare

Re: Recursion limit problems

2007-05-14 Thread elventear
On May 14, 2:03 pm, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dicts and sets use the key's hash value to determine the "bucket" where > the key will be placed, and == to distingish between different objects > with the same hash value. > That is, you should define __hash__ and one of (_

Re: Recursion limit problems

2007-05-14 Thread elventear
On May 14, 1:20 pm, "Terry Reedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dicts first compare hashes and if they are equal, then check equality. If > two unequal strings have the same hash value, as is possible of course > (given only 2**32 possible hashes and many more possible strings), both can > still

Re: Recursion limit problems

2007-05-14 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Mon, 14 May 2007 12:35:16 -0300, elventear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Since I am defining a hash for my object, it makes sense that I should > be able to define equality. But I am not sure about inequality, in my > specific case. The paragraph above mentions that __cmp__ should be > defi

RE: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Michael Yanowitz
Let me guess - the next step will be to restrict the identifiers to be at most 6 characters long. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stefan Behnel Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Stefan Behnel
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch schrieb: > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michel Claveau > wrote: > >> And Il1 O0 ? > > Hm, we should ban digits from identifier names. :-) Ah, good idea - and capital letters also. After all, they are rare enough in English to just plain ignore their existance. Stefan :) --

track cpu usage of linux application

2007-05-14 Thread Fabian Braennstroem
Hi, I would like to track the cpu usage of a couple of programs using python. Maybe it works somehow with piping 'top' to python read the cpu load for a greped application and clocking the the first and last appearence. Is that a good approach or does anyone have a more ele

Re: Interesting list Validity (True/False)

2007-05-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On May 13, 8:24 am, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 12 May 2007 21:50:12 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intended to reply to this yesterday, but circumstances (see timeit results) prevented it. > >> > Actually, it's this statement that's non-sensical. > > >> > > >> > "if

Re: Time

2007-05-14 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Mon, 14 May 2007 11:27:35 -0300, HMS Surprise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > On May 14, 9:22 am, HMS Surprise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oops +=1, should be: > hrMn[0] = int(hrMn[0] > if t[2] == 'PM': > hrMn[0] += 12 > > Need more starter fluid, coffee please!!! Still won't work

Re: Sorting troubles

2007-05-14 Thread Terry Reedy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |I have the following implementations of quicksort and insertion sort: | | def qSort(List): |if List == []: return [] |return qSort([x for x in List[1:] if x< List[0]]) + List[0:1] + \ | qSort([x for x in List[1:] if x>

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michel Claveau wrote: > And Il1 O0 ? Hm, we should ban digits from identifier names. :-) Ciao, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Recursion limit problems

2007-05-14 Thread Terry Reedy
"elventear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 12, 12:25 am, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > En Fri, 11 May 2007 19:17:57 -0300, elventear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > escribió: > "The only required property is that objects which compare equal have the >

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Michel Claveau
And Il1 O0 ? -- @-salutations Michel Claveau -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

=// Homeland Security on High Alert!!

2007-05-14 Thread ready . or . special3
http://freewindowsvista.blogspot.com/ - With a class action lawsuit looming, three politicians question the head of the Department of Homeland Security about the lost hard drive. The laptop was never found... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: tkinter button state = DISABLED

2007-05-14 Thread Peter Otten
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have created a button widget with a button click binding. The button > initially has a state=disabled. I can see the greyed out version of > the button in the GUI. But If I click on the button it still invokes > the callback/binding function. > > Any suggestions as to

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Terry Reedy
"Stefan Behnel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sounds like CPython would better follow IronPython here. One could also turn the argument around and say that there is no need to follow IronPython; people who want non-ASCII identifiers can just juse IronPython.

Re: Jessica Simpson Sports new "Boob Job"!!!@

2007-05-14 Thread wb
On May 14, 2:09 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If her boobs getting any bigger she won't be able to stand up. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Sorting troubles

2007-05-14 Thread seyensubs
I see. I figured that list comprehensions made another list(duh), but I thought I could relink the object(List) to the new list and keep it once the function ended. Is it possible to pass a reference(to an object.. Like 'List', basically) to a function and change the reference to point to somethin

tkinter button state = DISABLED

2007-05-14 Thread rahulnag22
I have created a button widget with a button click binding. The button initially has a state=disabled. I can see the greyed out version of the button in the GUI. But If I click on the button it still invokes the callback/binding function. Any suggestions as to why the callback is being invoked eve

Re: GUI tutorial

2007-05-14 Thread John K Masters
On 15:03 Mon 14 May , Jarek Zgoda wrote: > John K Masters napisał(a): > > > Can someone point me in the direction of a good tutorial on programming > > python with a GUI? I'm just starting out with python and have written a > > few scripts successfully but would like to add a graphical front e

Re: deployment scripts

2007-05-14 Thread kyosohma
On May 14, 9:32 am, Erin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone have experience developing deployment scripts with Jython? What do you mean by "deployment scripts"? What do you want to deploy? Jython? A different program from Jython? Or do you mean packaging a Jython program you wrote? We need

Re: Sorting troubles

2007-05-14 Thread Nick Vatamaniuc
On May 14, 12:05 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have the following implementations of quicksort and insertion sort: > > def qSort(List): > if List == []: return [] > return qSort([x for x in List[1:] if x< List[0]]) + List[0:1] + \ >qSort([x for x in List[1:] if x>=List[0]]) >

PEP 3131: Ascii-English is like coca-cola!

2007-05-14 Thread Pierre Hanser
This pep is not technical, or at least not only. It has larger implications about society model we want. Let me explain with an analogy: let's compare 'ascii english' to coca-cola. It's available nearly everywhere. It does not taste good at first try, and is especially repulsive to young childre

Re: Sorting troubles

2007-05-14 Thread Thomas Nelson
On May 14, 11:05 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have the following implementations of quicksort and insertion sort: > > def qSort(List): > if List == []: return [] > return qSort([x for x in List[1:] if x< List[0]]) + List[0:1] + \ >qSort([x for x in List[1:] if x>=List[0]]) >

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Jakub Stolarski
On May 13, 5:44 pm, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - should non-ASCII identifiers be supported? why? No. It's good convention to stick with english. And if we stick with english, why we should need non-ASCII characters? Any non-ASCII character makes code less readable. We never know

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Stefan Behnel
Jarek Zgoda schrieb: > Stefan Behnel napisał(a): > >>> While I can read the code with Hebrew, Russian or Greek names >>> transliterated to ASCII, I would not be able to read such code in native. >> Then maybe it was code that was not meant to be read by you? > > OK, then. As a code obfuscation me

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread Anton Vredegoor
Neil Hodgson wrote: > Anton Vredegoor: > >> Ouch! Now I seem to be disagreeing with the one who writes my editor. >> What will become of me now? > > It should be OK. I try to keep my anger under control and not cut > off the pixel supply at the first stirrings of dissent. Thanks! I guess I

Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-14 Thread rurpy
On May 14, 9:53 am, Michel Claveau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - should non-ASCII identifiers be supported? why? > > - would you use them if it was possible to do so? in what cases? > > Yes. > And, more: yes yes yes > > Because: > > 1) when I connect Python to j(ava)Script, if the pages "connect

Re: Asyncore Help?

2007-05-14 Thread Bjoern Schliessmann
Nick Craig-Wood wrote: > http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ > > The learning curve of twisted is rather brutal, NACK, the tutorial is -- IMHO -- rather easy if you are used to writing Python code and doing asynchronous programming.

Re: which is more pythonic/faster append or +=[]

2007-05-14 Thread 7stud
On May 10, 2:39 pm, Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 7studwrote: > >> Is there any documentation for the syntax you used with timeit? > > > This is the syntax the docs describe: > [snip > > python timeit.py [-n N] [-r N] [-s S] [-t] [-c] [-h] [statement ...] > [snip] > > Then in the exam

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