Open Source Developers' Conference 2007 - Brisbane - Call for Papers

2007-06-16 Thread Richard Jones
Call for Papers Open Source Developers' Conference 2007 - Brisbane Australia Success in Development Business OSDC is an Australian grass-roots conference providing Open Source developers with an opportunity to meet, share, learn, and of course show-off. OSDC focuses on Open Source developers

Re: IndentationError: unexpected indent

2007-06-16 Thread Wim Vogelaar
Note: for your indentation problem, try to use an editor allowing to display tab and spaces and then identify the problem location, or replace all tabs by 4 spaces and configure the editor to only use spaces. It would be very helpful when Python would warn you when there are tabs in your

Re: IndentationError: unexpected indent

2007-06-16 Thread Wim Vogelaar
How is he supposed to run MS notepad on X11? :) I am saying MS notepad, but any software (running on Linux) showing you clearly the tabs will help. It would also be very convenient when python would deal with tabs in a human friendly way. Wim Vogelaar, http://home.wanadoo.nl/w.h.vogelaar/

Re: Should: for k,v in **dictionary_instance work?

2007-06-16 Thread irstas
On Jun 16, 5:27 am, Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently, *t and **d are syntax errors outside of function calls and definitions. (Any other places?) But if they were allowed, what would they mean? Actually since you asked, I had to try this out x = range(10) a, *b = x I would

Output of html parsing

2007-06-16 Thread Jackie Wang
Hi, all, I want to get the information of the professors (name,title) from the following link: http://www.economics.utoronto.ca/index.php/index/person/faculty/; Ideally, I'd like to have a output file where each line is one Prof, including his name and title. In practice, I use

Re: a_list.count(a_callable) ?

2007-06-16 Thread Ping
On 6 16 , 2 06 , BJörn Lindqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you could extend count() analogous to how sort() works: # L is a list of Person objects, each Person has a name attribute L.sort(key = attrgetter(name)) # How many olle are there? print L.count(olle, key = attrgetter(name))

Re: Looking for a wxPython GUI builder

2007-06-16 Thread Uwe Grauer
Jens Thiede wrote: On Jun 16, 3:18 am, Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about SPE? Any others? And which ones do people actually use? Commercial or Freeware. Thanks, Dick Moores There's Boa Constructor... (http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net/ Screenshots). I haven't

Re: Subprocess Not Working on Solaris

2007-06-16 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Jun 13 2007, 13:40:52) [GCC 3.2.3] on sunos5 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. import subprocess Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/subprocess.py, line 401, in module

retrieve / find out an image's dimensions

2007-06-16 Thread Adam Teale
hey guys Is there a builtin/standard install method in python for retrieving or finding out an image's dimensions? A quick google found me this: http://www.pythonware.com/library/pil/handbook/introduction.htm but it looks like it is something I will need to install - I'd like to be able to pass

Installing manpage in setup.py

2007-06-16 Thread Papalagi Pakeha
Hi all, how can I tell setup() in distutils' setup.py to install manual pages of my program? I.e. prgclient.1 to /.../man/man1 and prgdaemon.8 to /.../man/man8? The problem is that those /.../ directories may be different on every system, for instance /usr/share/man on OpenSUSE and /usr/man on

Re: Installing manpage in setup.py

2007-06-16 Thread Thomas Jollans
Papalagi Pakeha wrote: Hi all, how can I tell setup() in distutils' setup.py to install manual pages of my program? I.e. prgclient.1 to /.../man/man1 and prgdaemon.8 to /.../man/man8? The problem is that those /.../ directories may be different on every system, for instance /usr/share/man

Re: Python's only one way to do it philosophy isn't good?

2007-06-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:25:38 -0700, Alex Martelli wrote: The Spirit of C section in the preface of the ISO Standard for C phrases this principle as Provide only one way to do an operation. Taken seriously, that rapidly goes to absurdity -- it would mean, for example, replacing all for loops

Database Access using pyodbc. I've a problem

2007-06-16 Thread Rajendran
Hi all, I've installed pyodbc module to access my database (MS Access). I've setup a User level DSN to the database.mdb file. When I run my python code in the command prompt it is retrieving the database contents and displaying it (HTML output). But when I run that python from webserver

Re: Do U have anything to share with this students

2007-06-16 Thread Milt
On Jun 15, 1:00?pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a network of students. Find the people of your kind there http://tinyurl.com/33uvla Click and register to access millions of students. Your link doesn't work. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python's only one way to do it philosophy isn't good?

2007-06-16 Thread Alex Martelli
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... perception that, at their roots, Scheme, C and Python share one philosophical underpinning (one that's extremely rare among programming languages as a whole) -- an appreciation of SIMPLICITY AND UNIFORMITY as language characteristics. Out

Inserting breakpoints ...

2007-06-16 Thread Stef Mientki
hello, for the simulation of some micro language (JAL), the original language is (with a minimal effort) translated into Python, after which the code is run in Python. I want to add a call to a debug routine, called JSM(linenr), which performs task like wait, update user feedback, etc. Now I

Re: Do U have anything to share with this students

2007-06-16 Thread Josh Hill
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:06:23 -, Milt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 15, 1:00?pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a network of students. Find the people of your kind there http://tinyurl.com/33uvla Click and register to access millions of students. Your link doesn't work. Hope you're

Re: Priority Queue with Mutable Elements

2007-06-16 Thread Chris Lasher
On Jun 15, 5:52 pm, Josiah Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See this implementation of a pair heap: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2006-November/069845.html ...which offers the ability to update the 'priority' of an entry in the heap. It requires that the 'value' in (priority,

Re: Python's only one way to do it philosophy isn't good?

2007-06-16 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2007-06-16, Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:25:38 -0700, Alex Martelli wrote: The Spirit of C section in the preface of the ISO Standard for C phrases this principle as Provide only one way to do an operation. Taken seriously, that rapidly goes to absurdity

Re: Python's only one way to do it philosophy isn't good?

2007-06-16 Thread Cousin Stanley
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... perception that, at their roots, Scheme, C and Python share one philosophical underpinning (one that's extremely rare among programming languages as a whole) -- an appreciation of SIMPLICITY AND UNIFORMITY as language characteristics.

Re: Database Access using pyodbc. I've a problem

2007-06-16 Thread fumanchu
On Jun 16, 5:35 am, Rajendran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've installed pyodbc module to access my database (MS Access). I've setup a User level DSN to the database.mdb file. When I run my python code in the command prompt it is retrieving the database contents and displaying it (HTML

Re: Looking for a wxPython GUI builder

2007-06-16 Thread hg
Dick Moores wrote: How about SPE? Any others? And which ones do people actually use? Commercial or Freeware. Thanks, Dick Moores I use wxDesigner: http://www.roebling.de/ hg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

How do I write to a CD?

2007-06-16 Thread k47867
Hello: I am looking for Python code to open, read, write, close, and make bootable the following: CD DVD USB Drive Can I just use open(), read(), write(), and close() for these? And how do I make something bootable? Is there a portable way to do this that works for both windows

Re: Want to learn Python

2007-06-16 Thread Aahz
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], 7stud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am of the opposite opinion: I recommend that people get any book but Beginning Python: Novice to Professional. In my opinion, that book is horribly written, the examples are terrible, some subjects are only covered in passing so the

Re: retrieve / find out an image's dimensions

2007-06-16 Thread jigloo
http://www.pycode.com/modules/?id=32 On 6 16 , 6 27 , Adam Teale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey guys Is there a builtin/standard install method in python for retrieving or finding out an image's dimensions? A quick google found me

Re: Want to learn Python

2007-06-16 Thread Aahz
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alex Martelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 7stud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reference book Python in a Nutshell is excellent, however its index is so bad I hesitate to recommend it. A reference book should have a thorough index--you shouldn't have to hunt through

Re: PIL cutting off letters

2007-06-16 Thread Pierre Hanser
Matt Haggard a écrit : I'm using PIL (Python Imaging Library) to generate button images. They consist of a left end image, a middle, repeating image and a right side image anyway, that's not important I'm using a TTF font for the text of the button (Verdana.TTF) and it keeps cutting the

Re: Want to learn Python

2007-06-16 Thread 7stud
I'm curious, have you tried _Python for Dummies_? No, I haven't. Unfortunately, I don't ever consider Dummies books. That type of marketing appeals to certain people and not others. I'm one of the others. I'll definitely take a look at it the next time I'm in the bookstore. We didn't wait

Re: retrieve / find out an image's dimensions

2007-06-16 Thread jigloo
On 6 16 , 6 27 , Adam Teale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey guys Is there a builtin/standard install method in python for retrieving or finding out an image's dimensions? Sorry, after i review these code in http://www.pycode.com/modules/?id=32, i found some(not just a few) *BUGS* in it. I must

Re: Python's only one way to do it philosophy isn't good?

2007-06-16 Thread Paul Rubin
Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I vote for C++ as being astoundingly complex. But it provides complex features, e.g.,the machanisms it provides to deal with multiple inheritance, or generic, type-safe code. It gets off-topic but I'm not sure what advantage templates are supposed to have

Re: The Concepts and Confusions of Prefix, Infix, Postfix and Fully Functional Notations

2007-06-16 Thread Peter J. Holzer
[Followup-To: header set to comp.lang.perl.misc.] On 2007-06-12 08:15, Thomas F. Burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 11, 11:36 pm, Tim Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 11, 8:02 am, Twisted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 11, 2:42 am, Joachim Durchholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Priority Queue with Mutable Elements

2007-06-16 Thread Scott David Daniels
Chris Lasher wrote: On Jun 15, 5:52 pm, Josiah Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See this implementation of a pair heap: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2006-November/069845.html ...which offers the ability to update the 'priority' of an entry in the heap. It requires that the

Re: How do I write to a CD?

2007-06-16 Thread Evan Klitzke
On 6/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I just use open(), read(), write(), and close() for these? And how do I make something bootable? I don't know enough about your query to answer all of your questions, but to make any device bootable, including a CD, you need to put a

Re: a_list.count(a_callable) ?

2007-06-16 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
Ping wrote: On 6 16 , 2 06 , BJörn Lindqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you could extend count() analogous to how sort() works: Wow! This jumps out of my screen! I like it very much. How to get the extension into the language? Well, you subclass list and extend/override

Re: Python's only one way to do it philosophy isn't good?

2007-06-16 Thread Douglas Alan
Dennis Lee Bieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Macros? Unfortunately to my world, macros are those things found in C, high-powered assemblers, and pre-VBA Office. As such, they do anything but keep a language small, and one encounters multiple implementations of similar functionality --

Re: Python's only one way to do it philosophy isn't good?

2007-06-16 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2007-06-16, Paul Rubin http wrote: Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I vote for C++ as being astoundingly complex. But it provides complex features, e.g.,the machanisms it provides to deal with multiple inheritance, or generic, type-safe code. It gets off-topic but I'm not sure what

Is there a way to hook into module destruction?

2007-06-16 Thread Neal Becker
Code at global scope in a module is run at module construction (init). Is it possible to hook into module destruction (unloading)? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: a_list.count(a_callable) ?

2007-06-16 Thread Dustan
On Jun 16, 12:04 pm, Wildemar Wildenburger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: class SmartCountingList(list): def count(self, item, func=lambda x: x): return len([item for item in self if func(item) is True]) A less bug-prone and (I would think) speedier example, although still untested:

Re: Should: for k,v in **dictionary_instance work?

2007-06-16 Thread Eduardo \EdCrypt\ O. Padoan
Actually since you asked, I had to try this out x = range(10) a, *b = x PEP 3132: Extended Iterable Unpacking http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3132/ -- EduardoOPadoan (eopadoan-altavix::com) Bookmarks: http://del.icio.us/edcrypt -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How do I write to a CD?

2007-06-16 Thread Michael Torrie
On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 11:50 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: I am looking for Python code to open, read, write, close, and make bootable the following: CD DVD USB Drive There will be no cross-platform way to do this. Certainly no python libraries. The closest thing you

Writing books (was Re: Want to learn Python)

2007-06-16 Thread Aahz
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], 7stud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's nice to hear about an author who cares enough about the end product that bears their name to insist on quality. I'm so tired of hearing authors whine that the publisher screwed up the book. In all fairness, my co-author and

Re: Want to learn Python

2007-06-16 Thread Alex Martelli
7stud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious, have you tried _Python for Dummies_? No, I haven't. Unfortunately, I don't ever consider Dummies books. That type of marketing appeals to certain people and not others. I'm one of the others. I'll definitely take a look at it the next time

Re: Python's only one way to do it philosophy isn't good?

2007-06-16 Thread Alex Martelli
Cousin Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I think the Original Sin in that regard was PL/I: it tried to have all ... tended to have two or more ways to perform any given task, typically inspired by some of the existing languages, often with the addition of new ones made out of

Re: a_list.count(a_callable) ?

2007-06-16 Thread Dustan
On Jun 16, 3:37 pm, Dustan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: class SmartCountingList(list): def count(self, item, func=lambda x: x): return sum(1 for i in self if func(item)==item) Then, you would call it as follows: a_list.count(True, a_function) I need to learn to think things through

Re: a_list.count(a_callable) ?

2007-06-16 Thread Evan Klitzke
On 6/16/07, Dustan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 16, 3:37 pm, Dustan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: class SmartCountingList(list): def count(self, item, func=lambda x: x): return sum(1 for i in self if func(item)==item) Then, you would call it as follows: a_list.count(True,

Re: a_list.count(a_callable) ?

2007-06-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 20:37:01 +, Dustan wrote: On Jun 16, 12:04 pm, Wildemar Wildenburger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: class SmartCountingList(list): def count(self, item, func=lambda x: x): return len([item for item in self if func(item) is True]) A less bug-prone and (I would

Re: IndentationError: unexpected indent

2007-06-16 Thread Dave Borne
It would be very helpful when Python would warn you when there are tabs in your source. invoke python with the -t option for warnings about tabs or -tt for errors. -Dave -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Function that returns a tuple

2007-06-16 Thread Marcpp
Hi, I need to returns a tuple from a function (reads a database) Any idea?. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python's only one way to do it philosophy isn't good?

2007-06-16 Thread Paul Rubin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) writes: PL/1 is basically gone, but its legacy of take what you need and leave the rest is unfortunately alive in other languages that are blind to the enormous advantages of simplicity and uniformity. Intercal? --

Re: Looking for a wxPython GUI builder

2007-06-16 Thread Steve Holden
hg wrote: Dick Moores wrote: How about SPE? Any others? And which ones do people actually use? Commercial or Freeware. Thanks, Dick Moores I use wxDesigner: http://www.roebling.de/ hg I've used both BoaConstructor and wxDesigner - this latter product I am still using

Re: Function that returns a tuple

2007-06-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 18:30:26 -0700, Marcpp wrote: Hi, I need to returns a tuple from a function (reads a database) Any idea?. I don't understand the question. Just return the tuple the same as you would return an int or a float or a str or any other data type. def return_a_tuple(): return

Re: Function that returns a tuple

2007-06-16 Thread Carsten Haese
On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 18:30 -0700, Marcpp wrote: Hi, I need to returns a tuple from a function (reads a database) Any idea?. def f(): return (1,2) Somehow I have the feeling that there's more to your question than you're letting on... -- Carsten Haese http://informixdb.sourceforge.net --

Re: Function that returns a tuple

2007-06-16 Thread Dan Hipschman
On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 06:30:26PM -0700, Marcpp wrote: Hi, I need to returns a tuple from a function (reads a database) Any idea?. Like this? def foo(): return 1, 2, 3, 4 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How do I write to a CD?

2007-06-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-06-16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for Python code to open, read, write, close, and make bootable the following: CD DVD USB Drive Can I just use open(), read(), write(), and close() for these? CD,DVD: No. You're going to have to use os.popen/os.system to

What's with orange ??

2007-06-16 Thread walterbyrd
The maker of the skeletonz python based CMS, amonge other things: http://orangoo.com/skeletonz/ One of the few hosts that really provides good support for django: http://asmallorange.com/ The python component-based data mining software: http://www.ailab.si/orange --

Newbie question: how to get started?

2007-06-16 Thread ed
Hi, I'm interested in starting to learn python. I'm looking for any reccomendations or advice that I can use to get started. Looking forward to any help you can give! Thanks! -e -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Newbie question: how to get started?

2007-06-16 Thread ed
I should also mention that I know C/C++, Perl, Javascript, the basics of mySQL, and HTML/CSS. If anyone has tried to enter python from these angles, I'd be grateful to hear from you. On 2007-06-16 22:48:32 -0400, ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, I'm interested in starting to learn python.

Re: Want to learn Python

2007-06-16 Thread Paul Rubin
Dennis Lee Bieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Aahz's book is really good, in my opinion. So are many others in the for Dummies series that I've had occasion to try (including the one with the delightfully unintended pun in its title, Bridge for Dummies: despite the title it applies to

Re: Python's only one way to do it philosophy isn't good?

2007-06-16 Thread Paul Rubin
Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know that much about ML. I know is does a really nice job of generic containers, as does C++. But can it 'foo' any type as easily as C++? template class T T foo(T); I don't know enough C++ to understand what the above means exactly, but I think

Re: Inserting breakpoints ...

2007-06-16 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:22:34 -0300, Stef Mientki [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: for the simulation of some micro language (JAL), the original language is (with a minimal effort) translated into Python, after which the code is run in Python. I want to add a call to a debug routine, called

Re: Newbie question: how to get started?

2007-06-16 Thread walterbyrd
On Jun 16, 8:48 pm, ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm interested in starting to learn python. I'm looking for any reccomendations or advice that I can use to get started. Looking forward to any help you can give! Thanks! -e Here are two very well regarded online books - both free:

Re: Newbie question: how to get started?

2007-06-16 Thread google
On Jun 17, 12:48 pm, ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm interested in starting to learn python. I'm looking for any reccomendations or advice that I can use to get started. Looking forward to any help you can give! Thanks! -e There are some great tutorials online. Try this one if

Re: Newbie question: how to get started?

2007-06-16 Thread Basilisk96
On Jun 16, 11:10 pm, walterbyrd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are two very well regarded online books - both free: http://www.diveintopython.org/ http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/ I second that advice, especially the latter text. It's an excellent resource for any beginner in Python,

Re: Is there a way to hook into module destruction?

2007-06-16 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:16:10 -0300, Neal Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Code at global scope in a module is run at module construction (init). Is it possible to hook into module destruction (unloading)? No exactly, but you could try the atexit module. -- Gabriel Genellina --

Re: Want to learn Python

2007-06-16 Thread Aahz
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis Lee Bieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The first edition Wicca for Dummies had a few laughs too... Biggest one is that someone inserted a photo of the Venus de Milo where the text called for the Venus of

[ python-Bugs-1738250 ] Universal MacPython 2.5.1 installation fails

2007-06-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1738250, was opened at 2007-06-16 01:03 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=105470aid=1738250group_id=5470 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of

[ python-Bugs-1738441 ] shutil.move doesn't work when only case changes

2007-06-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1738441, was opened at 2007-06-16 15:25 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=105470aid=1738441group_id=5470 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of

[ python-Bugs-1738441 ] shutil.move doesn't work when only case changes

2007-06-16 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1738441, was opened at 2007-06-16 23:55 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by orsenthil You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=105470aid=1738441group_id=5470 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment