Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread Michael Torrie
On 11/22/2011 09:14 AM, W. eWatson wrote: > On 11/21/2011 7:00 PM, alex23 wrote: >> "W. eWatson" wrote: >>> Comments? >> >> Please don't start multiple threads on the same issue. > Your joking, right, or do you just prefer 500 line threads wandering all > over the place? Most of us use threaded

Re: Capturing SIGSTOP

2011-11-23 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:22:23 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: >> Is there a way to catch SIGSTOP? > > In the strictest sense, no; SIGSTOP can't be caught. However, some > systems have SIGTSTP which is sent when you hit Ctrl-Z, which would b

Does py2app improves speed?

2011-11-23 Thread Ricardo Mansilla
Hi everyone.. My question is exactly as in the subject of This Mail. I have made a Python script which is to slow and i have heard (and common sense also suggest) that if you use some libraries to "frozen" the script the performance improves substantially. So I need to know; is This a myth or i

Re: python shell that saves history of typed in commands that will persist between reboots

2011-11-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > One of us is confused, and I'm pretty sure it's you :) > > Tim went on to say "Obviously this only applies when an underlying cmd > session persists", which I understood as implying that he too is using > Linux where Ctrl-Z stops the proces

Re: Bind key press to call function

2011-11-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> This looks like the classic "sigint handler sets a flag that the main >> loop polls" structure. > > Exactly. I am open to alternative methods if they are lightweight. Might be easiest to spin off a thread to do the work, and then have the

Re: python shell that saves history of typed in commands that will persist between reboots

2011-11-23 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:30:57 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: >> On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 10:37:56 +, Tim Golden wrote: >> >>> The interpreter inherits the command shell's history function: Open a >>> cmd window and then a Python session. Do

Re: Bind key press to call function

2011-11-23 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:20:09 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: >> I'm looking for a way to interrupt a long-running function on a key >> press, but without halting the function. > > I assume there's a reason for not using Ctrl-C and SIGINT w

RE: Thread problem

2011-11-23 Thread Nikunj.Badjatya
Can someone help me on this please? From: python-list-bounces+nikunj.badjatya=emc@python.org [mailto:python-list-bounces+nikunj.badjatya=emc@python.org] On Behalf Of nikunj.badja...@emc.com Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:15 AM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Thread problem H

Re: python shell that saves history of typed in commands that will persist between reboots

2011-11-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 10:37:56 +, Tim Golden wrote: > >> The interpreter inherits the command shell's history function: Open a >> cmd window and then a Python session. Do some stuff. >> >> Ctrl-Z to exit to the surrounding cmd window. Do

Re: Capturing SIGSTOP

2011-11-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Is there a way to catch SIGSTOP? In the strictest sense, no; SIGSTOP can't be caught. However, some systems have SIGTSTP which is sent when you hit Ctrl-Z, which would be what you're looking for. http://www.gnu.org/s/hello/manual/libc/Job

Re: Bind key press to call function

2011-11-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I'm looking for a way to interrupt a long-running function on a key > press, but without halting the function. I assume there's a reason for not using Ctrl-C and SIGINT with the signal module? This looks like the classic "sigint handler s

Tree data structure with: single, double and triple children option along with AVM data at each node

2011-11-23 Thread nirman longjam
Dear sir, I am very happy to find this group. Sir, i am new to Python. Currently i am working on text processing. Can you give me some suggestions about Tree data structure representation, where i require each node capable to handle: only one child, or up to 3 children plus hold feature informat

Re: String splitting by spaces question

2011-11-23 Thread DevPlayer
This is an 'example string' Don't for get to watch for things like: Don't, Can't, Won't, I'll, He'll, Hor'davors, Mc'Kinly -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Bind key press to call function

2011-11-23 Thread Steven D'Aprano
I'm looking for a way to interrupt a long-running function on a key press, but without halting the function. E.g. if I have these two functions: def handler(*args): print "caught interrupt and continuing..." def exercise_cpu(): for i in range(8): print "working..." for

Capturing SIGSTOP

2011-11-23 Thread Steven D'Aprano
I'd like to perform a task when the user interrupts my application with Ctrl-Z on Linux. I tried installing a signal handler: import signal def handler(signalnum, stackframe): print "Received signal %d" % signalnum signal.signal(signal.SIGSTOP, handler) But I got a RuntimeError: Tracebac

Re: Is there any way to unimport a library

2011-11-23 Thread DevPlayer
btw if you like processing text outside of python (say using grep or something) python -c "help('modules')" > all_imports.log which you might note on windows get's processed to: python -c "help('modules')" 1> all_imports.log on windows from within a batch file -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/

Re: Is there any way to unimport a library

2011-11-23 Thread DevPlayer
Seems so far the common way to fully unload any import is to exit the Python session. Only if this is true do I offer this hackish idea: Therefore you might wish to run an os script instead of a python script right off. Here is my hack at it... Something like this: file myapp.bat -- p

Re: python shell that saves history of typed in commands that will persist between reboots

2011-11-23 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 10:37:56 +, Tim Golden wrote: > The interpreter inherits the command shell's history function: Open a > cmd window and then a Python session. Do some stuff. > > Ctrl-Z to exit to the surrounding cmd window. Do some random cmd stuff: > dir, cd, etc. > > Start a second Pyth

Re: String splitting by spaces question

2011-11-23 Thread Phil Rist
In article <3f19e4c0-e010-4cb2-9f71-dd09e0d3c...@r9g2000vbw.googlegroups.com>, Massi says... > >Hi everyone, > >I have to parse a string and splitting it by spaces. The problem is >that the string can include substrings comprises by quotations which >must mantain the spaces. What I need is to pass

Running Idle on Windows 7

2011-11-23 Thread Phil Rist
I have installed ActiveState Python 32bit on my computer. There are potentially five different ways that Idle can be run. Actually six if you include activating a command window and typing in the command. We will not do that here. The first way is to use the shortcut put into the start menu by

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread Matt Joiner
Moving to C++ is _always_ a step backwards. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Alan Meyer wrote: > On 11/23/2011 12:38 PM, W. eWatson wrote: >> >> So unless Alan Meyer has further interest in this, it looks like it's at >> an end. >> >> It may be time to move on to c++. >> > > C++ is a ton of fun.

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread Alan Meyer
On 11/23/2011 12:38 PM, W. eWatson wrote: So unless Alan Meyer has further interest in this, it looks like it's at an end. It may be time to move on to c++. C++ is a ton of fun. You haven't lived until you've made a syntax error in a template instantiation and seen a hundred cascading error

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread Ben Finney
Arnaud Delobelle writes: > On 23 November 2011 17:38, W. eWatson wrote: > [...] > > It may be time to move on to c++. > > Good Luck. Bye! Sadly, IME it's most often the case that the person who threatens to leave with just about every message will instead stick around a long time, repeating th

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread Sibylle Koczian
Am 23.11.2011 04:45, schrieb Alan Meyer: On 11/22/2011 3:05 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 14:29:18 -0500, Alan Meyer declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: On 11/22/2011 1:55 PM, Alan Meyer wrote: ... 6. Select, or navigate to and select, the python IDLE inte

Re: String splitting by spaces question

2011-11-23 Thread Miki Tebeka
http://docs.python.org/library/shlex.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 2.7.2 on XP

2011-11-23 Thread John Gordon
In "Alemu Tadesse" writes: > I am saving it with .py extention It would really help us answer your question if you identified which editor you're using. IDLE? PyScripter? Eclipse? PyCharm? -- John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs gor...@panix.com

RE: Python 2.7.2 on XP

2011-11-23 Thread Alemu Tadesse
I am saving it with .py extention -Original Message- From: python-list-bounces+atadesse=sunedison@python.org [mailto:python-list-bounces+atadesse=sunedison@python.org] On Behalf Of MRAB Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:01 PM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Python 2.7.

Re: Python 2.7.2 on XP

2011-11-23 Thread MRAB
On 23/11/2011 15:40, Alemu Tadesse wrote: I am new to python. I do not know why my python editor (for 2.7.2) changes everything to just black and white after saving. If you're using IDLE, are you saving the file without the .py extension? That could be the problem. No color for say the built

Re: String splitting by spaces question

2011-11-23 Thread Jerry Hill
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Massi wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have to parse a string and splitting it by spaces. The problem is > that the string can include substrings comprises by quotations which > must mantain the spaces. What I need is to pass from a string like: > > This is an 'exampl

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread Arnaud Delobelle
On 23 November 2011 17:38, W. eWatson wrote: [...] > It may be time to move on to c++. Good Luck. Bye! -- Arnaud -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Template class and class design on concrete example xl2csv writer

2011-11-23 Thread Karim
Hello All, I have the following code and I am quite satisfied with its design BUT I have the feeling I can do better. Basically the, main() execute the program (I did not put the parsing of arguments function). I am opening an Excel document and writing content in a CSV one w/ different format.

Re: String splitting by spaces question

2011-11-23 Thread Nick Dokos
Alemu Tadesse wrote: > Can we use rsplit function on an array or vector of strings ? it works > for one not for vector > ... > > I have to parse a string and splitting it by spaces. The problem is > that the string can include substrings comprises by quotations which > must mantain the spaces.

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread W. eWatson
So unless Alan Meyer has further interest in this, it looks like it's at an end. It may be time to move on to c++. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: String splitting by spaces question

2011-11-23 Thread Arnaud Delobelle
On 23 November 2011 17:10, Massi wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have to parse a string and splitting it by spaces. The problem is > that the string can include substrings comprises by quotations which > must mantain the spaces. What I need is to pass from a string like: > > This is an 'example string

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 withregard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/23/2011 8:08 AM, John Gordon wrote: In "Alemu Tadesse" writes: scientific package is not working and complaining about not able to find/load DLL ... frustrating for the first day in the python world. ANY tip ? Post the exact error message you're getting. Also post your code, if it's

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/22/2011 10:43 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:46:01 -0800, "W. eWatson" declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: Of course, Dennis' C:\Python26\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin\Pythonwin.exe wouldn't work either. If you didn't install an ActiveStat

RE: String splitting by spaces question

2011-11-23 Thread Alemu Tadesse
Hi Everyone, Can we use rsplit function on an array or vector of strings ? it works for one not for vector Alemu -Original Message- From: python-list-bounces+atadesse=sunedison@python.org [mailto:python-list-bounces+atadesse=sunedison@python.org] On Behalf Of Massi Sent: Wednes

String splitting by spaces question

2011-11-23 Thread Massi
Hi everyone, I have to parse a string and splitting it by spaces. The problem is that the string can include substrings comprises by quotations which must mantain the spaces. What I need is to pass from a string like: This is an 'example string' to the following vector: ["This", "is", "an", "ex

Re: Python 2.7.2 on XP

2011-11-23 Thread John Gordon
In "Alemu Tadesse" writes: > I am new to python. I do not know why my python editor (for 2.7.2) > changes everything to just black and white after saving. No color for What editor are you using? There are quite a lot of them. -- John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 withregard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread John Gordon
In "Alemu Tadesse" writes: > scientific package is not working and complaining about not able to > find/load DLL ... frustrating for the first day in the python world. ANY > tip ? Post the exact error message you're getting. Also post your code, if it's not too long. -- John Gordon

Python 2.7.2 on XP

2011-11-23 Thread Alemu Tadesse
Dear All, I am new to python. I do not know why my python editor (for 2.7.2) changes everything to just black and white after saving. No color for say the built in functions for loops defs they all look the same - it is annoying for someone coming from another editors that help you track/eas

Re: What replaces log4py under Python 3.2?

2011-11-23 Thread Alec Taylor
zing! On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:18 AM, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: > Rob Richardson wrote: > >> Our customers are used to the rotating log file capability of the log4py >> package.  I did not see anything in that link that talks about rotating >> log files (changing file name when the da

RE: What replaces log4py under Python 3.2?

2011-11-23 Thread Peter Otten
Rob Richardson wrote: > Our customers are used to the rotating log file capability of the log4py > package. I did not see anything in that link that talks about rotating > log files (changing file name when the date changes, and saving a limited > number of old log files). Is that possible using

RE: What replaces log4py under Python 3.2?

2011-11-23 Thread Rob Richardson
Thank you for that link. Our customers are used to the rotating log file capability of the log4py package. I did not see anything in that link that talks about rotating log files (changing file name when the date changes, and saving a limited number of old log files). Is that possible using t

Re: Writing code to be optimizable

2011-11-23 Thread Roy Smith
In article <63e78437-c76b-4a9e-9a62-bfea8d078...@v5g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, snorble wrote: > Is it reasonable to prototype an application in Python that will > require performance? Yes. Several observations: 1) The classic 80/20 rule. 80% of the time is spent running 20% of the code. S

Re: Peculiarity of '@' in logging.Formatter

2011-11-23 Thread Vinay Sajip
On Nov 21, 11:17 pm, Charlie Martin wrote: > This is what seems like an odd bug, but in code I'd > thing often-enough used it must be the expected behavior > and I just don't understand.  Please, sirs/mesdames, is > this a bug? It may be a bug, but if so, it's in the syslog daemon rather than log

Re: Choosing a Windows C compiler for use with Cython and 32-bit Python 2.7

2011-11-23 Thread Christian Heimes
Am 23.11.2011 13:11, schrieb pyt...@bdurham.com: > Looking for some tips on getting started with Cython development > under Windows. I am using Python 2.7.2. > > After reading the Cython documentation [1] it appears that one > has a choice of using either the MinGW or MS Visual C compiler. > > 1.

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread Anssi Saari
Dennis Lee Bieber writes: >> c:\Python32 Start in, and for Target: Python 3.2.2 (64-bit) > > Which tells me that the TARGET field is garbaged, since THAT is what > specifies the program (and arguments) that has to be run when the > shortcut is double-clicked. Actually, no, it's what I have

Choosing a Windows C compiler for use with Cython and 32-bit Python 2.7

2011-11-23 Thread python
Looking for some tips on getting started with Cython development under Windows. I am using Python 2.7.2. After reading the Cython documentation [1] it appears that one has a choice of using either the MinGW or MS Visual C compiler. 1. Are there any issues associated with using the MinGW compiler

Re: python shell that saves history of typed in commands that will persist between reboots

2011-11-23 Thread Tim Golden
On 23/11/2011 10:29, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:23:19 +0200, Anssi Saari wrote: goldtech writes: Using Windows. Is there a python shell that has a history of typed in commands? Is there a shell that doesn't have history then? At least both the vanilla shell and Idle both

Re: python shell that saves history of typed in commands that will persist between reboots

2011-11-23 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:23:19 +0200, Anssi Saari wrote: > goldtech writes: > >> Using Windows. Is there a python shell that has a history of typed in >> commands? > > Is there a shell that doesn't have history then? At least both the > vanilla shell and Idle both have basic history in Windows. I

import _tclinter error in python 2.7.1 Itanium build

2011-11-23 Thread Wong Wah Meng-R32813
Hello there, I am in the midst of converting my application code from python 1.5.2 to python 2.7.1. In the build of my python 2.7.1 on Itanium 64-bit HP11.3 platform, I noticed my Tkinter module was built and linked successfully, that I am able to import the module and use it. However, I just

Re: python shell that saves history of typed in commands that will persist between reboots

2011-11-23 Thread Anssi Saari
goldtech writes: > Using Windows. Is there a python shell that has a history of typed in > commands? Is there a shell that doesn't have history then? At least both the vanilla shell and Idle both have basic history in Windows. IPython for more fun. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyt

Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

2011-11-23 Thread Anssi Saari
"W. eWatson" writes: > One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of > 2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described. That is, if you > right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor? I don't have 2.7.2, but my Windows (7, 32 bit) machine has 3.2