2 without a doubt.
On Dec 3, 2011 5:40 PM, "Andrew Berg" wrote:
> On 12/3/2011 12:23 AM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> > PyPy has a roadmap for 3.2
> > http://pypy.org/py3donate.html
> > They definitely plan to do it one way or another.
> I never said there were no plans, but at $2567 out of $60k, I don't
As long as we can dump python 2, a big congrats to anyone who makes this
possible. Thanks martin
On Dec 3, 2011 5:51 PM, "Stefan Behnel" wrote:
> Ron, 02.12.2011 22:47:
>
>> It looks like Vinay Sajip has succeeded in porting Django to Python3
>> (in a shared code base for Python 3.2 and Python 2.
Ron, 02.12.2011 22:47:
It looks like Vinay Sajip has succeeded in porting Django to Python3
(in a shared code base for Python 3.2 and Python 2.7). This is an
astoundingly good job, done very fast and is big news.
See https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/django-developers/XjrX3FIPT-U
and the ac
I accidentally quoted the wrong figure. I meant $4369 of $105000.
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On 12/3/2011 12:23 AM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> PyPy has a roadmap for 3.2
> http://pypy.org/py3donate.html
> They definitely plan to do it one way or another.
I never said there were no plans, but at $2567 out of $60k, I don't see
it happening soon. Unless someone decides to donate a huge sum of money
On 12/2/2011 11:20 PM, Andrew Berg wrote:
thing to note is that, at least AFAICT, Jython, IronPython and PyPy are
not going to support Python 3 any time soon,
PyPy has a roadmap for 3.2
http://pypy.org/py3donate.html
They definitely plan to do it one way or another.
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On 12/2/11, Antti J Ylikoski wrote:
>
> I'm in the process of learning Python. I already can code
> objet-oriented programs with the language. I have in my hands the
> O'Reilly book by Mark Lutz, Programming Python, in two versions: the
> 2nd Edition, which covers Python 2, and the 4th edition,
In article ,
Antti J Ylikoski wrote:
> I have in my hands the O'Reilly book by Mark Lutz, Programming
> Python, in two versions: the 2nd Edition, which covers Python 2, and
> the 4th edition, which covers Python 3.
The engineer in me really has to wonder what the 3rd edition might have
cover
On 12/2/2011 9:54 PM, Antti J Ylikoski wrote:
> What is the opinion of the wizards here, shall I learm Python 2 or
> Python 3? I'm posting this here because I feel that this point is
> interesting to other students of Python.
Unless you are tied to Python 2 in some way, go for Python 3 and don't
l
If you are writing your own scripts, I would recommend Py3 for learning. But if
you are studying existing scripts to learn, Py2 might be better.
I have been doing Python for about 2 years and started learning Py3 with no
regrets. Py2 is not going to be "obsolete" for quite a while. It is almost
To explain my reasoning, this scheme will allow me to run the script three
ways, as shell, as one-shot CGI or as a persistent mod_wsgi module.
So to be more exhaustive:
In __init__ I can say:
import Grid
self.Grid = Grid.Grid
self.Grid is now the instance of Grid inside the module Grid.
then
I'm in the process of learning Python. I already can code
objet-oriented programs with the language. I have in my hands the
O'Reilly book by Mark Lutz, Programming Python, in two versions: the
2nd Edition, which covers Python 2, and the 4th edition, which covers
Python 3.
In the "official Pyth
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 09:49:25 -0800, Gnarlodious wrote:
> What I am doing is importing modules that have an identical instance
> name. So I say:
>
> import Grid
>
> Grid has its instance:
>
> Grid.Grid()
>
> and this is the same for all modules of my webapp. allowedPages is a
> list of modules
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:18:12 -0800, 8 Dihedral wrote:
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Dihedral, EVERY SINGLE ONE of your messages is double posted. You are
sending to the newsgroup and the mailing list, but they are aliases for
each other. Please stop double posting.
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It looks like Vinay Sajip has succeeded in porting Django to Python3
(in a shared code base for Python 3.2 and Python 2.7). This is an
astoundingly good job, done very fast and is big news.
See https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/django-developers/XjrX3FIPT-U
and the actual code is at Bitbucket
On 12/2/2011 4:53 AM, Hrvoje Niksic wrote:
Chris Angelico writes:
The hash can grow with (k,v) pairs accumulated in the run time.
An auto memory management mechanism is required for a hash of a non-fixed size
of (k,v) pairs.
That's a hash table
In many contexts "hash table" is shortened t
Gnarlodious writes:
> What I am doing is importing modules that have an identical instance
> name.
Best to fix that, then.
> import Grid
That's a poorly-named module. PEP 8 recommends module names be all
lowercase.
> Grid has its instance:
>
> Grid.Grid()
And this is the reason: PEP 8 recomm
> In my opinion, if your code is indented four or more levels, you should
> start to think about refactorising your code; if you reach six levels,
> your code is probably a mess.
Here's some code I encountered while grading assignments from
first-year CS students:
if 'not' in temp_holder:
Steven, that's probably the most elegant explanation of the "pythonic"
way I've ever seen. I'm saving it for the next time upper management
want to use Java again.
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On Nov 30, 4:03 pm, Andrew Berg wrote:
> I've done some research, but I'm not sure what's most appropriate for my
> situation. What I want to do is have a long running process that spawns
> processes (that aren't necessarily written in Python) and communicates
> with them. The children can be spaw
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:28 AM, 8 Dihedral
wrote:
> On Monday, November 28, 2011 7:45:57 PM UTC+8, Andrea Crotti wrote:
>> I'm happily using the ast module to analyze some code,
>> but my scripts need also to run unfortunately on python 2.5
>>
>> The _ast was there already, but the ast helper
On 12/01/2011 08:55 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
Gelonida N wrote:
On 11/30/2011 01:32 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
I like to hash a list of words (actually, the command line args of my
program) in such a way that different words will create different hash, but
not sensitive
to the order of the words. An
Is it possible to automate the Python installation on Windows using
the MSI file so it does not add a Start Menu folder? I would like to
push out Python to all of my office workstations, but I'd like for it
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On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, 8 Dihedral
wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2011 8:32:39 PM UTC+8, Neal Becker wrote:
>> I like to hash a list of words (actually, the command line args of my
>> program)
>> in such a way that different words will create different hash, but not
>> sensitiv
On Monday, November 28, 2011 7:45:57 PM UTC+8, Andrea Crotti wrote:
> I'm happily using the ast module to analyze some code,
> but my scripts need also to run unfortunately on python 2.5
>
> The _ast was there already, but the ast helpers not yet.
> Is it ok if I just copy over the source from the
On Wednesday, November 30, 2011 8:32:39 PM UTC+8, Neal Becker wrote:
> I like to hash a list of words (actually, the command line args of my
> program)
> in such a way that different words will create different hash, but not
> sensitive
> to the order of the words. Any ideas?
For each word of
What I am doing is importing modules that have an identical instance
name. So I say:
import Grid
Grid has its instance:
Grid.Grid()
and this is the same for all modules of my webapp.
allowedPages is a list of modules to import, so they are quoted
strings:
for page in self.allowedPages:
seta
I'd just look a the unit tests for clarification/examples
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On Friday, December 2, 2011 5:53:47 PM UTC+8, Hrvoje Niksic wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>
> >> The hash can grow with (k,v) pairs accumulated in the run time.
> >> An auto memory management mechanism is required for a hash of a non-fixed
> >> size of (k,v) pairs.
> >
> > That's a hash table
And on a related topic, how can I actually detect other types of
imports, for example
__import__
Doing a dump I get this:
In [113]: ast.dump(ast.parse('__import__("module")'))
Out[113]: "Module(body=[Expr(value=Call(func=Name(id='__import__',
ctx=Load()), args=[Str(s='module')], keywords=[], s
On 12/02/2011 03:18 PM, DevPlayer wrote:
There was another topic in these forums recently about "un-importing"
modules (and how you can not do that reliably without restarting
python). There was various ways mentioned of keeping track of what was
imported. And there was mentioned reasonable ways
On Dec 1, 10:21 am, Hrvoje Niksic wrote:
> Chris Rebert writes:
> > C does not have a built-in fixed-point datatype, so the `struct`
> > module doesn't handle fixed-point numbers directly.
>
> The built-in decimal module supports fixed-point arithmetic, but the
> struct module doesn't know about
Please check Erlang that spawn so easily. And there are Python packages can do
the same task.
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On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 2:57 AM, 8 Dihedral
wrote:
> Multiple thread supporting programming languages in true OOP as Erlang and
> Python do not talk about POSIX signals.
The OP talked about multiprocessing. Each thread of execution is a
separate context, and can receive signals.
ChrisA
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On Friday, December 2, 2011 11:13:34 PM UTC+8, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 2:05 AM, Mihai Badoiu wrote:
> > In the multiprocessing module, on a Process p, by just doing p.daemon=1
> > before p.start(), we can make the child die when the parent exits. However,
> > the child does
I've been in philosophical discussions all day.
This topic title makes me cringe
:P
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On Dec 2, 2:04 pm, Hans Mulder wrote:
> That's odd. For some reason, I can get away with a simple
>
> sys.stdin = open('/dev/tty')
>
> and raw_input will merrily read from file descriptor 3.
>
> I'm using Pyhton 2.7.1 and 3.2 on MacOS/X 10.5.0.
>
> What version are you using?
>
> -- HansM
Anybody knows?
Have a nice weekend!
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On Nov 30, 1:03 pm, Andrea Crotti wrote:
> Another thing about the AST, I am having fun trying to for example list
> out all
> the unused imports.
>
> I have already a visitor which works quite nicely I think, but now I
> would like
> to get a way to find all the unused imports, so I need more vis
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 2:05 AM, Mihai Badoiu wrote:
> In the multiprocessing module, on a Process p, by just doing p.daemon=1
> before p.start(), we can make the child die when the parent exits. However,
> the child does not die if the parent gets killed.
> How can I make sure the child die when
In the multiprocessing module, on a Process p, by just doing p.daemon=1
before p.start(), we can make the child die when the parent exits.
However, the child does not die if the parent gets killed.
How can I make sure the child die when the parent gets killed?
thanks,
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This is not tested, but maybe it'll work :)
def complete(self, text, state):
if text.startswith('config):
return self.config.complete(text, state)
return Cmd.complete(self, text, state)
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On 2/12/11 10:09:17, janedenone wrote:
I had tried
sys.stdin = open('/dev/tty', 'r')
That seems to work for me. This code:
import sys
if sys.version_info.major == 2:
input = raw_input
for tp in enumerate(sys.stdin):
print("%d: %s" % tp)
sys.stdin = open('/dev/tty', 'r')
answer = i
On Friday, December 2, 2011 5:53:47 PM UTC+8, Hrvoje Niksic wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>
> >> The hash can grow with (k,v) pairs accumulated in the run time.
> >> An auto memory management mechanism is required for a hash of a non-fixed
> >> size of (k,v) pairs.
> >
> > That's a hash table
durumdara, 02.12.2011 09:13:
So: may I don't understand the things well, but I thought that parser
drop the "nondata" CRLF-s + other characters (not preserve them).
Well, it does that, at least on my side (which is not under Windows):
===
original='''
AnyText
On 2011-11-29, Stefan Behnel wrote:
> Adam Funk, 29.11.2011 13:57:
>> On 2011-11-28, Stefan Behnel wrote:
>>> If the name "big_json" is supposed to hint at a large set of data, you may
>>> want to use something other than minidom. Take a look at the
>>> xml.etree.cElementTree module instead, whic
Dear Stefan!
So: may I don't understand the things well, but I thought that parser
drop the "nondata" CRLF-s + other characters (not preserve them).
Then don't matters that I read the XML from a file, or I create it
from code, because all of them generating SAME RESULT.
But Python don't do that.
Chris Angelico writes:
>> The hash can grow with (k,v) pairs accumulated in the run time.
>> An auto memory management mechanism is required for a hash of a non-fixed
>> size of (k,v) pairs.
>
> That's a hash table
In many contexts "hash table" is shortened to "hash" when there is no
ambiguity.
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> Dude, it was deliberately obfuscated code. I even named the function
> "obfuscated_prefixes". I thought that would have been a hint
>
> It's kinda scary that of all the sins against readability committed in my
> function, including isinstan
On Dec 2, 8:53 am, Hans Mulder wrote:
> On 2/12/11 03:46:10, Dan Stromberg wrote:
>
> > You can read piped data from sys.stdin normally. Then if you want
> > something from the user, at least on most *ix's, you would open
> > /dev/tty and get user input from there. 'Not sure about OS/X.
>
> Read
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:02:01 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 13:07:57 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> I would consider integer representations of ASCII to be code smell.
>>> It's not instantly obvious that 45 means '-
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