On 2012-01-24 02:52, Peter Otten wrote:
Have update() (renamed to read_more() in my code) do the reading:
import sys
import tkinter
import tkinter.scrolledtext
root = tkinter.Tk()
text_window = tkinter.Toplevel()
text = tkinter.scrolledtext.ScrolledText(text_window)
text.pack()
infile =
On 1/25/2012 9:14 PM Steven D'Aprano said...
In the
same way that a native English speaker would never make the mistake of
using organ to refer to an unnamed mechanical device, so she would
never use gadget to refer to an unnamed body part.
My wife introduced me to the term picnic gadget as
Hi
I just minstalled python 3.1 on my windons XP SP3
but on the start up I get the following error message:
Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: can't initialize sys standard streams
ImportError: No module named encodings.utf_8
This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:06:57 -0800, Emile van Sebille wrote:
On 1/25/2012 9:14 PM Steven D'Aprano said...
In the
same way that a native English speaker would never make the mistake of
using organ to refer to an unnamed mechanical device, so she would
never use gadget to refer to an unnamed
On Jan 27, 6:38 am, Nathan Rice nathan.alexander.r...@gmail.com
wrote:
May I suggest a look at languages such as ATS and Epigram? They use
types that constrain values specifically to prove things about your
program. Haskell is a step, but as far as proving goes, it's less
powerful than it
On 1/25/2012 9:26 AM, bvdp wrote:
I'm having a disagreement with a buddy on the packaging of a program
we're doing in Python. It's got a number of modules and large number
of library files. The library stuff is data, not code.
How much data? Megabytes? Gigabytes?
I have some modules
Hi everyone,
I was fiddling around with CGIHTTPServer.py --- a very handy module
for quickly setting up a full HTTP server with CGI support --- when I
noticed that it doesn't support responses other than 200 OK. So, for
instance if your page wants to do a redirect (response 303), it just
isn't
Jabba Laci wrote:
Hi,
I have a simple PyQt application that creates a webkit instance to
scrape AJAX web pages. It works well but I can't call it twice. I
think the application is not closed correctly, that's why the 2nd call
fails. Here is the code below. I also put it on pastebin:
On Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:20:24 PM UTC-7, Michael Torrie wrote:
I'm getting mangled by the debian maintainers and friends who seem to
believe that python modules need to go into /usr/lib/python...
I guess the maintainers aren't distinguishing between python apps and
their submodules
On Friday, January 27, 2012 3:15:44 PM UTC-7, John Nagle wrote:
On 1/25/2012 9:26 AM, bvdp wrote:
I'm having a disagreement with a buddy on the packaging of a program
we're doing in Python. It's got a number of modules and large number
of library files. The library stuff is data, not code.
s='你好'
t=u'你好'
s
'\xc4\xe3\xba\xc3'
t
u'\u4f60\u597d'
t=us
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in module
NameError: name 'us' is not defined
how can i use us to express u'你好'??
can i add someting in us to express u'你好'??
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No. I hadn't known Cython.
Now, I'll try to use Cython.
thanks.
umedoblock
(-28163年01月-9日 04:59), Stefan Behnel wrote:
umedoblock, 27.01.2012 03:03:
I'd like to call super() in c extension.
I'd like to rewrite class Baa as c extension.
Have you
as far as i know
u'中国'.encode('utf-8')
'\xe4\xb8\xad\xe5\x9b\xbd'
so,'\xe4\xb8\xad\xe5\x9b\xbd' is the utf-8 of '中国'
u'中国'.encode('gbk')
'\xd6\xd0\xb9\xfa'
so,'\xd6\xd0\xb9\xfa' is the utf-8 of '中国'
u'中国'
u'\u4e2d\u56fd'
what is the meaning of u'\u4e2d\u56fd'?
u'\u4e2d\u56fd' =
Hopefully this will be a step up from Rick's threads in usefulness,
but I'm aware it's not of particularly great value!
How do you pronounce PyPI? Is it:
* Pie-Pie?
* Pie-Pip, but without the last p? (same as above but short i)
* Pie-Pea-Eye?
* Something else?
I've been saying Pie-Pea-Eye
New submission from Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr:
Original e-mail from Apple security team:
Follow-up: 187806281
SSL 3.0 and TLS 1.0 are vulnerable to an attack described at
http://www.openssl.org/~bodo/tls-cbc.txt
OpenSSL includes a countermeasure which prevents the attack, but
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Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:
Could the AVL tree approach be extended to apply to dictionaries
containing keys of any single type that supports comparison? That
approach would autodetect UserString or similar and support it
properly.
I think we would need a place to
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New changeset 9a4131ada792 by Antoine Pitrou in branch '2.6':
Issue #13885: CVE-2011-3389: the _ssl module would always disable the CBC IV
attack countermeasure.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/9a4131ada792
New changeset
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New changeset e7706bdaaa0d by Antoine Pitrou in branch '3.1':
Issue #13885: CVE-2011-3389: the _ssl module would always disable the CBC IV
attack countermeasure.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/e7706bdaaa0d
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This hopefully fixes the issue.
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Nadeem Vawda nadeem.va...@gmail.com added the comment:
I've also been unable to reproduce it on my own machine (AMD64; 8GB RAM).
I guess I'll have to do some trial-and-error debugging using the custom
builder to figure this out.
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Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
Indeed, there seems to be no mechanism available to forbid NUL chars under
Windows (for Python 3.x):
open(LICENSE\x00foobar)
_io.TextIOWrapper name='LICENSE\x00foobar' mode='r' encoding='cp1252'
os.stat(LICENSE\x00foobar)
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Charles-François Natali neolo...@free.fr added the comment:
See (permanently closed?) similar bug at:
I reopened it.
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Since the NUL-scanning will be useful for Modules/posixmodule.c as well,
perhaps it should be done as a private _PyUnicode_HasNULChars() function.
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New changeset 2863d9273abd by Antoine Pitrou in branch '3.2':
Issue #13812: When a multiprocessing Process child raises an exception, flush
stderr after printing the exception traceback.
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Patch now committed, thanks.
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New submission from Nadeem Vawda nadeem.va...@gmail.com:
I've recently come across a strange failure in the tests for the input()
built-in function:
$ ./python -E -m test -v test_readline test_builtin
[... snip ...]
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
For the record, the proposed solution in that e-mail is the following:
B) Patch the run() method of pydoc module at line 1862:
for importer, modname, ispkg in
pkgutil.walk_packages(onerror=lambda s:None):
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Here's another patch that ensures the test always exercises the GNU
readline code path (rather than the stdio fallback). This will cause the
failure to occur when running just test_builtin (no need to also run
test_readline before it).
New submission from Jörn Hees nrej9...@joernhees.de:
I wanted to create a function registrar d using a defaultdict. The library
that this registrar is passed to expects it to return functions taking 3 args.
Now if the first call is d.get(x) it seems that in contrast to d[x] the default
arg of
New submission from Nadeem Vawda nadeem.va...@gmail.com:
While investigating issue 13886, I found that test_builtin will fail when run
after test_tk:
$ ./python -Wd -E -bb -m test -vuall test_tk test_builtin
== CPython 3.3.0a0 (default:52f68c95e025, Jan 26 2012, 19:05:09) [GCC 4.6.1]
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com added the comment:
Just noting that the pep380 integration branch is also available in the
hg.python.org clone of my sandbox repo.
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Aside from some minor comments that I included in my review, the latest patch
gets a +1 from me.
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Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment:
It's certainly intentional behaviour: all the defaultdict does is provide a
__missing__ method. And as explained in
http://docs.python.org/library/stdtypes.html#mapping-types-dict
No other operations or methods invoke __missing__().
So
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I think New features like inflateReset2(), inflateMark(), or Z_TREES
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No, the latest revision of Modules/zlibmodule.c doesn't use any of these
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Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com added the comment:
Antoine's review picked up on several issues I missed or glossed over - I
actually agree with his point about making most of the new APIs private rather
than public.
With regards to exposing _testbuffer in the documentation of memoryview's
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
With regards to exposing _testbuffer in the documentation of
memoryview's hash support, perhaps it would be better to use a 1D
bytes object + memoryview.cast() to get an officially supported
multi-dimensional view of a region of memory?
By
Tim Willis schadenfreude...@gmail.com added the comment:
Attaching a patch which merges aliases code from 3.2 back into 2.7.
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Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org added the comment:
Thank you for handling this, Antoine!
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sbt shibt...@gmail.com added the comment:
Quite honestly I don't like the way that polling a pipe reads a partial message
from the pipe. If at all possible, polling should not modify the pipe.
I think the cleanest thing would be to switch to byte oriented pipes on Windows
and create PipeIO
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New changeset 089a086252fc by Benjamin Peterson in branch '3.2':
note that get() is not affected by default_factory (closes #13887)
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/089a086252fc
New changeset 26612ad451ad by Benjamin Peterson in
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com added the comment:
Branch status update:
- Text Sequence Types section updated to reflect the new structure
- changed the prose that describes the relationship between printf-style
formatting and the str.format method (deliberately removing the implication
that
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com added the comment:
One other things the branch doesn't currently sort out is the official
signature of count() and index().
In 3.2, for *all* of str, bytes, bytearray, tuple, list, range, the index()
method takes the optional start:stop parameters.
New submission from Samuel Iseli samuel.is...@gmail.com:
We are using python as an embedded scripting environment in our ERP-product.
Since upgrading to python2.7 we have serious issues with floats:
28710.0
'2870:.0'
round(28710.0)
2870.0
We are embedding Python in a Delphi-application.
The
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Ezio Melotti ezio.melo...@gmail.com added the comment:
Have you considered/planned to rework a bit the beginning of the page too?
(Technically the issue is about the Sequence types section, but the whole page
could be improved.)
IMHO the sections about Truth value testing, Boolean operations,
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STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment:
Oh, you can also try something else: add the volatile keyword.
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New submission from Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr:
I don't know if these are related to the latest changes, but they only appear
on the 3.3 buildbots:
==
FAIL: test_case_insensitivity
New submission from John Zimmerman johzi...@cisco.com:
Python's socket module as included in Ubuntu Lucid (python version 2.6.5) does
not correctly handle and exclude malformed UDP packets. This means that UDP
listening programs written in python on this version are susceptible to
Jim Jewett jimjjew...@gmail.com added the comment:
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Antoine Pitrou rep...@bugs.python.org wrote:
If I read your [Martin v. Löwis' ] patch correctly, collisions will
produce additional allocations ... That's a pretty massive
change in memory consumption for
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
What do you call malformed UDP packets and how should they be detected by the
library?
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John Zimmerman johzi...@cisco.com added the comment:
Thanks for your quick response, I downloaded the ISIC tool and used the
following command to identify the problem:
udpsic -s rand -d server-ip-address,port
where port is 514 (syslogd) which uses a python script to process the incoming
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
But what does the ISIC tool report and why do you think it is a problem in
Python's socket module?
As far as I can read on its website, ISIC is a suite of utilities to exercise
the stability of an IP Stack and its component stacks (TCP, UDP,
John Zimmerman johzi...@cisco.com added the comment:
Hi Antoine,
The issue is that the CPU spikes to ~90% utilization for the server during the
attack, for as long as the attack lasts. So the theory is that Python isn't
throttling or processing the malformed packets properly. Copying
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
The issue is that the CPU spikes to ~90% utilization for the server
during the attack, for as long as the attack lasts. So the theory is
that Python isn't throttling or processing the malformed packets
properly. Copying Renier for any
Sandro Tosi sandro.t...@gmail.com added the comment:
There are a lot more occurrences of 'floating point' in our doc: are you going
to fix them too?
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Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment:
Samuel, can you regenerate your patch? The contents don't look right---I see
changes to pyport.h, but none to floatobject.c (and some other
spurious-looking changes to the project file).
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Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:
I *am* a bit concerned that the possible contents of a dictentry
change; this could cause easily-missed-in-testing breakage for
anything that treats table as an array.
This is indeed a concern: the new code needs to be exercised.
I came
Charles-François Natali neolo...@free.fr added the comment:
I don't want to be harsh, but this whole report just doesn't make sense
You're getting 90% CPU usage simply because you're flooding your server.
Closing.
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Charles-François Natali neolo...@free.fr added the comment:
Could you please indicate exactly the command you're running, and provide the
full backtrace?
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abhishek creativeabhishekg...@gmail.com added the comment:
Check This out
http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/b99c54acb22d/Modules/zlib/inflate.c
http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/b99c54acb22d/Modules/zlib/zconf.h
http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/b99c54acb22d/Modules/zlib/zconf.in.h
All three
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment:
I'm a bit disturbed that we're not using the _Py_SET_53BIT_PRECISION_* macros
in _Py_double_round; unless I'm missing something, that seems like a major
omission.
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Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
[Martin's approach]
The point I first missed is that this triggers only when the hash is
*fully* equal; if the hashes are merely equal after masking, then
today's try-another-slot approach will still be used, even for
strings.
But then isn't
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Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:
But then isn't it vulnerable to Frank's first attack as exposed in
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2012-January/115726.html ?
It would be, yes. That's sad.
That could be fixed by indeed creating trees in all cases (i.e. moving
New submission from Jack Jansen jackjan...@users.sourceforge.net:
I found a problem with the handling of manifest files in the msvc9compiler.
Distutils removes the reference to the MSVC runtime from the manifest resource,
to enable installing the runtime system locally (i.e. to allow
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Issue #13889: Add missing _Py_SET_53BIT_PRECISION_* calls around uses of dtoa.c
functions in float round.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/5b884955
New changeset
Brett Cannon br...@python.org added the comment:
I was getting that error the other day on my OS X laptop, but then I thought I
tweaked the code well enough to solve it (since I am running on a
case-insensitive filesystem as well). It seems to stem from what nt.environ
contains when the test
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment:
but none to floatobject.c
Bah, reading comprehension fail. Now that I look at your patch again, the
floatobject.c changes are there (and pretty much match what I just committed).
I assume that the changes to pythoncore.vcproj can be
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Brett Cannon br...@python.org added the comment:
Otherwise it's the nt.listdir() comparison that's failing. Probably should
check that is returning reasonable stuff as well.
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Stefan Krah stefan-use...@bytereef.org added the comment:
I've added some comments on Rietveld. This time, I pasted the email
addresses manually into the CC field, apparently without success
(I didn't receive mail).
Regarding the use of _testbuffer in the docs: I agree that it's strange,
on the
Dave Malcolm dmalc...@redhat.com added the comment:
On Fri, 2012-01-27 at 21:02 +, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:
But then isn't it vulnerable to Frank's first attack as exposed in
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
Well apparently nt.environ doesn't reflect os.environ:
os.environ['PYTHONCASEOK'] = '1'
nt.environ['PYTHONCASEOK']
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in module
KeyError: 'PYTHONCASEOK'
nt.environ[b'PYTHONCASEOK']
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfrever@gmail.com added the comment:
Modules/zlib directory contains only bundled copy of zlib-1.2.5.
zlib Python module uses Modules/zlibmodule.c file.
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This is a new feature, not a bug, so I think the correct fix is to change the
2.7 documentation, since at this point 2.7 can only get bugfixes, not new
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Alexander Belopolsky alexander.belopol...@gmail.com added the comment:
Can we pick an API for this functionality that does not follow the worst of
design anti-patterns? Constant arguments, varying return type, hidden import,
and the list can go on.
What is wrong with simply creating a new
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Yes, volatile works, too. That's probably the best solution.
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Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
Well, creating a separate module is an anti-pattern in itself. calendar vs.
time vs. datetime, anyone?
I would instead propose separate functions: decimal_time, decimal_clock... or,
if you prefer, time_decimal and so on.
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Well, to be completely unambiguous. This works:
diff -r d2cf8a34ddf9 Modules/faulthandler.c
--- a/Modules/faulthandler.cThu Jan 26 00:15:07 2012 -0800
+++ b/Modules/faulthandler.cFri Jan 27 23:16:27 2012 +0100
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Alexander Belopolsky alexander.belopol...@gmail.com added the comment:
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Antoine Pitrou rep...@bugs.python.org wrote:
Well, creating a separate module is an anti-pattern in itself. calendar vs.
time vs. datetime, anyone?
Are you serious? Since the invention of
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
Are you serious? Since the invention of structural programming,
creating a separate module for distinct functionality has been one of
the most powerful design techniques.
Yes, I'm serious, and I don't see what structural programming or design
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Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu added the comment:
We are aware that key-binding deletion is not working correctly.
I am pretty sure this report has the same underlying issue as #4765.
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#13836 is another report of key-binding deletion not working correctly,
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New submission from Giovanni Funchal gafunc...@gmail.com:
GIHTTPServer.py is a very handy module for quickly setting up a full HTTP
server with CGI support. However, I noticed that it doesn't support responses
other than 200 OK. So, for instance if the page wants to do a redirect
(response
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Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu added the comment:
Do we actually yet another function, or could this be covered by adding a
parameter such as monotonic=False, perhaps to wallclock().
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Changes by Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu:
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Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu added the comment:
See also #13849
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