On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 9:55:39 AM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> sohcahtoa82:
>
> > On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 7:09:35 AM UTC-7, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> >> Grant Edwards :
> >> > Were there other languages that did something similar?
> >>
> >> In XML, whitespace between tags is signific
On Tuesday 28 June 2016 16:12, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Rustom Mody wrote:
>> I said that for the Haskell list [0..]
>>
>> [0..] ++ [-1] == [0..]
>>
>> He said (in effect) yes that -1 would not be detectable but its still there!
>
> The code to generate it is there, but it will never
> be execute
On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 11:42:29 AM UTC+5:30, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Rustom Mody wrote:
> > I said that for the Haskell list [0..]
> >
> > [0..] ++ [-1] == [0..]
> >
> > He said (in effect) yes that -1 would not be detectable but its still there!
>
> The code to generate it is there, but it
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
Or my favorite example of a parser headache: which is the loop
instruction and which is the assignment
DO10I=3,14
DO 10 I = 3.14
And if the programmer and/or compiler gets it wrong,
your spacecraft crashes into the planet.
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Gregory Ewing :
> Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> We cannot get any information on black holes proper because black holes
>> cannot come into existence according to the very theory that predicts
>> black holes. It will take infinitely long for an event horizon to form.
>
> Only in some frames of referenc
On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 11:12:59 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 June 2016 14:31, Rustom Mody wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 6:36:06 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> >> On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 12:23 am, Rustom Mody wrote:
> >> > Also how is GG deliberately down
BartC wrote:
You mean the rationale was based on saving keystrokes?
Maybe disk space as well -- bytes were expensive
in those days!
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Chris Angelico :
> Or Windows-1252, but declared as Latin-1. (Bane of my life.)
J
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Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
We cannot get any information on black holes proper because black holes
cannot come into existence according to the very theory that predicts
black holes. It will take infinitely long for an event horizon to form.
Only in some frames of reference.
By your reasoning, Zeno'
Rustom Mody wrote:
I said that for the Haskell list [0..]
[0..] ++ [-1] == [0..]
He said (in effect) yes that -1 would not be detectable but its still there!
The code to generate it is there, but it will never
be executed, so the compiler is entitled to optimise
it away. :-)
He may have a po
Ben Finney writes:
> decorator_with_args = lambda decorator: lambda *args, **kwargs:
> lambda func: decorator(func, *args, **kwargs)
> I would like to see a more Pythonic, more explicit and expressive
> replacement with its component parts easily understood.
How's this:
from functools im
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> And how does that encourage clients to support Unicode? It just enables
> developers to tell themselves "It's just a few weirdos and foreigners who use
> Unicode, ASCII [by which they mean Latin 1] is good enough for everyone."
>
Or Window
On Tuesday 28 June 2016 14:31, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 6:36:06 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 12:23 am, Rustom Mody wrote:
>> > Also how is GG deliberately downgrading clear unicode content to be kind
>> > to obsolete clients at recipient end d
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 12:02 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
> Howdy all,
>
> I want an explicit replacement for a common decorator idiom.
>
> There is a clever one-line decorator that has been copy-pasted without
> explanation in many code bases for many years::
>
> decorator_with_args = lambda decora
On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 8:19:05 PM UTC+5:30, Alain Ketterlin wrote:
> Grant Edwards writes:
> > Did the poor sod who wrote the compiler think it was a good idea?
>
> I don't know, but he has a good excuse: he was one of the first to ever
> write a compiler (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co
Howdy all,
I want an explicit replacement for a common decorator idiom.
There is a clever one-line decorator that has been copy-pasted without
explanation in many code bases for many years::
decorator_with_args = lambda decorator: lambda *args, **kwargs: lambda
func: decorator(func, *args,
It is my privilege to present you with another release in the Python 2.7
series, Python 2.7.12.
Since the release candidate, there were two changes:
- The Windows binaries have been changed to use OpenSSL 1.0.2h.
- The "about" dialog in IDLE was fixed.
Downloads, as always, are on python.org:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 6:36:06 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 12:23 am, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > Also how is GG deliberately downgrading clear unicode content to be kind
> > to obsolete clients at recipient end different from python 2 → 3 making
> > breaking changes b
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 7:32 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> If you're primarily worried about classes and functions, here's a neat
> trick you can use:
>
> __all__ = []
> def all(thing):
> __all__.append(thing.__name__)
> return thing
Barry Warsaw has written a nice decorator called 'public'
sohcahto...@gmail.com:
> On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 7:09:35 AM UTC-7, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Grant Edwards :
>> > Were there other languages that did something similar?
>>
>> In XML, whitespace between tags is significant unless the document type
>> says otherwise. On the other hand, leading a
On 06/27/2016 08:28 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 10:01 am, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
>
>> The Outlook style works well in a business environment where the
>> recipient is likely the original sender of the quoted text, and doesn't
>> need the context -- the quoted copy is just a
On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 12:46 pm, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 6/27/2016 6:29 PM, Pavel S wrote:
>
>> Frankly, do you always unit-test if __all__ works?
>
> One should. CPython's test suite includes test___all__. I believe it
> imports every stdlib module, looks for __all__, and if present, tests
> tha
Oh, and while I'm ranting about top-posting, there's another reason why it's
shit. Speaking from experience, it makes searching email archives awful.
I've been in the position of having to go through email archives looking for
relevant email discussions related to a legal dispute. Trying to search
On 6/27/2016 6:29 PM, Pavel S wrote:
Frankly, do you always unit-test if __all__ works?
One should. CPython's test suite includes test___all__. I believe it
imports every stdlib module, looks for __all__, and if present, tests
that it works. It probably executes 'from module import *'. A
On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 10:01 am, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> The Outlook style works well in a business environment where the
> recipient is likely the original sender of the quoted text, and doesn't
> need the context -- the quoted copy is just a courtesy copy in this case.
No it doesn't work well.
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016, at 20:32, Chris Angelico wrote:
> If you're primarily worried about classes and functions, here's a neat
> trick you can use:
How about just
__all__ = [list of stuff including classes and functions]
__all__ = [x if isinstance(x, str) else x.__name__ for x in __all__]
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> Not sure if this fits the bill, or makes sense here, but I came cross
> "docopt" which touts itself as a "Command-line interface description
> language". I used it in a project and it seems to be pretty easy to use
> as well as elegant. It stores the arguments & values as a dictionary,
> keyed by
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:55 AM, MRAB wrote:
> On 2016-06-28 01:32, Chris Angelico wrote:
> [snip]
>
>> If you're primarily worried about classes and functions, here's a neat
>> trick you can use:
>>
>> __all__ = []
>> def all(thing):
>> __all__.append(thing.__name__)
>> return thing
>>
>
On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 06:56 am, Pavel S wrote:
> Hi,
> I today uncovered subtle bug and would like to share it with you.
>
> By a mistake, I forgot to put comma into '__all__' tuple of some module.
> Notice missing comma after 'B'.
>
> # module foo.py
> __all__ = (
> 'A',
> 'B'
> 'C',
On 2016-06-28 01:32, Chris Angelico wrote:
[snip]
If you're primarily worried about classes and functions, here's a neat
trick you can use:
__all__ = []
def all(thing):
__all__.append(thing.__name__)
return thing
Err... won't that hide the 'all' builtin?
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On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 11:59 pm, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2016-06-26, BartC wrote:
>
>> (Note, for those who don't know (old) Fortran, that spaces and tabs are
>> not significant. So those dots are needed, otherwise "a eq b" would be
>> parsed as "aeqb".)
>
> I've always been baffled by that.
>
On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 01:27 am, MRAB wrote:
> On 2016-06-27 14:59, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2016-06-26, BartC wrote:
>>
>>> (Note, for those who don't know (old) Fortran, that spaces and tabs are
>>> not significant. So those dots are needed, otherwise "a eq b" would be
>>> parsed as "aeqb".)
>>
On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 5:37:29 AM UTC+12, Steven Truppe wrote:
> i want to write an application that works for both 32 bit and 64bit on
> my 64bit ubuntu system, my problem i only find 64bit libraries under
> /usr/lib, there is also a path callled /x86_64-linux-gnu/ <- are these
> the libr
On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 2:23:16 AM UTC+12, Rustom Mody wrote:
> python 2 → 3 making breaking changes but not going beyond ASCII lexemes?
You do know Python 3 allows Unicode letters in identifiers, right?
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On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 12:23 am, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 6:58:26 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 10:48 pm, Rustom Mody wrote:
>>
>> > PS Google Groups is wise enough to jump through hoops trying to encode
>> > my message above as latin-1, then as W
On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 7:09:35 AM UTC-7, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Grant Edwards :
>
> > On 2016-06-26, BartC wrote:
> >
> >> (Note, for those who don't know (old) Fortran, that spaces and tabs
> >> are not significant. So those dots are needed, otherwise "a eq b"
> >> would be parsed as "aeqb
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:56 AM, Pavel S wrote:
> By a mistake, I forgot to put comma into '__all__' tuple of some module.
> Notice missing comma after 'B'.
>
> # module foo.py
> __all__ = (
> 'A',
> 'B'
> 'C',
> )
>
> class A: pass
> class B: pass
> class C: pass
>
> If you try to im
On 06/27/2016 02:14 PM, codewiz...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 5:45:18 PM UTC-4, Michael Torrie wrote:
>>
>> Qt's a fantastic toolkit, and the most mature of any of them, and the
>> most portable, but man the bindings are not Pythonic at all.
>
> Enaml feels pretty Pythonic to m
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016, at 16:56, Pavel S wrote:
> Porposal: allow putting objects into __all__ directly, so possible
> problems will be found earlier:
Question: What happens if the object in __all__ isn't the same object
that's in the module?
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On 27/06/2016 23:45, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 3:27:40 AM UTC+12, MRAB wrote:
On 2016-06-27 14:59, Grant Edwards wrote:
Why would a language designer think it a good idea?
It let you have identifiers like "grand total"; there was no need for
camel case or undersc
On 06/26/2016 07:12 PM, MRAB wrote:
Is it a problem with Tk itself or with the Python wrapper? Would it be
better if we made a more Pythonic version of Tkinter, e.g. making
Frame.title a property?
I would say it's the wrapper.
I appreciate all the work being done on tkinter lately, but it's s
On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 2:32:48 AM UTC+12, Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> On 2016-06-27, BartC wrote:
>
>> I bet your code isn't very 'Pythonic' then!
>
> No, not when the end goal is to move it into C.
I wonder: how much real-world C code would be broken if the operator
precedences in C were cha
On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 3:27:40 AM UTC+12, MRAB wrote:
> On 2016-06-27 14:59, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> Why would a language designer think it a good idea?
>>
> It let you have identifiers like "grand total"; there was no need for
> camel case or underscores to separate the parts of the name.
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Pavel S wrote:
>> but what about integers or strings?
>
> Can you provide example?
Sure. I'll spare you the wall of text that is os.__all__, but here's the types:
>>> import os
>>> {type(getattr(os, x)).__name__ for x in os.__all__}
{'bool', 'module', 'function',
> but what about integers or strings?
Can you provide example?
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No matter if __all__ uses names or objects, I think it should be validated not
only when importing '*', but always.
Frankly, do you always unit-test if __all__ works?
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On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 3:27:40 AM UTC+12, MRAB wrote:
>
> On 2016-06-27 14:59, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>
>> Were there other languages that did something similar?
>>
> Algol 60 and Algog 68.
Algol 68 was actually slightly different. There were two separate alphabets:
one used for names of con
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:56 AM, Pavel S wrote:
> Porposal: allow putting objects into __all__ directly, so possible problems
> will be found earlier:
>
> # module foo.py
> class A: pass
> class B: pass
> class C: pass
>
> __all__ = (A, B, C)
>
> Note: this currently don't work.
>
from foo i
Hello,
I am using Transcrypt (Python to Javascript translator) to create
games for kids, and introduce them to programming.
You can give an eye here :
https://github.com/artyprog/GFK
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Hi,
I today uncovered subtle bug and would like to share it with you.
By a mistake, I forgot to put comma into '__all__' tuple of some module. Notice
missing comma after 'B'.
# module foo.py
__all__ = (
'A',
'B'
'C',
)
class A: pass
class B: pass
class C: pass
If you try to import
On Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 5:45:18 PM UTC-4, Michael Torrie wrote:
>
> Qt's a fantastic toolkit, and the most mature of any of them, and the
> most portable, but man the bindings are not Pythonic at all.
Enaml feels pretty Pythonic to me:
https://github.com/nucleic/enaml
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On 2016-06-27, Steven Truppe wrote:
> i want to write an application that works for both 32 bit and 64bit on
> my 64bit ubuntu system, my problem i only find 64bit libraries under
> /usr/lib, there is also a path callled /x86_64-linux-gnu/ <- are these
> the libraries i should use for 32 bit a
On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 11:07:29 PM UTC+5:30, Steven Truppe wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> i want to write an application that works for both 32 bit and 64bit on
> my 64bit ubuntu system, my problem i only find 64bit libraries under
> /usr/lib, there is also a path callled /x86_64-linux-gnu/ <- are th
Hi all,
i want to write an application that works for both 32 bit and 64bit on
my 64bit ubuntu system, my problem i only find 64bit libraries under
/usr/lib, there is also a path callled /x86_64-linux-gnu/ <- are these
the libraries i should use for 32 bit and 64 bit programming ??
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On Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 11:16:01 PM UTC-7, John Ladasky wrote:
> On Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 7:41:17 PM UTC-7, Michael Torrie wrote:
> > If GTK+ had first-class support on Windows and Mac, including native
> > themes and seamless UI integration (file and print dialogs), I'd say
> > GTK+ would b
On Monday 27 June 2016 06:28 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Monday 27 June 2016 15:34, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 4:56:10 PM UTC+12, Sachin Garg wrote:
>>
>>> # Set verbose flag
>>> verbose = False
>>> if arguments['--verbose']:
>>> verbose = True
>>> elif arg
Rustom Mody :
> On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 7:42:26 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> I'm a formalist.
>
> Well then formalism is semantics-free: What matters it if an argument
> is theological or scientific as long as it is (internally) consistent?
That's what I'm saying: black holes can't e
Is there a live installation of Pandas for Windows 64?
Regards.
David
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On 26Jun2016 1932, Larry Hastings wrote:
https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-352/
...
/p.s. There appears to be a small oops with the Windows installers for
3.5.2--uploaded to the wrong directory or something. They'll be
available soon, honest!
That oops is now fixed, but I wanted
On Monday 27 June 2016 09:28:00 Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 10:48 pm, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > PS Google Groups is wise enough to jump through hoops trying to
> > encode my message above as latin-1, then as Windows 1252 and only
> > when that does not work as UTF-8
>
> There is noth
On 2016-06-27, MRAB wrote:
> On 2016-06-27 14:59, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2016-06-26, BartC wrote:
>>
>>> (Note, for those who don't know (old) Fortran, that spaces and tabs are
>>> not significant. So those dots are needed, otherwise "a eq b" would be
>>> parsed as "aeqb".)
>>
>> I've always
On 2016-06-27 14:59, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2016-06-26, BartC wrote:
(Note, for those who don't know (old) Fortran, that spaces and tabs are
not significant. So those dots are needed, otherwise "a eq b" would be
parsed as "aeqb".)
I've always been baffled by that.
Were there other language
On 06/27/2016 12:44 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 6:16:01 PM UTC+12, John Ladasky wrote:
>
>> Between the Py3 requirement and the need to work with all major OS's, I
>> decided to learn PyQt and not GTK+.
>
> GTK+ is available for Python 3.
>
> No doubt it will wo
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:53 AM Victor Savu
wrote:
> capture the [StopIteration] value in the `else` statement of the `for` loop
>
I'm having trouble thinking of a case when this new feature is necessary.
Can you show a more realistic example?
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Grant Edwards writes:
> On 2016-06-26, BartC wrote:
>
>> (Note, for those who don't know (old) Fortran, that spaces and tabs are
>> not significant. So those dots are needed, otherwise "a eq b" would be
>> parsed as "aeqb".)
>
> I've always been baffled by that.
> Were there other languages th
On 2016-06-27, BartC wrote:
> On 27/06/2016 15:04, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2016-06-27, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>>> Do you write much Python code that you expect to also be valid C code?
>>
>> Depends on what you mean by "much", but yes, it's certainly
>> something I do. I often develop and
On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 7:42:26 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Rustom Mody :
>
> > On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 7:16:03 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> >> Georg Cantor would probably be with your colleague, but then, Georg
> >> Cantor was not a scientist.
> >
> > I'm mystified
> >
>
On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 6:58:26 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 10:48 pm, Rustom Mody wrote:
>
> > PS Google Groups is wise enough to jump through hoops trying to encode my
> > message above as latin-1, then as Windows 1252 and only when that does not
> > work as UTF-
On 27/06/2016 15:04, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2016-06-27, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Do you write much Python code that you expect to also be valid C code?
Depends on what you mean by "much", but yes, it's certainly something
I do. I often develop and test algorithms in Python and then
cut/paste
On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 7:30:05 PM UTC+5:30, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2016-06-26, BartC
> > (Note, for those who don't know (old) Fortran, that spaces and tabs are
> > not significant. So those dots are needed, otherwise "a eq b" would be
> > parsed as "aeqb".)
>
> I've always been baffled
Rustom Mody :
> On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 7:16:03 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Georg Cantor would probably be with your colleague, but then, Georg
>> Cantor was not a scientist.
>
> I'm mystified
>
> Earlier (I thought) you were on the Platonist = {Cantor, Hilbert...}
> side
> Now you s
Grant Edwards :
> On 2016-06-26, BartC wrote:
>
>> (Note, for those who don't know (old) Fortran, that spaces and tabs
>> are not significant. So those dots are needed, otherwise "a eq b"
>> would be parsed as "aeqb".)
>
> I've always been baffled by that.
>
> Were there other languages that did
On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 7:16:03 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Rustom Mody :
>
> > I am reminded of an argument I once had with a colleague about
> > infinite, lazy data-structures
> >
> > I said that for the Haskell list [0..]
> >
> > [0..] ++ [-1] == [0..]
>
> [...]
>
> > He said (in
On 2016-06-27, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Do you write much Python code that you expect to also be valid C code?
Depends on what you mean by "much", but yes, it's certainly something
I do. I often develop and test algorithms in Python and then
cut/paste much of the Python code into C programs. T
Steven D'Aprano :
> On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 10:48 pm, Rustom Mody wrote:
>
>> PS Google Groups is wise enough to jump through hoops trying to
>> encode my message above as latin-1, then as Windows 1252 and only
>> when that does not work as UTF-8
>
> There is nothing admirable about GG (or any other n
On 2016-06-26, BartC wrote:
> (Note, for those who don't know (old) Fortran, that spaces and tabs are
> not significant. So those dots are needed, otherwise "a eq b" would be
> parsed as "aeqb".)
I've always been baffled by that.
Were there other languages that did something similar?
Why wou
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016, at 00:26, Zachary Ware wrote:
> A: Because you have to read things in reverse order.
> Q: Why?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What's one of the most annoying common email practices?
Which is witty, but doesn't *actually* explain why it's bad.
1. The intent, as I understand it, with
Rustom Mody :
> I am reminded of an argument I once had with a colleague about
> infinite, lazy data-structures
>
> I said that for the Haskell list [0..]
>
> [0..] ++ [-1] == [0..]
[...]
> He said (in effect) yes that -1 would not be detectable but its still
> there!
Georg Cantor would probabl
On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 9:31:04 AM UTC-4, Nagy László Zsolt wrote:
> On 2016-06-23, MRAB wrote:
> >> On 2016-06-23 21:58, David Shi via Python-list wrote:
> >>> Can any one tell me?
> >>> Regards.
> >>> David
> >>>
> >> There's one in the standard library.
> > Which has always worked fine for
> Thanks, I'm in the same position as you, except that I'm in the position
> where I need it use the result, and if it ever returns INF my function will
> blow up. But it doesn't look like that can happen.
>
Doesn't atan2 relies on the C lib math floating point library? At least
in CPython. I thin
On 2016-06-23, MRAB wrote:
>> On 2016-06-23 21:58, David Shi via Python-list wrote:
>>> Can any one tell me?
>>> Regards.
>>> David
>>>
>> There's one in the standard library.
> Which has always worked fine for me...
Which always reminds me:
>>> import json
>>> d = {0:1, False:2}
>>> d
{0: 2}
>>>
On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 10:48 pm, Rustom Mody wrote:
> PS Google Groups is wise enough to jump through hoops trying to encode my
> message above as latin-1, then as Windows 1252 and only when that does not
> work as UTF-8
There is nothing admirable about GG (or any other newsreader or email
client)
On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 12:10:21 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano :
>
> > Naive empirical falsification can, at best, be considered as a
> > best-practice rule: if you have no way of falsifying something even in
> > principle, then it's not scientific. But it doesn't really
On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 5:53:07 PM UTC+5:30, Bob Gailer wrote:
> On Jun 26, 2016 5:29 PM, "Michael Torrie" wrote:
> >
> > On 06/26/2016 12:47 PM, Christopher Reimer wrote:
>
> > Sounds like fun. Every aspiring programmer should write an interpreter
> > for some language at least once in his
On Jun 26, 2016 5:29 PM, "Michael Torrie" wrote:
>
> On 06/26/2016 12:47 PM, Christopher Reimer wrote:
> Sounds like fun. Every aspiring programmer should write an interpreter
> for some language at least once in his life!
In the mid 1970' s I helped maintain an installation of IBM' s APL
inter
On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 07:53 pm, BartC wrote:
> On 27/06/2016 05:20, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>> How did I discover this? Entirely by accident: I forgot the parentheses
>> one day and *didn’t* hit a bug. :)
>
> That's not wise. It could have worked by chance. And putting in the
> parentheses anyw
On Monday 27 June 2016 15:34, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 4:56:10 PM UTC+12, Sachin Garg wrote:
>
>> # Set verbose flag
>> verbose = False
>> if arguments['--verbose']:
>> verbose = True
>> elif arguments['-q']:
>> verbose = False
>
> Don’t you just love code
On 27/06/2016 05:20, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
There is one thing Python did not slavishly copy from C. While it has (mostly) the
same operators, and exclusively adopted the iso646 names for the Boolean operators
(which you can also use in C and C++, by the way, but not Java), it made a slight
Elizabeth Weiss wrote:
> What is the point of this code?:
>
> word=[]
> print(word)
>
> The result is []
>
> When would I need to use something like this?
You often need to intialize a list, sometime with (empty) = [].
Then after initializing you should do "something" that perhaps will fill
Let us say that I install PostgreSQL from an activated virtualenv using yum or
apt-get, will PostgrSQL be local or global?
I understand that virtualenv isolates the Python environment only, so I surmise
that it will make no difference installing with yum/apt-get inside or outside
the virtua
On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 3:12:34 AM UTC+1, MRAB wrote:
[snip]
> > Not sure that wxPython is really any different in that respect, and Tkinter
> > doesn't feel Pythonic to me, either -- considering how it's Tk at heart.
> > So what's the alternative? There really is no good Python-based GUI t
PyGTK is obsolete and stopped at Python 2.7, while PyGObject for Windows is
several versions behind (currently 3.18 vs 3.21) and it doesn't support Python
3.5. Game over for GTK+.
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Sayth Renshaw writes:
>> The code below is obviously wrong - it is surprising that you get
>> anything other than an exception. See comments below inserted into
>> your code.
>>
>> > def parseXML():
>> > ...
>> > result = etree.tostring(tree.getroot(), pretty_print=True)
>>
>> "resul
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