Am 23.01.17 um 18:24 schrieb breamore...@gmail.com:
The article is here http://lenkaspace.net/index.php/blog/show/111
I don't agree with it (unsurprisingly), even though Python is not my
favourite language in itself, but a viable compromise for many
circumstances. Below is a point-by-point r
I'm trying to build a tkinter GUI with python 3.5, and would like to
interactively adjust the color palette for an image by moving the mouse in the
canvas using PIL. In pseudo-code, I have something like
palette=color_map(x,y) # x,y are scalars indicating the position of the mouse
in the Can
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Bob Martin wrote:
> in 770207 20170124 005601 Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>>REXX has even less structure than Python - it doesn't even have
>>functions, just labels, so you can actually have two functions that
>>share a common tail. And yes, you can abuse that horrend
in 770207 20170124 005601 Chris Angelico wrote:
>REXX has even less structure than Python - it doesn't even have
>functions, just labels, so you can actually have two functions that
>share a common tail. And yes, you can abuse that horrendously to
>create unreadable code. Is REXX a bad language b
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Tuesday 24 January 2017 15:41, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> Remember: If you have only one clock, it might be right and it might
>> be wrong, but it's consistent. If you have two clocks and they
>> disagree, you have no clue what the time
On Tuesday 24 January 2017 15:41, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Remember: If you have only one clock, it might be right and it might
> be wrong, but it's consistent. If you have two clocks and they
> disagree, you have no clue what the time is.
During the golden age of sail, there was a saying, never g
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> But more seriously, it's easy to typo an extra indent. It's harder to typo
> "endif" when you actually meant to type, oh, "ending = 1 if condition else 3",
> say. So faced with ambiguity, and the insistence that the right way to break
> amb
Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 22:55:19 +, mm0fmf declaimed the
following:
50lbs of coffee beans made into espresso and 22lbs of chocolate to eat
with all those tiny cups.
How about just 75lbs of chocolate co
On Tuesday 24 January 2017 13:41, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Steve D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> Reading his post, I get the impression he's the sort of programmer who
>> believes in never, ever, ever, ever re-using a variable, so he might do
>> something like:
>>
>> raw_dat
On Tuesday 24 January 2017 13:38, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 12:47 PM, BartC wrote:
>> Take the same code with block
>> delimiters, and take out that same indent:
>>
>> if 0 then
>> print ("one")
>> print ("two")
>> endif
>> print ("three")
>>
>> It still compiles, it st
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> Reading his post, I get the impression he's the sort of programmer who
> believes in never, ever, ever, ever re-using a variable, so he might do
> something like:
>
> raw_data = collect_raw_data() # generates 10GB of data
> data_after_step
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 12:47 PM, BartC wrote:
> On 24/01/2017 00:56, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 11:44 AM, BartC wrote:
>
>
>>> With C++ or Java, it's possible to tell the indentation is wrong (because
>>> of
>>> the extra redundancy of having the indentation /and/ block
On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 08:55 am, BartC wrote:
> On 23/01/2017 17:34, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:24 AM, wrote:
>>> The article is here http://lenkaspace.net/index.php/blog/show/111
>>
>> I would respond point-by-point if I thought the author had a clue.
>
> I thought points
On 24/01/2017 00:56, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 11:44 AM, BartC wrote:
With C++ or Java, it's possible to tell the indentation is wrong (because of
the extra redundancy of having the indentation /and/ block delimiters).
That's a bit harder in Python making source more fragi
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber
wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 22:55:19 +, mm0fmf declaimed the
> following:
>
>
>>50lbs of coffee beans made into espresso and 22lbs of chocolate to eat
>>with all those tiny cups.
>>
> How about just 75lbs of chocolate covered espres
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 11:44 AM, BartC wrote:
> On 23/01/2017 22:09, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> 1 is wrong - there is structure, same as in every language. Or if it's
>> true, it's true in every language.
>
>
> Python (I think in common with other scripting languages) allows you to
> place statemen
On 23/01/2017 22:09, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:55 AM, BartC wrote:
On 23/01/2017 17:34, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:24 AM, wrote:
The article is here http://lenkaspace.net/index.php/blog/show/111
I would respond point-by-point if I thought the
On 01/23/2017 02:19 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Grant Edwards
> wrote:
>> On 2017-01-23, breamore...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> The article is here http://lenkaspace.net/index.php/blog/show/111
>>
>> I don't really think any of his points are valid, but one way that
On 01/23/2017 11:24 AM, breamore...@gmail.com wrote:
> The article is here http://lenkaspace.net/index.php/blog/show/111
>
> Kindest regards.
>
> Mark Lawrence.
>
Beyond silly. Languages - like all tools - can be used properly or badly.
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On 23/01/2017 21:04, Adam M wrote:
On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 3:41:17 PM UTC-5, Jon Ribbens wrote:
On 2017-01-23, alister wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:19:42 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
I believe that's "bad for you" in the sense that chocolate is bad for
you.
It isn't.
chocolate is a
On 01/23/2017 09:00 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2017-01-23, Antoon Pardon wrote:
The standard response to issues like this is:
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds
And wise consistency is the foundation of a good language design.
Otherwise known as: if there's not a
On 01/23/2017 01:55 PM, BartC wrote:
On 23/01/2017 17:34, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:24 AM, breamoreboy wrote:
The article is here http://lenkaspace.net/index.php/blog/show/111
I would respond point-by-point if I thought the author had a clue.
I thought points 1 to 4
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:55 AM, BartC wrote:
> On 23/01/2017 17:34, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:24 AM, wrote:
>>>
>>> The article is here http://lenkaspace.net/index.php/blog/show/111
>>
>>
>> I would respond point-by-point if I thought the author had a clue.
>
>
> I t
On 23/01/2017 17:34, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:24 AM, wrote:
The article is here http://lenkaspace.net/index.php/blog/show/111
I would respond point-by-point if I thought the author had a clue.
I thought points 1 to 4 were valid, in that the assertions were true.
Poi
On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 20:39:26 +, Jon Ribbens wrote:
> On 2017-01-23, alister wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:19:42 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> I believe that's "bad for you" in the sense that chocolate is bad for
>>> you.
>>>
>>> It isn't.
>>
>> chocolate is a poison (lethal dose for a
On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 5:59:42 PM UTC, Sourabh Kalal wrote:
> how we can access the value from using id..
> like x=10
> id(x)
> 3235346364
>
> how i can read value 10 using id 3235346364
What are you trying to achieve here? If you'd explain that rather than how
you're trying to achieve
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:23 AM, wrote:
> I have a string like
>
> "Trump is $ the president of USA % Obama was $ the president of USA % Putin
> is $ the premier of Russia%"
>
> Here, I want to extract the portions from $...%, which would be
>
> "the president of USA",
> "the president of USA",
I have a string like
"Trump is $ the president of USA % Obama was $ the president of USA % Putin is
$ the premier of Russia%"
Here, I want to extract the portions from $...%, which would be
"the president of USA",
"the president of USA",
"the premier of Russia"
and would work some post extr
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:04 AM, Adam M wrote:
> On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 3:41:17 PM UTC-5, Jon Ribbens wrote:
>> On 2017-01-23, alister wrote:
>> > On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:19:42 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> >> I believe that's "bad for you" in the sense that chocolate is bad for
>> >> yo
On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 3:41:17 PM UTC-5, Jon Ribbens wrote:
> On 2017-01-23, alister wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:19:42 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >> I believe that's "bad for you" in the sense that chocolate is bad for
> >> you.
> >>
> >> It isn't.
> >
> > chocolate is a poison
On 2017-01-23, alister wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:19:42 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> I believe that's "bad for you" in the sense that chocolate is bad for
>> you.
>>
>> It isn't.
>
> chocolate is a poison (lethal dose for a human approx 22lb)
That's a meaningless statement. *Everything*
sola dosis facit venenum ~ Paracelsus (1493-1541)
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Subject: Re: How coding in Python is bad for you
On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:19:42 +1100, Chris Angelico wrot
(sorry for top-posting)
I does not appear to be possible in matplolibrc (1). But you can use
matplotlib.cm.register_cmap to register new cmaps (2) such as these (3).
(Note: I did not try this)
(1)http://matplotlib.org/1.4.0/users/customizing.html
(2)http://matplotlib.org/api/cm_api.html
(3)https
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:26 AM, Skip Montanaro
wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> There. *Now* you have an address. Hack to your heart's content.
>>
>> No, you now have a hexadecimal representation of an integer.
>
> You missed my attempt at levity, I think.
Ah
On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:19:42 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Grant Edwards
> wrote:
>> On 2017-01-23, breamore...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> The article is here http://lenkaspace.net/index.php/blog/show/111
>>
>> I don't really think any of his points are valid, but
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> There. *Now* you have an address. Hack to your heart's content.
>
> No, you now have a hexadecimal representation of an integer.
You missed my attempt at levity, I think.
S
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On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Grant Edwards
wrote:
> On 2017-01-23, breamore...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The article is here http://lenkaspace.net/index.php/blog/show/111
>
> I don't really think any of his points are valid, but one way that
> programming in Python is bad for you:
>
> * It reduc
On 01/23/2017 10:49 AM, Sourabh Kalal wrote:
> how we can access the value from using id..
> like x=10
> id(x)
> 3235346364
>
> how i can read value 10 using id 3235346364
Many objects in python such as numbers like 10 or strings are immutable;
they can never be altered once called into existance
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 6:05 AM, Skip Montanaro
wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:49 AM, Sourabh Kalal wrote:
>> > how we can access the value from using id..
>> > like x=10
>> > id(x)
>> > 3235346364
>> >
>> > how i can read value 1
On 01/23/2017 10:34 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> I would respond point-by-point if I thought the author had a clue.
Yeah a pretty bizarre, flame-bait blog post. Glad I use an ad-blocker
as a matter of course. I'm uncertain as to why Mark chose to post that
particular little gem to the list. It's
On 2017-01-23, breamore...@gmail.com wrote:
> The article is here http://lenkaspace.net/index.php/blog/show/111
I don't really think any of his points are valid, but one way that
programming in Python is bad for you:
* It reduces your tolerance for progamming in PHP zero. If you end
up ass
Den 2017-01-23 skrev blue :
> you have here a full example , for another version not significant changes:
> http://matplotlib.org/examples/color/colormaps_reference.html
Thanks but this only shows how to use it once you have it. When I run
this code I get an error message telling it can't find any
Sourabh Kalal wrote:
> how we can access the value from using id..
> like x=10
> id(x)
> 3235346364
>
> how i can read value 10 using id 3235346364
Use ctypes:
$ python3
Python 3.4.3 (default, Nov 17 2016, 01:08:31)
[GCC 4.8.4] on linux
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:49 AM, Sourabh Kalal wrote:
> > how we can access the value from using id..
> > like x=10
> > id(x)
> > 3235346364
> >
> > how i can read value 10 using id 3235346364
>
> No, you can't. That isn't a memory addre
On 1/23/2017 12:49 PM, Sourabh Kalal wrote:
how we can access the value from using id..
like x=10
id(x)
3235346364
how i can read value 10 using id 3235346364
*In Python*, you cannot. Ids are mainly for internal use of
implementations. Implementors also use them to test their implementation
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:49 AM, Sourabh Kalal wrote:
> how we can access the value from using id..
> like x=10
> id(x)
> 3235346364
>
> how i can read value 10 using id 3235346364
No, you can't. That isn't a memory address - it's just a unique
identifier. Python doesn't have memory addresses.
C
On 01/23/2017 09:34 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:24 AM, wrote:
The article is here http://lenkaspace.net/index.php/blog/show/111
I would respond point-by-point if I thought the author had a clue.
Yeah, arguing with that person will be a waste of time.
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how we can access the value from using id..
like x=10
id(x)
3235346364
how i can read value 10 using id 3235346364
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On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:24 AM, wrote:
> The article is here http://lenkaspace.net/index.php/blog/show/111
I would respond point-by-point if I thought the author had a clue.
ChrisA
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The article is here http://lenkaspace.net/index.php/blog/show/111
Kindest regards.
Mark Lawrence.
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On 2017-01-23, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 22-01-17 om 01:52 schreef Grant Edwards:
>> Newsgroups: gmane.comp.python.general
>> From: Grant Edwards
>> Subject: Re: How to create a socket.socket() object from a socket fd?
>> References:
>>
>>
>> Followup-To:
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm still baffled why
On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 2:11:53 PM UTC, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> On 23.01.2017 14:28, Soni L. wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 23/01/17 11:18 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> >> On 23.01.2017 14:05, Soni L. wrote:
> >>> Yeah but the dotequals operator has many other benefits:
> >>>
> >>> long_name .= __call_
Op 22-01-17 om 01:52 schreef Grant Edwards:
> Newsgroups: gmane.comp.python.general
> From: Grant Edwards
> Subject: Re: How to create a socket.socket() object from a socket fd?
> References:
>
>
> Followup-To:
>
>
>
> I'm still baffled why the standard library fromfd() code dup()s the
> de
On 23.01.2017 14:28, Soni L. wrote:
>
>
> On 23/01/17 11:18 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> On 23.01.2017 14:05, Soni L. wrote:
>>> Yeah but the dotequals operator has many other benefits:
>>>
>>> long_name .= __call__ # cast to callable
>>> long_name .= wrapped # unwrap
>>> etc
>>>
>>> And it also
On Thursday 19 Jan 2017 20:08 CET, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> I am writing a python program to start the programs that need to be
> started after logging in.
I published what I have until now at:
https://github.com/CecilWesterhof/PythonScripts/blob/master/startPrograms.py
I do not mind some fe
you have here a full example , for another version not significant changes:
http://matplotlib.org/examples/color/colormaps_reference.html
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Cecil Westerhof writes:
> I build python3.6 on two systems. On one system everything is OK:
> Python 3.6.0 (default, Jan 21 2017, 11:19:56)
> [GCC 4.9.2] on linux
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>
>
> But on another I get:
> Could not find platform depend
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