On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 6:10 PM, Jim Lee wrote:
> On 07/02/18 17:34, Dan Stromberg wrote:
>
> The fact of the matter is the economics have changed a lot since then.
> Machine time used to be really expensive compared to developer time.
> Today, it's the opposite: developer time is really expensive
David D wrote:
Is there a SIMPLE method that I can have a TIMER count down at a user input
prompt - if the user doesn't enter information within a 15 second period, it
times out.
import signal, sys
def timeout(*args):
print("Too late!")
sys.exit(0)
signal.signal(signal.SIGALRM, timeou
Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Nevertheless, the later socket object cannot unilaterally take over a
socket using SO_REUSEADDR. The earlier socket object must have set the
same option previously.
I just did an experiment that suggests that's not the case.
I created a socket without SO_REUSEADDR, made a
On 03Jul2018 07:52, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
that's another oddity i wanted to clear
how do i know that string methods accept or and and in like .replace("a" or
"b")
i can't figure out how to deduce that it can accept that
Well, it accepts an expression like that, but it doesn't do wh
that's another oddity i wanted to clear
how do i know that string methods accept or and and in like .replace("a" or
"b")
i can't figure out how to deduce that it can accept that
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ
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On 07/02/2018 06:22 PM, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> A
> truly good programmer will be able to learn about the language
> being used on the job.
Except that the current attempt is to use techniques like agile,
scrum, pair programming, and so forth to turn programming into
a factory activity. High degre
On 7/2/2018 8:57 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 12:53:15 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 6/29/2018 6:14 AM, BlindAnagram wrote:
In Python 3.7.0 on Windows the help file (python370.chm) displays with
a fixed line length and does not adjust its line length when the user
expands the
On 07/02/18 17:51, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
For most of us mere mortals, the "ten thousand hours" rule of thumb
applies.
Ten thousand hours should be read as an indefinitely large number
A truly good programmer will be able to learn about the
language being used on the job.
Indeed, if you d
On 07/02/18 17:34, Dan Stromberg wrote:
The fact of the matter is the economics have changed a lot since then.
Machine time used to be really expensive compared to developer time.
Today, it's the opposite: developer time is really expensive compared
to machine time.
If you go back far
On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 12:53:15 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 6/29/2018 6:14 AM, BlindAnagram wrote:
>> In Python 3.7.0 on Windows the help file (python370.chm) displays with
>> a fixed line length and does not adjust its line length when the user
>> expands the help window horizontally. This behav
On Tue, 03 Jul 2018 11:22:56 +1200, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Someone who is familiar with a
> variety of languages is also very likely to be self-motivated and have
> enough passion and curiosity to have acquired a broad and deep knowledge
> of other aspects of the craft.
"Jack of all trades, maste
On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 8:51 PM, Jim Lee wrote:
> Languages that used to be small, lean, and exceptional at doing things
> really well in a given domain have morphed into large, monolithic, bloated
> language *systems* that do many things in many domains, and have many ways
> to do the *same* thin
On 07/02/18 16:22, Gregory Ewing wrote:
Ian Kelly wrote:
Just because somebody knows a dozen languages
doesn't mean that they can come up with the correct algorithm,
That doesn't mean there's no correlation. Someone who is familiar
with a variety of languages is also very likely to be self-m
On Monday 02 July 2018 18:29:17 Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2018-07-02, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 02 July 2018 17:17:21 Grant Edwards wrote:
> >> On 2018-07-02, T Berger wrote:
> >> > Is there any way to set posts to appear chronologically in tree
> >> > view?
> >>
> >> http://slrn.sourcef
Ian Kelly wrote:
Just because somebody knows a dozen languages
doesn't mean that they can come up with the correct algorithm,
That doesn't mean there's no correlation. Someone who is familiar
with a variety of languages is also very likely to be self-motivated
and have enough passion and curios
T Berger writes:
> Here is another question. I replied to this email in my inbox. But
> it's not showing here.
Please understand that the “here” you mention is subjective, for your
particular view of this forum.
This forum is distributed over many servers, and the participants here
use various
T Berger writes:
> Is there any way to set posts to appear chronologically in tree view?
Yes, depending on what software you use to interact with this forum. See
the documentation for that software.
In the case of Gnus, that ordering is the default when viewing the group
summary.
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[Chris A]
> [Mikhail]
> > So Imo default syntax should be something like:
> >
> > S = "A:{x41}B:{x42}"
> >
> > instead of backslashes and Co.
>
> So how do you represent brace characters in a string?
\{ and \}
just kidding :-D
I would be ok with {L} and {R} - easy on eye and easy to rememb
BlindAnagram schreef op 30/06/2018 15:50:
On 30/06/2018 10:43, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 12:53:15 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 6/29/2018 6:14 AM, BlindAnagram wrote:
In Python 3.7.0 on Windows the help file (python370.chm) displays with
a fixed line length and does not adjust
On 2018-07-02, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 02 July 2018 17:17:21 Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> On 2018-07-02, T Berger wrote:
>> > Is there any way to set posts to appear chronologically in tree
>> > view?
>>
>> http://slrn.sourceforge.net/docs/slrn-manual.html
>
> That s/b the default if threadi
On Monday 02 July 2018 17:17:21 Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2018-07-02, T Berger wrote:
> > Is there any way to set posts to appear chronologically in tree
> > view?
>
> http://slrn.sourceforge.net/docs/slrn-manual.html
That s/b the default if threading is turned off. It is in T-bird and
kmail. B
On 2018-07-02, T Berger wrote:
> Is there any way to set posts to appear chronologically in tree
> view?
http://slrn.sourceforge.net/docs/slrn-manual.html
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On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 2:36:00 PM UTC-4, Dan Stromberg wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 11:02 AM, T Berger wrote:
>
> > Is there any way to set posts to appear chronologically in tree view? And
> > why is the tree view completely out of order? My last two posts in this
> > view are from 6/27 a
Is there a SIMPLE method that I can have a TIMER count down at a user input
prompt - if the user doesn't enter information within a 15 second period, it
times out. I am going to be using pycharm and not the shell. Thanks in
advance.
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On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 10:53 PM Jim Lee wrote:
> I did get one epiphany out of that. He's right - there are orders of
> magnitude more programmers today than there were a couple of decades ago
> - and they ARE almost all entry level, in that they are fluent in only
> one (maybe two) languages.
T
On 07/02/18 04:01, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jul 2018 20:51:42 -0700, Jim Lee wrote:
Back before the dot com boom, programmers (generally) knew at least 6,
7, 8 languages.
You obviously didn't know (m)any of the hundreds of thousands of COBOL
programmers.
I did know a handful, b
On 2 Jul 2018, Michael Torrie wrote
(in article):
> On 06/30/2018 11:10 AM, Elliott Roper wrote:
> > I should have mentioned that none of this went wrong in 3.6. All I'm after
> > are packages I can install with pip3. I really don't need to go down all the
> > twisty passages installing Fortran
>
On 2018-07-02 19:02, T Berger wrote:
Is there any way to set posts to appear chronologically in tree view? And why
is the tree view completely out of order? My last two posts in this view are
from 6/27 and 6/28.
You haven't said what software you're using to view this list.
Judging by your e
On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 11:02 AM, T Berger wrote:
> Is there any way to set posts to appear chronologically in tree view? And
> why is the tree view completely out of order? My last two posts in this
> view are from 6/27 and 6/28.
>
I'm thinking you may want to specify what software you're talkin
On 2018-07-02 18:16, Richard Damon wrote:
On 7/2/18 9:20 AM, Mikhail V wrote:
[Richard Damon]
The one major issue with backslashes is that they are a special
character in string literals, so you either need to use raw literals a
remember the few cases they still act as special characters, or r
Is there any way to set posts to appear chronologically in tree view? And why
is the tree view completely out of order? My last two posts in this view are
from 6/27 and 6/28.
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On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 1:22:59 PM UTC-4, T Berger wrote:
> On Saturday, June 30, 2018 at 6:02:06 PM UTC-4, T Berger wrote:
> > On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 7:00:15 PM UTC-4, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> >
> > > The key point here from Jim is "simultaneously". Are you properly
> > > shutting down
Gregory Ewing :
> Dan Stromberg wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 10:30 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>
>>>Well, the same security issue can be demonstrated without
>>>SO_REUSEADDR:
>>>
>>>The security issue can be real but is not directly related with
>>>SO_REUSEADDR.
>>
>> Yes, it can. It just ta
On 07/01/2018 12:17 PM, MRAB wrote:
> On 2018-07-01 18:06, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
>> was viewing pep526, so, finally, python cannot do without hinting the type
>> as other languages?
>> will python finally move to
>> int x = 3 where int is a pre annotation?
>>
>> i am not arguing it's usef
On Saturday, June 30, 2018 at 6:02:06 PM UTC-4, T Berger wrote:
> On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 7:00:15 PM UTC-4, Cameron Simpson wrote:
>
> > The key point here from Jim is "simultaneously". Are you properly shutting
> > down
> > the Flask instance in IDLE before running from Terminal, and vice v
On 7/2/18 9:20 AM, Mikhail V wrote:
> [Richard Damon]
>
>> The one major issue with backslashes is that they are a special
>> character in string literals, so you either need to use raw literals a
>> remember the few cases they still act as special characters, or remember
>> to convert them to doub
On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 2:20 AM, Mikhail V wrote:
> [Richard Damon]
>
>> The one major issue with backslashes is that they are a special
>> character in string literals, so you either need to use raw literals a
>> remember the few cases they still act as special characters, or remember
>> to conver
[Richard Damon]
> The one major issue with backslashes is that they are a special
> character in string literals, so you either need to use raw literals a
> remember the few cases they still act as special characters, or remember
> to convert them to double back slashes, at a minimum for all the
>
On 7/2/2018 9:50 AM, Michael Torrie wrote:
If you're wanting to use SciPy and matplotlib, I suggest you stick with
Python 3.6. There's little reason to immediately go to Python 3.7.
Anytime you upgrade to the very latest version of Python, it's going to
take some time for binary wheels to be bu
On 06/30/2018 11:10 AM, Elliott Roper wrote:
> I should have mentioned that none of this went wrong in 3.6. All I'm after
> are packages I can install with pip3. I really don't need to go down all the
> twisty passages installing Fortran
That's because there were likely binary packages available
hello,
OpenOpt Suite v 0.5627 (OpenOpt, FuncDesigner, SpaceFuncs, DerApproximator)
is available for downloading from the link
https://app.box.com/s/yubipvy5q91x8w3eoglhi0tn5d9i854a
(unfortunately, I still cannot update it in PYPI entries because of
problems with incorrect password)
It fixes compat
On 2018-07-02, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> In the long run, why do we always fear people coming from other
> languages?
Tribalism and fear of outsiders was bred into H. sapiens (and
ancestors) millions of years ago?
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On Sun, 01 Jul 2018 20:51:42 -0700, Jim Lee wrote:
> Back before the dot com boom, programmers (generally) knew at least 6,
> 7, 8 languages.
You obviously didn't know (m)any of the hundreds of thousands of COBOL
programmers.
(A language conspicuous by its absence from your impressively large l
Eryk,
thanks for your to-the-point in-depth posts.
Karsten
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