On Friday 04 January 2019 19:18:46 Avi Gross wrote:
> Oops. They autocorrected the word piethon below so it makes no sense.
> I meant a pie-eating-marathon or whatever.
>
I did wonder about that, damn the spiel chucker's anyway.
> -Original Message-
> From: Python-list
> On Behalf Of Avi
I don't go back to the beginning of FORTRAN. My comment was not that FORTRAN
was badly named when it was among the first to do such things. I am saying
that in retrospect, almost any language can do a basic subset of arithmetic
operations. And there is nothing in principle that necessarily stops an
On 01/03/2019 06:35 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 03 January 2019 15:28:49 Grant Edwards wrote:
>> About 20 years ago, the RedHat Linux (way before RHEL) installer
>> (which was written in Python) was called Anaconda.
> Thanks for rescuing my old wet ram Grant, thats exactly what I was
>
Oops. They autocorrected the word piethon below so it makes no sense. I
meant a pie-eating-marathon or whatever.
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Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 6:55 PM
To: python-list@python.org
Subject: RE: the python name
Gene,
It is simple
Gene,
It is simple in Python:
if "IV" in "FIVE":
print("Roman 4 is 5!")
prints:
Roman 4 is 5!
Just a stupid coincidence that the spelling in current English for the
numeral Five happens to have the silly one-less than 5 notation of the Roman
numerals IV.
Maybe someone with my perverted s
On Friday 04 January 2019 16:37:49 Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 8:31 AM Gene Heskett
wrote:
> > On Friday 04 January 2019 13:22:03 Ian Kelly wrote:
> > > And then there was WATFIV, which stands for WATerloo Fortran IV.
> > > Because 5 == IV.
> >
> > Not what I was taught 75 yea
Rick Johnson wrote:
...
> You're singing a sad tune songbird, but i feel your pain...
like all things, this too shall pass... :)
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You can play mathematical reduction games and declare the only type of
variable needed is a memory location but who cares?
The reality is that well designed data structure can allow you to think
about a problem in a way that leads to easy solutions. True, you can store
something like an employee r
On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 8:31 AM Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> On Friday 04 January 2019 13:22:03 Ian Kelly wrote:
> > And then there was WATFIV, which stands for WATerloo Fortran IV.
> > Because 5 == IV.
>
> Not what I was taught 75 years ago. Thats a brand new definition of fuzzy
> logic. :(
Maybe it's
On Friday 04 January 2019 13:22:03 Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 10:59 AM Dennis Lee Bieber
wrote:
> > On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 01:12:42 -0500, "Avi Gross"
> >
> >
> > declaimed the following:
> > >language, Formula Translator? (I recall using the What For
> > > version).
> >
> >
Às 19:39 de 02/01/19, Hartmut Goebel escreveu:
> Am 03.12.18 um 18:39 schrieb Paulo da Silva:
>> This also has a bad side effect! It reinstalls there some depedencies
>> already installed in the conda created environment!
>>
>> Is there a way to avoid this situation?
>
> Try whether `pyvenv --sys
Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> songbird wrote:
hi,
thank you for your reply.
...
> Almost all of these points don't seem to be related to the language, but
> to your environment.
an application isn't useful unless it actually can
be deployed and used in an environment.
the easier it is for me
Às 19:54 de 09/12/18, Tim Williams escreveu:
> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 10:13:14 PM UTC-5, Monte Milanuk wrote:
>> Did you find any solution(s)?
>
> I usually just lurk and read on this list. I don't reply since there's
> usually more competent people that regularly post helpful answers.
> On Jan 4, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Avi Gross wrote:
>
>
[BYTE]
> As I joked in an earlier message, I remember using a version of FORTRAN
> called WATFOR. Yes, there was a WATFIV.
>
>
Yah - WATFOR was Waterloo FORTRAN, an interpreted FORTRAN that was used a lot
in intro classes. No matter w
On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 10:59 AM Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
>
> On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 01:12:42 -0500, "Avi Gross"
> declaimed the following:
>
>
> >language, Formula Translator? (I recall using the What For version).
>
> WATFOR => WATerloo FORtran
And then there was WATFIV, which stands for WA
On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 10:44 AM iamybj--- via Python-list
wrote:
>
> { id: 1, name:’abc’, age:99, address:{province:’CA’, city:’SA’}}
Those are nested dicts, not tuples, which leaves your argument really unclear.
A dict is essentially a hash map. Java and C# (it's unclear what
language you're co
On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 4:43 AM iamybj--- via Python-list
wrote:
>
> { id: 1, name:’abc’, age:99, address:{province:’CA’, city:’SA’}}
>
> Can be represent by:
>
> Class Address {
> public string province;
> public string city;
> }
>
> Class Person {
> public int id;
>
On 2019-01-04 11:34:24 -0500, Avi Gross wrote:
> Although I used FORTRAN ages ago and it still seems to be in active
> use, I am not clear on why the name FORMULA TRANSLATOR was chosen.
Keep in mind that FORTRAN was one of the very first languages which
didn't have a 1:1 mapping to machine code. A
{ id: 1, name:’abc’, age:99, address:{province:’CA’, city:’SA’}}
Can be represent by:
Class Address {
public string province;
public string city;
}
Class Person {
public int id;
public string name;
public int age;
public Address address;
}
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Avi Gross wrote:
...
this is really a computation theory question and for the
most part you'll find that all languages of suitable power
can replace each other.
arguably some languages seem more expressive or easier
to read than others.
but the most popular languages will often have trans
On Thursday 03 January 2019 15:28:49 Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2019-01-03, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Do I miss-remember that there was an anaconda language at sometime
> > in the past? Not long after python made its debute? I've not see it
> > mentioned in a decade so maybe its died?
>
> About 20 y
Hello,
I'm as new to this mailinglist as I'm to Win10 (actually les than 24
hour). Just installed both on my new Thinkpad.
Well, accidently I also just installed Python 3.7.2 (32-bit).
Now I have trouble to get rid of it (in favour of the 64-bit version).
I tried to "uninstall the App" more
On Friday, January 4, 2019 at 9:05:11 AM UTC+1, iam...@icloud.com wrote:
> I read that pep 484 type hinting of python has no effect of performance, then
> what’s the purpose of it? Just a toy ?
Having no effect on performance is a good thing; Python is already slowish,
additional runtime type che
William,
Although I used FORTRAN ages ago and it still seems to be in active use, I am
not clear on why the name FORMULA TRANSLATOR was chosen. I do agree it does
sound more like a computer language based on both the sound and feel of FORTRAN
as well as the expanded version.
It seems to have b
On 1/4/2019 4:04 AM, iamybj--- via Python-list wrote:
In fact, there is only 3 types in all prigramming languages.
'Category' would be a better term. Better said might be: "One can
usefully group types/classes of values/objects into 3 categories."
Primitive type: int, string, bool, char...
On 3/01/19 2:03 PM, Avi Gross wrote:
> Challenge: Can we name any computer language whose name really would suggest
> it was a computer language?
> I think the name is the least important aspect of a computer language.
I’d like to propose that classic FORTRAN (FORmulaTRANslator) came/comes close.
it will have it's uses ... for people who want to make some hacks like ...
source-to-source compilers
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
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Mohan Mohta wrote:
> Hello,
> I am trying to grep the keyword (which I got from report_file ) from
> report_file
>
> I tried multiple ways but am unable to get it to work.
>
> Below are the methods I tried.
>
>
> fp=open(txt_file,'r')
> for line in fp :
> line=line.strip()
>
On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 7:50 AM Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 8:06 PM iamybj--- via Python-list
> wrote:
> >
> > In fact, there is only 3 types in all prigramming languages.
> > Primitive type: int, string, bool, char
> > Complex type: struct or class
> > Array Type: int[10]
On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 10:16 PM wrote:
>
> On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 9:40:43 PM UTC+1, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 7:37 AM Mohan Mohta wrote:
> > > I am no expert in python but I found grep is lot faster in than the
> > > methods of reading files from python point
On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 8:06 PM iamybj--- via Python-list
wrote:
>
> In fact, there is only 3 types in all prigramming languages.
> Primitive type: int, string, bool, char
> Complex type: struct or class
> Array Type: int[10], string[100], struct[1000]
>
> These 3 type can represent all thins i
On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 9:40:43 PM UTC+1, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 7:37 AM Mohan Mohta wrote:
> > I am no expert in python but I found grep is lot faster in than the methods
> > of reading files from python point me to direction if you know of
> > anything faste
On 2019-01-04 02:04:14 -0500, songbird wrote:
> Rick Johnson wrote:
> > songbird wrote:
> >
> ...
> >> if you want to know the perspective of a new person
> >> to the language and to help out make it better i have
> >> a few suggestions for where to spend your time in a
> >> way that will help out
In fact, there is only 3 types in all prigramming languages.
Primitive type: int, string, bool, char
Complex type: struct or class
Array Type: int[10], string[100], struct[1000]
These 3 type can represent all thins in the world.
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On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 7:54 PM Ian Kelly wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 1:20 AM Chris Angelico wrote:
> > > Pep484 is too complex. Typle should not a seperate type, in fact it
> > > should be just a class. Like this in other programming language
> > > Python: Tuple(id: int, name: string, age:
On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 1:20 AM Chris Angelico wrote:
> > Pep484 is too complex. Typle should not a seperate type, in fact it should
> > be just a class. Like this in other programming language
> > Python: Tuple(id: int, name: string, age: int)
> > Other: class someClass {
> > public int i
On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 7:06 PM iamybj--- via Python-list
wrote:
>
> I read that pep 484 type hinting of python has no effect of performance, then
> what’s the purpose of it? Just a toy ?
Yep, it's just a toy. There's absolutely no reference anywhere in the
PEP to "rationale and goals", or any me
I read that pep 484 type hinting of python has no effect of performance, then
what’s the purpose of it? Just a toy ?
Python is an old programming language, but not better than other programming
languages, then what are you all dong for so many times ?
Pep484 is too complex. Typle should not a
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