Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

2021-05-05 Thread Richard Damon
On 5/5/21 10:44 PM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: > On 2021-05-06, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 5/5/21 9:40 PM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: >>> On 2021-05-06, Paul Bryan wrote: What's involved in moderating c.l.p? Would there be volunteers willing to do so? >>> Nothing at all

Programmed energy use

2021-05-05 Thread Avi Gross via Python-list
Benjamin, The topic is being changed by me because I get amused by statistics. We can all agree that any form of energy use uses energy, duh! But that does not make it good or bad in isolation. If I had a job that had me wake up every day in the dark, drive for an hour to an airport, hop acros

Re: Bloody rubbish

2021-05-05 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Mr Flibble writes: > Python is slow and significant whitespace is patently absurd. Why am I not surprised to learn your "fast" implementation turns out to be something other than python? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

2021-05-05 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2021-05-06, Richard Damon wrote: > On 5/5/21 9:40 PM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: >> On 2021-05-06, Paul Bryan wrote: >>> What's involved in moderating c.l.p? Would there be volunteers willing >>> to do so? >> Nothing at all is involved, apart from changing the status of the group. >> T

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

2021-05-05 Thread Richard Damon
On 5/5/21 9:40 PM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: > On 2021-05-06, Paul Bryan wrote: >> What's involved in moderating c.l.p? Would there be volunteers willing >> to do so? > Nothing at all is involved, apart from changing the status of the group. > The moderation would be done by the same peop

RE: neoPython : Fastest Python Implementation: Coming Soon

2021-05-05 Thread Avi Gross via Python-list
Chris, I got the fastest python yesterday as it was so fast that it beat the one coming tomorrow. The trick is adding back the legs that evolution allowed to lapse. Without bated breath, Regardless, Avi -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Chris Angelico Sent: Wednesday,

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

2021-05-05 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2021-05-06, Paul Bryan wrote: > What's involved in moderating c.l.p? Would there be volunteers willing > to do so? Nothing at all is involved, apart from changing the status of the group. The moderation would be done by the same people, in the same way, as the moderation of the list is done no

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

2021-05-05 Thread Paul Bryan
What's involved in moderating c.l.p? Would there be volunteers willing to do so? On Thu, 2021-05-06 at 00:43 +, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: > On 2021-05-06, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:32 AM Paul Bryan wrote: > > > > > > Given the ease of spoofing sender addre

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

2021-05-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:43 AM Avi Gross via Python-list wrote: > > Chris, > > Given some notice, what stops anyone from joining the mailing list before > there is a divorce between the forums? Nothing! Nothing at all. That is, if you're talking about *people*. People are absolutely welcome to j

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

2021-05-05 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2021-05-06, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:32 AM Paul Bryan wrote: >> >> Given the ease of spoofing sender addresses, and its propensity for use >> in anonymous spamming and trolling (thanks python-list-owner for >> staying on top of that!), I propose to disconnect comp.lang

RE: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

2021-05-05 Thread Avi Gross via Python-list
Chris, Given some notice, what stops anyone from joining the mailing list before there is a divorce between the forums? Everybody has trivial access to an email account these days and many mailers allow incoming messages that fit a pattern to be placed in some names folder to be read as a group i

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

2021-05-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:32 AM Paul Bryan wrote: > > Given the ease of spoofing sender addresses, and its propensity for use > in anonymous spamming and trolling (thanks python-list-owner for > staying on top of that!), I propose to disconnect comp.lang.python from > the python-list mailing list.

Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

2021-05-05 Thread Paul Bryan
Given the ease of spoofing sender addresses, and its propensity for use in anonymous spamming and trolling (thanks python-list-owner for staying on top of that!), I propose to disconnect comp.lang.python from the python-list mailing list. Both would then operate independently. Paul -- https://ma

Re: Unsubscribe/can't login

2021-05-05 Thread Greg Ewing
On 6/05/21 12:58 am, Peter Otten wrote: Does that happen with all my messages? I've seen two pairs of duplicate messages from you in this thread so far, with the same content but slightly different line wrapping. Looks like a gateway somewhere isn't recognising them as the same message. Readin

Re: [OT] Annoying message duplication, was Re: Unsubscribe/can't login

2021-05-05 Thread Peter Otten
On 05/05/2021 20:08, Jan van den Broek wrote: On 2021-05-05, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: On 05/05/2021 16:10, Ethan Furman wrote: I see your messages twice (occasionally with other posters as well).?? I have no idea how to fix it.?? :( OK, I'll try another option from Thunderbird's

Re: Transistion from module to package and __init__.py

2021-05-05 Thread Dieter Maurer
Chris Nyland wrote at 2021-5-4 22:20 -0400: > ... >So for a while now I have taken to converting >my module, in this example database.py, to the __init__.py of the package. >I remember reading years back that having code in the __init__.py was bad >practice but I can't remember reading for any spec

Re: neoPython : Fastest Python Implementation: Coming Soon

2021-05-05 Thread Ian Clark
I wish you best of luck, on top of everything else it looks like the neopython namespace has already been eaten up by some crypto project On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 11:18 AM Benjamin Schollnick < bscholln...@schollnick.net> wrote: > > Why? The currently extant Python implementations contribute to cli

Re: neoPython : Fastest Python Implementation: Coming Soon

2021-05-05 Thread Benjamin Schollnick
> Why? The currently extant Python implementations contribute to climate change > as they are so inefficient; That same argument can be made for every triple-AAA video game, game console, etc. Python is more efficient for some problem sets, and Python is less efficient for other problem sets.

Re: [OT] Annoying message duplication, was Re: Unsubscribe/can't login

2021-05-05 Thread Jan van den Broek
On 2021-05-05, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: > On 05/05/2021 16:10, Ethan Furman wrote: > >> I see your messages twice (occasionally with other posters as well).?? I >> have no idea how to fix it.?? :( > > OK, I'll try another option from Thunderbird's context menu: Followup to > Newsgrou

Re: [OT] Annoying message duplication, was Re: Unsubscribe/can't login

2021-05-05 Thread Jan van den Broek
On 2021-05-05, Jim Byrnes wrote: > On 5/5/21 9:39 AM, Peter Otten wrote: >> On 05/05/2021 16:10, Ethan Furman wrote: >> >>> I see your messages twice (occasionally with other posters as well). >>> I have no idea how to fix it.?? :( >> >> OK, I'll try another option from Thunderbird's context m

Re: Transistion from module to package and __init__.py

2021-05-05 Thread Ethan Furman
On 5/4/21 7:20 PM, Chris Nyland wrote: > Here is > where I my primary design question comes in. As organized now as described > to import and use the package I need > > from database import database > > or I have to put in the init file > > from database import * > > Either of these still leaves

Re: neoPython : Fastest Python Implementation: Coming Soon

2021-05-05 Thread Igor Korot
Hi, On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 11:47 AM Mr Flibble < flib...@i42.invalidwibblegrok.co.uk> wrote: > On 05/05/2021 17:36, Igor Korot wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 11:27 AM Mr Flibble < > > flib...@i42.invalidwibblegrok.co.uk> wrote: > > > >> On 05/05/2021 17:02, Chris Angelico wrote: >

Re: neoPython : Fastest Python Implementation: Coming Soon

2021-05-05 Thread Mr Flibble
On 05/05/2021 17:36, Igor Korot wrote: Hi, On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 11:27 AM Mr Flibble < flib...@i42.invalidwibblegrok.co.uk> wrote: On 05/05/2021 17:02, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 2:01 AM Mr Flibble wrote: neoPython : Fastest Python Implementation: Coming Soon Message en

Re: neoPython : Fastest Python Implementation: Coming Soon

2021-05-05 Thread Mr Flibble
On 05/05/2021 17:33, Mark Lawrence wrote: On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 4:57:13 PM UTC+1, Mr Flibble wrote: neoPython : Fastest Python Implementation: Coming Soon Message ends. /Flibble -- 😎 Dedicated to you and all like you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X15PsqN0DHc ORLY? If anyone is thi

Re: neoPython : Fastest Python Implementation: Coming Soon

2021-05-05 Thread Igor Korot
Hi, On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 11:27 AM Mr Flibble < flib...@i42.invalidwibblegrok.co.uk> wrote: > On 05/05/2021 17:02, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 2:01 AM Mr Flibble > > wrote: > >> > >> neoPython : Fastest Python Implementation: Coming Soon > >> > >> Message ends. > >> > >> /F

Re: neoPython : Fastest Python Implementation: Coming Soon

2021-05-05 Thread Mr Flibble
On 05/05/2021 17:02, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 2:01 AM Mr Flibble wrote: neoPython : Fastest Python Implementation: Coming Soon Message ends. /Flibble My breath: not being held. Message ends. Why? The currently extant Python implementations are so inefficient they c

Re: neoPython : Fastest Python Implementation: Coming Soon

2021-05-05 Thread Mr Flibble
On 05/05/2021 17:02, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 2:01 AM Mr Flibble wrote: neoPython : Fastest Python Implementation: Coming Soon Message ends. /Flibble My breath: not being held. Message ends. Why? The currently extant Python implementations contribute to climate chan

Re: neoPython : Fastest Python Implementation: Coming Soon

2021-05-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 2:01 AM Mr Flibble wrote: > > neoPython : Fastest Python Implementation: Coming Soon > > Message ends. > > /Flibble > My breath: not being held. Message ends. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [OT] Annoying message duplication, was Re: Unsubscribe/can't login

2021-05-05 Thread Jim Byrnes
On 5/5/21 9:39 AM, Peter Otten wrote: On 05/05/2021 16:10, Ethan Furman wrote: I see your messages twice (occasionally with other posters as well). I have no idea how to fix it.  :( OK, I'll try another option from Thunderbird's context menu: Followup to Newsgroup. Does that appear once o

neoPython : Fastest Python Implementation: Coming Soon

2021-05-05 Thread Mr Flibble
neoPython : Fastest Python Implementation: Coming Soon Message ends. /Flibble -- 😎 -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [OT] Annoying message duplication, was Re: Unsubscribe/can't login

2021-05-05 Thread Ethan Furman
On 5/5/21 7:39 AM, Peter Otten wrote: > On 05/05/2021 16:10, Ethan Furman wrote: >> I see your messages twice (occasionally with other posters as well). I have no idea how to fix it. :( > > OK, I'll try another option from Thunderbird's context menu: Followup to Newsgroup. > > Does that appea

[OT] Annoying message duplication, was Re: Unsubscribe/can't login

2021-05-05 Thread Peter Otten
On 05/05/2021 16:10, Ethan Furman wrote: I see your messages twice (occasionally with other posters as well).  I have no idea how to fix it.  :( OK, I'll try another option from Thunderbird's context menu: Followup to Newsgroup. Does that appear once or twice? In theory it should go to the

Re: Unsubscribe/can't login

2021-05-05 Thread Ethan Furman
On 5/5/21 5:58 AM, Peter Otten wrote: > On 05/05/2021 13:03, Jan van den Broek wrote: >> On 2021-05-05, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: >> Perhaps there's something wrong on my side, but I'm >> seeing this message twice: >> >> Msg-ID: mailman.145.1620211376.3087.python-l...@python.org >> Re

Re: Unsubscribe/can't login

2021-05-05 Thread Jan van den Broek
On 2021-05-05, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: > On 05/05/2021 13:03, Jan van den Broek wrote: >> On 2021-05-05, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: >> >> Perhaps there's something wrong on my side, but I'm >> seeing this message twice: [Schnipp] > Sorry for the inconvenience. > > Does t

Re: Unsubscribe/can't login

2021-05-05 Thread Peter Otten
On 05/05/2021 13:03, Jan van den Broek wrote: On 2021-05-05, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: Perhaps there's something wrong on my side, but I'm seeing this message twice: Msg-ID: mailman.145.1620211376.3087.python-l...@python.org Return-Path: __pete...@web.de and Msg-ID: mailman.146.16

Re: Unsubscribe/can't login

2021-05-05 Thread Jan van den Broek
On 2021-05-05, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: Perhaps there's something wrong on my side, but I'm seeing this message twice: Msg-ID: mailman.145.1620211376.3087.python-l...@python.org Return-Path: __pete...@web.de and Msg-ID: mailman.146.1620211381.3087.python-l...@python.org Return-Path

Re: Unsubscribe/can't login

2021-05-05 Thread Peter Otten
On 05/05/2021 05:55, Rasig Kosonmontri wrote: Hi I wanted to unsubscribe from the python mailing list because I has been sending me countless mails over the months but when I try to login on my browser it doesn't recognize this email as a user even though the mails that are coming it are to this

Re: Unsubscribe/can't login

2021-05-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 04 May 2021 23:55:26 Rasig Kosonmontri wrote: > Hi I wanted to unsubscribe from the python mailing list because I has > been sending me countless mails over the months but when I try to > login on my browser it doesn't recognize this email as a user even > though the mails that are comi