New submission from Cliff Wells cl...@develix.com:
httplib.py ~Line 924
def putheader(self, header, *values):
str = '%s: %s' % (header, '\r\n\t'.join(values))
self._output(str)
should be changed to something like:
def putheader(self, header, *values
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 13:47 -0500, Larry Bates wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wanted to know if there's any way to create a method that takes a
default parameter, and that parameter's default value is the return
value of another method of the same class. For example:
class A:
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 07:04 -0800, massimo s. wrote:
If by thoroughly you mean it actually describes technically what it
is and does but not how to really do things, yes, it is thoroughly
documented.
The examples section is a joke.
Actually I rarely use the csv module these days, but I find
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 09:50 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
massimo s. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, but it's natural for a spreadsheet-like thing to have organized
columns of data, often.
Perhaps, but that's not relevant. CSV is a serialisation format for
tabular data, and is only a
On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 15:00 -0500, Frank Samuelson wrote:
I love Python, and it is one of my 2 favorite
languages. I would suggest that Python steal some
aspects of the S language.
In general, I agree that Python has some antiquated concepts at its core
(statements being a major one) and that
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 04:54 +0800, JoJo wrote:
I want to sort a dict via its key,but I have no idea on how to do it.
Please help me,thanks.
You can't. There is, however, a recipe for an ordered dict on ASPN:
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/438823
3webXS HiSpeed
On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 08:41 -0600, Chris Mellon wrote:
On 11 Jan 2007 15:01:48 +0100, Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007-01-11, Frederic Rentsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I derive a class from another one because I need a few extra
features, is there a way to promote the base
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 12:57 -0600, Chris Mellon wrote:
In Python, you can do this simply by re-assigning the __class__. I'm
not convinced that your type system makes sense, here though. Any
reasonable ORM should be able to persist and reload an object without
losing the type information.
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 11:37 -0800, Cliff Wells wrote:
class Person: # assume this is something from the ORM
name = Kenny
class PersonRow ( Person ):
pass
def flatten_person ( p ):
return spanomg, you've killed %p/span % p.name
def flatten_personrow ( p ):
return
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 14:57 -0800, Robert Brewer wrote:
1. Expressions: pure Python lambda querying. This is perhaps the most
appealing feature of Dejavu.
Actually I just went and looked and personally I find the documentation
the most appealing feature.
Regards,
Cliff
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piotr wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:42:16 -0200, Jorge Godoy wrote:
Take a look at Kid (http://www.kid-templating.org/) and Genshi
(http://genshi.edgewall.org/).
I've already done a short look at kid, but to be honest I don't like it's
XML/Python syntax. I strongly prefer idea from
On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 01:28 -0800, Kay Schluehr wrote:
Who really wants to write web apps? Web apps are just an excuse for
Pythonistas to write web frameworks.
I've been lurking, waiting for the right moment to toss in my two cents,
and finally, and here it is.
I've been using Python
On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 08:11 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bill Atkins wrote:
On the plus side, Python makes less demands on the
capabilities of the editor. All you really need
is block-shifting commands. Bracket matching is
handy for expressions but not vital, and you
certainly
On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 00:26 -0800, hankhero wrote:
The Common-Lisp object systems has all and more OO-features, some which
you never probably have thought of before. Here's one:
Inheritance lets you specialise a method so a rectangle and a circle
can have a different Draw method. If you
On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 06:49 -0800, Beliavsky wrote:
Cliff Wells wrote:
The LA Times had a story that claimed that 64% of U.S. citizens use the
word fuck and that 74% of us have heard it in public (I'll assume the
remainder are your fellow AOL users). I expect extrapolating these
results
On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 10:12 -0800, Carl J. Van Arsdall wrote:
BartlebyScrivener wrote:
I agree. And Python is an extremely serious matter calling for decorum
and propriety.
Lol, is it really now? And I suppose its your definition of decorum and
not mine right? Things like that are
On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 10:42 -0800, Paddy wrote:
I too know your wrong Aahz. The written word is not the same as that
spoken. People should make an effort to put across their meaning in a
clear manner. If I were going to an interview I would be very careful
about swearing and most likely not
On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 11:18 -0800, Aahz wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm with Beliavsky on this one. I can't see any particular reason to curse
in a forum such as c.l.py. It just coarsens the discussion with no obvious
positive benefit as far as I can
On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 08:10 +0200, Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
John Machin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
8---
I strongly suggest that you read the docs *FIRST*, and don't tinker
at all.
This is *good* advice - its unlikely to be followed though, as the
On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 15:47 -0800, John Machin wrote:
Gabriel Genellina wrote:
At Monday 6/11/2006 20:34, Robert Kern wrote:
John Machin wrote:
Indeed yourself. Have you ever considered reading posts in
chronological order, or reading all posts in a thread?
That presumes that
For various sundry reasons, I find myself needing to deliver a
Windows-based Python app. I also chose Python 2.5 for this platform.
The app has several requirements, all of which are available for Python
2.5/Win32 except one: pycurl. So I decided to try building the source
but as it turns out,
On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 19:28 +0200, Irmen de Jong wrote:
Cliff Wells wrote:
I'm currently using Frog, and it's decent, but lacks some fundamental
features (tags for one). Since Irmen is probably going to scrap it
anyway, I'm kind of fishing about for something new.
That is not really
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 11:13 +0200, Tor Erik wrote:
Hi,
I've developed an application were I've used Tkinter for the GUI.
When I ran the GUI in another thread than the main, it kept locking
up.
I experienced similar problems with Twisted.
Both of these tools are event-based, so I guess
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 03:22 -0700, Cliff Wells wrote:
They probably use signals (Twisted I'm sure does) and it's documented
that signals don't work with threads:
http://docs.python.org/lib/module-signal.html
Er, specifically, they only work with the main thread.
Cliff
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There's been a lot of blogs started in Python, but given the recent
spate of web frameworks, I'm surprised that some blogging package hasn't
taken front seat yet.
I'm currently using Frog, and it's decent, but lacks some fundamental
features (tags for one). Since Irmen is probably going to scrap
On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 00:29 -0700, Cliff Wells wrote:
Anyone aware of any functional (doesn't need to be complete, beta is
fine) blog software written in Python?
Hmph. And as soon as I hit send I find
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonBlogSoftware
Okay, so is there any *not* on that list
On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 08:22 -0700, Fuzzyman wrote:
Cliff Wells wrote:
On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 00:29 -0700, Cliff Wells wrote:
Anyone aware of any functional (doesn't need to be complete, beta is
fine) blog software written in Python?
Hmph. And as soon as I hit send I find
http
On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 10:30 +0200, Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Antoon Pardon wrote:
One place where I would use such a feature is in a unittest
package. I think being able to write self.assert or self.raise
looks better than having to append an underscore.
patch here:
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 13:01 +0200, Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Mike Owens wrote:
Crackpot? And now we get to why I took the flamebait -- wonderfully
constructive comments such as this.
I know SQLite's author. Besides being a nice and clearly very
intelligent person, he also holds a master's
On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 13:23 +, David Isaac wrote:
I have no experience with database applications.
This database will likely hold only a few hundred items,
including both textfiles and binary files.
I would like a pure Python solution to the extent reasonable.
Since no one's mentioned
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 12:29 -0700, Kay Schluehr wrote:
Just one stupid remark since the limits of my language are the limits
of my world: I've not the slightest association with the seemingly
nonsense word buzhug and don't even know how to pronounce it
correctly. Would you have the kindness
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 18:05 -0700, Robert Hicks wrote:
metaperl wrote:
Istvan Albert wrote:
metaperl wrote:
-- python -i
class = algebra
File stdin, line 1
class = algebra
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
Designing a syntax to avoid all possible
On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 21:30 -0700, sridhar wrote:
is there any way to call stored procedures from python as in java?
I mostly use PostgreSQL, so perhaps it's different for some other
databases, but calling stored procedures doesn't require any special
support from the language or driver.
On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 23:31 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote:
On 8/31/06, Jorge Vargas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 31 Aug 2006 08:24:29 -0700, Adam Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Someone ones said on the mailing list TG is the Ubuntu of web
frameworks, and I think I'll add and you can strip
On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 09:04 -0700, Paul Boddie wrote:
SkunkWeb (3.4.0), Zope (2.9.4 and 3.2.1), Plone (2.5), Karrigell (2.3),
CherryPy (2.2.1), Spyce (2.1), QP (1.8), Cymbeline (1.3.1), Django
(0.95), Webware (0.9.1), Pylons (0.9.1), TurboGears (0.8.9), PyLucid
(v0.7.0RC4), Paste (0.4.1),
On Sun, 2006-08-27 at 07:51 -0700, Amir Michail wrote:
How often do you need to open a file multiple times for writing?
How often do you write code that you don't understand well enough to
fix? This issue is clearly a problem within *your* application.
I'm curious how you could possibly think
On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 18:54 +, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
Normally, Python compares the date stamps of the files (and maybe
some internal magic values) and only rebuilds the .pyc if the .py is
newer.
Perhaps the OP should check both the system date on his PC and the
timestamp on the
On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 04:28 -0700, Paul Boddie wrote:
Cliff Wells wrote:
On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 04:04 +, Tim Roberts wrote:
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But there are interesting things in Ruby (and Ruby 2 should take care of
lots of warts Ruby 1.8 has) that Python could
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 08:19 -0700, gene tani wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I have an idea for a project which involves an editor that supports
syntax highlighting. This would be for any language, particularly php,
html, css, etc. I would like to write this program using python.
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 02:28 -0700, Paul Boddie wrote:
Cliff Wells wrote:
No, the reason Rails is successful is due to being a decent, focused
product with *great* marketing (screencasts, anyone?).
Screencasts? Perhaps, like a great showman, they draw in the punters
effectively enough
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 22:13 +0200, Peter Maas wrote:
Alex Martelli wrote:
Indeed, it has been truthfully observed that Python's the only language
with more web frameworks than keywords.
I have already suggested to the BDFL that he can remedy this situation
in Py3k: all he has to do, of
On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 04:04 +, Tim Roberts wrote:
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But there are interesting things in Ruby (and Ruby 2 should take care of
lots of warts Ruby 1.8 has) that Python could learn from. All-in-all,
Ruby is mostly as good as Python in most ways and better
On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 08:15 +, Tim Roberts wrote:
Ordinarily, I think the do it yourself nature of Python is a great thing,
and I would never try to dissuade someone from reinventing something
themselves. However, in the case of web frameworks, I believe Marc is
fundamentally correct:
On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 21:07 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
b = [2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12]
a = [0, 1, 0, 1, 1, 0]
b = [2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12]
[ j for i, j in zip ( a, b ) if i ]
[4, 8, 10]
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Started playing with docutils and don't understand why the following
doesn't work:
from docutils.core import publish_parts
t = '''
...
... 1. this is a test
... #. this is another line
... #. oh, screw it!
...
... '''
publish_parts ( t, writer_name = 'html' ) [ 'body' ]
u'p1. this is a
On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 09:35 +0200, Sybren Stuvel wrote:
Cliff Wells enlightened us with:
Why doesn't the above turn out an enumerated list?
You have to indent the list:
from docutils.core import publish_parts
t = '''
...
...1. this is a test
...#. this is another line
On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 16:02 +0800, limodou wrote:
On 8/15/06, Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the response. Must be a bug in my version:
Which version of docutils you are using, in my computer is good.
u'ol class=arabic simple\nlithis is a test/li\nlithis is
another line
On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 00:56 -0700, Cliff Wells wrote:
Ah, I got it. From the docs:
(Auto-enumerated lists are new in Docutils 0.3.8.)
and I've got 0.3.7
Damn. Thanks for the responses.
Regards,
Cliff
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On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 16:10 +0800, limodou wrote:
On 8/15/06, Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 16:02 +0800, limodou wrote:
On 8/15/06, Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the response. Must be a bug in my version:
Which version of docutils you
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 15:51 +0200, paul kölle wrote:
Cliff Wells wrote:
For myself, I handle user-installation of TurboGears pretty much like I
do all user-installed Python packages: using setuptools. Any user who
uses easy_install or 'python setup.py install' gets their packages
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 09:49 +0200, Sybren Stuvel wrote:
Cliff Wells enlightened us with:
1) PostgreSQL fans are perhaps a bit paranoid about claims of MySQL
being better. There used to be a tiny bit of truth in this claim
for certain applications (mostly relating to performance and ease
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 23:26 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
Or is there something in PostgreSQL that makes its users acidic? :)
Well, ACID is popular in PostgreSQL circles.
Cliff
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On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 10:46 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
On 2006-08-02 00:51:28, Conrad wrote:
Which begins A few years ago
Exactly. Isn't this a good start for honesty? It doesn't claim to state
anything up to date.
It continues I did some research, some being a very clear indicator
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 23:13 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
Thanks, that's one of the conclusions to which I also came. That final
question was missing, even though I felt it was implied. I really had no
clue that this is such a touchy subject.
Every opinion in technology seems to be touchy
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 22:25 -0700, Luis M. González wrote:
I don't have experience with Django or any other python framework, but
I have used bare-bones mod_python and it rocks.
I wouldn't use PSP though...
It is not very polished, and they way it handles the indentation
problem in python is
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 10:41 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
On 2006-08-01 04:11:18, Cliff Wells wrote:
You say that you haven't tried Django or any other Python framework.
Perhaps you should. You seem to have at least the start of the right
idea about web application organization, so I
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 06:38 -0700, Luis M. González wrote:
Well... yes, you're right.
I guess that the reason for not having used a framework already is
laziness...
Trust me, I'm quite familiar with the laziness problem =)
I have experience with Karrigell, which rocks too, but it lacks some
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 07:37 -0400, Michael Yanowitz wrote:
# * class BitsClass *
class BitsClass (object):
def __init__(self, num_bits):
self.bits=[]
for i in range(num_bits):
self.bits.append(0)
def
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 17:12 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
On 2006-07-31 15:00:15, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
In fact, the real question IMHO is: what would MySQL advantage over
PostgreSQL be ?-)
A few years ago I did some research, and the result was that while
PostgreSQL was claimed
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 15:21 -0400, Michael Yanowitz wrote:
Is it possible to have a static variable in Python -
a local variable in a function that retains its value.
For example, suppose I have:
def set_bit (bit_index, bit_value):
static bits = [0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 13:02 -0700, Cliff Wells wrote:
@attrs ( bits = [ 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 ] )
Also, IMO, it's a bit more readable to write:
bits = [ 0 for i in range ( 16 ) ]
which avoids the necessity of counting the zeros to know how many there
are.
Regards
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 13:37 -0700, Cliff Wells wrote:
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 13:02 -0700, Cliff Wells wrote:
@attrs ( bits = [ 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 ] )
Also, IMO, it's a bit more readable to write:
bits = [ 0 for i in range ( 16 ) ]
Or even:
bits = [ 0
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 15:21 -0400, Michael Yanowitz wrote:
Is it possible to have a static variable in Python -
a local variable in a function that retains its value.
For example, suppose I have:
def set_bit (bit_index, bit_value):
static bits = [0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 17:58 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
On 2006-07-31 17:28:00, Cliff Wells wrote:
I assume you don't agree... :)
I certainly don't. [...]
Also, saying a few years ago I did some research in software terms is
pretty much equivalent to saying I don't know
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 14:40 -0700, northband wrote:
Just spoke with my department and looks like we still want to go with a
server scripting method. Although MVC may be better fit, for the sake
of the learning curve, we want to use a PSP style method.
I'm with the others who suggest using an
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 15:06 -0700, northband wrote:
Makes sense, I will follow your advice. Sounds like more time invest
upfront will equal time saved over the long run. I am defitely
interested in proxy caching and load balancing. Which do you
recommend? I have used #Pound while working
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 14:03 +0100, Ben Edwards wrote:
Am going through Chapter 9 - HTTP Web Services in dive into Python. It
uses the following:
data = urllib.urlopen('http://diveintomark.org/xml/atom.xml').read()
The page no longer exists, can anyone recommend an alternative page to
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 21:57 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
On 2006-07-31 18:23:17, Cliff Wells wrote:
My point is to stop FUD right at that comment. I don't doubt your
research from a few years ago, but ancient research is entirely
irrelevant for making a decision *today*.
That's
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 01:47 +, John Savage wrote:
I have a free web mail address and would like to use python to retrieve
files that have been emailed to me. The basic code would accommodate
cookies, a login name and password, then download using the full URL I
can provide. From postings
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 09:28 -0800, Ron Griswold wrote:
Hi Folks,
Can someone point me in the direction of an html library that
generates html text for you. For example, if I had a tuple of tuples,
I’d like a function that would create a table for me. I’ve looked
through the standard
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 06:55 -0700, Paul Boddie wrote:
Eric Pederson wrote:
Why is Ruby, and Ruby on Rails, getting such strong play?
Relentless hype from blogging celebrities?
This is certainly part of it, but I feel it ignores the much deeper
reasons which are the root of this hype. I
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 10:10 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The second presentation (I don't recall the speaker's name) specifically
covered metaprogramming (writing DSLs) and one of the things I found
interesting was that despite Ruby having far more syntax
On Sat, 2005-08-06 at 03:24 -0700, Kay Schluehr wrote:
No good news for scripting-language fans:
http://www.phpmag.net/itr/news/psecom,id,23284,nodeid,113.html
It didn't say what they left PHP, Perl and Python for (if you are to
even believe their findings).
PHP has been losing programmers
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 01:04 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
Right. Let's go back to the original question: What's the app I use on
Unix that acts like py2exe on Windows and py2app on Unix?
Any archiving system can be coerced into collecting all the parts
together. None of them do it automatically.
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 09:47 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 20:17 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
Um - you're not answering the question I asked. I asked What app do I
use to bundle my applications for Unix, ala py2exe (or whatever
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 09:45 +0200, Torsten Bronger wrote:
Yes, this is what I meant with legacy code. C and C++ are
actually special-purpose. They are good for controlling a computer
but not for implementing an idea. Their current vitality on almost
all software areas arise from the fact
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 20:17 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
Um - you're not answering the question I asked. I asked What app do I
use to bundle my applications for Unix, ala py2exe (or whatever it is)
for Windows? You're telling me how to install wxPython on those
platforms.
I know how to install
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 23:47 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
snip
commentary about how Paul wants to both not install *anything* and if he
does have to install something he must compile it from source because he
shouldn't have had to do it in the first place therefore he needs to
make it as difficult as
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 08:53 +0100, phil hunt wrote:
I was under the impression -- from reading this ng -- that wx was
buggy on some platforms and less portable than Tkinter. Not true?
It depends on how you define buggy and portable... also platform
is up for grabs too ;)
On the serious side,
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 12:28 +0200, Benjamin Niemann wrote:
Cliff Wells wrote:
As an aside, I will say that many SMTP servers that service home users
(i.e. Comcast, et al) limit the amount of mail that you can send within
a defined period.
Or completely block outgoing traffic on port 25
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 14:20 +0200, Marek Kubica wrote:
If you already tried GIMP on Windows, better try Inkscape on Windows.. that
piece of GTK software is really good.
I don't do any actual work under Windows any more. My Windows VMware
session is purely for testing Windows apps and websites
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 08:30 -0400, Ed Leafe wrote:
On Sunday 31 July 2005 20:09, James Stroud wrote:
No problem. But let me ask you what would *not* have disappointed you. As
others have pointed out, you didn't compile the wxWidgets part of your
wxPython install so as to include the
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 06:04 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Command 'nuisance' not recognized.
Hm, seemed to work anyway.
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On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 16:21 +0200, Daniel Dittmar wrote:
Cliff Wells wrote:
But then I'm willing to
actually work a little to get what I want. For other it seems they
won't be happy unless you drive to their house and install it for them
To be fair to those slothes: some of them want
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 02:37 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
there is a reason why Lisp is a niche language, with very little if any use
in the commercial world.
Eric Naggum?
Regards,
Cliff
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On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 13:28 -0300, Jorge Godoy wrote:
We can find several problems, almost all of them can be solved with the
admin's creativity.
import creativity
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in ?
ImportError: No module named creativity
Nope. Not included
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 10:57 -0700, Paul McNett wrote:
Terry Reedy wrote:
Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm serious here: I want to know what people consider acceptable for a
software package that relies on other packages.
To me, acceptability
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 15:26 -0400, Mark Roseman wrote:
How can I embed a browser in Tk (I mean a real browser, like Mozilla,
Safari, or even Exploder)? At all? On any platform? This has always
been the tradeoff for Tk.
Try this as one example:
http://wiki.tcl.tk/4094
Okay, I
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 13:38 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
Peter Decker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We were discussing your 'enormous pain' installing wxPython. I find it
interesting that you selectively quoted part of one line of my post,
Yes, the one line I quoted was the one that said most
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 14:13 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Still, that leaves Linux and Mac out in the cold. But I'll admit you
met my challenge. Most likely you can actually do most of the things
with Tk you can with Wx, it's simply a matter of how much
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 14:16 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It was quite clear that by saying most people he was not referring to
the set of most Python users, but rather the set of most people who
have tried wxPython.
That wasn't clear to me. If that's
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 17:54 -0400, Mark Roseman wrote:
I'll point out that this has been done (in fact, many times). For
example:
http://tkhtml.hwaci.com
(Integrating Gecko in has also been done, as a side note).
Interesting. Your later point about hard to find is certainly
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 23:49 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 14:58 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
And what do I use to bundle my application for Unix? Most of the
things I build get installed on Unix servers.
You install GUI apps on Unix
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 23:56 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
I think you have me confused with someone else. I was responding to
someone who was claiming that the lack of a standard enterprise
strength GUI toolkit was a serious problem for Python - I disagree. I
won't recap the thread, but other
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 00:18 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
Or maybe you could switch to Jython, and just use swing?
Man, c.l.py is getting *mean* ;)
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On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 20:29 -0700, James Stroud wrote:
I am going to go ahead and throw out Dabo with all of the others that claim
quick development of an application. You try them and then you get bugs,
bugs, bugs. Or they don't compile without 16000 dependencies. Forget it. My
advice is
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 00:59 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
I don't particularly like Tkinter, but it seems to me that it's pretty
much won. It seems to be installed on every desktop platform along
with Python. That means that if I want to distribute GUI apps, I'm
going to cause the least headache
On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 16:52 -0700, Bugs wrote:
Cliff Wells wrote:
But how stable is GTK on systems such as Windows and OS/X? That has
been what has kept me from using it. Most GTK apps I've used on Windows
(including the venerable GIMP) are nowhere near as stable as their Linux
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 10:01 +0200, Torsten Bronger wrote:
Hallöchen!
Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
The least headache for end users comes from properly packaging your
application. End users shouldn't need to worry about installing third
party packages (or even Python
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 04:23 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does py2exe work for all GUI libraries?
No, it's Windows-only.
However, OS'es and GUI libraries are different axes in the space of
possibilities.
I'm not sure what you mean. Whatever GUI
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