On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 13:47 -0500, Larry Bates wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I wanted to know if there's any way to create a method that takes a
> > default parameter, and that parameter's default value is the return
> > value of another method of the same class. For example:
> >
> > clas
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 07:04 -0800, massimo s. wrote:
> If by "thoroughly" you mean "it actually describes technically what it
> is and does but not how to really do things", yes, it is thoroughly
> documented.
> The examples section is a joke.
Actually I rarely use the csv module these days, but
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 09:50 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> "massimo s." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Yes, but it's natural for a spreadsheet-like thing to have organized
> > columns of data, often.
>
> Perhaps, but that's not relevant. CSV is a serialisation format for
> tabular data, and is only
On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 15:00 -0500, Frank Samuelson wrote:
> I love Python, and it is one of my 2 favorite
> languages. I would suggest that Python steal some
> aspects of the S language.
In general, I agree that Python has some antiquated concepts at its core
(statements being a major one) and th
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 04:54 +0800, JoJo wrote:
> I want to sort a dict via its key,but I have no idea on how to do it.
> Please help me,thanks.
You can't. There is, however, a recipe for an "ordered dict" on ASPN:
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/438823
> 3webXS HiSpeed
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 14:57 -0800, Robert Brewer wrote:
> 1. Expressions: pure Python lambda querying. This is perhaps the most
>appealing feature of Dejavu.
Actually I just went and looked and personally I find the documentation
the most appealing feature.
Regards,
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On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 11:37 -0800, Cliff Wells wrote:
>
> class Person: # assume this is something from the ORM
> name = "Kenny"
>
> class PersonRow ( Person ):
> pass
>
> def flatten_person ( p ):
> return "omg, you've kil
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 12:57 -0600, Chris Mellon wrote:
>
> In Python, you can do this simply by re-assigning the __class__. I'm
> not convinced that your type system makes sense, here though. Any
> reasonable ORM should be able to persist and reload an object without
> losing the type information
On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 08:41 -0600, Chris Mellon wrote:
> On 11 Jan 2007 15:01:48 +0100, Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 2007-01-11, Frederic Rentsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > If I derive a class from another one because I need a few extra
> > > features, is there a way to prom
piotr wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:42:16 -0200, Jorge Godoy wrote:
>
>> Take a look at Kid (http://www.kid-templating.org/) and Genshi
>> (http://genshi.edgewall.org/).
>
> I've already done a short look at kid, but to be honest I don't like it's
> XML/Python syntax. I strongly prefer idea fro
On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 00:26 -0800, hankhero wrote:
> The Common-Lisp object systems has all and more OO-features, some which
> you never probably have thought of before. Here's one:
> Inheritance lets you specialise a method so a rectangle and a circle
> can have a different Draw method. If you wo
On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 08:11 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Bill Atkins wrote:
> > > On the plus side, Python makes less demands on the
> > > capabilities of the editor. All you really need
> > > is block-shifting commands. Bracket matching is
> > > handy for expressions but not vital, and you
>
On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 01:28 -0800, Kay Schluehr wrote:
> Who really wants to write web apps? Web apps are just an excuse for
> Pythonistas to write web frameworks.
I've been lurking, waiting for the right moment to toss in my two cents,
and finally, and here it is.
I've been using Python heavi
On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 11:18 -0800, Aahz wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I'm with Beliavsky on this one. I can't see any particular reason to curse
> >in a forum such as c.l.py. It just coarsens the discussion with no obvious
> >positive benefit as far
On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 10:42 -0800, Paddy wrote:
> I too know your wrong Aahz. The written word is not the same as that
> spoken. People should make an effort to put across their meaning in a
> clear manner. If I were going to an interview I would be very careful
> about swearing and most likely no
On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 10:12 -0800, Carl J. Van Arsdall wrote:
> BartlebyScrivener wrote:
> > I agree. And Python is an extremely serious matter calling for decorum
> > and propriety.
> >
> Lol, is it really now? And I suppose its your definition of decorum and
> not mine right? Things like t
On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 06:49 -0800, Beliavsky wrote:
> Cliff Wells wrote:
> > The LA Times had a story that claimed that 64% of U.S. citizens use the
> > word "fuck" and that 74% of us have heard it in public (I'll assume the
> > remainder are your fellow AOL u
On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 15:47 -0800, John Machin wrote:
> Gabriel Genellina wrote:
> > At Monday 6/11/2006 20:34, Robert Kern wrote:
> >
> > >John Machin wrote:
> > > > Indeed yourself. Have you ever considered reading posts in
> > > > chronological order, or reading all posts in a thread?
> > >
> >
On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 08:10 +0200, Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
> "John Machin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 8<---
>
> > I strongly suggest that you read the docs *FIRST*, and don't "tinker"
> > at all.
> >
> This is *good* advice - its unlikely to be followed
For various sundry reasons, I find myself needing to deliver a
Windows-based Python app. I also chose Python 2.5 for this platform.
The app has several requirements, all of which are available for Python
2.5/Win32 except one: pycurl. So I decided to try building the source
but as it turns out, b
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 03:22 -0700, Cliff Wells wrote:
> They probably use signals (Twisted I'm sure does) and it's documented
> that signals don't work with threads:
>
> http://docs.python.org/lib/module-signal.html
Er, specifically, they only work with the main t
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 11:13 +0200, Tor Erik wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've developed an application were I've used Tkinter for the GUI.
> When I ran the GUI in another thread than the main, it kept locking
> up.
> I experienced similar problems with Twisted.
>
> Both of these tools are event-based, so I g
On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 19:28 +0200, Irmen de Jong wrote:
> Cliff Wells wrote:
> > I'm currently using Frog, and it's decent, but lacks some fundamental
> > features (tags for one). Since Irmen is probably going to scrap it
> > anyway, I'm kind of fishing about
On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 10:30 +0200, Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
> > One place where I would use such a feature is in a unittest
> > package. I think being able to write self.assert or self.raise
> > looks better than having to append an underscore.
>
> patch here:
>
> http://ma
On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 08:22 -0700, Fuzzyman wrote:
> Cliff Wells wrote:
> > On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 00:29 -0700, Cliff Wells wrote:
> >
> > > Anyone aware of any functional (doesn't need to be complete, beta is
> > > fine) blog software written in Python?
>
On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 00:29 -0700, Cliff Wells wrote:
> Anyone aware of any functional (doesn't need to be complete, beta is
> fine) blog software written in Python?
Hmph. And as soon as I hit send I find
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonBlogSoftware
Okay, so is there any *n
There's been a lot of blogs started in Python, but given the recent
spate of web frameworks, I'm surprised that some blogging package hasn't
taken front seat yet.
I'm currently using Frog, and it's decent, but lacks some fundamental
features (tags for one). Since Irmen is probably going to scrap
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 18:05 -0700, Robert Hicks wrote:
> metaperl wrote:
> > Istvan Albert wrote:
> > > metaperl wrote:
> > > > --> python -i
> > > > >>> class = "algebra"
> > > > File "", line 1
> > > > class = "algebra"
> > > > ^
> > > > SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> > >
> > > De
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 12:29 -0700, Kay Schluehr wrote:
> Just one stupid remark since the limits of my language are the limits
> of my world: I've not the slightest association with the seemingly
> nonsense word "buzhug" and don't even know how to pronounce it
> correctly. Would you have the kindn
On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 13:23 +, David Isaac wrote:
> I have no experience with database applications.
> This database will likely hold only a few hundred items,
> including both textfiles and binary files.
>
> I would like a pure Python solution to the extent reasonable.
Since no one's mention
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 13:01 +0200, Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> Mike Owens wrote:
>
> > Crackpot? And now we get to why I took the flamebait -- wonderfully
> > constructive comments such as this.
> >
> > I know SQLite's author. Besides being a nice and clearly very
> > intelligent person, he also holds
On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 21:30 -0700, sridhar wrote:
> is there any way to call stored procedures from python as in java?
I mostly use PostgreSQL, so perhaps it's different for some other
databases, but calling stored procedures doesn't require any special
support from the language or driver. Usuall
On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 09:04 -0700, Paul Boddie wrote:
> SkunkWeb (3.4.0), Zope (2.9.4 and 3.2.1), Plone (2.5), Karrigell (2.3),
> CherryPy (2.2.1), Spyce (2.1), QP (1.8), Cymbeline (1.3.1), Django
> (0.95), Webware (0.9.1), Pylons (0.9.1), TurboGears (0.8.9), PyLucid
> (v0.7.0RC4), Paste (0.4.1),
On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 23:31 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote:
> On 8/31/06, Jorge Vargas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 31 Aug 2006 08:24:29 -0700, Adam Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Someone ones said on the mailing list TG is the Ubuntu of web
> > frameworks, and I think I'll add and you
On Sun, 2006-08-27 at 07:51 -0700, Amir Michail wrote:
> How often do you need to open a file multiple times for writing?
How often do you write code that you don't understand well enough to
fix? This issue is clearly a problem within *your* application.
I'm curious how you could possibly think
On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 18:54 +, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> Normally, Python compares the date stamps of the files (and maybe
> some internal magic values) and only rebuilds the .pyc if the .py is
> newer.
Perhaps the OP should check both the system date on his PC and the
timestamp on the
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 08:19 -0700, gene tani wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I have an idea for a project which involves an editor that supports
> > syntax highlighting. This would be for any language, particularly php,
> > html, css, etc. I would like to write this program using
On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 04:28 -0700, Paul Boddie wrote:
> Cliff Wells wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 04:04 +, Tim Roberts wrote:
> > > Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >But there are interesting things in Ruby (and Ruby 2 s
On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 04:04 +, Tim Roberts wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >But there are interesting things in Ruby (and Ruby 2 should take care of
> >lots of warts Ruby 1.8 has) that Python could learn from. All-in-all,
> >Ruby is most
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 22:13 +0200, Peter Maas wrote:
> Alex Martelli wrote:
> > Indeed, it has been truthfully observed that Python's the only language
> > with more web frameworks than keywords.
> >
> > I have already suggested to the BDFL that he can remedy this situation
> > in Py3k: all he has
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 02:28 -0700, Paul Boddie wrote:
> Cliff Wells wrote:
> > No, the reason Rails is successful is due to being a decent, focused
> > product with *great* marketing (screencasts, anyone?).
>
> Screencasts? Perhaps, like a great showman, they draw in the
On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 21:07 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> b = [2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12]
>>> a = [0, 1, 0, 1, 1, 0]
>>> b = [2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12]
>>> [ j for i, j in zip ( a, b ) if i ]
[4, 8, 10]
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On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 08:15 +, Tim Roberts wrote:
> Ordinarily, I think the "do it yourself" nature of Python is a great thing,
> and I would never try to dissuade someone from reinventing something
> themselves. However, in the case of web frameworks, I believe Marc is
> fundamentally correc
On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 16:10 +0800, limodou wrote:
> On 8/15/06, Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 16:02 +0800, limodou wrote:
> > > On 8/15/06, Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Thanks for the response. Must
On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 00:56 -0700, Cliff Wells wrote:
Ah, I got it. From the docs:
(Auto-enumerated lists are new in Docutils 0.3.8.)
and I've got 0.3.7
Damn. Thanks for the responses.
Regards,
Cliff
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On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 16:02 +0800, limodou wrote:
> On 8/15/06, Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks for the response. Must be a bug in my version:
>
> Which version of docutils you are using, in my computer is good.
>
> u'\nthis is a test\nthis is
&
On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 09:35 +0200, Sybren Stuvel wrote:
> Cliff Wells enlightened us with:
> > Why doesn't the above turn out an enumerated list?
>
> You have to indent the list:
>
> >>> from docutils.core import publish_parts
> >>> t = '
Started playing with docutils and don't understand why the following
doesn't work:
>>> from docutils.core import publish_parts
>>> t = '''
...
... 1. this is a test
... #. this is another line
... #. oh, screw it!
...
... '''
>>> publish_parts ( t, writer_name = 'html' ) [ 'body' ]
u'1. this is a
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 09:49 +0200, Sybren Stuvel wrote:
> Cliff Wells enlightened us with:
> > 1) PostgreSQL fans are perhaps a bit paranoid about claims of MySQL
> > being better. There used to be a tiny bit of truth in this claim
> > for certain applications (mostly relati
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 15:51 +0200, paul kölle wrote:
> Cliff Wells wrote:
>
> > For myself, I handle user-installation of TurboGears pretty much like I
> > do all user-installed Python packages: using setuptools. Any user who
> > uses easy_install or 'python setup.py
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 23:13 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
> Thanks, that's one of the conclusions to which I also came. That final
> question was missing, even though I felt it was implied. I really had no
> clue that this is such a touchy subject.
Every opinion in technology seems to be touchy
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 10:46 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
> On 2006-08-02 00:51:28, Conrad wrote:
>
> > Which begins "A few years ago"
>
> Exactly. Isn't this a good start for honesty? It doesn't claim to state
> anything up to date.
>
> It continues "I did some research", "some" being a very c
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 23:26 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
> Or is there something in PostgreSQL that makes its users acidic? :)
Well, ACID is popular in PostgreSQL circles.
Cliff
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On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 07:37 -0400, Michael Yanowitz wrote:
> # * class BitsClass *
> class BitsClass (object):
> def __init__(self, num_bits):
> self.bits=[]
> for i in range(num_bits):
> self.bits.append(0)
> de
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 06:38 -0700, Luis M. González wrote:
> Well... yes, you're right.
> I guess that the reason for not having used a framework already is
> laziness...
Trust me, I'm quite familiar with the laziness problem =)
> I have experience with Karrigell, which rocks too, but it lacks s
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 10:41 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
> On 2006-08-01 04:11:18, Cliff Wells wrote:
>
> > You say that you haven't tried Django or any other Python framework.
> > Perhaps you should. You seem to have at least the start of the right
> > idea about
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 22:25 -0700, Luis M. González wrote:
> I don't have experience with Django or any other python framework, but
> I have used bare-bones mod_python and it rocks.
> I wouldn't use PSP though...
> It is not very polished, and they way it handles the "indentation
> problem" in pyth
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 01:47 +, John Savage wrote:
> I have a free web mail address and would like to use python to retrieve
> files that have been emailed to me. The basic code would accommodate
> cookies, a login name and password, then download using the full URL I
> can provide. From posting
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 21:57 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
> On 2006-07-31 18:23:17, Cliff Wells wrote:
>
> > My point is to stop FUD right at that comment. I don't doubt your
> > research from "a few years ago", but ancient research is entirely
> >
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 14:03 +0100, Ben Edwards wrote:
> Am going through Chapter 9 - HTTP Web Services in dive into Python. It
> uses the following:
>
> data = urllib.urlopen('http://diveintomark.org/xml/atom.xml').read()
>
> The page no longer exists, can anyone recommend an alternative page to
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 15:06 -0700, northband wrote:
> Makes sense, I will follow your advice. Sounds like more time invest
> upfront will equal time saved over the long run. I am defitely
> interested in proxy caching and load balancing. Which do you
> recommend? I have used #Pound while workin
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 14:40 -0700, northband wrote:
> Just spoke with my department and looks like we still want to go with a
> server scripting method. Although MVC may be better fit, for the sake
> of the learning curve, we want to use a PSP style method.
I'm with the others who suggest using a
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 17:58 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
> On 2006-07-31 17:28:00, Cliff Wells wrote:
>
> >> I assume you don't agree... :)
> >
> > I certainly don't. [...]
>
> > Also, saying "a few years ago I did some research" in s
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 15:21 -0400, Michael Yanowitz wrote:
> Is it possible to have a static variable in Python -
> a local variable in a function that retains its value.
>
> For example, suppose I have:
>
> def set_bit (bit_index, bit_value):
>static bits = [0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 13:37 -0700, Cliff Wells wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 13:02 -0700, Cliff Wells wrote:
>
>
> > @attrs ( bits = [ 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 ] )
>
> Also, IMO, it's a bit more readable to write:
>
> bits = [ 0 for i i
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 13:02 -0700, Cliff Wells wrote:
> @attrs ( bits = [ 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 ] )
Also, IMO, it's a bit more readable to write:
bits = [ 0 for i in range ( 16 ) ]
which avoids the necessity of counting the zeros to know how many there
are.
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 15:21 -0400, Michael Yanowitz wrote:
> Is it possible to have a static variable in Python -
> a local variable in a function that retains its value.
>
> For example, suppose I have:
>
> def set_bit (bit_index, bit_value):
>static bits = [0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 17:12 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
> On 2006-07-31 15:00:15, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
>
> > In fact, the real question IMHO is: what would MySQL advantage over
> > PostgreSQL be ?-)
>
> A few years ago I did some research, and the result was that while
> PostgreSQL was c
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 09:28 -0800, Ron Griswold wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
>
>
> Can someone point me in the direction of an html library that
> generates html text for you. For example, if I had a tuple of tuples,
> I’d like a function that would create a table for me. I’ve looked
> through the stan
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 10:10 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The second presentation (I don't recall the speaker's name) specifically
> > covered metaprogramming (writing DSLs) and one of the things I found
> > interesting
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 06:55 -0700, Paul Boddie wrote:
> Eric Pederson wrote:
> > Why is Ruby, and Ruby on Rails, getting such strong play?
>
> Relentless hype from blogging celebrities?
This is certainly part of it, but I feel it ignores the much deeper
reasons which are the root of this hype. I
On Sat, 2005-08-06 at 03:24 -0700, Kay Schluehr wrote:
> No good news for scripting-language fans:
>
> http://www.phpmag.net/itr/news/psecom,id,23284,nodeid,113.html
It didn't say what they left PHP, Perl and Python for (if you are to
even believe their findings).
PHP has been losing programmers
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 01:04 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
> Right. Let's go back to the original question: What's the app I use on
> Unix that acts like py2exe on Windows and py2app on Unix?
>
> Any archiving system can be coerced into collecting all the parts
> together. None of them do it automatica
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 09:47 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 20:17 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
> >
> >> Um - you're not answering the question I asked. I asked "What app do I
> >> us
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 20:17 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
> Um - you're not answering the question I asked. I asked "What app do I
> use to bundle my applications for Unix, ala py2exe (or whatever it is)
> for Windows?" You're telling me how to install wxPython on those
> platforms.
> I know how to ins
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 09:45 +0200, Torsten Bronger wrote:
> Yes, this is what I meant with "legacy code". C and C++ are
> actually special-purpose. They are good for controlling a computer
> but not for implementing an idea. Their current vitality on almost
> all software areas arise from the f
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 00:18 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
> Or maybe you could switch to Jython, and just use swing?
Man, c.l.py is getting *mean* ;)
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On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 23:56 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
> I think you have me confused with someone else. I was responding to
> someone who was claiming that the lack of a standard enterprise
> strength GUI toolkit was a serious problem for Python - I disagree. I
> won't recap the thread, but other l
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 23:49 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 14:58 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
> >> And what do I use to bundle my application for Unix? Most of the
> >> things I build get installed
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 17:54 -0400, Mark Roseman wrote:
>
> I'll point out that this has been done (in fact, many times). For
> example:
> http://tkhtml.hwaci.com
>
> (Integrating Gecko in has also been done, as a side note).
Interesting. Your later point about hard to find is certainly
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 14:16 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > It was quite clear that by saying "most people" he was not referring to
> > the set of "most Python users", but rather the set of "most people who
>
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 14:13 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Still, that leaves Linux and Mac out in the cold. But I'll admit you
> > met my challenge. Most likely you can actually do most of the things
> > with Tk you can
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 13:38 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Peter Decker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > We were discussing your 'enormous pain' installing wxPython. I find it
> > interesting that you selectively quoted part of one line of my post,
>
> Yes, the one line I quoted was the one that said m
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 15:26 -0400, Mark Roseman wrote:
> > How can I embed a browser in Tk (I mean a real browser, like Mozilla,
> > Safari, or even Exploder)? At all? On any platform? This has always
> > been the tradeoff for Tk.
>
> Try this as one example:
> http://wiki.tcl.tk/4094
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 10:57 -0700, Paul McNett wrote:
> Terry Reedy wrote:
> > "Ed Leafe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >>I'm serious here: I want to know what people consider acceptable for a
> >>software package that relies on other packages.
>
> > To me,
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 13:28 -0300, Jorge Godoy wrote:
>
> We can find several problems, almost all of them can be solved with the
> admin's creativity.
>>> import creativity
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in ?
ImportError: No module named creativity
>>>
Nope. Not includ
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 02:37 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> there is a reason why Lisp is a niche language, with very little if any use
> in the commercial world.
Eric Naggum?
Regards,
Cliff
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On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 16:21 +0200, Daniel Dittmar wrote:
> Cliff Wells wrote:
> > But then I'm willing to
> > actually work a little to get what I want. For other it seems they
> > won't be happy unless you drive to their house and install it for them
>
>
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 06:04 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Command 'nuisance' not recognized.
Hm, seemed to work anyway.
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On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 08:30 -0400, Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Sunday 31 July 2005 20:09, James Stroud wrote:
> No problem. But let me ask you what would *not* have disappointed you. As
> others have pointed out, you didn't compile the wxWidgets part of your
> wxPython install so as to include the sty
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 14:20 +0200, Marek Kubica wrote:
> If you already tried GIMP on Windows, better try Inkscape on Windows.. that
> piece of GTK software is really good.
I don't do any actual work under Windows any more. My Windows VMware
session is purely for testing Windows apps and website
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 12:28 +0200, Benjamin Niemann wrote:
> Cliff Wells wrote:
> > As an aside, I will say that many SMTP servers that service home users
> > (i.e. Comcast, et al) limit the amount of mail that you can send within
> > a defined period.
>
> Or completel
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 08:53 +0100, phil hunt wrote:
> I was under the impression -- from reading this ng -- that wx was
> buggy on some platforms and less portable than Tkinter. Not true?
It depends on how you define "buggy" and "portable"... also "platform"
is up for grabs too ;)
On the seriou
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 23:47 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
commentary about how Paul wants to both not install *anything* and if he
does have to install something he must compile it from source because he
shouldn't have had to do it in the first place therefore he needs to
make it as difficult as poss
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 17:45 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > The usual way to do that is with a web GUI, but nothing stops you from
> > > running Tkinter on a Unix server through a remote X connection.
> >
> > Of cour
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 16:38 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The bottom line is this: some people like Tk, some wxPython. Each has
> > advantages and disadvantages. But to claim that you *can only* do
> > something in one or the o
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 17:16 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > It did last time I tried installing it, which was maybe 3-6 months ago.
> > > Someone posted that it had been updated recently.
> >
> > Looking on SourceFo
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 16:57 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > And what do I use to bundle my application for Unix? Most of the
> > > things I build get installed on Unix servers.
> >
> > You install GUI apps on Unix *se
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 16:22 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > wxWidgets/wxPython hasn't required GTK 1.x in quite a long time. Please
> > get your facts straight.
>
> It did last time I tried installing it, which was maybe
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 16:23 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I can't really understand your hostility towards non-Tkinter
> > toolkits. In the case of wxPython, it's part of SUSE, which is
> > probably also true for Fedora and Mandriva. Installing is as e
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