Re: How do you debug in Python? Coming from a Matlab and R user. I'm already aware of pdb.

2021-01-26 Thread Ed Leafe
into ipython if I need to run some quick code. For me, this is much faster than trying to write an additional program that is close enough to the problem code to be useful. -- Ed Leafe -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Request help w/pip install jq

2020-07-19 Thread Ed Walser
d not build wheels for jq which use PEP 517 and cannot be installed directly -- Ed Walser e...@walseranalyticsconsulting.com 571.364.9618 -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What user-defined request error levels are recommended?

2020-04-30 Thread Ed Leafe via Python-list
error, you could use a 4xx code. However, I would prefer to use the standard codes, and add a custom header with more information on the issue. -- Ed Leafe -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How to force "python -m site" ENABLE_USER_SITE to false?

2019-06-21 Thread Ed Leafe
Python ... or via a command line option > when starting a Python session? >From StackOverflow: >https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25584276/how-to-disable-site-enable-user-site-for-an-environment -- Ed Leafe -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

2018-07-15 Thread Ed Kellett
On 2018-07-15 15:52, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 14:17:51 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > >> Steven D'Aprano : >> >>> On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 11:43:14 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: Paul Rubin : > I don't think Go is the answer either, but it probably got strings > right. W

Re: variable scope in try ... EXCEPT block.

2018-07-13 Thread Ed Kellett
On 2018-07-12 18:00, Chris Angelico wrote: > What do you mean by "fix"? Make the 'x' bind eagerly? That would break > basically every other use of closures. No. I mean make each x a new variable--closures would work as before, for-loops would change. If we have subscopes, it seems natural that ent

Re: variable scope in try ... EXCEPT block.

2018-07-12 Thread Ed Kellett
k subscoping is way more applicable: at least to me, it'd make all code more readable by default, because it'd tend to make namespaces emptier and therefore easier to hold in memory. Could we fix: for x in something: blah(lambda a: a + x) while we're at it? Also, since

Re: variable scope in try ... EXCEPT block.

2018-07-12 Thread Ed Kellett
nce counting, general garbage collection, *and* nasty hacks like this, one could be forgiven for thinking Python has chosen the worst of all memory-management worlds. That said, in this case it's entirely livable-with once one knows about it. Unrelatedly, having stared at this email for

Re: Static variables [was Re: syntax difference]

2018-06-24 Thread Ed Kellett
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Re: Static variables [was Re: syntax difference]

2018-06-23 Thread Ed Kellett
On 2018-06-23 06:21, Chris Angelico wrote: > Let's start finding all the edge cases that don't work, so I can work > on fixing them :) Very long functions (or, more specifically, functions with a very large number of consts) will likely prove annoying. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: syntax difference

2018-06-19 Thread Ed Kellett
On 2018-06-19 11:21, Chris Angelico wrote: > Isn't it nice how comments, being terminated exclusively by > end-of-line, allow the introduction of subtle bugs? Let's see how many > people spot the (presumably deliberate) bug in Steve's code here. Hardly subtle. It does also make them considerably

Re: syntax difference

2018-06-18 Thread Ed Kellett
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Re: syntax difference

2018-06-18 Thread Ed Kellett
On 2018-06-18 13:18, Chris Angelico wrote: > 1) Parse the code, keeping all the non-essential parts as well as the > essential parts. > 2) Find the comments, or find the annotations > 3) If comments, figure out if they're the ones you want to remove. > 4) Reconstruct the file without the bits you w

Re: Does inspect.getstack work on other Python implementations?

2018-06-17 Thread Ed Kellett
On 2018-06-17 10:19, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Anyone here use IronPython, Jython or PyPy? > > Does inspect.getstack always work? Is it considered an implementation > detail for CPython or something promised to work on any compliant > Python interpreter? > > I see that it doesn't even exist on Jyt

Re: Splitting up large python module impact on performance?

2018-06-13 Thread Ed Kellett
On 2018-06-13 05:24, Chris Angelico wrote: > Oh wait, your code isn't anything remotely sane. But for the rest of > us, large files aren't a problem. I don't like large files--I think mostly because files are an organisational tool, they're quite good at that job, and one might as well use them. B

Re: Why exception from os.path.exists()?

2018-06-09 Thread Ed Kellett
On 2018-06-08 03:42, Chris Angelico wrote: > Apart from the one odd bug with SimpleHTTPServer not properly sending > back 500s, I very much doubt that the original concern - namely that > os.path.exists() and os.stat() raise ValueError if therels a %00 in > the URL - can be abused effectively. Dism

Re: Python web server weirdness

2018-06-07 Thread Ed Kellett
On 2018-06-07 14:32, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I'm following the instructions here: > > https://docs.python.org/3/library/http.server.html > > > and running this from the command line as a regular unprivileged user: > > python3.5 -m http.server 8000 > > What I expected was a directory listing o

I need help with this python regex

2018-04-27 Thread Ed Manning
Here is the source code. import re log = open("csg.txt", "r") # Opens a file call session.txt regex = re.compile(r'policy id \d+') # search for the policy ID regex1 = re.compile(r'log count \d+') # search for the policy ID for match in log: x = regex.findall(match) y = regex1.findall(m

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2014-11-17 Thread ed
Hey all, Wanted to let you know about a special opportunity for subscribers to this list.. I'm hosting a virtual conference called hack.summit() happening December 1-4, where you can learn from some of the best programmers in the world. An unprecedented line-up of programmers are speaking, in

Python code to distinguish between data having, 2 different formats, in a given cell(MS Excel).

2014-08-23 Thread Ed Joz
I got an excel sheet having,2 blocks of data in 2 different formats, in any given cell. Lets take cell A1 for example, 1st block has font = Arial, character size =10 2nd block has font = Times New Roman, character size = 16 OR **no data** sample: "abcd123 PQRS456" A python code need to be dev

[Announce] Python-Future v0.13; cheatsheet for Python 2/3 compatible code

2014-08-12 Thread Ed Schofield
sheet page when they are online. I would be happy to accept pull requests for additions or changes to the Py2/3 cheat-sheet. The source is here: https://github.com/PythonCharmers/python-future/blob/master/docs/notebooks/Writing%20Python%202-3%20compatible%20code.ipynb Best wishes, Ed --

Save/restore breakpoints between pdb runs

2014-07-11 Thread Ed Blackman
27; cond = '' if bp.cond is None else ', ' + bp.cond print("%s %s:%d%s" % (command, bp.file, bp.line, cond)) if not bp.enabled: print("disable %d" % (bp_num)) if bp.ignore > 0: print("ignore %d %d" % (bp_num, bp.ignore)) print('') -- Ed Blackman -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Can Python do this? First steps, links to resources or complete software referals appreciated.

2014-05-22 Thread ed . cottam
does this already? Preferably open source? If not, any resources you could bring to my attention? I' a complete Newb! Thanks for your help. Ed -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Question about import hooks

2013-11-23 Thread Ed Schofield
clean interface? Preferably this would remain accessible through a one-line import like ``from future import standard_library``. Thanks in advance for any ideas! Best wishes, Ed -- Dr. Edward Schofield (M) +61 (0)405 676 229 Python Charmers http://pythoncharmers.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

How can I get the variable to subtract the input please?

2013-11-18 Thread Ed Taylor
This will be very simple to most of you I guess but it's killing me! print ("Please type in your age") age = input () leave = 16 print ("You have" + leave - age + "years left at school") I want to have an input where the users age is inserted and then subtracted from the variable age which is s

Re: PEP8 79 char max

2013-07-29 Thread Ed Leafe
d back because I found I lost productivity switching from vim to a graphical text editor. -- Ed Leafe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PEP8 79 char max

2013-07-29 Thread Ed Leafe
aracter limit, and as a result become much less readable. -- Ed Leafe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: IDE for GUI Designer

2013-04-04 Thread Ed Leafe
ike so: I want a button, I click and drag it to a window, > give two clicks and encode their actions, understand? Check out Dabo: http://dabodev.com -- Ed Leafe (one of the authors) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: send email with bcc

2012-11-30 Thread Ed
ou both for the quick responses!! ~Ed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

send email with bcc

2012-11-30 Thread Ed
CC recipients, but not the BCC. Any help is very much appreciated. Thx, Ed . from email.mime.text import MIMEText from email.mime.image import MIMEImage from email.mime.application import MIMEApplication from email.mime.multipart import MIMEMultipart from smtplib import SMTP to = '

Re: Quickie - Regexp for a string not at the beginning of the line

2012-10-26 Thread Ed Morton
pecific, you still can't say "here's an RE that does this", you've got to say "here's how to find this text using tool ". Ed. I guess, this requires the ability to ignore the CARAT as the beginning of the line. I am a satisfied custormer. No need for

Re: Quickie - Regexp for a string not at the beginning of the line

2012-10-25 Thread Ed Morton
f producing the same output, but that's not the question you're asking. Ed. I want to search and modify. I dont wanna be tied to a specific language etc so I just want a regexp and as many versions as possible. Maybe I should try in emacs and so I am now posting to emacs groups also

Re: dbf.py API question

2012-08-07 Thread Ed Leafe
ting from paradigms in other languages, I've often been tempted to follow the accepted pattern for that language, and I've almost always regretted it. When in doubt, make it as Pythonic as possible. -- Ed Leafe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Foxpro goto command and deleted records

2012-07-18 Thread Ed Leafe
ythonic as >> possible. >> > I disagree. I think that if you can see it should be able to go to it. The use case was a deleted record with SET DELETED ON, which means you shouldn't "see" it. -- Ed Leafe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Foxpro goto command and deleted records

2012-07-18 Thread Ed Leafe
s that with my dbf module it is > possible to create an index that does /not/ include certain records: Deleting a record in VFP doesn't remove it from the index; I believe it marks that index entry as deleted, too. I think that as long as you treat the deleted status as th

Re: Foxpro goto command and deleted records

2012-07-18 Thread Ed Leafe
ired up VFP, but the above doesn't sound correct. If you have SET DELETED OFF and the GOTO 7, the pointer should move to the 7th record, whether it is marked deleted or not. With SET DELETED ON, the pointer should not move, since 7 is not a valid record. -- Ed Leafe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

RE: Framework for a beginner

2012-04-11 Thread Ed W LaHay
You may want to look at udacity.com CS101. This is a free web based training program. CS101 introduces Python the next sessions starts the week of April 16. During the 7 weeks of sessions you will build a web browser. Ed W LaHay +1 925 429 1958 -Original Message- From: python-list

Re: Dabo 0.9.4 Released!

2011-10-07 Thread Ed Leafe
d toward database applications, although a database connection is completely optional. We wrap the wxPython GUI toolkit, hiding its C++ roots and presenting a more Pythonic interface for creating your UI. See more at http://dabodev.com, and feel free to ask any more questions. --

Dabo 0.9.4 Released!

2011-10-06 Thread Ed Leafe
bizobjs for many-to-many relationships - improved efficiency in detecting changed records - added the dDatePicker control - added the option of vertical text for grid headers - integrated a code editor into the command window You can grab the latest version, as always, from http://dabo

Re: Hello, and request for help with 'dynamic grids'

2011-10-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 5, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Simon Cropper wrote: > Dabo is a great product. Spoke extensively with Ed Leafe and Paul McNett. > Unfortunately the framework is not 'dynamic'. If you have an fixed database > and tables it can quite quickly create a basic data entry setup and m

Re: PEP 8 and extraneous whitespace

2011-07-21 Thread Ed Leafe
width because of vim. It doesn't take as long to get used to as you might think. -- Ed Sent from my iPhone, so please excuse any top-posting. On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:12 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > There are very few things I am absolutely religious about, but > programming in a fixed wi

Re: Kind of OT - Books on software development?

2011-05-25 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Wed, 5/25/11, Ed Keith wrote: > I do not have my library with me, but > I remember a book that fits the bill exactly, is was from > Microsoft Press, I think it was called "Writing Solid Code" I have done some research at amazon.com, and while "Writing Solid Cod

Re: Kind of OT - Books on software development?

2011-05-25 Thread Ed Keith
I do not have my library with me, but I remember a book that fits the bill exactly, is was from Microsoft Press, I think it was called "Writing Solid Code" Hope this helps, -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com --- On Wed, 5/25/11, Matty Sarro wrote: >

Re: Abandoning Python

2011-05-22 Thread Ed Keith
Have you looked at Falcon (http://www.falconpl.org/)? It seems to have a lot of what you are looking for. I do not have much experience with it but I like what I've seen so far, except that there are not any third party tools or libraries libraries. Which is where Python shines. -Ed

Short circuting

2011-01-21 Thread Ed Connell
of results can be much longer.) I can think of alternatives (raising exceptions), but they all use deep indenting. Ideas? Ed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Modifying an existing excel spreadsheet

2010-12-20 Thread Ed Keith
py it to a new spreadsheet and write the new spreadsheet, but I can't seem to copy the images, and it looks like copying the formatting is going to be difficult. Can anyone give me any tips or advice? Thanks in advance,    -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com

Re: Style question for conditional execution

2010-11-24 Thread Ed Leafe
derstandable; the second only if you are familiar with that particular programming construct. Explicit is better than implicit, so I'd go with the first form. -- Ed Leafe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Generating PDF file in Python

2010-10-26 Thread Ed Keith
? Are there other options I have overlooked? -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Debugger - fails to "continue" with breakpoint set

2010-09-15 Thread Ed Greenberg
On 09/15/2010 02:04 PM, Thomas Jollans wrote: On Wednesday 15 September 2010, it occurred to Ed Greenberg to exclaim: I'm pretty new to Python, but I am really enjoying it as an alternative to Perl and PHP. When I run the debugger [import pdb; pdb.set_trace()] and then do next and

Debugger - fails to "continue" with breakpoint set

2010-09-15 Thread Ed Greenberg
le and consistent. I see this in python 2.6.4 on Ubuntu 9.10 and also in 2.5.2 on Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy), both using the installed packages. I must be missing something. Assistance will be welcome. Thanks, Ed Greenberg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: WMI in Python

2010-09-13 Thread Ed Leafe
We have hundreds of developers around the world using Dabo to build many different kinds of business applications. -- Ed Leafe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

ANN: Dabo 0.9.3 released

2010-09-13 Thread Ed Leafe
Dabo encryption - changed all pathing to be relative to the app's HomeDirectory - full parameterization of SQL calls - addition of the dRichTextBox control - improvement of unicode support with the dabo.lib.ustr() method You can grab the latest version, as always, from http://dabodev.com/do

Re: Static typing, Python, D, DbC

2010-09-12 Thread Ed Keith
; the term is that it's a static verification technique, > marketing-speak > annotating subroutines with pre- and post- conditions that > can be > checked with Hoare logic.  Runtime checks wouldn't > qualify as that. Eiffel throws an exception when a contract is violated.

Re: combined functionality of ipython's %whos and pdb's next (without a resource heavy IDE)

2010-07-30 Thread Ed Leafe
IDE. > > I am not seeing how this might be done. Many thanks for your help... Check out PuDB - I use it all the time. http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pudb Intro screencast is at http://vimeo.com/5255125 -- Ed Leafe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Help choosing license for new projects

2010-07-13 Thread Ed Keith
has always bothered me because relinking without recompiling (even when dynamic linking) in C/C++ is a good way to crash a program. But this should not be a problem with Python. >   MIT license This one is good. >   Mozilla Public license 1.1 I avoid this one. >   New BSD Licens

Re: python instructor

2010-07-09 Thread Ed Keith
Where are you located? -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com --- On Fri, 7/9/10, Greg wrote: > From: Greg > Subject: python instructor > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 10:09 AM > We're looking for a first-rate python >

Re: Download Microsoft C/C++ compiler for use with Python 2.6/2.7 ASAP

2010-07-06 Thread Ed Keith
I downloaded the ISO, but it seems to be just a bit too big to fit on a CD! This seems odd to me, has anyone else had this problem? -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com --- On Tue, 7/6/10, sturlamolden wrote: > From: sturlamolden > Subject: Download Microso

Re: python app development

2010-07-06 Thread Ed Leafe
dev.com/pycon_tutorial If you have any other questions, join our email discussion list and post them there. There are many helpful people there to answer your questions. http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/dabo-users -- Ed Leafe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Should I Learn Python or Ruby next?

2010-06-23 Thread Ed Keith
       Dennis Lee > Bieber         AF6VN >         wlfr...@ix.netcom.com  >   HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/ > > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > Try J. It does not require a special keyboard. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Should I Learn Python or Ruby next?

2010-06-23 Thread Ed Keith
; -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > I agree you should learn a DIFFERENT programming language. Perl, Python, & Ruby are all quite similar. If you want to expand your horizons, learn one of the following: Forth -lots of fun. Assembler - give you a m

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Ed Keith
Nice! I've been looking for that trick for some time. Thank you, -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com --- On Mon, 6/14/10, AD. wrote: > From: AD. > Subject: Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 8:

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Ed Keith
>     } > > > > /> > /> > > > > > -- > Cheers > Anton > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > But that is in a fixed size field, can you make the height change based on the height of the browser window, and still keep it centered? -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-18 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/18/10, Robert Kern wrote: > From: Robert Kern > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 12:03 PM > On 2010-05-16 09:25 , Ed Keith > wrote: > > > > --- On Sat, 5/15/10, Lawrence D'Oliveir

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-18 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 11:09 PM > In message , > Ed Keith > wrote: > > > But if my client give someone

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-18 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Duncan Booth wrote: > From: Duncan Booth > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 8:52 AM > Ed Keith > wrote: > > > I can not imagine anyone being stupid enough to pay me > for rights

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-18 Thread Ed Keith
—Andy Rooney, _Boston | > _o__)              >                 >                 >   Globe_ 1982-05-30 | > Ben Finney > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > Why don't your own customers under cut you? If you sell someone GPLed software they have t

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-16 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 11:06 PM > In message , > Ed Keith > wrote: > > > On Fri, 5/14/10, Lawrence D

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-16 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Robert Kern wrote: > From: Robert Kern > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 1:10 PM > On 2010-05-14 21:37 , Steven D'Aprano > wrote: > > On Fri, 14 May 2010 06:42:31 -0700, Ed Keith wrote

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-15 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Thu, 5/13/10, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > From: Steven D'Aprano > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 7:41 PM > On Thu, 13 May 2010 06:24:04 -0700, > Ed Keith wrote: > > > --- On Thu, 5/13

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-15 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Fri, 5/14/10, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > From: Steven D'Aprano > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 10:59 PM > On Fri, 14 May 2010 06:39:05 -0700, > Ed Keith wrote: > > > Yes, under the GPL every

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Fri, 5/14/10, Paul Boddie wrote: > From: Paul Boddie > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 8:12 PM > On 14 Mai, 21:18, Ed Keith > wrote: > > > > The GPL is fine when all parties concern understand >

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Fri, 5/14/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 10:07 PM > In message , > Ed Keith > wrote: > > > That is one good reason for choo

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Fri, 5/14/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 9:58 PM > In message , > Ed Keith > wrote: > > > Yes, under the GPL every one has

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
a GPLed version of Python, I think the license is permissive enough to allow that. If you did, do you think more people would use the GPLed version? Personally, I would use the version with the more permissive license, unless the GPLed version offered a significant advantage of some kind. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
disk. And if he give his friend the binary disk, but not the source disk (which is of no value to him or his friend), then he is in violation of the law, and he cannot even understand why. The GPL is fine when all parties concern understand what source code is and what to do with it. But when

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
e license. When I deliver my code to the client they are always free to do whatever they want with it. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
by the GPL are a strict subset of the right granted by the Boost license. So your argument does not work. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
PL today, I can change my mind and release the same code under the Boost license tomorrow. But if I release it with the Boost license, while technically I can release it with the GPL tomorrow, in practice everyone will use the previously released Boost licensed version. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
of Boost I would not have had this problem? I use the Boost Libraries (http://www.boost.org/) in most of my code. Do you believe they are likely to disappear because they are not covered by the GPL? -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
How exactly does the LGPL lead to a requirement to > “relink”? > > I think this might be a misconception, but I'm not 100% > sure.  Since > Ed gives his customers full source code, there may not be > the > requirement to directly provide the ability to relink, > because &qu

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
. Any MIT licensed code that I may have used is still in the common. My using it did not reomove it from the common. Has the fact that Python has been used for many commercial/propitiatory projects reduced your ability to make use of it? If so how? -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Thu, 5/13/10, Patrick Maupin wrote: > From: Patrick Maupin > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 11:45 PM > On May 13, 10:06 pm, Lawrence > D'Oliveiro central.gen.new_zealand> wrote: > > I

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Thu, 5/13/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 11:07 PM > In message , > Ed Keith > wrote: > > > On Thu, 5/13/10, Lawrence D

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Thu, 5/13/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 11:06 PM > In message , > Ed Keith > wrote: > > > Assertion I: > >    If per

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-13 Thread Ed Keith
ALWAYS give my client my source code. But I do not want to bind them to the requirements of the GPL, I want them to be free do do what they want with the program, so I never incorporate any GPLed code in my projects. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-13 Thread Ed Keith
gt; prohibitied > open source derivatives. If I use MIT licensed code, I can give someone else access to the program with out binding them to the legal restrictions of the GPL. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-13 Thread Ed Keith
com>, > Patrick > Maupin wrote: > > > On May 12, 10:48 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro > > > wrote: > > > >> In message , > Ed > >> Keith wrote: > >> > >> > ... but to claim that putting more > restrictions on someone give them

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-13 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Wed, 5/12/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 11:48 PM > In message , > Ed Keith > wrote: > > > ... but to claim that putting

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-13 Thread Ed Keith
y? I vote for C, but would like to hear any arguments for another position. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-13 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Thu, 5/13/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 8:38 AM > In message , > Ed Keith > wrote: > > > If, on the other hand you are r

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-12 Thread Ed Keith
resort of those who have run out of good arguments. The more you engage in it the weaker you make your position. This thread is generating more heat than light, and probably should be dropped. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/m

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-09 Thread Ed Keith
LGPL code. So I do not waist my time learning to use libraries covered by restrictive licenses. So if you want me to even consider using your library do not use GPL, or LGPL. I favor the Boost license in this case. I hope this is useful. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspo

Re: Picking a license (an atempt to give real advice)

2010-05-09 Thread Ed Keith
se it, but others might, and you may get paid for your work. The bottom line is: if you want the largest possible user base, go with a less restrictive license; If you hope to profit financially from your work, use the GPL. Just my $0.02, I hope it is helpful.    -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yaho

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-05 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/4/10, alex23 wrote: > From: alex23 > Subject: Re: Teaching Programming > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 8:47 PM > Ed Keith > wrote: > > Knuth wanted the generated source to be unreadable, so > people would not be tempted

Re: Sharing a program I wrote

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
tt > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > It depends on exactly what you want to do. I'd suggest you look at the following sites: http://developer.berlios.de/ http://codepad.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://ideone.com/ One of them might be what your looking for. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Stefan Behnel wrote: > From: Stefan Behnel > Subject: Re: Teaching Programming > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 11:52 AM > Ed Keith, 04.05.2010 17:43: > > The PITA is having to keep track of the indentation of > each embedd

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Stefan Behnel wrote: > From: Stefan Behnel > Subject: Re: Teaching Programming > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 11:33 AM > Ed Keith, 04.05.2010 15:19: > > --- On Tue, 5/4/10, Stefan Behnel wrote: > >> Ed Keith, 04.05

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Andre Engels wrote: > From: Andre Engels > Subject: Re: Teaching Programming > To: "James Mills" > Cc: "python list" > Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 11:00 AM > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:35 PM, James > Mills > > wrote: > &g

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/4/10, James Mills wrote: > From: James Mills > Subject: Re: Teaching Programming > To: "python list" > Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 10:35 AM > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Ed > Keith > wrote: > > To deal with indentation I had to > >

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/4/10, alex23 wrote: > From: alex23 > Subject: Re: Teaching Programming > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 10:06 AM > Ed Keith > wrote: > > For more information on Literate Programming in > general see the following links. >

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