Py2.5.1 on Ubuntu AMD X2, unicode problems

. If I onfigure with unicode=ucs2, does all this go away and I get a working system (efficient or not) on my 64-bit machine? 2. Can you point to a configure (and maybe patch) process which leads to a clean make altinstall. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org

Re: Python Database Apps

code, your app doesn't much care which DBMS you use. The postgresql payoff is in admin functionality and scaling and full ACID. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: SSL Issue

-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg49287.html 4. You can check for the hello handshake using WireShark. 5. I haven't found a tutorial for full Python client/server over HTTPS with verification of both client and server certificates. If that is where you are going, let me know what works. -- Harry George

Re: Sip4.7

directory `/usr2/src/qt/sip-4.7/siplib' -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Issue with CSV

) update the structure appropriately, d) write out the resulting new csv. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: VB frontend to Python COM backend

Robinson. It covers exactly this case. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: eggs considered harmful

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John J. Lee) writes: Harry George [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John J. Lee) writes: [...] 2. You can run your own private egg repository. IIRC, it's as simple as a directory of eggs and a plain old web server with directory listings turned on. You

Re: Setuptools, build and install dependencies

Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Harry George wrote: We need to know the dependencies, install them in dependency order, and expect the next package to find them. configure does this for hundreds of packages. cmake, scons, and others also tackle this problem. Python's old setup.py

Re: eggs considered harmful

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John J. Lee) writes: Harry George [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] These are unacceptable behaviors. I am therefore dropping ZODB3, and am considering dropping TurboGears and ZSI. If the egg paradigm spreads, yet more packages will be dropped (or will never get

Re: eggs considered harmful

Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Harry George wrote: ...at least around here. I run a corporate Open Source Software Toolkit, which makes hundreds of libraries and apps available to thousands of technical employees. The rules are that a) a very few authorized downloaders obtain

Re: Setuptools, build and install dependencies (was: eggs considered harmful)

Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Harry George [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Historically, python packages played well in this context. Install was a simple download, untar, setup.py build/install. Eggs and with other setuptools-inspired install processes break this paradigm

eggs considered harmful

as well. You can have dependencies, as long as they are documented and can be obtained by separate manual download. Thanks for listening. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: The Modernization of Emacs

enforce language-specific indents, I get frustrated. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python ODBC

(e.g., with iodbc). But there is an OSS effort at: https://sourceforge.net/projects/pyodb -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Command-line option equiv of PYTHONPATH

-- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Numeric Soup

, optimization, statistics, signal processing, etc.) built on top of numpy. Thank you. Also see gsl and its python binding. http://www.gnu.org/software/gsl/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/pygsl -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Help in Placing Object in Memory

to use the object, it needs to be in RAM. But it is possible to save the RAM image onto disk, and then bring it back later. The common approach is called pickling, though there are several variants on this: http://docs.python.org/lib/persistence.html -- Harry George PLM Engineering

Re: Scripting Visio using Python

? An alternative might be to work (cross-platform) wit the vxd (XML) file format. A good reader/writer for that would be handy. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: My python programs need a GUI, wxPython or PyQt4?

, and therefore stay away from it. PyGTK and wdxPython are solid GUIs, without the legal uncertainty. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python does not play well with others

the bindings are not complete, but oddly enough the binding developers have chosen to do just the functions I need, so who cares. A clean architecture for adding more function bindings if I'm so inclined. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: My python programs need a GUI, wxPython or PyQt4?

-- even after some cases have wandered through the courts. Mostly the trolltech statements indicate their intent to sue. That right there tells me I want to go elsewhere. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: on PySol's popularity

to work). Linux and Python got a fan due to PySol. It should be considered a cultural treasure, and if a bit of funding would help keep it rolling into the future, that might be worthwhile. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Pyparsing troubles

with statistical analysis NLP techniques. f) Hodgepodge not amenable to machine analysis. 5. Then we could look at using pyparser. But we'd have to see the pyparser code you tried. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

suggesting Ruby is replacing Perl and maybe Java. But I've yet to see data which shows people dropping Python and moving to Ruby. Where do I find that data? -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: free, python XML merger?

in advance, sulu Sounds like a general XML problem, to be solved with cElementTree perhaps. Can you provide the schema and small examples of the input files and the desired output file? -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: I think Python is a OO and lite version of matlab

-impacting processes. Magma and gravity for the earth, leather and air pressure for inflated balls, sand and accretion for beach cannonballs, and snow and hand pressure for snowballs. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

probably be fair to say that the more you know about a variety of languages, the more you appreciate Python. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Pimping the 'cgi' module

robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Harry George wrote: When I came from Perl, I too missed perl-isms and specifically CGI.pm, so wrote my own: http://www.seanet.com/~hgg9140/comp/index.html http://www.seanet.com/~hgg9140/comp/pyperlish/doc/manual.html http://www.seanet.com/~hgg9140/comp

Re: Pimping the 'cgi' module (was: Re: python gaining popularity according to a study)

packages to use, with a wee bit of glueware. So far nothing feels as simple as just doing it in python. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Will GPL Java eat into Python marketshare?

. http://sourceforge.net/projects/jpype /F Personally, I've never gotten jpype to work. Is it just me, or is it a troublesome install? -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Will GPL Java eat into Python marketshare?

if the bindings are generated automagically), you have to *think* in those same layers. The Python-oriented developer suddenly has to use a dozen imports in order to do things already done better in Pythonesque libraries. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: Will GPL Java eat into Python marketshare?

, my-way-or-the-highway. Which is antithetical to Python's promiscuous interface-with-anything approach. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python development time is faster.

understand the code's intent at a glance. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

manual eggs downloads?

simple listing the third party sites and the recommended downloads is ok. Automatically downloading is not ok. Is there some way in the eggs mechanism to just get a list of the proposed downloads, and let the user take the actions manually? -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http

Re: Python tools for managing static websites?

can be converted to html (or to other backends). Perrl's POD format is one, and I've done that as a Pdx. http://www.seanet.com/~hgg9140/comp/index.html http://www.seanet.com/~hgg9140/comp/pdx/doc/manual.html -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: What's the best IDE?

expandtab Personally, I'm an emacs guy, so I wouldn't know. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python to use a non open source bug tracker? - Trac?

now using Trac: a) Open Source b) Python c) Adequate functionality (for me at least) http://trac.edgewall.org/ I'm not trying to sell Trac, but I would like to know what drove the developers away from it. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Python form Unix to Windows

with this-- just try it. When I've helped others move code, I found the biggest problem was when they had hardcoded file paths instead of using os.path mechanisms. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: excel in unix?

with your own code or via PyUNO. Then use OOo itself or a MS-sponsored ODF reader to translate to Excel format. This should be a maintainable approach over time (but a lot more complex than just csv). -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Projects Continuous Integration

learning new technologies and new algorithms. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: json implementation

_ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 I don't know personally, but TurboGears uses json-py. https://sourceforge.net/projects/json-py/ -- Harry

Re: Project organisation

utilities or common. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [OT] Prolog and Regular Expressions, Was: Re: perspective on ruby

. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How to link foreign keys primary keys using python?

harness, then develop for the simplest case, then add complexity. E.g., no FK, FK with 1 attr, FK with multiple attrs, FKs with shared attrs. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Open Source Charting Tool

charting tool that help me create charts in JPG or gif format? Thanks, Alan See pygdchart http://www.nullcube.com/software/pygdchart.html -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How do you practice Python?

. If you do an existing project, then you benefit from peer reviews and other informal learning opportunities. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Programming language productivity

. On the other hand, I have definitely experienced language as a rate limiting factor in a) peer code reviews, b) debugging, c) ramping up new team members. Python wins those battles everytime. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Using python for a CAD program

/303057 6. Simulation http://simpy.sourceforge.net/ Also need FEM for electromagnetic analysis, and CFD for heat dissapation. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Tabs versus Spaces in Source Code

get the wrong tab indents when they move among editors or among settings on the same editor. In most languages this is an irritation, requiring some cleanup. In Python it is a disaster requiring re-inventing the coded algorithms. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http

Re: An Atlas of Graphs with Python

. I used Python for computational linguistics coursework, but not since. Google for nlp python. E.g.: http://nltk.sourceforge.net/ http://www.logilab.org/projects/hmm http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~russell/aima/python/nlp.html -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

#L006 -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Speed abilities

to speed up the python. In terms of the overall project notion-to-delivery duration, implementing in Python might be the right first step on your way to an assembler implementation. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: DO NOT USE JAVA BECAUSE IT IS NOT OPEN SOURCE

implement it and then see where the submarine patents pop up. Why would I want to let one company's abstract model sit between my code and every piece of hardware I wish to touch? -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: best way to install python modules on linux

on its PATH (which is a good rule anyway). -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python debugging question

. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learning different languages

. -- Harry George PLM Engineering Architecture -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python and Java

JKPeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Suppose you have an application written in Java, and you want to enable other applications or processes written in Python to communicate with it, i.e., to use Python as a scripting language for the application. On Windows you could do this with COM and various

Re: Fromatting an xml file

sir_alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! I have a little problem writing xml files formatted in a way like the following: rootnode nodebla/node nodebla/node /rootnode Every new node element should have a tabulation before it, but when I use xml.dom.minidom I use

Re: GUI toolkit question

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm building an app that operates on tuples (typically pairs) of hierarchical structures, and i'd like to add a GUI to display my internal representation of them, and simplify manipulations/operations on them. My requirements are: 1) Draw a single 3D

Re: SOAPpy/ZSI/Twisted SOAP over stdin/stdout?

Harry George [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Normally the SOAP Servers are designed to take control of a port and run their own sockets via inheritance from SocktServer. But under inetd and xinetd, the port is controlled elsewhere and the service just gets the stdin/stdout. I need to configure