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However, a function can be easier on the eye:
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Python books than after six months of trying to understand PERL... And
Perl is the language, and perl is what runs Perl.
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: if Python is really so much better
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Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us writes:
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 5/25/2011 8:01 AM, John Bokma wrote:
to. Like I already stated before: if Python is really so much better
than Python readability wise, why do I have such a hard time dropping
Perl and moving on?
[you meant 'than Perl'] You
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info writes:
On Wed, 25 May 2011 07:01:07 -0500, John Bokma wrote:
if Python is really so much better than Python [Perl]
readability wise, why do I have such a hard time dropping
Perl and moving on?
My guess is that you have an adversarial
). I like both languages,
I have invested a lot of time in learning Python and I am really not
dense. Yet, even though I can program in Python sufficient enough very
often I just pick Perl. Now why is that?
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D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net writes:
On Tue, 24 May 2011 00:17:55 -0500
John Bokma j...@castleamber.com wrote:
$d = @a;
That will give you the number of elements in @a. What you (probably)
mean is %hash = @array;
If I was even considering using Perl, this one exchange would send me
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com writes:
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:50 AM, John Bokma j...@castleamber.com wrote:
Wise words. And I agree. To me Python vs. Perl has nothing to do with
being a fanboy (unlike many other posters here). I like both languages,
I have invested a lot of time
D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net writes:
On Tue, 24 May 2011 11:52:39 -0500
John Bokma j...@castleamber.com wrote:
$d = @a;
That will give you the number of elements in @a. What you (probably)
mean is %hash = @array;
If I was even considering using Perl, this one exchange would
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com writes:
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Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com writes:
To me, a language is a tool.
To me, and to a lot of Perl programmers it's not different.
The more tools you have competence
#Filehandle_method_calls_load_IO::File_on_demand
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Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com writes:
Yes, I believe that was Perl. And an amusing quote. But most of the
point of it comes from the fact that Perl uses punctuation for most
that can with a single command comment out a selection
(and revert this), like Emacs.
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From: Daniel Kluev dan.kl...@gmail.com
a = [1,2]
dict([a])
Yes, but
d = dict([a])
is not so nice as
$d = @a;
That will give you the number of elements in @a. What you (probably)
mean is %hash = @array;
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my %hash = @list_of_key_value_pairs;
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prepared to compromise on the last one. Obviously, it should do all
that while preserving all the nice features of Python -- surely an easy
task.
A language I want to give a serious try the coming months is Haskell.
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by Guido van Rossum in
URL:http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=4829.
Thanks Ben, very useful link.
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to switch to Emacs to begin with :-D.
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Bastian Ballmann ba...@chaostal.de writes:
Am Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:22:19 -0500
schrieb John Bokma j...@castleamber.com:
Yeah, if you bring it down to open a file, save a file, and move the
cursor around, sure you can do that in a day or two (two since you
have to get used to the weird key
really looking
at all those shiny GUI elements when editing? I've turned off the icon
bar in Emacs (pointless) and rarely use the menu if ever.
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What I love so much about Emacs is that each feature I've wanted so far
is either part of it, or can be installed. Sometimes I have to change
how I think about the feature a bit, but so far, so good.
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with either vim or Emacs is that using
the mouse delays things.
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to set it up.
If you mean to make work optimally for your way of editing, probably
true. You can keep fine tuning, adding/testing stuff, etc.
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trick for me was just switching to Emacs, and read the GNU Emacs Manual
thoroughly and making notes. And the next day try what I read the day
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rusi rustompm...@gmail.com writes:
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rusi rustompm...@gmail.com writes:
On Apr 16, 9:13 pm, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the
editor-in-chief for programmers
/software/emacs/ or Vim
URL:http://www.vim.org/ are excellent general-purpose editors that
have strong features for programmers of any popular language or text
format.
I second Emacs or vim. I currently use Emacs the most, but I think it's
good to learn both.
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But if you had any idea what you were talking about, you already knew
that.
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the ([^$])?
[^$] matches: not a $ character
You might want [^\n]
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Title: TinEye, author: http://ideeinc.com/
Search: http://www.tineye.com/
Example:
http://www.tineye.com/search/2b3305135fa4c59311ed58b41da5d07f213e4d47/
Notice how it finds modified images.
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n00m n...@narod.ru writes:
On Mar 6, 10:17 pm, n00m n...@narod.ru wrote:
On Mar 6, 8:55 pm, John Bokma j...@castleamber.com wrote:
n00m n...@narod.ru writes:
http://www.nga.gov/search/index.shtm
http://deyoung.famsf.org/search-collections
etc
Seems they all offer search only
using for, oh, just over 20
years now, and even then it was not new. You know, before the web thing
you're talking about...
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shipping late, shipping a damaged book, or just because they didn't do
enough research and got the wrong book.
I also like the Python Essential Reference a lot.
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as resolving his issue. Try disabling garbage collection.
I just read http://bugs.python.org/issue4074 which discusses a patch
that has been included 2 years ago. So using a recent Python 2.x also
doesn't have this issue?
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tinauser tinau...@libero.it writes:
however, if in python i try to execute a script like:
cur.execute(
'''
INSERT INTO 'foo' VALUES (?,?)
'''
,('NULL','yyy'))
,(None, 'yyy'))
Or use VALUES(NULL, ?)
as suggested in another post.
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so ekhm... nevermind...
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start on a
path of Cargo Cult Coding?
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on
your site.
1) 2) will keep me from linking to your site, ever. And I am sure I am
not alone in this.
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Paul Rubin no.em...@nospam.invalid writes:
John Bokma j...@castleamber.com writes:
Xah Lee xah...@gmail.com writes: ...
Can you stop crossposting?
John, can you ALSO stop crossposting?
Since the issue is on-topic in all groups: no. I did set a follow-up
header, which you ignored
=site%3Axahlee.org%20bokma
[3] What's sad is that some of its stuff is actually good/not bad.
But tainted: Xah Lee is a spammer and a Usenet abuser.
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While I am named in that article be assured that I was not the only one
contacting dreamhost (+10 for doing this, btw). Quite some people
contacted me via email that they also talked with Dreamhost. Just keep
reporting this spammer, and maybe 1and1 will kick it out.
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Seebs usenet-nos...@seebs.net writes:
fup set to poster
On 2010-09-28, John Bokma j...@castleamber.com wrote:
Seebs usenet-nos...@seebs.net writes:
On 2010-09-26, J?rgen Exner jurge...@hotmail.com wrote:
It was livibetter who without any motivation or reasoning posted Python
code in CLPM
a
problem with Xah report him with Google Groups and with his hosting
provider 11 like I do. Dreamhost kicked him out that way.
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, the RIAA has been breaking the law as well. They do it via hired
sneeky companies, but in my book they are still responsible. (dDOS of
torrent sites/clients)
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) I
probably would use a normal if else.
What surprises me is that this is still discussed. It's like argueing
about significant whitespace. :-)
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Seebs usenet-nos...@seebs.net writes:
I dunno. I like the next if /^$/ idiom,
I don't (as a Perl programmer), I prefer:
$line =~ /^$/ and next;
Or:
$line ne '' or next;
which I read as: line must not be empty
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miss and
you've done your homework already, well, at least you get the smug
satisfaction of knowing that I was too stupid to understand your
question.
It makes you a patronizing fuck in my book. And no, that's not a joke.
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, and couldn't find it.
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entry. But, hey, then they have to get out of the couch and get out of
the house. And their moms might start to ask questions...
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Dennis Lee Bieber wlfr...@ix.netcom.com writes:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:12:01 -0500, John Bokma j...@castleamber.com
declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:
I never saw the point of the whole X-No-Archive: Yes thing. What happens
if I quote such a message? It's archived, right
Lawrence D'Oliveiro l...@geek-central.gen.new_zealand writes:
In message 87aanbx5lq@castleamber.com, John Bokma wrote:
I never saw the point of the whole X-No-Archive: Yes thing. What happens
if I quote such a message? It's archived, right?
Where did they come from?
Posting fragments
for, to get back to them.
As an additional note: tinyurl allows one to enter a postfix to use, so
instead of /xc4ax7 you can have /something-more-readable.
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I didn't mean that there are spoilers in the first 70 pages, just that
to me the excercise would spoil the book, so, I wouldn't do it. I
consider a book like a meal, I wouldn't gobble down food
://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_total_number_of_pages_in_the_%27Harry_Potter%27_series
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_reading#Claims_of_speed_readers
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Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu writes:
On 09/19/2010 10:32 PM, John Bokma wrote:
the spoiler. Do you fast forward movies as well?
I sometimes watch movies (or parts thereof) on 1.5x, especially if it
has a lot of 'filler' scenes. But only when my wife is not watching,
as she hates it.
Heh
such a message? It's archived, right?
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Tim Chase python.l...@tim.thechases.com writes:
On 09/20/10 20:12, John Bokma wrote:
Steven D'Apranost...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au writes:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:25:09 +, Tim Harig wrote:
Usernet users also have the right to use the X-No-Archive header field.
They do
.
Yup, exactly. Or people who did a lot of searching but somehow were not
able to compile a good query.
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AK andrei@gmail.com writes:
On 09/19/2010 10:32 PM, John Bokma wrote:
AKandrei@gmail.com writes:
On 09/19/2010 07:18 PM, Gregory Ewing wrote:
AK wrote:
Afaik the idea is that you can read a novel at the speed of half a page
a second or so and understand it to the same extent
Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu writes:
On 9/1/2010 8:11 PM, John Bokma wrote:
[...]
Right. And if 'small values of n' include all possible values, then
rejecting a particular O(log n) algorithm as 'unacceptable' relative
to all O(1) algorithms is pretty absurd.
I have little time, but want
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of Introduction to Algorithms,
2nd edition.
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Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu writes:
On 9/1/2010 5:40 PM, John Bokma wrote:
[..]
Yes, I switched, because 'constant time' is a comprehensible claim
that can be refuted and because that is how some will interpret O(1)
(see below for proof;-).
You make it now sound alsof this interpretation
Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com writes:
On 9/1/10 4:40 PM, John Bokma wrote:
Arnaud Delobellearno...@googlemail.com writes:
Terry Reedytjre...@udel.edu writes:
[...]
I don't understand what you're trying to say. Aahz didn't claim that
random list element access was constant time, he
xautomation
xte 'mousemove 200 200'
see: http://linux.die.net/man/1/xte
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kept on introducing ten new bugs
each time they fixed one.
and they forgot to sell that as new features, I guess :-D.
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Navkirat Singh navkir...@gmail.com writes:
Hey guys,
I am programming a webserver, I receive a jpeg file with the POST
method.The file (.jpeg) is encoded in bytes, I parse the bytes by
decoding them to a string.
Why?
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\x10\r\x0e\x11\x0e\x0b\x0b\x10\x16\x10\x11\x13\x14\x15\x15\x15\x0c\x0f
You're mistaken that the content is part of the headers, it's not. The
\r\n\r\n separates headers from the content.
Why don't you use urllib to save you from all this hassle?
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the compressed version:
I did :-). I have somewhat followed Forth from a far, far distance since
the 80's (including hardware), and did read several messages in the
thread, also since it was not clear what Hugh was referring to.
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John Bokma j...@castleamber.com writes:
On the other hand: some people I knew during my studies had no problem
at all with introducing countless memory leaks in small programs (and
turning off compiler warnings, because it gave so much noise
Hugh Aguilar hughaguila...@yahoo.com writes:
On Aug 22, 11:12 am, John Bokma j...@castleamber.com wrote:
And my
experience is that a formal study in CS can't compare to home study
unless you're really good and have the time and drive to read formal
books written on CS. And my experience
on it).
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I am sure you know what Paul means. As for patting on the back: you must
make a hell of an effort to get that.
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and I
don't really care
heh, hence all the replies you write, and mentioning it in this post.
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At an university which languages you see depend a lot on what your
teachers use themselves. A language is just a verhicle to get you from a
to b.
Addendum: or to illustrate a concept (e.g. functional programming, oop)
[..]
Like you, you mean? You
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
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David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
John Passaniti john.passan...@gmail.com writes:
Amen! All this academic talk is useless. Who cares about things like
the big-O notation for program complexity. Can't people
Steven D'Aprano st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au writes:
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 19:09:52 -0500, John Bokma wrote:
this means that Python should eliminate / optimize tail
recursion.
There have been various suggestions to add tail recursion optimization to
the language. Two problems
themselves and think that reading
a book or two equals years of study.
Oh, and rest assured, it works both ways: people who did graduate are
now and then thinking it's the holy grail and no body can beat it with
home study.
Both are wrong, by the way.
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John Nagle na...@animats.com writes:
On 8/20/2010 1:17 PM, John Bokma wrote:
John Naglena...@animats.com writes:
Python does not do tail recursion, so using recursion
where iteration could do the job is generally a bad idea. Scheme, on
the other hand, always does tail recursion where
does tail recursion:
def x(n):
... if n == 10: return
... print n
... x(n + 1)
...
x(1)
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
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and be
a guide, not thou should not use Windows.
Not so remarkable that the rant moves from an extremistic teaching
environment to an extremistic world view. From hating everything that's
not Linux and idolizing the CLI to hating everything that is different
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Carl Banks pavlovevide...@gmail.com writes:
On Aug 1, 6:09 pm, John Bokma j...@castleamber.com wrote:
Roy Smith r...@panix.com writes:
In article 4c55fe82$0$9111$426a3...@news.free.fr,
candide cand...@free.invalid wrote:
Python is an object oriented langage (OOL). The Python main
, Python, Ruby, ActionScript, GLSL, and
others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LLVM
Unladen Swallow is a branch of Python intended to be fully compatible
and significantly faster. It uses LLVM's optimization passes and JIT
compiler.
http://llvm.org/ProjectsWithLLVM/#unladenswallow
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Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com writes:
On 08/01/2010 07:09 PM, John Bokma wrote:
One thing that comes to mind is that it's much easier to distribute C
libraries than C++ libraries.
In the beginning of C++ there were programs that just converted C++ to C
(frontends). At least that is how
Carl Banks pavlovevide...@gmail.com writes:
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But they call both the C libraries in the same way.
Go look at the original claim, the one that you responded to. It's
much easier to distribute C libraries than C++ libraries.
Yup
Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us writes:
John Bokma wrote:
Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com writes:
On 08/01/2010 07:09 PM, John Bokma wrote:
One thing that comes to mind is that it's much easier to
distribute C libraries than C++ libraries.
In the beginning of C++ there were programs
#History
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_%28programming_language%29#History
http://python-history.blogspot.com/2009/01/brief-timeline-of-python.html
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the C++ compiler Acorn sold worked.
So I don't think your argument was much true back then.
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virtual ones.
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Spammers don't care about that. Best course of action, based on my
experience, is to contact abuse at googlegroups.com (now and then it
actually works), and sprint.net.
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Even trolls can be hurt, if enough people report them:
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