Re: Where is the menu bar for 3.5?

On 10/17/2015 09:27 PM, Peachy Keen wrote: > I am learning to code and I downloaded Python 3.5 32bit. But I can't > find the menu bar and after much frustration I uninstalled the > program. I would like to get started again so if you could assist it > would be appreciated. Python itself is in inte

Re: teacher need help!

On 10/17/2015 05:46 PM, Storey, Geneva wrote: > I am teaching a coding class to students grades 7-12. We have been > using Python, which seems to be a perfect fit. Everything was going > great until this week when I began teaching turtle. Suddenly, of the > 13 computers that I have, 3 began givi

Re: Defamation

On 10/19/2015 08:14 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:31 AM, gaini2002--- via Python-list > wrote: >> Please remove the page > > That page is just spam that someone sent to the newsgroup/mailing > list. You can ignore it, same as the rest of us do. > > Even if the page were to

Re: teacher need help!

On 10/20/2015 10:25 AM, Storey, Geneva wrote: > FYI-We formatted the machines, reinstalling everything, including > Python. I works with no problems now. Confusing that this would > happen on 3 out of 13 machines. Just letting you know, all is well. > Thank you for your help! Geneva Wow that se

Re: UNABLE TO GET IDLE TO RUN

On 10/28/2015 10:10 AM, Peter Otten wrote: > Terry Reedy wrote: > > Thank you for your patience. > >> Why do you think it a misfeature for IDLE to execute code the way Python >> does? > > Sadly I wasn't aware that the interactive interpreter is also vulnerable. > I should have been, but failed t

Re: UNABLE TO GET IDLE TO RUN

On 10/28/2015 12:21 PM, Peter Otten wrote: > PS: The shell people have learned their lesson and no longer include the > working directory in the PATH: > $ ls # the real thing > $ ./ls # use at your own risk Sure but this is a somewhat different genre. > > So maybe > import string # stdl

Re: installer user interface glitch ?

On 11/01/2015 03:08 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > Windows XP has now been around for twelve years. It's older than that. Release date was August 1, 2001. More than 14 years ago. My how the time flies. Though more recent versions of Windows have added features (which Python now takes advantage o

Re: Detection of a specific sound

On 10/25/2015 06:17 PM, Montana Burr wrote: > I'm looking for a library that will allow Python to listen for the shriek > of a smoke alarm. Once it detects this shriek, it is to notify someone. > Ideally, specificity can be adjusted for the user's environment. For > example, I expect to need modera

Re: Regular expressions

On 11/02/2015 07:42 PM, Tim Chase wrote: > On 2015-11-02 20:09, Seymore4Head wrote: >> How do I make a regular expression that returns true if the end of >> the line is an asterisk > > Why use a regular expression? > > if line[-1] == '*': > yep(line) > else: > nope(line) Indeed, some

Re: Regular expressions

On 11/02/2015 09:23 PM, rurpy--- via Python-list wrote: > On 11/02/2015 08:51 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: >> [...] >> Indeed, sometimes Jamie Zawinski's is often quite appropriate: >> >> Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll

Re: Regular expressions

On 11/02/2015 09:23 PM, rurpy--- via Python-list wrote: >> My completely unsolicited advice is that regular expressions shouldn't be >> very high on the list of things to learn. They are very useful, and very >> tricky and prone many problems that can and should be learned to be >> resolved with m

Re: Puzzled

On 11/02/2015 08:52 AM, Robinson, Wendy wrote: > [cid:image001.png@01D11543.5ED11D50] Just FYI this mailing list group is tied with with a system called USENET which is plain text only, so most of us can't see your attachment. This may help you copy the text to your messages in plain text form:

Re: Regular expressions

On 11/03/2015 05:33 PM, rurpy--- via Python-list wrote: > I consider regexs more fundemental. One need not even be a programmer > to use them: consider grep, sed, a zillion editors, database query > languages, etc. Grep can use regular expressions (and I do so with it regularly), but it's defaul

Re: Regular expressions

On 11/03/2015 08:23 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >>> Grep can use regular expressions (and I do so with it regularly), but >>> it's default mode is certainly not regular expressions ... >> >> Its very name indicates that its default mode most certainly is regular >> expressions. > > I don't even kno

Re: Regular expressions

On 11/04/2015 01:57 AM, Peter Otten wrote: > and then headed for the man page. Apparently there is a subset > called "basic regular expressions": > > """> Basic vs Extended Regular Expressions >In basic regular expressions the meta-characters ?, +, {, |, (, >and ) lose their speci

Re: Puzzled

On 11/05/2015 04:10 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Thu, 05 Nov 2015 12:48:11 -0800, "Robinson, Wendy" writes: >> Well... I still can't get this to work. I guess I'll just uninstall it. >> It's a bummer that there's no help on basic startup like this. >> >> Wendy Robinson >> Audit Anal

Re: Guide in Deskop Application Development in Python for newbies

On 11/07/2015 07:44 AM, leonardmesi...@gmail.com wrote: > How do you start building a desktop application in python? I mean > where do I start? Besides installing python on your windows what else > do I need, and any suggestion on how do I accomplish this project. > > Right now I really want to fi

Re: Scipy odeint (LSODA) gives inaccurate results; same code fine in MATLAB ode15s/ode23s

On 11/06/2015 11:54 PM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > It is very hard to analyze such a problem, unless you also post the > Matlab code and plot both solutions into a single graph. Also he may have a quicker response posting to the scipy list, where scientists and mathematicians regularly use and

Re: Guide in Deskop Application Development in Python for newbies

On 11/07/2015 12:15 PM, paul.hermeneu...@gmail.com wrote: > Where would you say that web2py fits into this mix > of tools? I am not familiar with it but I know it's supposed to be a lightweight framework for developing web-based sites and applications. Could be an excelle

Re: Question about math.pi is mutable

On 11/08/2015 04:19 AM, BartC wrote: >> That elegant dynamism comes at a cost: method lookup is not a constant >> memory offset. Rather, it is a dictionary lookup. > > I've never understood why this seems to be necessary in Python. Why do > names have to be looked up? (I'm assuming this is searc

Re: Puzzled

On 11/06/2015 02:36 PM, Robinson, Wendy wrote: > Ah, ok I get it now. > Thanks both! Glad you got it! Thanks for letting us know, too. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: using binary in python

On 11/10/2015 02:29 PM, kent nyberg wrote: > On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 10:20:25PM -0800, Larry Hudson via Python-list wrote: >> Your questions are somewhat difficult to answer because you misunderstand >> binary. The key is that EVERYTHING in a computer is binary. There are NO >> EXCEPTIONS, it's a

Re: Python.exe is not a valid Win32 application error message

On 11/11/2015 06:13 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 11:34 AM, M. Kamisato via Python-list > wrote: >> I am running python on Windows XP SP3 and download version 3.5xx. I got the >> above error message and could not run the program. >> I have downloaded Python version 2.7xx an

Re: Python.exe is not a valid Win32 application error message

On 11/11/2015 10:21 AM, Quivis wrote: > On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 00:34:23 +, M. Kamisato wrote: > >> I am running python on Windows XP SP3 and download version 3.5xx. I got >> the above error message and could not run the program. >> I have downloaded Python version 2.7xx and it runs fine. >> Is t

Re: How to get 'od' run?

On 11/11/2015 08:04 PM, fl wrote: > Hi, > > I am learning python. I see a previous post has such code: > > > > > >>>> data = '"binääridataa"\n'.encode('utf-8') >>>> f = open('roska.txt', 'wb') >>>> f.write(data) >17 >>>> f.close() > > The .encode methods produced a b

Re: How to get 'od' run?

On 11/11/2015 08:21 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 11/11/2015 08:04 PM, fl wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am learning python. I see a previous post has such code: >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> data = '"binääridataa"\n'.enc

Re: Python.exe is not a valid Win32 application error message

On 11/11/2015 09:43 PM, Steve Hayes wrote: > That is useful to know. > > I get messages (from Glary Utilities) that some of my programs > (including Python) need to be updated, but when I've downloaded and > updated them, the update hasn't worked. Such utilities seem to cause more trouble than

Re: Hi

On 11/12/2015 02:32 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 11/11/2015 17:35, Cameron Houliston wrote: >> Can I have a link to use python >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> > > I usually start with www.google.co.uk. I think Windows 10 blocks Google. :) And of course the official home of Python is http

Re: More tkinter Madness

On 11/12/2015 05:25 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 11/11/2015 08:25 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Tim Daneliuk >> wrote: >>> I am the author of twander (https://www.tundraware.com/Software/twander). >>> This code has run flawlessly for years on FreeBSD, Linux, MacOS

Re: Trying out Kivy

On 11/13/2015 09:33 AM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: > I tried to install pygame and PIL with pip3, but that did not find > anything. The replacement for PIL is called Pillow. I'm not sure if it's a drop-in replacement or not. If it's not, then you'd have to modify Kivy to import from Pillow. Pillow

Re: Trying out Kivy

On 11/13/2015 11:30 AM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: > On Friday 13 Nov 2015 18:21 CET, Michael Torrie wrote: > >> On 11/13/2015 09:33 AM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: >>> I tried to install pygame and PIL with pip3, but that did not find >>> anything. >> >> The rep

Re: More tkinter Madness

On 11/13/2015 12:14 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 11/13/2015 12:32 AM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: >> Apfelkiste:Sources chris$ > > Well, I get window and when I do this: > > pack [button .b -text Hello -command exit] > > Nothing appears. > > tkinter appears borked > > I have reinstalled once a

Re: Question about math.pi is mutable

On 11/10/2015 03:03 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 10-11-15 om 00:29 schreef Ben Finney: >> >> Who is doing what to whom? The user of the library isn't doing anything >> to the library author, so what is it the library author would consent >> to? Instead, you seem to be trying to assert a *power* of

Re: Trying out Kivy

On 11/14/2015 04:51 AM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: > I tried to install v1.8.0 with: > pip3 install -I kivy==1.8.0 Why are you trying to install the non-current version of kivy? Did you install pygame successfully? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What meaning is of '#!python'?

On 11/14/2015 06:54 PM, fl wrote: > Hi, > > I see an example Python code has such a line at the file beginning: > > #!python > > > Is there some meaning about it? Supposed to be, yes, but the line you've pasted there wouldn't work on any system I know of. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang

Re: Writing a Financial Services App in Python

On 11/19/2015 04:59 AM, Cai Gengyang wrote: > > From YCombinator's new RFS, This is the problem I want to solve as it > is a severe problem I face myself and something I need. I want to > write this app in Python as I heard that Python is a great language > that many programmers use ... How / wher

Re: Writing a Financial Services App in Python

On 11/19/2015 08:24 AM, Cai Gengyang wrote: > It will be a web-based application. Contract it out. Or attract people who are interested in making an open source application. What you are thinking of is a massive undertaking. Web-based application design is even more complicated than desktop app

Re: non-blocking getkey?

On 11/19/2015 08:48 AM, Ulli Horlacher wrote: > > The focus is moved to another, unrelated window, but not back to the > window in which the python scripts run. > Same behaviour on Linux (XFCE) and windows 7. That's because an app that communicates with standard in and standard out could be runn

Re: Writing a Financial Services App in Python

On 11/19/2015 09:20 AM, Cai Gengyang wrote: > Sure ... is this : https://www.codecademy.com/learn/python a good > place to learn Python ? Why not have a look first at the many tutorials, including the ones on Python's web site? You need to explore feasibility first before you go too far. Python i

Re: What is a function parameter =[] for?

On 11/19/2015 02:21 PM, BartC wrote: > (Python returns 42; so that means my languages are more dynamic than > Python? That's hard to believe!) It tells me your language does late binding for default arguments, which does mean the default argument can dynamically change at call time, which would s

Re: How can I export data from a website and write the contents to a text file?

On 11/19/2015 12:17 PM, Patrick Hess wrote: > ryguy7272 wrote: >> text_file = open("C:/Users/rshuell001/Desktop/excel/Text1.txt", "wb") >> [...] >> It doesn't seem like the '\n' is doing anything useful. All the text is >> jumbled together. >> [...] >> I finally got it working. It's like this: >

Re: Accessing container's methods

On 12/07/2015 11:10 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Hi, > > I have a class A, containing embedded embedded classes, which need to > access methods from A. > . > A highly contrived example, where I'm setting up an outer class in a > Has-a relationship, containing a number of Actors. The inner clas

Re: Getting data out of Mozilla Thunderbird with Python?

On 12/09/2015 04:11 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Maildir is also *much* safer too. With mbox, a single error when writing > email to the mailbox will likely corrupt *all* emails from that point on, > so potentially every email in the mailbox. With maildir, a single error > when writing will, at wor

Re: Administrators and moderators of Python-list, please erase all the messages that I not should have posted here in python-list!

On 12/10/2015 07:44 AM, françai s wrote: > Administrators and moderators of Python-list, please erase all the messages > that I not should have posted here in python-list. > > I ask this because I probably be in future a good programmer famous and I > do not want to talk about the topics that I s

Re: Administrators and moderators of Python-list, please erase all the messages that I not should have posted here in python-list!

On 12/10/2015 07:44 AM, françai s wrote: > Administrators and moderators of Python-list, please erase all the messages > that I not should have posted here in python-list. > > I ask this because I probably be in future a good programmer famous and I > do not want to talk about the topics that I s

Re: Python variable assigning problems...

On 12/11/2015 11:00 AM, ICT Ezy wrote: > Thank you very much your answer, I had not known assignment id Right2Left > before. I done it. Except that Robin was mistaken. Assignment is indeed left to right, though what's being assigned is on the right. > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listi

Re: Python variable assigning problems...

On 12/11/2015 11:05 AM, ICT Ezy wrote: > Deat Ian, Thank you very much your answer, but above answer from > Robin Koch and your answer is different. What's the actually process > here? I agree with Robin Koch, but your answer is correct. Pl explain > differences ? If you go re-read the answers, yo

Re: Need help on a project To :"Create a class called BankAccount with the following parameters "

On 12/19/2015 05:41 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 19/12/2015 23:19, malitic...@gmail.com wrote: >> you are absolutely correct Mark >> i'm a beginner in python and from the original question and test case given >> above i wrote this >> >> class BankAccount(object): >> def __init__(self, initi

OT: citizens and countries - was Re: v3.5.1 - msi download

On 12/22/2015 07:06 PM, jf...@ms4.hinet.net wrote: > Mark Lawrence at 2015/12/21 UTC+8 8:50:00PM wrote： >> My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask >> what you can do for our language. > > When I saw this sentence, I can't resist to think of the famous lie created > by

Re: We will be moving to GitHub

On 01/02/2016 12:02 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > What is being done to stave off the common response, addressed by GitHub > users to people submitting a change as a link to their Git repository, > of “can you please submit that as a GitHub pull request”? > > That common response makes for an unnecessar

Re: We will be moving to GitHub

On 01/01/2016 11:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 07:09 am, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> Yes, git is a capable tool. But so is Mercurial, and the arguments >> weren't primarily based on differences in functionality (which are >> pretty minor). It's mainly about the network effect.

Re: GitHub's �pull request� is proprietary lock-in

On 01/02/2016 09:56 PM, Michael Vilain wrote: > Seriously, don't like git and the gitflow, find a project where they do > things more to your liking. I do like git and the git work-flow. Seems like github is doing an end-run around several of the key features of git and the git work-flow to keep

Re: GitHub's �pull request� is proprietary lock-in

On 01/03/2016 08:09 AM, Bernardo Sulzbach wrote: > On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: >> kernel development is now exclusively on github. >> > > No it is not. If they have (now) 88 PR is because people don't RTFM. Good to know. -- https://mail.p

Re: GitHub's “pull request” is proprietary lock-in

On 01/03/2016 05:51 PM, Random832 wrote: > Just as a general comment, I note there are now at least four mangled > versions of this subject header, and threading is already fragile enough > on this list. I think in the future it would be best to avoid non-ASCII > characters in subject lines. I no

Re: GitHub's “pull request” is proprietary lock-in

On 01/04/2016 03:21 AM, m wrote: > W dniu 03.01.2016 o 05:43, Ben Finney pisze: >> That and other vendor-locked workflow aspects of GitHub makes it a poor >> choice for communities that want to retain the option of control over >> their processes and data. > > I'm also afraid that Github will make

Re: PyFladesk :: create GUI apps by Python and HTML, CSS and Javascript.

On 01/07/2016 08:54 PM, jacob Kruger wrote: > I would definitely like to try out something like this - I am primarily > a web developer, and, partly since am 100% blind, any form of GUI design > is at times an issue for me, whereas I have been working with HTML > markup layouts for almost 20 yea

Re: Strange crash while running a script with a embedded python interpreter

On 01/08/2016 09:18 AM, Rickard Englund wrote: > First, some system info > * Windows 7 (also tested on 8 and 10) > * Python 3.5.1 64bit (previously also tested using several 3.x versions) > (also tested with 32 bit, but with 3.4.2) > * Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 (earlier version of python als

Re: When I need classes?

On 01/10/2016 12:29 AM, Arshpreet Singh wrote: > Hello Friends, I am quite new to OOP(object oriented Programming), I > did some projects with python which includes Data-Analysis, Flask Web > Development and some simple scripts. > > I have only one question which is bothering me most of the time,

Re: When I need classes?

On 01/11/2016 04:45 PM, Travis Griggs wrote: > As a long term OO purist practitioner, I would add to this. > Obviously, you can organize your code any way you want, with or > without classes. You could put all your functions with an odd number > of letters in one class, and all of the even numbered

Re: [Python-ideas] Password masking for getpass.getpass

On 01/13/2016 05:47 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > What of the poor souls who, for whatever reason, can't use NoScript? > > What about those who are so frustrated with trying to get sites to work that > they just Allow All On This Page? I've seen websites that rely on anything > up to forty or fifty

Re: Stop writing Python 4 incompatible code

On 01/13/2016 06:02 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Or we're too busy dealing with rising sea levels, crop failures, antibiotic > resistant diseases, chaotic mass migrations, terrorists, wars for control > over resources like water, and the collapse of the corporate state to care > about such little t

Re: Stop writing Python 4 incompatible code

On 01/13/2016 06:02 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: > In fact, in the years before Python3 arrived, it had enjoyed > a steady ascension from obscurity into mainstream hacker > culture, but now, all that remains is a fractured community, > a fractured code base, and a leader who lost his cushy job > at Goog

Re: Stop writing Python 4 incompatible code

On 01/13/2016 08:29 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: > Of course. But when you leave things open for speculation, > you enviably create a situation where rumors can start > circulating. GvR is not just any "John Doe" engineer, no, > he's the head of an open source community, and the community > has a right

Re: Stop writing Python 4 incompatible code

On 01/16/2016 11:00 AM, William Ray Wing wrote: > It was known at the time. It was certainly known by the companies > that were ripped off, but they were typically small to really small > and couldn’t get traction for their stories in a press that was in > thrall to Microsoft. It was pretty much o

Re: wxpython strange behaviour

On 01/15/2016 05:58 PM, Shiva Upreti wrote: > > What kind of further details do you want? Please tell me and i will try my > best to provide them. As always, post a small but complete example test program (no more than 20 lines of code) that has the problem. Paste it in such a way that one can

Re: how do I put the python on my desktop or even access it

On 01/16/2016 01:11 PM, zack fitzsimons wrote: > > > > > > > I'm assuming based on your empty email that you must be running Windows. Python is a command-line program. First run cmd.exe and then from there you can run python.exe and interact with it in immediate mode. To create and run p

Re: Modify Settings window pop-up

On 01/17/2016 03:54 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 16:52:52 -0500, Terry Reedy > declaimed the following: > >> On 1/17/2016 12:13 PM, Arvind Vallabhaneni wrote: >>> >>> [cid:888c5934-3c75-43d8-9e76-59a9dfbef814] >> >> What is this? When I mouse over, Thunderbird just says 'ab

Re: how do I put the python on my desktop or even access it

On 01/17/2016 02:46 PM, eryk sun wrote: > On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Michael Torrie wrote: >> >> but if it's a text-mode program you must run it from cmd.exe like this: >> >> python \path\to\myprogram.py. > > You only need to run from another console p

Re: How do I add 18 seconds to an ISO-8601 String in Python?

On 01/23/2016 07:22 PM, Robert James Liguori wrote: > Thank you so much! Btw, how do I convert back to ISO-8301? Have a look at the documentation for the datetime module. The docs will tell you how you can convert to a string, formatted to your specifications and needs. As always, the documenta

Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python

On 01/28/2016 07:34 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: >> Fillmore writes: >>> I look and Python and it looks so much more clean >> >> Yes it is, I forgot everything I knew about Perl shortly after starting >> to use Python. > > https://xkcd.com/35

Re: Cannot step through asynchronous iterator manually

On 01/30/2016 01:22 AM, Frank Millman wrote: > There are times when I want to execute a SELECT statement, and test for > three possibilities - > - if no rows are returned, the object does not exist > - if one row is returned, the object does exist > - if more that one row is returned,

Re: Cannot step through asynchronous iterator manually

On 01/30/2016 02:19 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > Efficiency. That's a fine way of counting actual rows in an actual > table. However, it's massive overkill to perform an additional > pre-query for something that's fundamentally an assertion (this is a > single-row-fetch API like "select into", and i

Re: Cannot step through asynchronous iterator manually

On 01/30/2016 02:57 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: > SELECT count(some_id_field),field1,field2,field3 FROM wherever WHERE > conditions > > If the first column (or whatever you decide to alias it as) contains a > count, and the rest of the information is still there. If count is 1, &g

Re: Cannot step through asynchronous iterator manually

On 01/30/2016 03:06 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > That actually violates the SQL spec. Some servers will accept it, > others won't. (You're not supposed to mix column functions and > non-column functions.) Are you sure? Wikipedia is not always the most accurate place, but they have several clear e

Re: Cannot step through asynchronous iterator manually

On 01/30/2016 02:19 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > where the ... is the full original query. In other words, the whole > query has to be run twice - once to assert that there's exactly one > result, and then a second time to get that result. The existing > algorithm ("try to fetch a row - if it fails

Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python

On 01/31/2016 03:34 PM, Fillmore wrote: > On 01/30/2016 05:26 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> Python 2 vs python 3 is anything but "solved". >> >> >> Python 3.5.1 is still suffering from the same buggy >> behaviour as in Python 3.0 . > Can you elaborate? Sad to say jmf is a long-time troll o

Re: Daemon strategy

On 02/06/2016 09:04 AM, paul.hermeneu...@gmail.com wrote: > On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Ben Finney wrote: >> paul.hermeneu...@gmail.com writes: >> >>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ben Finney >>> wrote: Since MS Windows lacks those facilities, ‘python-daemon’ can't use them. >>>

Re: Python 3.6 Installation

On 01/17/2017 03:31 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 1/17/2017 1:23 PM, Earl Izydore wrote: >> I having problems installing Python 3.6. I was using Python 2.7 >> successfully. >> >> Today, I installed python-3.6.0.exe. > > Which binary? from where? > >> At the end of the installation I got a message

Re: Python 3.6 Installation

On 01/17/2017 07:12 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wednesday 18 January 2017 12:30, Michael Torrie wrote: > >> Yes googling error messages is a good idea. However the SO link seems to >> describe this problem as a missing DLL, probably the VS 2015 runtime >> redistr

Re: Python 3.6 Installation

On 01/18/2017 10:59 AM, eryk sun wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 6:23 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: >> Not everyone has run Windows update since the current runtime was released. > > Python's installer tries (and sometimes fails) to install the > KB2999226 update, which installs an old version of the U

Re: python corrupted double-linked list error

On 01/19/2017 05:53 PM, Xristos Xristoou wrote: > > > how to understand that ?solution ? Well the problem is likely in the gdal or/and qgis modules. You'll probably want to talk to the qgis folks about this problem. It's not a bug in Python itself. If you can reproduce the problem with a minim

Re: How coding in Python is bad for you

On 01/23/2017 10:34 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > I would respond point-by-point if I thought the author had a clue. Yeah a pretty bizarre, flame-bait blog post. Glad I use an ad-blocker as a matter of course. I'm uncertain as to why Mark chose to post that particular little gem to the list. It's

Re: Is it possible to get the Physical memory address of a variable in python?

On 01/23/2017 10:49 AM, Sourabh Kalal wrote: > how we can access the value from using id.. > like x=10 > id(x) > 3235346364 > > how i can read value 10 using id 3235346364 Many objects in python such as numbers like 10 or strings are immutable; they can never be altered once called into existance

Re: Is shutil.get_terminal_size useless?

On 01/28/2017 04:00 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >> $ COLUMNS=123 python3 test_gts.py | cat >> shutil: os.terminal_size(columns=123, lines=999) >> os: os.terminal_size(columns=72, lines=48) Interesting. On my machine with Python 3.4, calling os.get_terminal_size() and piping the output results in the

Re: Is shutil.get_terminal_size useless?

On 01/28/2017 09:03 AM, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 01/28/2017 04:00 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >>> $ COLUMNS=123 python3 test_gts.py | cat >>> shutil: os.terminal_size(columns=123, lines=999) >>> os: os.terminal_size(columns=72, lines=48) > > Interestin

Re: Is shutil.get_terminal_size useless?

On 01/28/2017 09:15 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > Then get_terminal_size() should raise, unless you explicitly ask for a > default size. Which it does if you call it on the standard out file handle, which is the default, and for most applications, the most useful. -- https://mail.python.org/mailm

Re: Is shutil.get_terminal_size useless?

On 01/28/2017 09:15 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > Then explain why os.get_terminal_size() returns the correct answer. Basically you were asking two different questions there. shutil.get_terminal_size always asks the question of size of the terminal that the standard output file handle is connected t

Re: What are your opinions on .NET Core vs Python?

On 01/30/2017 11:44 AM, Juan C. wrote: > On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 1:06 AM, Juan C. wrote: >> >> As you guys might know, .NET Core is up and running, promising a >> "cross-platform, unified, fast, lightweight, modern and open source >> experience" (source: .NET Core official site). What do you guy

Re: What are your opinions on .NET Core vs Python?

On 01/30/2017 06:18 PM, Joseph L. Casale wrote: > Which sounds pretty good to me, they are both high performance, mature > and rich languages. Sure it's a matter of personal preference and need. I happen to find the expressivity and flexibility of Python (warts and all) to be rather liberating co

Re: What are your opinions on .NET Core vs Python?

On 01/30/2017 06:52 PM, Nathan Ernst wrote: > self vs this, and you might start a language holy war. Actually no, you misread his point. He was speaking of C#, not Python. In C#, the only word you can use is "this." He was saying that you can use the explicit self paradigm in C#. Simply prefix ea

Re: What are your opinions on .NET Core vs Python?

On 01/30/2017 10:31 PM, Gregory Ewing wrote: > Michael Torrie wrote: >> He was saying that you can >> use the explicit self paradigm in C#. Simply prefix each member variable >> with "this." > > One can do that in one's own code, but it doesn't

Re: sorting a list of dicts by a computed field

On 01/31/2017 01:26 PM, Larry Martell wrote: > I have a list of dicts and one item of the dict is a date in m/d/Y > format. I want to sort by that. I tried this: > > sorted(data['trends'], key=lambda k: > datetime.strptime(k['date_time'],'%m/%d/%Y')) > > But that fails with: > > Exception Type:

Re: Python3 using requests to grab HTTP Auth Data

On 02/01/2017 01:51 PM, Νίκος Βέργος wrote: > as well as input() for both user & pass combo but iam not getting in chrome > the basic pop-up HTTP auth window. > > Any idea why? What you're describing is not something you can do with an interactive Python script. HTTP-level authentication is req

Re: How to know what to install (Ubuntu/Debian) for a given import?

On 02/01/2017 01:03 PM, Wildman via Python-list wrote: > > It is the proper way. This page helps explain it. > > http://askubuntu.com/questions/784068/what-is-gi-repository-in-python > >> ... and doesn't it need an internet connection? > > No. However the gi module provides access to GTK+3, a

Re: How to know what to install (Ubuntu/Debian) for a given import?

On 02/01/2017 02:29 PM, Chris Green wrote: > OK, thank you, what a strange way to do it. Why is it strange? Essentially, python bindings for any GObject-based library are now fully automatic via this gi module. No longer do we need custom bindings for each component of a glib-based library. Thi

Re: best way to ensure './' is at beginning of sys.path?

On 02/03/2017 12:07 PM, Wildman via Python-list wrote: > Sorry, I forgot something important. If you use > /etc/rc.local, the execute bit must be set. I don't think this is what Neal Becker was asking about. He's talking about the Python module search path (sys.path) not the operating system PAT

Re: best way to ensure './' is at beginning of sys.path?

On 02/04/2017 08:19 AM, Wildman via Python-list wrote: > No, I do not know. You might try your question in > a linux specific group. Personally I don't understand > the danger in having the dot in the path. The './' > only means the current directory. DOS and Windows > has searched the current

Re: best way to ensure './' is at beginning of sys.path?

On 02/04/2017 12:20 PM, Lew Pitcher wrote: > It doesn't take root access to write a file to /tmp > In fact, /tmp is specifically set up to allow /any/ user to create /any/ file > or directory in it. > > Witness: > > > guest@bitsie:~$ chmod a+x /tmp/dothis > > Hey! I've even made the file exe

Re: search for a data in my browser via script

On 02/06/2017 07:43 AM, Meeran Rizvi wrote: > Hello guys, > Here i am writing a script which will open my chrome browser and opens the > URL www.google.com. > But how to search for a data via script. > for example i need to search for 'Rose' in google.com via script. > how to do that? > > > impo

What's with all the messages from @f38.n261.z1

Seems like we're getting a bunch of messages on the mailing list that appear to be copies of real member posts that are saying they are from @f38.n261.z1? They don't appear to be deliberate impersonations. Some misconfigured server reflecting messages back to the list perhaps? -- https://mail.py

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