Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-27 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, both a finding of yes, Microsoft had a monopoly and a finding of no, Microsoft did not have a monopoly would both have been within the trial court's discretion. Well, of course, and they said YES (as a finding

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-27 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microsoft was not going to let a business parasitically use Windows to build a business that touted the advantages of competing products. Well, it should have, because that's what manufacturers of

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-27 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter T. Breuer wrote: In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microsoft was not going to let a business parasitically use Windows to build a business that touted the advantages

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-26 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter T. Breuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know what drugs you're on, but the McDonald's corporation most certainly is in the business of the wholesale distribution of burger patties

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-26 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter T. Breuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter T. Breuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-26 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter T. Breuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That doesn't at all address my point. The point is, there are large numbers of people

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-26 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Microsoft said you can sell Windows and other operating systems, but there will be a charge for every machine you sell without Windows -- if you want to be able to buy Windows wholesale. Someone

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-26 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc Roedy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. Maytag makes the machines. In the computer instance, we at CMP custom build the computers. Microsoft have no business telling me what to do when they supplied only one component. I could not even sell a BARE computer. I'm a bit

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-25 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you need to look up extortion in a dictionary. I can walk up to you and say if you want me to mow your lawn, you must pay me $1 every time you smoke a cigarette. So long as you can say no and all that happens is that I

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-25 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but that's the if. I have a monopoly on *me* mowing your lawn. You can, of course, go to someone else to have your lawn mowed. Of course you can't - why would anyone else be available to mow my lawn just because I want it

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-25 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter T. Breuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [DS, MS shill, said ..] Essentially, Microsoft asked for exclusive arrangements. That is, arrangements wherein you could not sell competing products

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-25 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) There is no other operating system worth selling. In this case, you are right, you have no choice but to sell the Microsoft OS, but the deal they're offering you harms you in no way. (Unless you intended to sell PCs with

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-25 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter T. Breuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) there are plenty of other OSs that are developed or could be developed but which cannot get a foothold or even manage to be put on the shelves because

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-25 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eike Preuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Shouldn't it be my right as a seller, to decide that I want to sell an operating system 'that nobody wants' _as well as_ operating systems that 'everybody

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-25 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter T. Breuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, it certainly is. However, it is also Microsoft's right as a seller to refuse discounts to those who also sell competing products. You may

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-25 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The first two points are factually wrong, and the third is an opinion based on the concept, as far as I can see, that Microsoft should be allowed to do

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-20 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter T. Breuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Not if they abuse a monopoly position in doing so, which is where we started. In other words, what they did was wrong because it was them who did

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-20 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc T Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter T. Breuer wrote: In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter T. Breuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Not if they abuse a monopoly position in doing so, which is where we

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-20 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter T. Breuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There would be if an engine manufacturer refused to provide car manufacturers with ANY engines for any model, unless all buyers were charged for THEIR engine

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-18 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc Richard Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here in comp.os.linux.misc, John Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake unto us, saying: Peter T. Breuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that I was using 3.x. Maybe it was 3.1? I seem to remember an earlier major

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-16 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc Jeroen Wenting jwenting at hornet dot demon dot nl wrote: Peter T. Breuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In comp.os.linux.misc Jeroen Wenting jwenting at hornet dot demon dot nl wrote: Without Microsoft 90% of us would never have seen

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc Jeroen Wenting jwenting at hornet dot demon dot nl wrote: Without Microsoft 90% of us would never have seen a computer more powerful than a ZX-81 and 90% of the rest of us would never have used only dumb mainframe terminals. Uh - when microsoft produced dos 1.0, or

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc John Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter T. Breuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In comp.os.linux.misc Jeroen Wenting jwenting at hornet dot demon dot nl wrote: Without Microsoft 90% of us would never have seen a computer more powerful than a ZX-81 and 90% of the rest

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I wasn't explicit enough. Most people who want cars also want an engine. Some don't. Dealers could sell cars and engines separately. They just (generally) don't. There is nothing illegal or immoral about this. There