When a list initializes, will it always evaluate in order starting at
element 0 and finishing with the last element?
def f1(x):
return x + 2
def f2(x):
return x * 2
def f3(x):
return x * 3
the_list = [f1(7), f2(8), f3(4)]
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"""Perhaps we need a pythonic FRONTEND. """
Should have happened years ago.
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I never used the Django AMF, I use JSON to go between Python and
Flex. It works well, but lacks easy 2 way communication of course.
Interfacing with Flex is a gaping hole in the Python libraries.
Python needs a web framework that embraces Flex from the ground up,
HTML being such a limited web disp
"""I work right across from the Nanosystems Institute, and now this!
You
know, having studied a lot of microbiology in college, I can't fathom
the thought of being outdone. So I'm going to start doing
femtoruminating, which reduces thought to its most fundamental
particle,
the mor-on. """
Perhaps,
Here's an interesting Podcast musing on the possible future of Python
and computing, illustrated and commentated by SonomaSunshine...
Enjoy...
http://samfeltus.com/kudzu/Nanoprogramming_podcast.html
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I suspect you could make it visually far more interesting if you
replaced the colored pixels with colorful images, and mapped the
images on a grid using Flash.
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Funkiest SonomaSunshine page ever... A slim, trim 30ish MB page,
leaves time for fetching a beer or some coffee. Takes about 10
minutes to watch. Yet another example of using Django to generate
frilly, colorful Flash pages instead of more of that hypertext
stuff...
:)
http://samfeltus.com/kudzu
SonomaSunshine runs well on Django now...
http://samfeltus.com/django/DjangoSummer.html
(Use flowers to navigate to 10 scenes, no preloader, ~6mb)
SonomaSunshine, the Redneck Riviera's Best Python Powered Folk Art
Server, makes it easy to generate Cartoonish backdrops for Flash
movies in Django.
Presented for your amusement, with source code for the first time!!!
LOL
The Redneck Riviera's Best Python Powered Folk Art Server...
SonomaSunshine v0.01 for Django
Django application for creating/editing Shiny/Happy Flash movies.
http://samfeltus.com/django/hey_yall.html
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I don't suggest Python is unconcerned with the casual user and the end
user, only that this is where PHP's community excels.
Learnig both as a newbie, I actually found PHP more confusing and
difficult than Python. Programming in PHP reminds me of a game of
trivial pursuit. Once you know a little
PHP is just a more inclusive community. The PHP community is more
concerned with the casual user and the end user. This is PHP's core
strength, and one of Python's core weaknesses. The Python community
would be wise to adopt PHP's concern for the end user.
That being said, I don't think you wil
Here is a new style of SonomaSunshine page, edited and created with
TurboGears. It's a bloated file, but it's comical.
Note - Links with words stay on page,links without words are random
links to other sites. Visiting Monkey City first is recommended.
As always, LIVE FROM LA!!!
http://samfeltus
The TurboGears app from Outer Space...
Sam the Gardener
http://samfeltus.com/as3/codetalking3.html
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http://samfeltus.com/as3/codetalking.html
SonomaSunshine - The Redneck Riviera's Best Python Powered Folk Art
Server
:)
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SonomaSunshine has been updated...
It's a Python powered tool to generate and edit 21st Century Redneck
Folk Art...
http://samfeltus.com/as3/mardi_gras.html
http://samfeltus.com/site_index.html
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It would be interesting to see a computer language include such
functionality from the ground up. If these were core features of a
language, you'd have something wicked cool, and not just a new
language retreading the same features and functionality.
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Comical new updated link
http://sonomasunshine.com/sonomasunshine/index_sunshine.php?pagename=ufo_and_more
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I was considering opening an account with Dreamhost. Can't say I agree
with all of Xah's writings, but they often raise important points.
Dreamhost is a company I will never spend money with. Usenet is full
of narrow minded group thinking that needs to be questioned.
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Good question on new ideas vs old ideas. Seems to me the computer
industry needs some young brains, raised around the internet, to
generate some major new theoretical ideas for computers. Seems to me
it must already be occuring below the radar. When it happens, it
shouldn't be too hard to spot.
I would. Most people would, once they realize that shiny/flashy is
information too.
High "production values" affect value-determining centers of the brain,
bypassing the linguistic and logical centers. They make you understand
that the thing you're being presented is "worth something".
Mo
"""I find it tiresome that Flash apologists believe technical
advantages
can overcome a need for open, community-driven, vendor-independent
standards. """
:)
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Don't worry, you won't have to look if it makes you feel dirty...
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Nah, the world needs more Flashy WebSites, :) But I do renounce my
uglier criticisms of HTML. I realize now it is just a completely
different mindset, not a bad technology.
Python is far easier than PHP IMO. Especially if there is minimal
HTML, I mostly just want to get at a database and manipu
This has all been very helpful. I've been struggling for awhile on
which direction to go with computer programming. I realize the problem
with HTML and the P language family is that although it makes sense to
me, it doesn't really resonate with my perspective. Flash definitely
does. I finally r
Perhaps the my question should be this, and don't get me wrong, I
REALLY like Python.
Perhaps Python is not a great language to focus on for someone with a
strong interest in Flash and little interest in HTML?
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I don't agree with 99.9%, but the majority of Flash sites are done
poorly. Mine is certainly sub-optimal, :)
1. Loss of back button
Isn't this really a myth? A page with a time dimension, be it Flash,
HTML/JS or whatever, breaks the back button. A page without a time
dimension doesn't break the
"I guess for better or worse, Flash is a very different mindset and
approach to the web."
I do find it interesting that Flash folks readily will acknowledge that
Flash has shortcomings, yet anti-Flash folks seem to have great
difficulty acknowledging Flash's positive features over HTML. Such
situ
As a final thought, seperate from the whole open source/search issue,
which has obvious merit, it does seem Flash has many excellent ideas as
a language/tool for creating/expressing non written ideas that are
lacking in the HTML world.
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Hmmm... It is interesting how something is terrible to one person, and
great to another, and vice versa.
I keep trying to understand why people like HTML/JS, I don't think I am
gonna understand. I guess for better or worse, Flash is a very
different mindset and approach to the web.
Oh well, I l
Religious Fanaticism is a very strong in the Computer community. But,
is it really a surprise that when a bunch of hairless apes created a
new mental world, they created it with a complicated Quilt of religions
and nationalities, and many became fanatical?
I am confidant the responces Xah will re
I am in agreement that open standards are better. I also wish the open
standards bodies would work more creatively, to bring us the most
advanced standards, and not some echo of yesterdays technology. But,
too me, saying No Flash is saying No Source if not Open Source. But,
for me, it is better
I guess there isn't much to understand. If you are satisfied with a
text based, static image web, that is light on artistic possabilities,
all that HTML stuff is acceptable. Perhaps the HTML/JS group will even
get off their rear ends and bring some decent cross platform graphics
capabilities to t
I guess there isn't much to understand. If you are satisfied with a
text based, static image web, that is light on artistic possabilities,
all that HTML stuff is acceptable. Perhaps the HTML/JS group will even
get off their rear ends and bring some decent cross platform graphics
capabilities to t
I am trying to figure out why so little web development in Python uses
Flash as a display technology. It seems most Python applications
choose HTML/CSS/JS as the display technology, yet Flash is a far more
powerful and elegant display technology. On the other hand, HTML/JS
seems clunky and antiqu
I prefer Emacs or TextWrangler
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"""Not that Mr. Lee has ever shown much interest in feedback, but you
pretty well have stick to vanilla ASCII to get your notation through
unmangled on newsgroups."""
It is the 21st century, so having to do that oughta inspire some sort
of well earned anti Unix rant...
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By the way Sybren, if you don't mind, what kinda computer and browser
were you using, trying to figure out which browsers get redirected to
html and which get the Flash Site. If you have Flash plugin, what
version was it?
Thanks,
Sam the Gardener
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I aint a professional coder, but a gardener. However, the
Flash->JSON->Python technique works. It is poorly coded, but it is IMO
a very simple way to integrate Flash and Python compared to the methods
normally suggested on the net.
The HTML is just some junk thrown up for people with lower tech
PS. Here is an example...
http://sonomasunshine.com/sonomasunshine/FrontPage.html
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PS. Here is an example...
http://sonomasunshine.com/sonomasunshine/FrontPage.html
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Why not just have the Python on the server send a JSON string to the
Flash ap? Easy easy. Just use LoadVars on the Flash side.
All that SOAP and XML-RPC sounds might be an needless overcomplication.
Sam the Gardener
http://sonomasunshine.com
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Perhaps IronPython could be hacked in somehow also? Seems like it
might could.
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Perhaps IronPython could be hacked in somehow also? Seems like it
might could.
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Didn't ActiveState or somebody have a Python plugin to run Python on IE?
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Python is a very good place to start.
However,Perl isn't a bad place to start either. Perl has a gazillion
ways to express yourself. Perl is overly complicated (yet easy to get
started with), so you are exposed to numerous ways to think. Perl
gives you 8 million different sized and colored rope
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