Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-19 Thread Skip Montanaro via Python-list
Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip. > Even if you're telling it to install in ~/.local? I could see not allowing to run it as root. I honestly haven't tried. Maybe I should... 🤔 I have an old laptop running XUbuntu 22.04 which I generally only use to compile the mo

Re: PyCon

2024-05-18 Thread Skip Montanaro via Python-list
> > > I’m at PyCon in Pittsburgh and I’m haven’t an amazing time! > > s/haven’t/having/ > No need to explain/correct. We understand you are excited. Many of us have been in the same state before. ;-) Enjoy, Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )

2024-03-30 Thread Skip Montanaro via Python-list
> > > https://xkcd.com/1306/ > > what does SIGIL mean? > > I think its' a Perl term, referring to the $/@/# symbols in front of > identifiers. > I had a vague recollection of hearing it elsewhere (*Game of Thrones,* on the armies' battle flags?), but didn't know what i

Re: Testing (sorry)

2024-02-19 Thread Skip Montanaro via Python-list
> > Here is a typical bounce message that I get: > > : host mail.python.org[188.166.95.178] said: > 450-4.3.2 > Service currently unavailable 450 4.3.2 > > Some time after I get one of these messages I re-send the post. Usually > it gets through then. > Looks kinda like greylisting to me. I'

Re: Testing (sorry)

2024-02-18 Thread Skip Montanaro via Python-list
I can't explain the delays, but will note that the gate-news program on the server runs every 5 minutes via cron. There are multiple moving parts in the overall system. You'll probably get a more useful answer from postmas...@python.org. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-lis

Re: test-ignore

2024-02-15 Thread Skip Montanaro via Python-list
> > True, but did the poster really need to send another one to say "yes, > that worked"? > Maybe to test the bidirectionality of the gateway? 🤷 If the messages stop I think we can let it die. It's not like this sort of activity is a regular occurrence. (A bigger problem for me was always Usenet p

Re: test-ignore

2024-02-15 Thread Skip Montanaro via Python-list
> > > Test post to see if my Newsgroup post program is working. > > Aim your test messages at alt.test, please. > I agree that basic Usenet connectivity messages should go to alt.test. It's not clear from the original post, but if the poster's aim was to see if posts to comp.lang.python traverse t

Re: Question about garbage collection

2024-01-15 Thread Skip Montanaro via Python-list
> I do have several circular references. My experience is that if I do not > take some action to break the references when closing the session, the > objects remain alive. Below is a very simple program to illustrate this. > > Am I missing something? All comments appreciated. Python has normal ref

Re: Python 3.11.5 Pip Issue

2023-09-14 Thread Skip Montanaro via Python-list
> I downloaded Python 3.11.5, and there was nothing in the “Scripts” file, > and there was no Pip. I would like to know why. > Can't help with the empty/missing Scripts folder. Does running python -m ensurepip get you a working pip? Which you should then run as python -m pip ... Skip > -- ht

Re: Have you some experience / link about difference between Python builded with gcc and clang?

2020-03-02 Thread Skip Montanaro via Python-list
> > Have you compiled it optimized (--enable-optimizations --with-lto)? > Nope, just ./configure. Further investigation is left as an exercise for the reader. :-) Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Have you some experience / link about difference between Python builded with gcc and clang?

2020-03-01 Thread Skip Montanaro via Python-list
I didn't have clang installed. It was just "sudo apt install clang-8". From there all I had to do was build Python from scratch twice, install pyperformance using pip after the first build, then run it after each build. It's not difficult. Going beyond that right now is not an itch I need to scratc