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Verified. Methododology:
1. Copied test_localise.py from the PR into a master checkout.
2. Added a null locale.localize.
3. Verified that all new tests failed.
.. code-block::
Ran 64 tests in 0.023s
FAILED (errors=4, skipped=4)
(base) blockhead:cpython
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"Is the same as" is a little misleading - "gives the same result as" would be
better, since there is little doubt actually slicing the subject strings would
be massively less efficient in looping contexts.
The re module offers the sta
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> Python 3.6.4rc1 is the first release candidate for Pyth
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IIRC sockets can be marked as inheritable or not. It seems to me it would be a
useful enhancement to allow the same determination for the pipes.
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Don't forget that the built-in modules may need to be available before the
zipimporter is. A long time ago (when sys.metapath was introduced) I
experimented with imports from non-filesystem sources and that hit me until
I realised what was going on.
S
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If you are going to add such a keyword argument, wouldn't it make sense to
maintain compatibility with print, and use end=terminator?
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I agree on reflection that a single nanoseconds integral value makes more
sense. This then requires refactoring of the existing code so that existing
tests continue to pass using a microsecond property.
Code using ONLY nanoseconds is a disjoint case, for which
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A pleasure. Pretty heavily committed at present, but all Python related so
maybe there'll be more small positive improvements.
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OK, here's what I think should be close to the final patch. I've updated the
documentation, rebuilt it and verified it reads OK, and confirmed that the new
code passes all tests except those skipped for platform reasons (I think they
expect a Windows
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Is there another way? :)
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> Consider using itertools.permutations() to generate the 120 ca
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Testing could be interesting. I'm thinking of generating five random string
keys with a couple of rows of data, creating csv StringIOs (using pure Python)
for all 120 combinations and verifying that they read back in the order they
were written.
We should also
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Sorry, deleted the originally submitted (incorrect) patch file.
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It's sometimes annoying that a csv.DictReader doesn't retain the field ordering
given in the first line of the file. Sometimes it matters.
This patch converts the reader so that it returns an OrderedDict rather than a
plain dict, thereby retaining
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Hmm. Tried making a PR to a forked copy and didn't see it. Probably just
incompetence on my part.
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I don't seem to be able to activate the PR template, but if you are happy it
works then I guess this would be a belt-and-braces change. If nobody merges it
and it gets closed that's fine, but if it obviates just a few pull requests it
will save both the core
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Hmm, not sure I quite understand how to interact with this tracker. So here's
an updated patch that I thought I had already submitted ...
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I have seen a relatively large number of pull requests via the Github mirror
repository, because would-be contributors presumably just look on Github and,
having found Python there, assume this is the place for contributions.
The standard README file gives
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Just wanted to add a couple of comments here in case there's any interest. In
our missions to make the world's market data available we deal with financial
exchanges, many of whom are already recording event data at nanosecond
resolution.
Further, I believe
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Just wanted to add a couple of comments here in case there's any interest. In
our missions to make the world's market data available we deal with financial
exchanges, many of whom are already recording event data at nanosecond
resolution.
Further, I believe
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I don't agree there is any place for the term "read-only" in this document. A
reader who doesn't understand it or seeks clarification is likely to end up at
a page like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Read-only. I submit that nowhere
except the doc
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New submission from Steve Holden:
When repeated use of a nonlocal variable is made (e.g. to define multiple
functions in a loop) ideally the closure should reflect the value of the local
variable at the time of use. This should at least be explicitly documented if
the behavior is considered
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Indeed the issue is that the pointer is to the local variable rather than its
value at time of closure defnition. Not being familiar with the way cells are
used, I am unsure as to how the closure keeps the whole namespace alive (that
would seem to require
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I believe (though my belief is untrammeled by anything as useful as knowledge
of the code: my diagnostic skills are largely psychic) that the cell
essentially takes over the reference from the local namespace of the
about-to-terminate lexically surrounding
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In my experience the devs are pretty well in touch with the user base (though
they don't always acknowledge its input). If you leave a programming language
at the first sign of wart I fear yo may eventually run out of languages.
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Is a fix really required? Are we really supposed to protect programmers from
their own folly by second-guessing when constant folding might be required and
when it might not? How is hte interpreter supposed to know the function isn't
called?
The simple
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How about: A simple JSON decoder that converts between JSON string
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I hope the title change is helpful. It's not clear from the report what module
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The submitted patch does not approach the issue, since the real question is WHY
is the function being passed a None argument in the first place. Without
extensive testing there would be no guarantees that this change would not
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I have just tested this against the 2.7.1 release on Windows 7 and it runs
fine. I suspect there may have been some transient error with the reporter's
system or network, but if this still fails for him then reopening will be
appropriate
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ValueError: (11, 'Resource temporarily unavailable') looks to me like a Cygwin
error relating to Windows' DLLs and the difficulty of mapping them to unique
memory locations. I very much doubt it's a real issue with Python, so closing
Haven't had much Cc input so far, but this one is definitely worth following up
on. Thanks!
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After some three years labor I (@holdenweb
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the thousandth murdered).
So I wondered if anyone had any good ideas.
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We see in the Quick-Start Tutorial (py3k section 8.4.1) the following example:
Decimal(3.14)
Decimal('3.140124344978758017532527446746826171875')
In actua; fact one would expect an exception from that code, which should
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no longer believe it. I've been
crashing against one bit of cleverness after another in Python's
unification of types and classes...
Well if you can find a way to implement a class system that doesn't use
clever tricks *in its implementation* please let me know.
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On 12/24/2010 2:21 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote:
In comp.lang.c++ small Pox smallpox...@gmail.com wrote:
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You should take your religion somewhere else.
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on an IRC
channel (freenode.net is what I use, but others have their favorites).
Maybe #squid?
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delegate to that) gets called every time two objects
have to be compared. If cmp is a Python function (or equivalently if
__cmp__() is a Python method) then calling it will take much longer than
calling hte built-in default routines.
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is made to import a module the first thing the
interpreter does is to look at sys.modules. If it has the correct key in
it then the assumption is that the module has already been imported, and
its namespace is made available as the module name immediately.
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On 12/17/2010 11:13 AM, Tim Golden wrote:
On 17/12/2010 15:53, Steve Holden wrote:
[... snip example of for-else ...]
This construct appears to be unpopular in actual use, and when it comes
up in classes and seminars there is always interesting debate as people
discuss potential uses
On 12/16/2010 5:44 AM, BartC wrote:
On 12/12/2010 2:32 PM, Christian Heimes wrote:
Am 12.12.2010 19:31, schrieb Steve Holden:
$ python -m timeit -n20 -- i = 0 while 1: i+=1 if i ==
100: break
20 loops, best of 3: 89.7 msec per loop
$ python -m timeit -n20 -- i = 0 while True
')
3082385472L
id('foo')
3082385472L
Anyone has that kind of code ?
JM
id(foo)
2146743808
id (f+o+o)
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No prerequisites that I could see, and currently they are running a 25%
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to be altered.
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On 12/14/2010 11:52 PM, JohnWShipman wrote:
you
know how us ancient Unix weenies are.
Indeed we do ... ;-)
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behavior and
analysing a process's stdout for messages it arguably needs fixing
anyway, though I agree that breakage of any kind is unfortunate.
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?.
Google for phrases like web services architecture and SOAP WSDL to
get some idea of how these technologies are put together. This assumes,
of course, that you already possess a fair idea of how the web is put
together.
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that really require a Windows environment? If the
loading isn't at brutal levels VirtualBox is a very adequate solution,
and of course Python user VMWare has a full range of industrial-grade
solutions for virtualization.
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of consciousness for
now ;-))
but didn't dare!
Yeah, if Hamlet had been a Python programmer that play would have been a
light comedy.
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On 12/15/2010 12:54 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
So I just got an e-mail from O'Reilly and their School of Technology
about a Python Certification course... anybody have any experience with
this?
It also says Steve Holden is involved -- is this True? (Steve?)
Well, it's not not not False. You
basis.
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Am 15.12.2010 22:11, schrieb Steve Holden:
On 12/15/2010 3:40 PM, Tim Chase wrote:
On a more serious note, it would be interesting to know if it's possible
to test out of the certification for those of us that have been using
Python
a
mutable value, but in that case both C.foo and the method's val
parameter would still be bound to the same object.
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Would you care to quantify how much CPU time that optimization will
typically save for a loop of fair magnitude (say, a billion iterations)?
The difference is minimal but measurable for very tight loops
on an instance.
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(the
__builtins__).
But classes and instances don't have scopes. They have namespaces.
That is, if we are talking about lexical scoping.
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On 12/11/2010 6:46 AM, Lie Ryan wrote:
Also, class scope and instance scope, though similar, are distinct
scopes. Python also have the hidden interpreter-level scope (the
__builtins__).
Kindly ignore my last post. Class scopes are lexical, instance scopes
are not.
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, and not without making the courts free and preventing
knowledge monopolies. If a certain group is going up
disproportionately, then there is something to look at. I see everyone
work as hard as anyone else.
This is completely off-topic for c.l.py. Kindly bugger off.
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answer would be :
bad IDE, change IDE but I'm guessing that others IDE can't do a lot
better in this case.
If you'd told us which IDE you were using we might have offered better
advice, but you seem to want to keep that a secret (my IDE tells us
nothing).
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what you're looking for.
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This is why you don't write your own collision library.
(I once did, for 3D, but that was in 1996, when it was
cutting-edge technology.)
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This behavior is common enough that people need to be aware of it.
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Shed Skin does, but to the extent that iterators
don't raise StopIteration on exhaustion I'd say it is in error.
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On 12/7/2010 1:48 AM, MRAB wrote:
Perhaps Python could use Guido's time machine to check whether the
sequence will yield another object in the future. :-)
Since there's only one time machine that would effectively be a lock
across all Python interpreters.
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pitfalls that people see
in implementing it.
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continue or unwind after the continue returns, but
doing it in a single-threaded system just seems full of hazards.
I seem to remember PL/1 has resumable exceptions, but I don't ever
remember finding a real use for them. And it's so long since I used PL/1
I may be mistaken.
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not be as convenient as modifying a
spreadsheet in place.
In particular, if sh is a spreadsheet then sh.nrows gives you the number
of rows currently used in the sheet.
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attribute for that instance.
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) users to
download your app if it were included.
Just as a matter of interest where do you get the information that the
average user has a 3.9 MB/s path to the Internet?
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conditions arises, in which case (presumably) you
have to return some error code and test for that ...
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that will harm your Python development.
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It turns out that try block are computationally lighter weight (faster)
for normal execution ;-)
Though that alone would hardly be sufficient reason to use them.
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program (from the command line)
its __name__ attribute is set to __main__.
The main() call just calls a function that (presumably) tests the
functions the module provides.
regards
Steve
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Again I'm looking for something simple even it's a few more lines of
codes...or upgrade(?)
Thanks, appreciate any help.
mex9.close()
I'm just as stumped as I was when you first asked this question 13
minutes ago. ;-)
regards
Steve
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():
x, y = sendList()
return [Formatting only {0} into a string.format(x), y]
regards
Steve
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