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real beginner would, or should, ignore any other details not immediately
familiar.
4.7.2 Keyword arguments. It is simply a fact that including the full
discussion here
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With 3.9, exc.py produces for me
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "F:\Python\a\tem3.py", line 3, in f
raise ValueError('hello')
ValueError: hello
During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
Traceback (most r
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The sentence you quoted ends a paragraph that begins with a sentences saying
the same thing even more clearly. "The execution of a function introduces a
new symbol table used for the local variables of the function." I think the
ending sent
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Making str(td) == td.name does not seem useful. I think this should be closed
as 'Not a bug', because it isn't. If changed to an enhancement request, reject
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-17/3 = -5.667 = -6.0 + .333. It is the latter
fraction that gets discarded.
However, this is a frequent source of confusion. How about adding
>>> -17 // 3
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1
>>> -6 * 3 + 1
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to illus
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Tal, I agree with you.
The debugger is an execution controller with an optional current-frame viewer
updated whenever execution is paused. It displays both name and value. I
believe a current PR addresses the issue of value representations being
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bpo-23544: Disable IDLE Stack Viewer when running user code (GH-17163)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/23a567c11ca36eedde0e119443c85cc16075deaf
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Judging from the link you posted to version numbering
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Visual_C%2B%2B#Internal_version_numbering
the first line should have 'MSVC 14.28' the middle column title should be 'MS
Visual Studio'.
Mark Shannon today posted
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9. As of now, values are not named, whereas I believe they are in debugger. IE
given def f(a,b,c): 1/0; f(1,2,3), viewer prints unlaabelled 1, 2, 3 on
separate lines.
Also, the representation of a value may not fit on a line. I believe a current
debugger
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If IDLE were to recalculate the end from start, it would have to more or less
parse forward to find the end of the statement. This is why I considered it a
speculative wish.
> would `end_lineno=None` make any sense?
Only as a kludge if a default w
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The answer, Aviral discovered, is that current ast nodes have end_lineno
attributes, so the patch amounts to consistently copying them.
I don't understand Aviral's use case either, but an item on my IDLE wish list
is to be able to move class and function
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12643 or #12643, then the tracker makes the link -- and strikes it out if
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Ken, for next time -- there is a separate News category for IDLE.
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There are about 40 open PRs with 'idle' or 'idlelib' in title. I only found 2
or 3 with merge conflicts related to this issue -- and they are easy to fix.
There are more conflicts from other patches (some fixed). These are usually
more difficult to fix
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bpo-43013: Fix old tkinter module names in idlelib (GH-24326)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/26af2fae189629d22a87aaf01b92d6f4de92b958
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turtledemo currently requires a couple of modules from idlelib. One to syntax
color examples, another to display the help file. So turtledemo would have to
be patched if IDLE were separate from tkinter
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PR for 3. For 2.x, tkinter comprised several modules that became tkinter
submodules. For 3.0, 'import tkOld' was replaced by 'import tkinter.new as
tkOld', where 'new' is lowercase version of 'Old'. Fix remaining instances of
tkColorChooser, tkFileDialog
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Interesting. I would prefer to make fewer changes per pre-PR branch commit,
but I see from the doc that I could split changes into at least 4 batches from
the existing options. Has this been run/tested on projects better tested than
IDLE? Anyway
7. Run
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bpo-43013: Update idlelib code to 3.x (GH-24315) (#24317)
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bpo-43013: Update idlelib code to 3.x (GH-24315)
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Delete 2. 'list' is needed if for-suite mutates the dict all 6 either directly
or maybe indirectly do so. Not worth checking unless otherwise editing the
function.
6. N unneeded .keys() (out of 13 occurrences) when iterating dict. Low
priority.
First
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5. Extraneous () after class name in class header: 'class name():'. Never done
in idlelib itself, 27 in test files, mostly in 1 file.
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Josh, you are right. I closed the PR. Before closing, I will think about
whether to propose a change to make this more prominent.
I notice the issubclass(array.array, collections.abc.MutableSequence ) is True
even though some of the methods (like clear
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Tal, just so you know in case you see a resulting merge conflict. I've been
waiting for years to do these until most PRs were closed. Has not happened,
and annoyances continue.
Since there is no search option I can find to search for PRs with a merge
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Questions should be asked on Q forums, like python_list.
Check Removed section of What's New in 3.10.
https://docs.python.org/3.10/whatsnew/3.10.html#removed
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Ken, I read on another issue that an exception in an except suite is
automatically linked to the caught exception, though the printed result may not
be exactly the same. Once your CLA is 'activated', I will experiment with the
options
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Andre: with this patch, you could potentially add a function or submodule that
would point sys.excepthook to a function that would print the exception and
then interact before returning. If this worked, one could add, for instance,
'import
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What system, what errors (copy-paste failure blocks)?
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Patrick, I am not sure what you are saying. All the methods listed is this
section are for both, as with
bytes.count(sub[, start[, end]])
bytearray.count(sub[, start[, end]])¶
but only bytearray has .copy (since there is never a need to copy an
immutable
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This should likely be closed as 3rd party
zjdavid Which python release, which macOS, which installer, which tk
patchlevel? (IDLE Help=>About displays it).
At least one of the 3.9.1 python.org mac installers installs 8.6.10. We cannot
be responsi
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
The question in the issue for tokenizer and virtual newlines is mimicking the C
tokenizer versus consistency between and within token 5-tuples.
As a tokenizer user, I would lean toward consistency but it is definitely not
my call.
https://github.com/python
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If I understand correctly, this is open for someone to evaluate Eryk's
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Ken: I will probably work on tests, perhaps as a followup or parallel issue. I
will likely do a bit or refactoring to make testing easier.
I just looked at print_exception and discovered that the double traceback can
likely by handled by properly setting
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Andre: while I would like friendlier tracebacks available in IDLE without 3rd
party installation, I doubt this will happen soon. In the meanwhile, I see
that you are working to polish Friendly Traceback with a friendly contest. I
presume FT uses
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I looked at all 4 hooks.
sys.breakpointhook is invoked by breakpoint() in user code, so is not IDLE's
concern at present.
sys.unraiseablehook is invoked by the interpreter when user code messes up
badly, so is not IDLE's condern. (And it is an expert
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
#33987 was reopened, 4 patches merged and backported, and reclosed.
This is only open for other possible refinements listed above.
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New changeset 644d52818a6391535e5838fd57d58ffcb1163056 by Борис Верховский in
branch 'master':
bpo-40304: Correct type(name, bases, dict) doc (GH-19553)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/644d52818a6391535e5838fd57d58ffcb1163056
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Your Linux result is the same as on Windows. Given strings 'abc' or 'abcd',
ignore 'c' or 'cd' and expand 'ab' to 'abab', making value 0xabab. Is your
computer Ubuntu (implying that personal Ubuntu != CI Ubuntu) or a different
Linux? Are there tk/tcl
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65535 = 35536 - 1 = 256 * 256 - 1 == 255 * 257
On Windows, each r, g, b value is n * 257 for n in range(256) (see attached
file). The precision loss happens when colors are stored, before the division
in winfo_rgb. Perhaps 8 bits/channel (including alpha
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https://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.6/TkCmd/winfo.htm says
"winfo rgb window color
Returns a list containing three decimal values in the range 0 to 65535,
which are the red, green, and blue intensities that correspond to color in the
window given by w
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Mark, would your proposal in PEP-651 fix this case?
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Can you submit a patch, or post here an test_dicom function?
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The parser is not involved here. The transformed code is *not* equivalent to
"1=2; print(1)" because you replace 'a' with the string '1', not the int 1.
The result is to transform
"globals()['a']=2; print(globals()['a'])" to
&quo
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Xinmeng, to verify Ronald's explanation, run this instead
mystr = "hello123"
for x in range(100):
mystr = mystr.__sizeof__()
input('>') # Hit Enter to continue.
del mystr # Expect crash here.
input('<') # And never get here.
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In order to test code.InteractiveCompiler (used by IDLE) and
codeop._maybe_compile (which IC calls), which calls compile() 3 times with mode
'single', I entered the example as 2 or 3 lines in Shell.
>>> [file for str(file) in [] # Error highli
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On Windows, Victor's one liner failed on repository debug builds with Windows'
process error popup. I have seen this mysterious failure at least once when
testing IDLE Shell running on the repository build. After the patch, my debug
build gives
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With a truly minimal but reproducible example, I was able to understand and
experiment. As is, widget creation is done without the event loop running.
Displaying the message box shifts grabs the internal focus but also displays
the unfocused tk window
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New changeset 81f87bbf9f65702062021a78abd9b8f82c98a414 by Terry Jan Reedy in
branch 'master':
bpo-33065: Fix problem debugging user classes with __repr__ method (GH-24183)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/81f87bbf9f65702062021a78abd9b8f82c98a414
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I am reluctant to make changes without adding tests, and until I focused again
on how to do so, because of your ping, I had no idea how to do so.
The added test results in the same error, "AttributeError: 'BinData' object has
no attribute 'length'&quo
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Phillipe: I was the first to comment, but had no futher involvement with this
issue until now. Multiple people, including coredevs, considered the old
behavior to be buggy and multiple people, including coredevs, contributed to
the fix. You are unlikely
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No problem. While your failing example was 'too long', you *did* search and
find the appropriate previous issue, with my inadequate response and incorrect
resolution, even though closed. I appreciate having my understanding fixed.
IDLE uses several entry
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I added this note to #9673 after rereading the posts and the 2010 tkinter list
thread.
"My testing was inadequate. From #42867, it appears that 0. the bug is limited
to Windows; 1. opening a canned dialog or message box is part of getting the
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
My testing was inadequate. From #42867, it appears that 0. the bug is limited
to Windows; 1. opening a canned dialog or message box is part of getting the
buggy behavior; 2. timing is involved; 3. the bug can be exhibited on Windows
directly with wish/tk
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3.7 has not gotten bug fixes for a couple of years. This needs to be verified
on a current release.
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This is related to #42843, which is about deciding what the min sphinx should
be. Since the alternative to 3.2 is some 2.x, 1,8 is certainly wrong.
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The PR says that this deletes "uncalled code". I imagine that this is safe for
a .exe. But for a .dll? As i understand it, one can, from python code, access
any function via ctypes, so it seems to me that there is no way for the linker
to
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I am not familiar with either smtp or email, but I can make some general
comments.
1. "AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_all'" seems pretty
straightforward to me. Hard to debug? Depends on knowledge and experience.
When c
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I closed the following by Xinmeng as duplicates of this:
#42713 eval(...)
#42714 compile(...)
#42715 exec(...)
#42716 ast.parse(...)
This is probably a duplicate of #42609, and should likely be closed also.
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3.7.3 is an old release of an old version. It has already been patched a few
times. If you cannot upgrade to at least the last bugfix release of 3.7, you
are somewhat on your own.
The word 'Killed' in not in the ssl module, so I presume it comes from
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This might be related to #7949, about KDE/GTK dark themes.
In general, IDLE only controls colors for Shell and editor windows, leaving
dialogs to system default. This appears to be true for the settings and search
dialogs. 'About' is unusual in having some
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New changeset a087a97438e922fcace357ff4c29806ff65838d8 by Terry Jan Reedy in
branch '3.8':
[3.8] bpo-32631: IDLE: Enable zzdummy example extension module (GH-14491)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/a087a97438e922fcace357ff4c29806ff65838d8
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prompted me to finish this enough to merge it.
My intention was that in the absence of a selection, all lines should be
prefixed, not just the current
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I believe that this issue is done. Please open a new one if more is needed.
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New changeset d05b470d6ad6dfe0d4933ffc3c5c1e2c03b390bd by Miss Islington (bot)
in branch '3.8':
bpo-42508: Keep IDLE running on macOS (GH-23577) (#23670)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/d05b470d6ad6dfe0d4933ffc3c5c1e2c03b390bd
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New changeset e40e2a2cc94c554e7e245a8ca5a7432d31a95766 by Cheryl Sabella in
branch 'master':
bpo-32631: IDLE: Enable zzdummy example extension module (GH-14491)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/e40e2a2cc94c554e7e245a8ca5a7432d31a95766
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>From the evidence presented, the problem building 3.8 on Win 10 is not with
>our build code. I therefore believe that this should be closed as '3rd-party'
>and that Sunny should inquire on python-list about the permission problem.
>Howev
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Change by Terry J. Reedy :
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nosy: +serhiy.storchaka
versions: -Python 3.7
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Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
"Enhancements" (non-bugfix feature changes) can only be applied to future
versions. However, you are asking for the reversion of an intentional feature
change made in a 'bugfix' release# for (I believe) 3.1. Before the change, as
I remember,
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