I amd using 32-bit Python 3.13 on Windows 11.
I am writing a server that talks to a Pervasive database using asyncio
and aioodbc.
I run it from the command prompt.
I notice it is very slow to shutdown (just over 3 seconds).
Perhaps not important in real life use, but an irritation during
Dear All,
I started a project on accommodating combinatory logic into python
Below are my primary efforts
https://github.com/mwalmasri/stcl_interpreter
Best regards,
Walid
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On 23/04/2026 11:22, MRAB wrote:
On 22/04/2026 23:17, johnnyrebel0801--- via Python-list wrote:
Hi, this is John Quinn and I'm new on this board. I live down in
Ottawa, Illinois.
I'm interested in learning Python so that I can apply it to help in
modernizing mainframe legacy systems
On 22/04/2026 23:17, johnnyrebel0801--- via Python-list wrote:
Hi, this is John Quinn and I'm new on this board. I live down in Ottawa,
Illinois.
I'm interested in learning Python so that I can apply it to help in modernizing
mainframe legacy systems. I worked as a PL/1 Applications
Hi, this is John Quinn and I'm new on this board. I live down in Ottawa,
Illinois.
I'm interested in learning Python so that I can apply it to help in modernizing
mainframe legacy systems. I worked as a PL/1 Applications Programmer at State
Farm Systems for 13 years using IMS Databa
On 28/03/2026 04:59, DFS wrote:
On 3/25/2026 9:40 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
So Python 3.15 will introduce a new, “lazy” import mechanism
<https://peps.python.org/pep-0810/>.
So far I have done one script where I moved an import into the
function where it was used, instead of do
On 3/17/2026 2:33 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
python_linuxfs <https://gitlab.com/ldo/python_linuxfs> is a set of
Python modules providing higher-level wrappers around various
Linux-specific system APIs. Some of these already have support in the
“os” module in the standard Python librar
Thanks all.
For all variations:
R: R:\\ R:/ and, if logged into the R drive, R:.
os.scandir returns the same error;
pathlib.Path.walk returns an empty iterator.
Best,
Rob
On 02/04/2026 08:09, dn via Python-list wrote:
Rob,
(apologies for delay - message stuck in queue)
On 31/03
Rob,
(apologies for delay - message stuck in queue)
On 31/03/2026 00:31, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote:
I am using Python 3.13 and Windows 11.
I have a RAM disk (ImDisk), configured to be the R: drive.
When the RAM disc is empty,
os.scandir("R:")
raises a FileNotFoundError
PyMovie and PyOTE from IOTA require Anaconda Python 3.8+ (not system Python) on
Windows, and the BAT files they generate must run from the Anaconda environment
where Python is found—regular CMD won't locate it. The Microsoft Store redirect
happens due to Windows app aliases; disable the
often (always?) contain
hidden files or directories.
Best
Rob Cliffe
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I am using Python 3.13 and Windows 11.
I have a RAM disk (ImDisk), configured to be the R: drive.
When the RAM disc is empty,
os.scandir("R:")
raises a FileNotFoundError instead of (as I would have expected)
returning an empty iterator.
Whereas for an empty directory on a har
read_string (fixed_lines)' instead.
But is there a simple way for all this?
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On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 at 14:13, DFS via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 3/25/2026 9:40 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>
> > So Python 3.15 will introduce a new, “lazy” import mechanism
> > <https://peps.python.org/pep-0810/>.
> >
> > So far I have done one
Hello python, I downloaded some python scripts pymovie and pyote from
iota and followed instructions to get the older version of python to run on
my windows 11 machine. If I run python from cmd line it jumps to a store
window for python installation. If I hit start and run python from there
it
ar 27, 2026, 4:33 PM Thomas Passin wrote:
> On 3/27/2026 2:09 PM, Piergiorgio Sartor wrote:
> > On 26/03/2026 02.40, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> >> So Python 3.15 will introduce a new, “lazy” import mechanism
> >> <https://peps.python.org/pep-0810/>.
> >>
>
On 3/25/2026 9:40 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
So Python 3.15 will introduce a new, “lazy” import mechanism
<https://peps.python.org/pep-0810/>.
So far I have done one script where I moved an import into the
function where it was used, instead of doing it globally; this reduced
the
ow you'll see
it. And, in your specific case is meaningless, as you've got a
perfectly detailed signature already.
Traditionally, the arguments for constructor, in Python, used to be
described in the doc string of the type, not the constructor. So, in
case you request the help for the construc
On 2026-03-16, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Jon Ribbens wrote or quoted:
>> I don't know why it says "type(self)",
>>because help(foo) where 'foo' is an instance of a class 'xyz'
>>seems to display the same as help(xyz) a
regardless, it's all irrelevant in the case of your specific
example gpiod.line_settings.LineSettings because as well as
__init__ not having a docstring, the class itself doesn't have
a docstring either. So there is nothing to display no matter what
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te a hot mess. I forget which of the C
people said if he'd foreseen how macros would be abused they wouldn't have
been included in the language.
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could spy on what they did. They wouldn't just tell me. If I was helpful
they would ask me to do stuff, invest some time in explaining stuff to me.
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You can check classes and methods in Python by using the built-in introspection
tools. dir(obj) shows the available attributes and methods, help(obj) shows the
documentation for an object, and help(obj.method) shows details for one method.
If you want to see the parameters of a callable
results with https://dnsrobot.net/spf-checker
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art to an external program
s.a. dig is going to improve performance, since, in principle, the I/O
is the most expensive part. Python is slow, but not slow enough to
compete for the root cause of performance degradation here, so, might
as well use it, if that's convenient to you.
On
ion
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wo paired
> >comments sometimes disagreed on what was being done or how it was done.
> >
>
> A man with one clock knows what time it is. A man with two is never
> quite sure...
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> The bad news? I knew enough German to be able to tell that the two paired
> comments sometimes disagreed on what was being done or how it was done.
>
> That's pretty funny.
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conversation or async
> exchange?
>
> 🔗 Repository: https://github.com/netanelcyber/penuX
> 💬 Discussion: https://github.com/netanelcyber/penuX/discussions/11
>
> Thank you for your time and for the foundational work your group has
> contributed to clinical NLP.
>
>
rst line above, and
then immediately os.chdir(this_directory) which will make all open()
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On 2/27/26 3:34 PM, Em wrote:
> So, the answer is to hardwire the code, stopping it from
> being portable, yes?
That is one answer, yes. But as I said there are other options.
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Hi there,
I am new to open source contributions. I have 4+ years of experience
working in AI/ML space. However I want to help build the next python by
contributing as well as increase my understanding of this language.
Wish me luck!!
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t; I now want to run the program in Win 11.
> As in Win 10, F5 from an editor, it gives me the present path but when I
> double-click on the program in the folder, it gives me some system path on
> the C drive.
I thought we went through all this with you in December where thought
there was a
Thomas. Good evening.
I have posted a reference from RFC 4622.
On Tue, 24 Feb 2026 09:51:18 -0500
Thomas Passin wrote:
> On 2/24/2026 2:00 AM, Schimon Jehudah via Python-list wrote:
> > Greetings.
> >
> > I am interested at advisory as to how to handle XMPP URI links.
Greetings.
I am interested at advisory as to how to handle XMPP URI links.
This is how module "urllib" handles this type of URI.
urlparse
from urllib.parse import urlparse
urlparse("xmpp:pubsub.python.i2p?;node=xmpp-python-news")
ParseResult(
scheme='x
def __getitem__(self, key=None):
if key is None: return self.items[0]
return self.items[key]
myitemsobject[] -> item #0 or custom
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ledge and understanding, and it's very rare that you can
claim some total results, like X is faster than Y (in every possible
situation). Think about it being as difficult as it is in math to find
totality proofs (i.e. that P(x) for all X in (some large, usually
infinite set)).
Finally, retriev
This looks like a very personal use case. I think that’s exactly the point of
why scripting languages like Python have become so popular: they let anyone
quickly and easily write a simple tool tailored to their own needs, improving
their workflow. Even if such tools don’t necessarily help other
On 1/27/2026 4:02 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2026 13:28:24 -0500, DFS wrote:
Here's some Python code I wrote to capture file metadata (name,
location, date created, date modified, and size) in a SQLite
database.
I would consider this a waste of time. There are al
s required).
* self.loop.run_forever()
* asyncio.get_event_loop().run_forever()
https://slixmpp.readthedocs.io/en/latest/using_asyncio.html
After updating to Python 3.14 version, the XMPP service fails to start.
See attached error message.
I tried several variations of different directives
Body:
Hello Python enthusiasts,
I’m working on penuX, a project focused on applying AI to clinical ICU data
from patients diagnosed with pneumonia. As part of this competitive
project, we’ve identified an issue affecting model performance and data
processing, and we’ve opened a GitHub issue to
Greetings.
I have recently updated to Python 3.14 version.
Change of code of async loop
Now, in order to start an async task, I have to change this code.
loop = asyncio.get_event_loop()
loop.create_task(SlixfeedServiceIpc.server())
To this code.
loop
It’s *January 8, 2026*, Raghav. You have arrived at the perfect time. The
Google Summer of Code (GSoC) 2026 cycle is officially kicking off *this
month*.
Since you are a 2nd-year student learning Python, Linux, and Git, you are
in a "prime" position to secure a slot if you act now. He
sting automation and Linux
utilities, which aligns perfectly with your interest in Python and Linux.
1. Beginner-Friendly Paths in penuX
If you are looking at the netanelcyber/penuX repo, here is how you should
start:
* The "Script to Tool" Transition: Many scripts in the repo are
Python-b
research-oriented Python project that predicts likely pathogens
from patient vital signs (such as temperature, WBC, and SpO₂), producing
ordered probability outputs rather than a single hard classification. The
project already includes prediction scripts, tests, and CI, but the
workflow is not yet
Am Tue, Jan 06, 2026 at 06:52:10PM +0100 schrieb Karsten Hilbert via
Python-list:
> One worthwhile project might be to improve the GNUmed
> package
https://www.gnumed.de/documentation that is.
Karsten
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> get familiar with the Python community and open-source contribution practices.
>
> I am preparing for Google Summer of Code
Hello everyone,
My name is Raghav, I am a B.Tech,2nd year student from India currently learning
Python, Linux, and Git. I have recently joined this mailing list to get
familiar with the Python community and open-source contribution practices.
I am preparing for Google Summer of Code 2026 and
On 2025-12-31, Bill Deegan wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2025 at 8:47 PM Keith Thompson wrote:
>
>> When I build Python from source, the "sudo make install" step
>> creates root-owned files in the build directory. I have not seen
>> this while building other open-
Keith Thompson writes:
> When I build Python from source, the "sudo make install" step
> creates root-owned files in the build directory. I have not seen
> this while building other open-source packages from source.
>
> Is there a way to avoid this, so no root-owned
It would be also useful to gain interest and attention of a concern.
Schimon
On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 10:05:32 +
[email protected] wrote:
> Thanks.
>
> Am 31.12.2025 04:16 schrieb Lulika Vith via Python-list:
> > Thank you for teaching me this practical Vim trick. In the past
= line("'<")
let l:end_line = line("'>")
if l:start_line > l:end_line
let l:tmp = l:start_line
let l:start_line = l:end_line
let l:end_line = l:tmp
endif
if &filetype ==# 'python'
let l:begin = '""&q
When I build Python from source, the "sudo make install" step
creates root-owned files in the build directory. I have not seen
this while building other open-source packages from source.
Is there a way to avoid this, so no root-owned files are creates
other than under the target in
On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 at 01:57, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
>
> On 2025-12-29 22:50:41 +1100, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Dec 2025 at 22:47, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> > > As for the error message, I agree that "SyntaxError: invalid syntax" is
>
Peter. Good afternoon.
On Mon, 29 Dec 2025 10:54:33 +0100
"Peter J. Holzer" wrote:
> On 2025-12-29 11:28:27 +0200, Schimon Jehudah via Python-list wrote:
> > Greetings, one and all.
> >
> > I am experimenting with module argparse.
> >
> > I would
This is also so with "import".
VARIABLE.import
Schimon
On Mon, 29 Dec 2025 22:50:41 +1100
Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Dec 2025 at 22:47, Peter J. Holzer
> wrote:
> > As for the error message, I agree that "SyntaxError: invalid
> >
On Mon, 29 Dec 2025 at 22:47, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> As for the error message, I agree that "SyntaxError: invalid syntax" is
> a pretty uninformative message. Python error messages in general have
> become very good over the last few years, so that feels like a bit of a
>
Chris and Lulika.
Thank you for your help.
Would not it be appropriate by argparse to deny (i.e. raise an error)
attempts to allocate a reserved keyword as destnation (i.e. "dest")?
Regards,
Schimon
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Yes—the answer to the problem is right there in the question itself. Please
avoid using Python reserved keywords such as class as identifiers. Your
argparse code has in fact worked correctly: it successfully created an
attribute named class on the args object, but you cannot access it using dot
On Mon, 29 Dec 2025 at 20:40, Schimon Jehudah via Python-list
wrote:
> (Pdb) args.class
> *** SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> (Pdb)
>
You can use getattr(args, "class") if you like (this works for all
objects). But it's probably easier to dodge the issue by changing the
Greetings, one and all.
I am experimenting with module argparse.
I would be glad to know of your opinions about this concern.
Notice dest="class".
Python software
---
from argparse import ArgumentParser
parser = ArgumentParser(description="Slixfeed OSTN new
On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 at 03:19, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
>
> On 2025-12-21 23:59:48 +1100, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 at 23:31, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> > > There is the concept of "pythonic" Code (just like there is a concept of
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 at 23:31, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> There is the concept of "pythonic" Code (just like there is a concept of
> idiomatic code in (almost) any language), but if you ask 100 randomly
> chosen Python programmers whether the use of += is pythonic, I doubt
> th
AI Generated Usenet Client in Python
If you have any improvements to this or helpful ideas I would like to see them.
https://github.com/alt-magick/Newsgroup-Client-/
#!/usr/bin/env python3
import nntplib
import sys
import termios
import tty
import re
import quopri
import base64
from
Can someone please guide me towards java mailing list?
I want to know how javadoc commenting works. Due to some reasons I can't
access browsers.
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lit toggle
Since I do have window borders, the split direction will be visible (a
light shade of blue border versus a subdued one. I am quite happy with
it. You might give it a try.
Best regards
Axel
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a form of (technical) documentation
and a guide for use?
If start from the spec/user story (perhaps as a README.md in tests/) and
reproduce appropriate sections (as comments/docstrings, hah!) in each
test file, then will all flow-through?
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No chatbot involved. I was typing this on my phone in bed last night and
didn't have a Python interpreter handy that I could verify this with. I
will certainly check this.
In any case, since verifying that a valid choice was made was made is done
in the same IF statement as the check for
On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 at 18:01, c186282 wrote:
>Oh, I usually write "i=i+2". It's a bit more
>clear and becomes the same code anyway. +=
>is more a 'C' thing.
As are semicolons and /* */ comments.
ChrisA
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e
print("Invalid choice...")
else:
If player_choice[0].lower() == "q":
print("Thanks for playing. Good-bye.")
break
# code to score the choices, blah, blah, blah
Good luck with your new version!
On Mon, Dec 8, 20
Lawrence D’Oliveiro writes:
> On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 12:57:57 +, mm0fmf wrote:
>
>> On 14 Dec 2025 11:56:42 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>>> My issues with python are:
>>> - It's using indentations, so when I comment a block of code to see
>
On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 at 10:33, Left Right via Python-list
wrote:
> No. Again. This is not your place. Not anyone else's to suggest users
> switch their editor to anything else. What you do is just being a jerk
> by not admitting the problem with Python and blaming it on the user.
> Well the fact is an editor that does not automate indenting blocks to
> one degree or another will make Python much more difficult to learn and
> use, and his experience with Python will not be positive. The editor
> not making Python indenting easy to manage is in reality the
On 16/12/2025 21:12, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
Nobody should be encouraged to change their editor. Neither do you
know why the person chose the editor they chose, nor do you actually
help in solving the problem the person has.
Yes, starting from what the Learner knows, and moving
On 12/16/25 1:12 AM, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
> Nobody should be encouraged to change their editor. Neither do you
> know why the person chose the editor they chose, nor do you actually
> help in solving the problem the person has.
Well the fact is an editor that does not
Hi.
I am currently facing issues compiling Python 3.14.2 on my RHEL 8 server. It
seems to relate to the --enable-optimizations argument. If I build with out the
--enable-optimizations it is finalizing the build, but with the argument, it
segfaults during the "test_functools"
./con
Nobody should be encouraged to change their editor. Neither do you
know why the person chose the editor they chose, nor do you actually
help in solving the problem the person has.
To try to answer to the substance of the complaint about
indentation-driven structure: when Python was created, the
Any decent programming editor will have a facility for selecting a group
of lines and adding/removing the appropriate commenting characters.
(If your editor doesn't have that, then by definition it's not decent. :-)
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On 14/12/2025 23:29, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On 14 Dec 2025 11:56:42 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
My issues with python are:
- It's using indentations, so when I comment a block of code to see
''' and ''' are your friend
And maybe stop using edlin
Thanks for the recommendations. I'm building a whole new version based on the
old one, with simpler code and functions to find win stats.
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Thanks for the tip. I'll do that here and in future games.
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input("Welcome to Rock, Paper, Scissors. To begin,
choose Rock, Paper, or Scissors. ")
if player_choice == ROCK:
break
if player_choice == PAPER:
break
if player_choice == SCISSORS:
...
The advantage of this approach is misspellings generate compilation errors,
which are easier to catch and fix.
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Ah! Found it. I had an extra space in "Rock". Thanks for the help!
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On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 at 05:29, via Python-list wrote:
>
> I coded Rock, Paper, Scissors. I added the randomness, made it loop at the
> user's request, added win code, no problems there. I changed some strings to
> F-strings to practice using them, and now the first "elif&quo
t;)
print(f"Choice: {choice}")
print(f"You played: {player_choice}")
playagain = True
while playagain == True:
ask_repeat = input("Play again? Y/N ")
if ask_repeat == "Y":
print("Restarting... ")
repeat = True
playagain = False
elif ask_repeat == "N":
repeat = False
playagain = False
print("Goodbye.")
else:
playagain = True
repeat = False
print("Error. Input either Y or N. Capitalize and retry.")
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On 12/7/25 3:03 AM, Em wrote:
> So, is this a change from WIN10?
Maybe. It could be a change in the pylauncher. Or a change in how
Windows starts pylauncher. It could be a difference between the versino
of Python Microsoft puts in the store vs the python.org package. It
could be a change in
in.
> Irrespective of anything else that's going on, that's not my experience.
> I just tried, and double-clicking a python script makes the directory
> that I have open in Explorer the current directory. I've seen the same
> not just with scripts but also with executa
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gmane So I use a custom hacked inews replacement that e-mails posts to
this list instead of sending them via NNTP/gmane like it does for all
of the more friendly lists.
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Hello,
Am 07.12.2025 um 15:36 schrieb Em:
-Original Message-
From: Roel Schroeven
Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2025 7:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: A switch somewhere, or bug? CORRECTION
Op 7/12/2025 om 1:54 schreef Thomas Passin:
As I explained in my last post, that&#
On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 11:06:21 -0500 Em wrote:
>Two computers, both alike in dignity, in fair windows land...
>
>in Win10/Python 3.13 my program runs as well as can be expected. However, on
>my new computer Win11/Python 3.14.1 there is a peculiarity.
>
>On the new machine, when I
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 at 18:22, Michael Torrie wrote:
>
> On Sat, Dec 6, 2025, 00:04 Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 at 15:52, Michael Torrie via Python-list
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 12/5/25 6:36 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
&
On Sat, Dec 6, 2025, 00:04 Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 at 15:52, Michael Torrie via Python-list
> wrote:
> >
> > On 12/5/25 6:36 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> > > On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 at 12:33, Michael Torrie via Python-list
> >
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 at 15:52, Michael Torrie via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 12/5/25 6:36 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> > On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 at 12:33, Michael Torrie via Python-list
> > wrote:
> >> Starter = open("HLYlog.txt","w");
>
On 12/5/25 6:36 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 at 12:33, Michael Torrie via Python-list
> wrote:
>> Starter = open("HLYlog.txt","w");
>> filepath = Starter.name
>
> Isn't that just...
>
> filepath = "H
On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 at 12:33, Michael Torrie via Python-list
wrote:
> Starter = open("HLYlog.txt","w");
> filepath = Starter.name
Isn't that just...
filepath = "HLYlog.txt"
?
ChrisA
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