Re: Use the Source Luke

2011-01-29 Thread rusi
On Jan 30, 9:21 am, Steven D'Aprano steve +comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: I think this is a fairly accurate description of (one aspect of) the problem. If you dont see it as a problem how do you explain that google can search the World Wide Web better than we can search our

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-28 Thread rusi
On Jan 27, 10:47 pm, Grant Edwards inva...@invalid.invalid wrote: So you're saying that you don't see any value in easing communication, nor presumably in communication itself? A Goedel-ian meta-recursion problem here Grant: You want to communicate the need for communication to one who does

Re: Use the Source Luke

2011-01-28 Thread rusi
On Jan 29, 4:10 am, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Note that Raymond is speaking specifically in the context of free software, where the license is by definition permitting free redistribution of the source code. It is an obvious necessary condition that for code to be opened it

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-27 Thread rusi
On Jan 27, 11:45 pm, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote: When has Octavian been uncivil? This lecture of Octavian is ludicris! You are such a friendly totalitarian, how do you keep a strait face -- Col. Hans Landa? And this mutual 'support' between Octavian and Ranter is ludicris(sic)

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread rusi
On Jan 26, 11:18 am, Octavian Rasnita orasn...@gmail.com wrote: From: rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com On Jan 25, 3:41 pm, Corey Richardson kb1...@aim.com wrote: Do you honestly think he was talking about the accessibility problem? IMO that should move to another thread, because this one

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread rusi
On Jan 27, 12:02 am, Nicholas Devenish misno...@gmail.com wrote: Heck, I am probably wasting my time with this post; but you come across as genuine in your held central beliefs, and so either serious or the most dedicated and adept troll I have ever encountered. In the case of the former, I

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread rusi
On Jan 27, 3:35 am, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 26, 3:48 pm, Grant Edwards inva...@invalid.invalid wrote: People will not separate your personality from the cause you espouse. You may not like it, but that's a fact.  If you are in favor of XYZ, and act rude and

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-25 Thread rusi
Just trying to sift the BS from the real issues Heres a list of the issues relating to GUI toolkits Look Nativity-1 (as in apps look like other apps on the OS) Nativity-2 (as in uses 'bare-metal' and not a separate interpreter) Themeing (ttk) Efficiency (extra interpreter) Cross Platform

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-25 Thread rusi
On Jan 25, 11:15 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: On 1/25/2011 10:29 AM, rusi wrote: Just trying to sift the BS from the real issues Heres a list of the issues relating to GUI toolkits Look Nativity-1 (as in apps look like other apps on the OS) Nativity-2 (as in uses 'bare

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-23 Thread rusi
On Jan 23, 5:07 am, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote: WxPython versus Tkinter (A code battle to the death!) by Rick Johnson. I have in many threads declared that Tkinter (and TclTk) is currently --and has been for a decade-- the wrong choice for Python's stdlib GUI. Throughout the

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-23 Thread rusi
On Jan 24, 9:16 am, Littlefield, Tyler ty...@tysdomain.com wrote:  PS: Be sure not to cause any segfaults because these linux folks can't  debug for shite! Or maybe it is that the person fighting and throwing insults around like candy at a parade can't code for shite. Or *gasp* the library

Re: HTSQL 2.0 RC1 -- a Query Language for the Accidental Programmer

2011-01-22 Thread rusi
On Jan 22, 10:20 pm, Kirill Simonov x...@gamma.dn.ua wrote: On 01/22/2011 12:25 AM, rusi wrote: On Jan 22, 2:45 am, Clark C. Evansc...@clarkevans.com  wrote: Kirill Simonov and myself would like to introduce HTSQL, a novel approach to relational database access which is neither an ORM nor

Re: HTSQL 2.0 RC1 -- a Query Language for the Accidental Programmer

2011-01-21 Thread rusi
On Jan 22, 2:45 am, Clark C. Evans c...@clarkevans.com wrote: Kirill Simonov and myself would like to introduce HTSQL, a novel approach to relational database access which is neither an ORM nor raw SQL. : We're curious what you think. Thanks -- looks interesting. Given the claim htsql is

Re: Tkinter: The good, the bad, and the ugly!

2011-01-20 Thread rusi
On Jan 20, 5:30 pm, Bill Felton subscripti...@cagttraining.com wrote: With some hesitation, I feel a need to jump in here.   This thread is now at 239 posts (and so I too hesitate...) The arguments for size, dependencies etc are what may be termed 'sys- ad' perspectives. The questions of 'it

Re: Tkinter: The good, the bad, and the ugly!

2011-01-17 Thread rusi
On Jan 18, 4:13 am, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 17, 4:47 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: On 1/16/2011 11:20 PM, rantingrick wrote: Ok, try this...      http://juicereceiver.sourceforge.net/screenshots/index.php      

Re: Added Python, WSGI to XAMPP

2010-12-13 Thread rusi
On Dec 10, 2:29 am, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: If you have any need of a portable LAMP stack, I just finished writing some How-To's for getting Python, VirtualEnv and WSGI frameworks running with XAMPP: How-To: Add VirtualEnv and Pylons (WSGI framework) to XAMPP

Re: class browser

2010-12-12 Thread rusi
On Dec 8, 11:24 pm, Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org wrote: On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 13:18 +0530, Rustom Mody wrote: If I have a medium to large python code base to browse/study, what are the class browsers available? Monodevelop has good Python support which includes a working

[issue10685] trace does nto ignore --ignore-module

2010-12-12 Thread Rusi
New submission from Rusi rustompm...@gmail.com: When running trace, I get a a lot of lines like: filename: /usr/lib/python2.7/cmd.py, modulename: cmd, funcname: Cmd That is to say system modules are shown in the trace whereas I only want to see the code I am working on Ive tried python2.7 -m

Re: Deprecation warnings (2.7 - 3 )

2010-12-10 Thread rusi
On Dec 10, 9:17 pm, nn prueba...@latinmail.com wrote: On Dec 9, 10:15 pm, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote: In trying to get from 2.x to 3 Terry suggested I use 2.7 with deprecation warnings Heres the (first) set DeprecationWarning: Overriding __eq__ blocks inheritance of __hash__

Re: trace cmd line args in 2.7

2010-12-10 Thread rusi
On Dec 10, 10:53 am, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote: Ive installed python 2.7 And trace still ignores my ignore-module etc requests Is this a know bug with the trace module? I find it hard to believe that as traces naturally tend to get huge unless carefully trimmed -- http://mail.python.org

[issue10669] Remove Deprecation Warnings

2010-12-10 Thread Rusi
Rusi rustompm...@gmail.com added the comment: Hi Eric Sorry for not being clear. This is more of a feature request than a bug report as suggested by Terry Reedy on the python mailing list (see here http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-December/1262149.html The warnings are in my

Re: trace cmd line args

2010-12-09 Thread rusi
On Dec 9, 1:39 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: On 12/9/2010 1:10 AM, rusi wrote: I am unable to get trace to not trace system modules. Try it with 3.2b1, just released. Multiple bugs were fixed in trace. Some fixes might also be in recent 2.7.1 and 3.1.3. Not sure. -- Terry Jan

Re: trace cmd line args

2010-12-09 Thread rusi
On Dec 9, 9:03 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: On 12/9/2010 7:12 AM, rusi wrote: On Dec 9, 1:39 pm, Terry Reedytjre...@udel.edu  wrote: On 12/9/2010 1:10 AM, rusi wrote: I am unable to get trace to not trace system modules. Try it with 3.2b1, just released. Multiple bugs were

Re: trace cmd line args

2010-12-09 Thread rusi
On Dec 9, 10:37 pm, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 9, 9:03 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: On 12/9/2010 7:12 AM, rusi wrote: On Dec 9, 1:39 pm, Terry Reedytjre...@udel.edu  wrote: On 12/9/2010 1:10 AM, rusi wrote: I am unable to get trace to not trace system

Deprecation warnings (2.7 - 3 )

2010-12-09 Thread rusi
In trying to get from 2.x to 3 Terry suggested I use 2.7 with deprecation warnings Heres the (first) set DeprecationWarning: Overriding __eq__ blocks inheritance of __hash__ in 3.x DeprecationWarning: callable() not supported in 3.x; use isinstance(x, collections.Callable) Is there one

[issue10669] Remove Deprecation Warnings

2010-12-09 Thread Rusi
New submission from Rusi rustompm...@gmail.com: I am trying to port some app from 2.x to 3.x Terry Reedy suggested using 2.7 I get deprecation warnings (with -3 flag) I would be good to have a place to check all such and have suggested solutions -- components: 2to3 (2.x to 3.0

trace cmd line args

2010-12-08 Thread rusi
I am unable to get trace to not trace system modules. I tried: $ python -m trace --listfuncs tt.py --ignore-module 'bdb' tracefile $ python -m trace --listfuncs --ignore-dir /usr/lib/python2.6 tt.py tracefile and many other combinations But anyhow my tracefile contains lines like this:

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