info failed')': /simple/pandas/
WARNING: Retrying (Retry(total=2, connect=None, read=None, redirect=None,
status=None)) after connection broken by
'NewConnectionError(': Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno 11001]
getaddrinfo failed')': /simple/pandas/
Thanks,
Fady
Olá, comunidade do Python!
Meu nome é Victor Dib, e sou um estudante brasileiro de programação.
Já entrei em contato com vocês hoje, e vocês solicitaram que eu me inscrevesse
na lista de e-mails de vocês primeiro. Bom, isso já foi feito, então espero que
agora vocês possam dar atenção ao meu
Hey there,
After successfully installing Python 3.8.2(64 bit) on my system(windows 10
64 bit OS), my idle is not opening. I've tried uninstalling and
reinstalling it again but still the same result.
Looking forward to a fix please.
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What is the recommended format for --log-level (or --loglevel?) command line
option?
Is it a number or NOTSET|DEBUG|INFO|WARNING|ERROR|CRITICAL?
Or should I accept both numbers and these string constants?
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On Saturday, September 22, 2018 at 12:20:08 PM UTC-7, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> On 22/09/2018 20:18, Victor via Python-list wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 22, 2018 at 6:22:32 AM UTC-7, Peter Otten wrote:
> >> Victor via Python-list wrote:
> >>
> >>> Let me
On Saturday, September 22, 2018 at 6:22:32 AM UTC-7, Peter Otten wrote:
> Victor via Python-list wrote:
>
> > Let me use a different input args and display them below. Basically, I am
> > hoping to add up all elements of each nested list. So at first it should
> > start
Let me use a different input args and display them below. Basically, I am
hoping to add up all elements of each nested list. So at first it should start
with [1,11,111] ==> 1+11+111 = 123. But instead, it appears to take the 1st
element from each nested list to add up [1,2,3] = 6. How shoul
e objects of this class.
What is more pythonic?
1. Create its subclass PredicateParserWithError and add the additional field
on_error to this class.
2. Add on_error field to the base class, setting it to None by default, if
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First, I've already solved my problem using setuptools and
pkg_resources.resource_stream() and an environment variable to specify the
path to data files.
Ben Finney wrote:
> Victor Porton writes:
>
>> In GNU software written in C $srcdir and $datadir are accessible to
In GNU software written in C $srcdir and $datadir are accessible to C code
through generated config.h file.
What is the right way to config directories for a Python program?
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dieter wrote:
> Victor Porton writes:
>
>> I am writing a library, a command line utility which uses the library,
>> and a I am going to use dependency_injector package.
>>
>> Consider loggers:
>>
>> For the core library the logger should default to
Victor Porton wrote:
> I want to write a multiuser application which uses multiple languages (one
> language for logging and a language per user).
>
> https://docs.python.org/3/library/gettext.html describes a procedural
> gettext interface. The language needs to be switched befo
ecution_context_build, or maybe in something
like xmlboiler.core.providers.execution_context?
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above
example).
What is the best way to do this?
Should I write an object-oriented wrapper around gettext package?
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library.
For the server, the log should go to a file (not to stderr).
Question: How to profoundly make my software to use the appropriate logger,
dependently on whether it is a command line utility or the daemon?
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Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 5:57:58 PM UTC+13, Victor Porton wrote:
>> I meant to call poll() from C code, not Python code.
>
> Do you need to use C code at all? Python is quite capable of handling this
> <https://docs.python.org/3/lib
Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 8:10:24 AM UTC+13, Victor Porton wrote:
>> Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> The usual behaviour for POSIX is that the call is aborted with EINTR
>>> after you get the signal.
>>
>> T
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 20:58:56 +0200, Victor Porton
> declaimed the following:
>
>>LibComCom is a C library which passes a string as stdin of an OS command
>>and stores its stdout in another string.
>>
>>I wrote this library recen
wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
> Le mercredi 31 janvier 2018 20:13:06 UTC+1, Chris Angelico a écrit :
>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 5:58 AM, Victor Porton wrote:
>> > LibComCom is a C library which passes a string as stdin of an OS
>> > command and stores its stdout in anoth
Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 5:58 AM, Victor Porton wrote:
>> LibComCom is a C library which passes a string as stdin of an OS command
>> and stores its stdout in another string.
>
> Something like the built-in subprocess module does?
I was going to
Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 9:55:45 PM UTC+13, Victor Porton wrote:
>> Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 8:58:18 PM UTC+13, Victor Porton
>>> wrote:
>>>> For this reason I
>>&g
Traceback (most recent call last):
Segmentation fault
(here libcomcom.so is installed in /usr/local/lib)
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Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 8:58:18 PM UTC+13, Victor Porton wrote:
>> For this reason I
>> cannot use Python signals because "A Python signal handler does not get
>> executed inside the low-level (C) signal handler. Instead, the low-le
Victor Porton wrote:
> I need to assign a real C signal handler to SIGINT.
>
> This handler may be called during poll() waiting for data. For this reason
> I cannot use Python signals because "A Python signal handler does not get
> executed inside the low-level (C) signal h
dler).
Is this possible? How?
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Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 6:13:00 PM UTC+13, Victor Porton wrote:
>> I am going to create a Python wrapper around a generally useful C
>> library. So the wrapper needs to contain some C code to glue them
>> together.
>
> Not neces
I am going to create a Python wrapper around a generally useful C library.
So the wrapper needs to contain some C code to glue them together.
Can I upload a package containing C sources to PyPi?
If not, what is the proper way to distribute it?
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I need the triangle to be in reverse. The assignment requires a nested loop to
generate a triangle with the user input of how many lines.
Currently, I get answers such as: (A)
OOO
OO
O
When I actually need it to be like this: (B)
OOO
OO
O
I need the display (A) to
On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 12:28:45 PM UTC-4, Victor Demelo wrote:
> I need the triangle to be in reverse. The assignment requires a nested loop
> to generate a triangle with the user input of how many lines.
>
> Currently, I get answers such as:
>
> OOO
> OO
> O
&
On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 12:28:45 PM UTC-4, Victor Demelo wrote:
> I need the triangle to be in reverse. The assignment requires a nested loop
> to generate a triangle with the user input of how many lines.
>
> Currently, I get answers such as:
>
> OOO
> OO
> O
&
d
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I need the triangle to be in reverse. The assignment requires a nested loop to
generate a triangle with the user input of how many lines.
Currently, I get answers such as:
OOO
OO
O
When I actually need it to be like this:
OOO
OO
O
I just need to get it flipped-over on the other
Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Victor Porton wrote:
>> You carp with words, finding a problem where there is no real problem,
>> just words (I mean the word "hack") which sound like a problem.
>
> Words are important. The very fact that it sounds like a
> problem
On Wed, 2017-05-03 at 17:02 +0200, Chris Warrick wrote:
> On 3 May 2017 at 16:45, Victor Porton wrote:
> > Steve D'Aprano wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 3 May 2017 02:19 am, Victor Porton wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have created a full featu
Chris Warrick wrote:
> On 3 May 2017 at 17:19, Victor Porton wrote:
>> What do you mean by "banned"? Does this mean that Google does not use
>> software of this license?
>
> https://opensource.google.com/docs/using/agpl-policy/
> https:
On Wed, 2017-05-03 at 17:02 +0200, Chris Warrick wrote:
> On 3 May 2017 at 16:45, Victor Porton wrote:
> > Steve D'Aprano wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 3 May 2017 02:19 am, Victor Porton wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have created a full featu
Steve D'Aprano wrote:
> On Wed, 3 May 2017 02:19 am, Victor Porton wrote:
>
>> I have created a full featured package to accept payments in Internet
>> (currently supports PayPal).
> [...]
>> Buy the commercial version and support scientific research and a
gateway
for many different payment processors.
Buy the commercial version and support scientific research and a new
principle of the Web I am working on.
I hope you don't take this message as spam. Is it OK to post updates of our
software to this mailing list in the future?
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Consider PyPi. I never used it, but they say, it is faster than usual CPython
interpreter.
> I waiting with higher interest your feedback.
>
> Thanks to all members of community for support and advice.
> Keep in touch.
> Kind regards.
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Consider PyPi. I never used it, but they say, it is faster than usual
CPython interpreter.
> I waiting with higher interest your feedback.
>
> Thanks to all members of community for support and advice.
> Keep in touch.
> Kind regards.
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Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 12:48:25 PM UTC-5, Victor Porton wrote:
>> Which of two variants of code to construct an "issue comment" object
>> (about BitBucket issue comments) is better?
>>
>> 1.
>>
>> obj = IssueCo
nt)]
obj = construct_subobject(repository, list)
(`construct_subobject` is to be defined in such as way that "1" and "2" do
the same.)
Would you advise me to make such function construct_subobject function or
just to use the direct coding as in "1"?
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Peter Otten wrote:
> Victor Porton wrote:
>
>> I am developing software which shows hierarchical information (tree),
>> including issues and comments from BitBucket (comments are sub-nodes of
>> issues, thus it forms a tree).
>>
>> There are two kinds of
Do I understand correctly, than C3 applies to particular methods, and thus
it does not fail, if it works for every defined method, even if it can fail
after addition of a new method?
Also, at which point it fails: at definition of a class or at calling a
particular "wrong" method?
# diamonds:
class A(BitBucketHierarchyLevel, HierarchyLevelWithPagination):
...
class B(BitBucketHierarchyLevel, HierarchyLevelWithShortList):
...
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interested in a more concrete case such as a
domain-specific application (I can think of progress bars, logging,
transfer rate statistics ...).
Best,
VS
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Michael Selik
wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:53 AM Victor Savu <
> victor.nicolae.s...@gmail.c
There are many posts trying to explain the else after for or while. Here is
my take on it:
There are three ways of getting out of a (for/while) loop: throw, break or
the iterator gets exhausted. The question is, how cab we tell which way we
exited? For the throw, we have the except clause. This le
proof-of-concept implementation:
repository: https://github.com/Victor-Savu/cpython
branch: feat/else_capture
Dear members of the Python list,
I am writing to discuss and get the community's opinion on the following two
ideas:
1. Capture the `StopIteration.value` in the `else` c
d yet. Hopefully, trying to import any
module of the standard library fails.
Don't hesitate to propose more ideas to make Python 8 more incompatible
with Python 3!
Note: The change is already effective in the default branch of Python:
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/9aedec2dbc01
Have fun,
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See also Doug Hellmann article on asyncio, from its serie of "Python 3
Module of the Week" articles:
https://pymotw.com/3/asyncio/index.html
Victor
2016-02-23 22:25 GMT+01:00 Joao S. O. Bueno :
> Today I also stumbled on this helpful "essay" from Brett Cannon about
>
On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 10:02:13 PM UTC+11, Laura Creighton wrote:
> In a message of Sun, 11 Oct 2015 17:56:33 -0700, Victor Hooi writes:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I'm attempting to parse MongoDB loglines.
> >
> >The formatting of these loglines could best b
efforts parsing of non-spec JSON?
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I'm using Python to parse metrics out of logfiles.
The logfiles are fairly large (multiple GBs), so I'm keen to do this in a
reasonably performant way.
The metrics are being sent to a InfluxDB database - so it's better if I can
batch multiple metrics into a batch ,rather than sending them indiv
On Thursday, 3 September 2015 03:49:05 UTC+10, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 9/2/2015 6:04 AM, Victor Hooi wrote:
> > I'm using grouper() to iterate over a textfile in groups of lines:
> >
> > def grouper(iterable, n, fillvalue=None):
> > "Collect da
Hi,
I'm using Python to parse out metrics from logfiles, and ship them off to a
database called InfluxDB, using their Python driver
(https://github.com/influxdb/influxdb-python).
With InfluxDB, it's more efficient if you pack in more points into each message.
Hence, I'm using the grouper() re
which is
then passing another iterable to enumerate - I'm just not sure of the best way
to get the line numbers from the original iterable f, and pass this through the
chain?
On Wednesday, 2 September 2015 20:37:01 UTC+10, Peter Otten wrote:
> Victor Hooi wrote:
>
> > I
I have a function which is meant to return a tuple:
def get_metrics(server_status_json, metrics_to_extract, line_number):
return ((timestamp, "serverstatus", values, tags))
I also have:
def create_point(timestamp, metric_name, values, tags):
return {
I'm using grouper() to iterate over a textfile in groups of lines:
def grouper(iterable, n, fillvalue=None):
"Collect data into fixed-length chunks or blocks"
# grouper('ABCDEFG', 3, 'x') --> ABC DEF Gxx
args = [iter(iterable)] * n
return zip_longest(fillvalue=fillvalue, *args)
Ho
erverStatus(). The logging and reporting consistency in MongoDB
is...quirky, shall we say.
Cheers,
Victor
On Friday, 28 August 2015 16:15:21 UTC+10, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
> Ben Finney writes:
>
> > Victor Hooi writes:
> [- -]
> >> For example:
> >>
> >>
numbers or strings (although strings would not be wrapped in
floatApprox).
On Friday, 28 August 2015 14:58:01 UTC+10, Victor Hooi wrote:
> I'm reading JSON output from an input file, and extracting values.
>
> Many of the fields are meant to be numerical, however, some fi
I'm reading JSON output from an input file, and extracting values.
Many of the fields are meant to be numerical, however, some fields are wrapped
in a "floatApprox" dict, which messed with my parsing.
For example:
{
"hostname": "example.com",
"version": "3.0.5",
"pid": {
"fl
end(add_point(key, eval(value), timestamp, tags))
# client.write_points(json_points)
else:
print("non matching line")
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
My question is - I'm using "eval" in the above, with the nested location (e.g.
"server_status_json['mem']['resident']") stored as a string.
I get the feeling this isn't particularly idiomatic or a great way of doing it
- and would be keen to hear alternative suggestions?
Thanks,
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On Tuesday, 28 July 2015 23:59:11 UTC+10, m wrote:
> W dniu 28.07.2015 o 15:55, Victor Hooi pisze:
> > I know the regex library also has a split, unfortunately, that does not
> > collapse consecutive whitespace:
> >
> > In [19]: re.split(' |', f)
>
>
I have a line that looks like this:
14 *0330 *0 760 411|0 0 770g 1544g 117g 1414
computedshopcartdb:103.5% 0 30|0 0|119m97m 1538
ComputedCartRS PRI 09:40:26
I'd like to split this line on multiple separators - in this case, consec
I just want to run some things past you guys, to make sure I'm doing it right.
I'm using Python to parse disk metrics out of iostat output. The device lines
look like this:
Device: rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/s rsec/s wsec/s avgrq-sz
avgqu-sz await svctm %util
sda
t(line))
elif i == 1 or i == 2:
print("system stats: {}".format(line))
elif i >= 4:
print("disk stats: {}".format(line))
Is there a prettier or more Pythonic way of doing this?
Thanks,
Victor
On Wednesday, 1 July 2015 02:03:0
Pythonic way of parsing the above iostat output, and break it into
chunks split by the timestamp?
Cheers,
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ainly because of http://bugs.python.org/issue6641).
So if I understand correctly, I can just use ChainMap to join any arbitrary
number of dicts together - it seems like the right solution here.
Are there any drawbacks to using ChainMap here? (Aside from needing Python 3.x).
Cheers,
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else:
pass
# DO SOME STUFF
The only problem is, I'd also like output the connection_id field as part of
each CSV record.
However, connection_id in this case is the key for the parent dict.
Is there a clean way to add a extra field to DictWriter writerows, or it is the
contents of the dict and that's it?
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just noticed this which
actually prints out diff-style comparisons:
https://pypi.python.org/pypi/datadiff
Cheers,
Victor
On Friday, 20 March 2015 13:33:52 UTC+11, Ben Finney wrote:
> Victor Hooi writes:
>
> > What is the currently most Pythonic way for doing deep comparisons
> >
;bob jones', 'age': 4, 'hobbies': ['hockey',
'tennis']},
'james': { 'full_name': 'james joyce', 'age': 5, 'hobbies': []}
}
Previously, I though you could do a cmp():
cmp(a, b)
However, thi
Laura, thanks for the answer - it works. Is there some equivalent of
"include" to expose every function in that script?
Thanks again,
-V
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Laura Creighton wrote:
> In a message of Wed, 11 Feb 2015 01:06:00 +0100, Laura Creighton writes:
> >In a message of Tue, 10 F
pika. I read "Pika Python AMQP Client Library". You may
take a look at https://github.com/dzen/aioamqp if you would like to
play with asyncio.
> With those ones ported switching to Python 3 *right now* is not only
> possible and relatively easy, but also convenient.
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http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/AMD64%20FreeBSD%2010.0%203.4/builds/481/steps/test/logs/stdio
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2014-09-22 16:15 GMT+02:00 Larry Hastings :
>
>
> On behalf of the Python development community and the Python 3.4 release
> team, I&
It's not easy to find the changelog. I found this page:
https://docs.python.org/3.4/whatsnew/changelog.html
Victor
2014-05-19 8:00 GMT+02:00 Larry Hastings :
>
>
> On behalf of the Python development community and the Python 3.4 release
> team, I'm pleased to announce the
I want to keep a collection of data organized by collection date and I'll
use datetime like this...
>>> datetime.date.today()
datetime.date(2014, 3, 26)
I'll format the date and create directories like /mydata/-mm-dd
When I create a directory for today, I need to know the directory name f
PyStreet's February salary survey attracted respondents from 37 countries.
Median annual salary in the U.S.: $95,000
Median annual salary worldwide: $50,000
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Hi,
It would be nice to give also the link to the whole changelog in your
emails and on the website:
http://docs.python.org/3.4/whatsnew/changelog.html
Congrats for your RC1 release :-) It's always hard to make developers
stop addings "new minor" changes before the final vers
h.join(root, file)[:-3] not in
previously_processed_files:
In this case, the 80-character mark is actually partway through "previously
processed files" (the first occurrence)...
Cheers,
Victor
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 12:57:13 UTC+11, Victor Hooi wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm running p
t I can't seem to put in line-breaks inside the
comment without triggering a warning. For example, trying to put in another
empty line in between lines 6 and 7 above causes a warning.
Also, how would I split up the long URLs? Breaking it up makes it annoying to
use the URL. Thoughts?
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at(my_dict, foo)
"ernie lorem ipsum spot"
I'm curious - why does this work? Why don't the dictionary keys need quotes
around them, like when you normally access a dict's elements?
Also, is this the best practice to pass both a dict and string to .format()? Or
is there another way that avoids needing to use positional indices? ({0}, {1}
etc.)
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(Above is just an extract).
Assuming I use pytest, where should my tests be in the directory structure, and
how should I be running them?
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quot;, from Unix, last modified: Wed Nov 20
10:48:35 2013
I suppose it's enough to just do a?
if "gzip compressed data" in results:
or is there a better way?
Cheers,
Victor
On Tuesday, 19 November 2013 20:36:47 UTC+11, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 19/11/2013 07:13, Victor Hoo
which wraps libmagic, or I can
just rely on file extensions).
Other thoughts?
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Why do you need to force the UTF-8 encoding? Your locale is not
correctly configured?
It's better to set PYTHONIOENCODING rather than replacing
sys.stdout/stderr at runtime.
There is an open issue to add a TextIOWrapper.set_encoding() method:
http://bugs.python.org/issue15216
Victor
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xception?
Can anybody recommend any good examples that show current best practices for
exception handling, for programs with moderate complexity? (i.e. anything more
than the examples in the tutorial, basically).
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udo-random number generator after fork.
A pthread_atfork() parent handler is used to seed the PRNG with pid, time
and some stack data.
Is this changeset in Python 2.7.6 or not?
Victor
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I also tried editing the Modules/Setup.dist file, no luck there either.
Any thoughts on what we're doing wrong?
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d Hat 4.4.6-4)]
$ sudo python sync_bexdb.py
[sudo] password for victor:
2.6.6 (r266:84292, Jul 10 2013, 22:48:45)
[GCC 4.4.7 20120313 (Red Hat 4.4.7-3)]
Cheers,
Victor
On Tuesday, 5 November 2013 10:02:50 UTC+11, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Victor Hooi wrote:
>
x27;.format(datetime.now().strftime('%Y-%d-%m_%H.%M.%S'))
>>> print(LOG_FILENAME)
my_project_2013-05-11_09.29.47.log
My understanding was that in Python 2.7/3.1, you could omit the positional
specifiers in a format string.
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table as Burak Aslan suggested?
Cheers,
victor
On Tuesday, 29 October 2013 10:43:19 UTC+11, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:43:07 -0700 (PDT), Victor Hooi
>
> declaimed the following:
>
>
>
> >Hi,
>
> >
>
> >I'd like to double-
.debug('Compressed to %s GZIP file.' %
humansize(os.path.getsize(self.gzip_filename)))
How could I share this? Mixins? Or is there something better?
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ring results in something like SQLite,
or MongoDB and outputting a CSV directly from there.
Cheers,
Victor
On Wednesday, 30 October 2013 13:55:53 UTC+11, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> > Like Victor says, that opens him up to race conditions.
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> Slim chance, it's no more poss
I'm guessing I can't use try-except with IOError, since the open(..., 'ab')
will work whether the file exists or not.
Is there another way I can execute code only if the file is new?
Cheers,
Victor
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In [40]: urlparse.parse_qs(urlparse.urlparse(url).query)
Out[40]:
{'utm_campaign': ['ba^Cn=HC'],
'utm_medium': ['email'],
'utm_source': ['foo1043c']}
Chee
43c'],
'utm_campaign': ['ba^Cn=HC'],
'utm_medium': ['email']}
For some reason - the utm_source doesn't appear to have been extracted
correctly, and it's keying the result on the url plus utm_source, rather than
just 'utm_source'?
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call modules from other modules within the
package?
Cheers,
Victor
On Tuesday, 29 October 2013 18:44:47 UTC+11, Peter Otten wrote:
> Victor Hooi wrote:
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> > Hmm, this post on SO seems to suggest that importing from another s
I can structure my code so that I can run the sync_em.py
and sync_pg.py scripts, and they can pull common functions from somewhere?
Cheers,
Victor
On Tuesday, 29 October 2013 12:08:10 UTC+11, Victor Hooi wrote:
> Hi,
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> If I try to use:
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t from the
"foo_loading/em_load" directory?
I thought I could just refer to the full path, and it'd find it, but evidently
not...hmm.
Cheers,
Victor
On Tuesday, 29 October 2013 12:01:03 UTC+11, Ben Finney wrote:
> Victor Hooi writes:
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