On Nov 23, 2007 1:29 AM, Roc Zhou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I'm now being confused by this segment of code:
class Test:
... var = 1
... def func(self): pass
...
x = Test()
y = Test()
x.var is y.var
True
x.func is y.func
False
id(x.var); id(y.var)
146132400
Fuzzyman a écrit :
On Oct 22, 6:43 pm, Steven Bethard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(snip)
# Inherit from object. There's no reason to create old-style classes.
We recently had to change an object pipeline from new style classes to
old style. A lot of these objects were being created and the
Fuzzyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We recently had to change an object pipeline from new style classes
to old style. A lot of these objects were being created and the
*extra overhead* of new style classes was killing us. :-)
Can you please expand on this? What extra overhead of new-style
On Oct 29, 11:35 pm, Steven Bethard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fuzzyman wrote:
On Oct 22, 6:43 pm, Steven Bethard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
# Inherit from object. There's no reason to create old-style classes.
We recently had to change an object pipeline from new style classes to
old style.
On Oct 30, 2007 5:52 AM, Fuzzyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 29, 11:35 pm, Steven Bethard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fuzzyman wrote:
On Oct 22, 6:43 pm, Steven Bethard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
# Inherit from object. There's no reason to create old-style classes.
We recently had to
On Oct 22, 6:43 pm, Steven Bethard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
Contents of input text file:
[Name]
Fire Breathing Dragon
[Properties]
Strength
Scariness
Endurance
[Methods]
eatMaiden argMaiden
fightKnight argKnight
Generated Python Class File
Fuzzyman wrote:
On Oct 22, 6:43 pm, Steven Bethard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
# Inherit from object. There's no reason to create old-style classes.
We recently had to change an object pipeline from new style classes to
old style. A lot of these objects were being created and the *extra
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:31:51 -0600, Steven Bethard wrote:
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Computed attributes are IMHO not only a life-saver when it comes to
refactoring. There are cases where you *really* have - by 'design' I'd
say - the semantic of a property, but know from the start you'll
Steven Bethard a écrit :
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Steven Bethard a écrit :
(snip)
In Python, you can use property() to make method calls look like
attribute access. This could be necessary if you have an existing
API that used public attributes, but changes to your code require
those
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:31:51 -0600, Steven Bethard wrote:
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Computed attributes are IMHO not only a life-saver when it comes to
refactoring. There are cases where you *really* have - by 'design' I'd
say - the semantic of a property,
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Steven Bethard a écrit :
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Steven Bethard a écrit :
(snip)
In Python, you can use property() to make method calls look like
attribute access. This could be necessary if you have an existing
API that used public attributes, but changes
Steven Bethard a écrit :
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Steven Bethard a écrit :
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Steven Bethard a écrit :
(snip)
In Python, you can use property() to make method calls look like
attribute access. This could be necessary if you have an existing
API that used
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
I guess as long as your documentation is clear about which attributes
require computation and which don't...
Why should it ? FWIW, I mentionned that I would obviously not use
properties for values requiring heavy, non cachable computation. This
set aside, the
Steven Bethard a écrit :
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
I guess as long as your documentation is clear about which attributes
require computation and which don't...
Why should it ? FWIW, I mentionned that I would obviously not use
properties for values requiring heavy, non cachable
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Steven Bethard a écrit :
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
I guess as long as your documentation is clear about which
attributes require computation and which don't...
Why should it ?
[snip]
I believe we simply disagree on weither properties should be used when
it
Steven Bethard a écrit :
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Steven Bethard a écrit :
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
I guess as long as your documentation is clear about which
attributes require computation and which don't...
Why should it ?
[snip]
I believe we simply disagree on weither
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Now how does your desire for documentation imply that if you're
creating a class for the first time, it should *never* use property() ?
Of course, there's *never* any such thing as never in Python. ;-)
STeVe
P.S. If you really don't understand what I was getting
I was thinking of a way I could make writing Python Class Files a
little less painful. I was considering a Ptyhon script that read a
file with a list of property names and method names and then generated
a skeleton class file.
I was even thinking of automatically generating the shell for doc
On 10/22/07, Sunburned Surveyor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was thinking of a way I could make writing Python Class Files a
little less painful. I was considering a Ptyhon script that read a
file with a list of property names and method names and then generated
a skeleton class file.
I
On Oct 22, 10:26 am, Chris Mellon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/22/07, Sunburned Surveyor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was thinking of a way I could make writing Python Class Files a
little less painful. I was considering a Ptyhon script that read a
file with a list of property names
Sunburned Surveyor a écrit :
I was thinking of a way I could make writing Python Class Files
What's a Python Class File ?
a
little less painful.
If you find writing classes in Python painful, then either you have no
experience with any mainstream language or you are doing something wrong
On 10/22/07, Sunburned Surveyor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:26 am, Chris Mellon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/22/07, Sunburned Surveyor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was thinking of a way I could make writing Python Class Files a
little less painful. I was considering
text file:
[Name]
Fire Breathing Dragon
[Properties]
Strength
Scariness
Endurance
[Methods]
eatMaiden argMaiden
fightKnight argKnight
Generated Python Class File:
def class FireBreathingDragon:
def getStrength(self):
Docstring goes here.
@return
Python Class Files a
little less painful. I was considering a Ptyhon script that read a
file with a list of property names and method names and then generated
a skeleton class file.
I was even thinking of automatically generating the shell for doc
strings and epydoc tags
Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
Contents of input text file:
[Name]
Fire Breathing Dragon
[Properties]
Strength
Scariness
Endurance
[Methods]
eatMaiden argMaiden
fightKnight argKnight
Generated Python Class File:
def class FireBreathingDragon:
def getStrength(self
You wrote: can't think of a single reason why you would ever want to
do this,
since your list of method and property names would be just as
verbose as just typing the actual python code.
I don't think I understand how this would be the same amount of
typing. Consider the following example
On Oct 22, 11:43 am, Steven Bethard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
Contents of input text file:
[Name]
Fire Breathing Dragon
[Properties]
Strength
Scariness
Endurance
[Methods]
eatMaiden argMaiden
fightKnight argKnight
Generated Python Class File
Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
I also intended to add statements creating properties from the getter
and setter methods. I understand that getters and setters aren't
really necessary if you aren't making a property. I just forgot to add
the property statements to my example.
You still don't want
and method
in generated class file.):
Contents of input text file:
[Name]
Fire Breathing Dragon
Why do you put spaces in the name ?
[Properties]
Strength
Scariness
Endurance
[Methods]
eatMaiden argMaiden
fightKnight argKnight
Generated Python Class File:
def class
argMaiden
fightKnight argKnight
Generated Python Class File:
def class FireBreathingDragon:
should be:
class FireBreathingDragon(object):
def getStrength(self):
You don't need these getters and setters. Python has support for
computed attributes (look for 'property'), so until you
Sunburned Surveyor a écrit :
On Oct 22, 11:47 am, Bruno Desthuilliers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(snip)
Bruno wrote: You don't need these getters and setters. Python has
support for
computed attributes (look for 'property'), so until you need to
control
access, a plain attribute is all you
Steven Bethard a écrit :
(snip)
In Python, you can use property() to make method calls look like
attribute access. This could be necessary if you have an existing API
that used public attributes, but changes to your code require those
attributes to do additional calculations now.
But if
On Oct 22, 1:23 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steven Bethard a écrit :
(snip)
In Python, you can use property() to make method calls look like
attribute access. This could be necessary if you have an existing API
that used public attributes, but changes to your code
On Oct 22, 11:44 am, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You wrote: can't think of a single reason why you would ever want to
do this,
since your list of method and property names would be just as
verbose as just typing the actual python code.
I don't think I understand how this
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Steven Bethard a écrit :
(snip)
In Python, you can use property() to make method calls look like
attribute access. This could be necessary if you have an existing API
that used public attributes, but changes to your code require those
attributes to do
Thanks all for these detailed explanations.
On Oct 18, 10:48 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
dmitrey a écrit :
Not unless these classes define their own initializers. But that's
another problem
and there are lots of
those ones)
class MyClass:
def __init__(self):
Hi all,
I have the code like this one:
from myMisc import ooIter
class MyClass:
def __init__(self): pass
iterfcn = lambda *args: ooIter(self) # i.e pass the class instance
to other func named ooIter
field2 = val2
field3 = val3 # etc
So it yields global name 'self' is not defined,
dmitrey a écrit :
Hi all,
I have the code like this one:
from myMisc import ooIter
class MyClass:
Unless you have a need for compatibility with aged Python versions,
you'd be better using new-style classes:
class MyClass(object):
def __init__(self): pass
This is the default
On Oct 19, 8:22 am, dmitrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I have the code like this one:
from myMisc import ooIter
class MyClass:
def __init__(self): pass
iterfcn = lambda *args: ooIter(self) # i.e pass the class instance
to other func named ooIter
field2 = val2
field3
On 26 Set, 19:00, Matimus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can anybody give me an hint (or some link) on how to define
'aCFunction' and how to call 'self.myMethod' in the C source code?
A python function defined in C accepts a pointer to self and a tuple
of arguments, each of which is also a
Can anybody give me an hint (or some link) on how to define
'aCFunction' and how to call 'self.myMethod' in the C source code?
A python function defined in C accepts a pointer to self and a tuple
of arguments, each of which is also a PyObject. If you pass a function
or method, it will be
En Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:18:04 -0300, m2i3k [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
I have C code with requires me to register a python callback. I am
able to get the callback working well using ctypes if I use global
functions without any context argument for the callback.
Now I want to register a python
Hi
I have C code with requires me to register a python callback. I am
able to get the callback working well using ctypes if I use global
functions without any context argument for the callback.
Now I want to register a python class member function for callback,
and give self as the context
On Jul 2, 1:21 pm, Duncan Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bruza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 2, 3:52 am, Duncan Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bruza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to define a class static variable. But the value of the
static variable seems to be only defined
I am trying to define a class static variable. But the value of the
static variable seems to be only defined inside the file that the
class is declared. See the code below. When I run python w.py, I
got:
000=== Hello World
001=== Hello World
002=== Not Initialized
003=== Not
Bruza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to define a class static variable. But the value of the
static variable seems to be only defined inside the file that the
class is declared. See the code below. When I run python w.py, I
got:
When you run python w.py the *script* w.py is loaded as
On Jul 2, 3:52 am, Duncan Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bruza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to define a class static variable. But the value of the
static variable seems to be only defined inside the file that the
class is declared. See the code below. When I run python w.py, I
Bruza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 2, 3:52 am, Duncan Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bruza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to define a class static variable. But the value of the
static variable seems to be only defined inside the file that the
class is declared. See the code
Éric Daigneault lists wrote:
When creating a class with data members but no __init__ method. Python
deals differently with data members that are muatable and immutables.
no, it doesn't. it's your code that deals with them in different ways,
not Python.
Ex:
class A(object):
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Éric Daigneault lists wrote:
When creating a class with data members but no __init__ method. Python
deals differently with data members that are muatable and immutables.
no, it doesn't. it's your code that deals with them in different ways,
not Python.
Éric Daigneault wrote:
Got a question for you all...
I noticed a behaviour in python class creation that is strange, to say the
least.
When creating a class with data members but no __init__ method. Python deals
differently with data members that are muatable and immutables.
Ex:
class A(object
At Monday 23/10/2006 17:56, Éric Daigneault lists wrote:
When creating a class with data members but no __init__ method. Python
deals differently with data members that are muatable and immutables.
See
http://zephyrfalcon.org/labs/python_pitfalls.html specially items 4 and 5.
And
Éric Daigneault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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It is humbling to see how simple yet powerfull python`s view on things
is
+1 QOTW
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A Comparison of Python Class Objects and Init Files for Program
Configuration
=
Terrence Brannon
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http://www.livingcosmos.org/Members/sundevil/python/articles/a-comparison-of-python-class-objects-and-init
I have a class that is defined in a file called MyClass.py
How do I use that class in another python script..
import MyClass ? (Does it need to be in a specific location?)
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KraftDiner wrote:
I have a class that is defined in a file called MyClass.py
How do I use that class in another python script..
import MyClass ? (Does it need to be in a specific location?)
Same directory as the script that's importing it, or in the PYTHONPATH.
import sys
print sys.path
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KraftDiner wrote:
I have a class that is defined in a file called MyClass.py
How do I use that class in another python script..
import MyClass ? (Does it need to be in a specific location?)
MyClass.py has to be on your python path. Your python path is a list
of directories python will
And80 wrote:
Hi all,
I am looking for a python package that I could employ to analyze
Apache's log files in real time. Of course I already have found some
scripts, but most of them are outdated (python1.5), while others are
simply impossible to use for a custom application. I was looking for
Right now I'm using Boost Python to wrap some C++ code so
that applications from both languages can use it.
This is great, but I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that
a lot of this work is better coded in Python. There's nothing
particularly CPU-bound, and the comprehensive Python library is a
Mark Harrison schrieb:
Right now I'm using Boost Python to wrap some C++ code so
that applications from both languages can use it.
This is great, but I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that
a lot of this work is better coded in Python. There's nothing
particularly CPU-bound, and the
Chris Jones wrote:
Robert Kern wrote:
Of course, modern versions of Exuberant Ctags also support Python, too.
I apt-installed this package but the man page is rather intimidating so
I thought I might as well make sure I was going in the right direction.
You will probably want to read the
Of course, modern versions of Exuberant Ctags also support Python, too.
I apt-installed this package but the man page is rather intimidating so
I thought I might as well make sure I was going in the right direction.
You will probably want to read the vim documentation on how to use ctags
Daniel Nogradi wrote:
Of course, modern versions of Exuberant Ctags also support Python, too.
I apt-installed this package but the man page is rather intimidating so
I thought I might as well make sure I was going in the right direction.
You will probably want to read the vim documentation on
I'm trying to make sense of a python program and was wondering if vim
has any python-oriented functionalities (apart from syntax highlighting)
that would make it somewhat easier to browse the source code.
What I had in mind is something that would let me use CTRL+] to
automatically display
Chris Jones wrote:
I'm trying to make sense of a python program and was wondering if vim
has any python-oriented functionalities (apart from syntax highlighting)
that would make it somewhat easier to browse the source code.
What I had in mind is something that would let me use CTRL+] to
S Borg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am running Python on Mac OS X. The interpreter has been great for
learning the basics, but I would now like to be able to reuse code.
Excellent. Code reuse is what it's all about!
How do I write reusable code? I have done it The Java way: write
the class,
Huh? You definitely must import that module. Then, is your homedir
listed in sys.path?
Greetings,
F. Sidler
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S Borg schreef:
Hello,
I am running Python on Mac OS X. The interpreter has been great for
learning the basics, but I would now like to be able to reuse code.
How do I write reusable code? I have done it The Java way: write
the class, and save it to my home directory, then call it from
Roel Schroeven wrote:
import MyModule
x = MyModule.MyClass()
x.f()
Or you could directly import MyClass into the global namespace like this:
from MyModule import MyClass
x = MyClass()
x.f()
But that's not recommended since it clutters the global namespace and
makes it more
Hello All,
Let's say I have a following python code:
class hw_class:
def __init__(self):
pass
def hello_world(self):
print 'Hello World!'
create_instance('hw_class', 'hw')
hw.hello_world()
hw = None
The 'create_instance' function should be implemented in the application
In the mean time I did this. It works however, it creates memory leaks.
Any idea what could be wrong?
procedure TForm1.PyCreateInstance(Sender: TObject; PSelf, Args:
PPyObject;
var Result: PPyObject);
var
BClassName: PChar;
BInstName: PChar;
//
BB: Boolean;
BModule:
Hello,
I am a new programmer in Python and a need some help. Where can i get a
basic tutorial about Class. I don't know nothing about Object Oriented
Programming. Can you help me?
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Manuel11g wrote:
Hello,
I am a new programmer in Python and a need some help. Where can i get a
basic tutorial about Class. I don't know nothing about Object Oriented
Programming. Can you help me?
http://diveintopython.org/object_oriented_framework/index.html
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phil hunt enlightened us with:
Why do you need to maske lots of copies?
The puzzles are stored in a NxN list of strings. The strings contain
all the numerals that that block can contain. So a 9x9 puzzle contains
81 strings 123456789 when it's empty.
My creation function picks a block that isn't
Hi people,
I'm creating a program that can solve and create Sudoku puzzles. My
creation function needs to make a lot of copies of a puzzle. Until
now, I used copy.deepcopy(), but that's too slow. I want to implement
such a copying function in C and use that instead. My idea about this
is:
- Get
Sybren Stuvel wrote:
Hi people,
I'm creating a program that can solve and create Sudoku puzzles. My
creation function needs to make a lot of copies of a puzzle. Until
now, I used copy.deepcopy(), but that's too slow. I want to implement
such a copying function in C and use that instead. My
djw enlightened us with:
Personally, I would try Psyco first, and consider Pyrex next.
Ok, I'll take a look at those.
Are you sure your algorithm can't be optimized first, before you
start trying to write this in C?
I'm sure there will be optimizations, but profiling showed that the
copying
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 17:19:21 +0200, Sybren Stuvel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi people,
I'm creating a program that can solve and create Sudoku puzzles. My
creation function needs to make a lot of copies of a puzzle.
Why do you need to maske lots of copies? And when you say lots of
what numbers do
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 18:50:26 +0200, Sybren Stuvel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
djw enlightened us with:
Personally, I would try Psyco first, and consider Pyrex next.
Ok, I'll take a look at those.
Are you sure your algorithm can't be optimized first, before you
start trying to write this in C?
It's not free, but it is pretty cheap considering all it can do. Check
out Enterprise Architect (with the free add-in for Python) from
www.sparxsystems.com.au. Pro version license is US$180 or so, but they
may have a student license for less that you could use.
-- Paul
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Thanks everyone. I will explore all the suggestions, but it looks like
SPE is the immediate answer.
Bill
William Gill wrote:
Being somewhat new to Python, and having a tendency to over complicate
things in my class design, I was wondering if anyone can suggest a
simple graphical or
There's also this about giving source/class browsers a hand by
sprinkling isinstance()'s in
http://wingware.com/doc/intro/tutorial-sassist-with-classes
I always encourage people to write up their experience/improessions in
the python wiki:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors
(or the
William Gill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Being somewhat new to Python, and having a tendency to over complicate
things in my class design, I was wondering if anyone can suggest a
simple graphical or flowcharting tool that they use to organize their
class and program design? Because of a 55
Being somewhat new to Python, and having a tendency to over complicate
things in my class design, I was wondering if anyone can suggest a
simple graphical or flowcharting tool that they use to organize their
class and program design? Because of a 55 mph head-on accident a few
years back, I
You may want to use Doxygen, which generates nice diagrams. It's
normally only for C++, but there are nice filters (for ex.
http://i31www.ira.uka.de/~baas/pydoxy) that generates C++ header from
python code that Doxygen can crunch.
Another solution is to use IDE such as Eric3 that can generate UML
Have you looked at class browser module? Not the graphical tool you're
looking for, but maybe a good start
http://www.python.org/doc/2.0.1/lib/module-pyclbr.html
William Gill wrote:
Being somewhat new to Python, and having a tendency to over complicate
things in my class design, I was
gene tani wrote:
Have you looked at class browser module? Not the graphical tool you're
looking for, but maybe a good start
No, it's not graphical, but it looks like I may be able to use it to put
together a nice outline, or summary of my modules. It's worth
exploring, thanks.
Bill
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:40:52 GMT
William Gill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Being somewhat new to Python, and having a tendency to over
complicate things in my class design, I was wondering if anyone can
suggest a simple graphical or flowcharting tool that they use to
organize their class and
forgot mention Komodo's code and object browser, which're both in the
$30 license
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/docs/Komodo/3.1/komodo-doc-codeintel.html#codeintel_codebrowser
and SPE's supposed to have some kinda class explorer
http://www.stani.be/python/spe
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Python is an oop language,
but why does it hava not private methods?
And it even has not real private fields.
Will this never changed?
Private stuff always makes programming much easier.
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could ildg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Private stuff always makes programming much easier.
says who?
/F
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Trolls?
On 4/19/05, Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
could ildg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Private stuff always makes programming much easier.
says who?
/F
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On 4/19/05, could ildg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Python is an oop language,
Yes.
Private stuff always makes programming much easier.
That contention is, at best, debatable. See
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/b977ed1312e10b21.
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Simon B,
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Simon Brunning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 4/19/05, could ildg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Python is an oop language,
Yes.
Private stuff always makes programming much easier.
That contention is, at best, debatable. See
Roy Smith wrote:
Simon Brunning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 4/19/05, could ildg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Private stuff always makes programming much easier.
That contention is, at best, debatable. See
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/b977ed1312e10b21.
Nice essay. Now, for
Have I missed something? Doesn't this mangle class methods:
class Foo:
def __bar(self):
print bar
Granted, you could probably figure out how the names are being
mangled. In the example above __bar is a defacto private method.
Griping about it not having `private' in front of it is
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Peter Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Roy Smith wrote:
Simon Brunning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 4/19/05, could ildg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Private stuff always makes programming much easier.
That contention is, at best, debatable. See
but why does it hava not private methods?
Because it does not need them, ain't it?
Private stuff always makes programming much easier.
Does it? Sometimes contortion is needed to get rid of declarations
that restrain access, for example, when writing tests.
I think the point-of-view of Python is
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