Re: A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-22 Thread od
tool69 wrote: > Sorry, but did someone knows if Pida works under Windows ? > Thanks. No, it doesn't really. You can start it up with a bit of hacking, and I have seen screenshots around, but only with the scintilla-based editor. We are waiting for SVG support in GTK on windows. Writing a vim-win

Re: A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-19 Thread Leo Kislov
Kirill Simonov wrote: > On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 03:27:32AM -0800, Leo Kislov wrote: > > IDLE on Windows works fine for your example in interactive console: > > > > >>> name = raw_input("What's your name? ") > > Have you tried to use cyrillic characters in a Python string in > interactive console?

Re: A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-19 Thread Kirill Simonov
On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 03:13:30PM +0100, Alan Franzoni wrote: > Kirill Simonov si è divertito a scrivere: > > > On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 12:33:39PM +0100, Alan Franzoni wrote: > > > No, I would prefer the editor to save the .py files with non-ASCII > > characters in UTF-8 encoding adding the BO

Re: A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-19 Thread Kirill Simonov
On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 03:27:32AM -0800, Leo Kislov wrote: > IDLE on Windows works fine for your example in interactive console: > > >>> name = raw_input("What's your name? ") Have you tried to use cyrillic characters in a Python string in interactive console? When I do it, I get the "Unsupporte

Re: A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-19 Thread Alan Franzoni
Kirill Simonov si è divertito a scrivere: > On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 12:33:39PM +0100, Alan Franzoni wrote: > No, I would prefer the editor to save the .py files with non-ASCII > characters in UTF-8 encoding adding the BOM at the beginning of the > file. This will allow the interpreted to detect

Re: A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-19 Thread Kirill Simonov
On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 12:33:39PM +0100, Alan Franzoni wrote: > Kirill Simonov si è divertito a scrivere: > > > Unfortunately, most IDEs I tried failed miserably in this respect. My > > test was simple: I've run the code > > name = raw_input("What's your name? ") # written in Russian > >

Re: [Zopyrus] A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-19 Thread tool69
Sorry, but did someone knows if Pida works under Windows ? Thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [Zopyrus] A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-19 Thread Alexey Wasilyev
Здравствуйте, Kirill. Вы писали 18 ноября 2006 г., 22:22:48: >> > Could anyone suggest me a simple IDE suitable for teaching Python as a >> > first programming language to high school students? >> >>Does it have to be an IDE? Wouldn't it be better to use a simple text >> editor + command line

Re: A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-19 Thread Alan Franzoni
Kirill Simonov si è divertito a scrivere: > Unfortunately, most IDEs I tried failed miserably in this respect. My > test was simple: I've run the code > name = raw_input("What's your name? ") # written in Russian > print "Hello, %s!" % name # in Russian as well > both from

Re: A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-19 Thread Leo Kislov
Kirill Simonov wrote: > Hi, > > Could anyone suggest me a simple IDE suitable for teaching Python as a > first programming language to high school students? It is necessary > that it has a good support for input/output in Cyrillic. > > Unfortunately, most IDEs I tried failed miserably in this resp

Re: [Zopyrus] A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-18 Thread Kirill Simonov
On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 02:49:43AM +0600, Gleb Kulikov wrote: > В сообщении от Воскресенье 19 Ноябрь 2006 01:01 Kirill Simonov написал: > > > first programming language to high school students? It is necessary > > > Unfortunately, most IDEs I tried failed miserably in this respect. My > > > For

Re: [Zopyrus] A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-18 Thread Gleb Kulikov
В сообщении от Воскресенье 19 Ноябрь 2006 01:01 Kirill Simonov написал: > first programming language to high school students? It is necessary > Unfortunately, most IDEs I tried failed miserably in this respect. My > For the record, I've checked IDLE, PythonWin, Eric, DrPython, SPE, and Pardon

Re: [Zopyrus] A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-18 Thread Kirill Simonov
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 10:52:35PM +0300, Oleg Broytmann wrote: > On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:22:48PM +0200, Kirill Simonov wrote: > > Preferably. I believe that using a editor + command line will only make > > things worse because console and GUI have different encodings under > > Windows. > >

Re: [Zopyrus] A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-18 Thread Kirill Simonov
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 07:20:49PM +, tom wrote: > Oleg Broytmann wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:01:04PM +0200, Kirill Simonov wrote: > > > >> Could anyone suggest me a simple IDE suitable for teaching Python as a > >> first programming language to high school students > >> > whi

Re: [Zopyrus] A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-18 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:22:48PM +0200, Kirill Simonov wrote: > On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 10:08:22PM +0300, Oleg Broytmann wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:01:04PM +0200, Kirill Simonov wrote: > > > Could anyone suggest me a simple IDE suitable for teaching Python as a > > > first programming

Re: [Zopyrus] A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-18 Thread Larry Bates
Oleg Broytmann wrote: > On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:01:04PM +0200, Kirill Simonov wrote: >> Could anyone suggest me a simple IDE suitable for teaching Python as a >> first programming language to high school students? > >Does it have to be an IDE? Wouldn't it be better to use a simple text > ed

A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-18 Thread Kirill Simonov
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 10:08:22PM +0300, Oleg Broytmann wrote: > On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:01:04PM +0200, Kirill Simonov wrote: > > Could anyone suggest me a simple IDE suitable for teaching Python as a > > first programming language to high school students? > >Does it have to be an IDE? Wou

Re: [Zopyrus] A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-18 Thread tom
Oleg Broytmann wrote: > On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:01:04PM +0200, Kirill Simonov wrote: > >> Could anyone suggest me a simple IDE suitable for teaching Python as a >> first programming language to high school students >> which operating system would this concern? IDLE which you might find

A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-18 Thread Kirill Simonov
Hi, Could anyone suggest me a simple IDE suitable for teaching Python as a first programming language to high school students? It is necessary that it has a good support for input/output in Cyrillic. Unfortunately, most IDEs I tried failed miserably in this respect. My test was simple: I've run

Re: [Zopyrus] A python IDE for teaching that supports cyrillic i/o

2006-11-18 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:01:04PM +0200, Kirill Simonov wrote: > Could anyone suggest me a simple IDE suitable for teaching Python as a > first programming language to high school students? Does it have to be an IDE? Wouldn't it be better to use a simple text editor + command line? Oleg. --