Re: mouse click automation

2019-01-01 Thread Larry Martell
On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 12:10 PM Siddha 2305 wrote: > > Hello All, > > I am trying to write a script to emulate mouse clicks. > The script launches Google chrome, navigates to the website. But after that > the script does not go to the specified coordinates. > > Also, I noticed that the screen coo

Re: mouse click automation

2019-01-01 Thread Brian Oney via Python-list
I am unfamiliar with pynput. I have had good experience with pyautogui. As your script isn't yet advanced, you may consider it. https://pyautogui.readthedocs.io/en/latest/introduction.html -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

mouse click automation

2019-01-01 Thread Siddha 2305
Hello All, I am trying to write a script to emulate mouse clicks. The script launches Google chrome, navigates to the website. But after that the script does not go to the specified coordinates. Also, I noticed that the screen coordinate is different every time I tried to check it. Could some

[ANN] maildog, Re: email automation

2018-10-30 Thread Brian Oney via Python-list
On Tue, 2018-10-23 at 13:58 +0200, Brian J. Oney wrote: > On Tue, 2018-10-23 at 10:31 +0100, Ali Rıza KELEŞ wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 09:07, Thomas Jollans wrote: > Now that it seems that I will be writing this. So I have gotten so far as to have a little package called 'maildog' working

Re: email automation

2018-10-23 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 2018-10-23 13:58, Brian J. Oney via Python-list wrote: > Now that it seems that I will be writing this. What is the recommended way to > set up a timer. I know 2 system options, systemd timers and cron jobs. I > prefer the former for the handy logging options. What about a python solution? cele

Re: email automation

2018-10-23 Thread Brian J. Oney via Python-list
On Tue, 2018-10-23 at 10:31 +0100, Ali Rıza KELEŞ wrote: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 09:07, Thomas Jollans wrote: > > > After some basic research I have a few options: > > >  > > >  1. Grapple with OpenEMM (interesting software, has python library, > > > still alive and kicking, a bit overkill f

Re: email automation

2018-10-23 Thread Ali Rıza KELEŞ
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 09:07, Thomas Jollans wrote: > > After some basic research I have a few options: > > > > 1. Grapple with OpenEMM (interesting software, has python library, > > still alive and kicking, a bit overkill for my use-case); > > 2. build on the examples in 'Automate the

Re: email automation

2018-10-23 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 22/10/2018 18:35, Brian Oney via Python-list wrote: > Dear List, > > I would like to send out custom automated replies to email. In the future, I > would like to be able to integrate nltk and fuzzy matching if necessary. > > After some basic research I have a few options: > > 1. Grapple

RE: email automation

2018-10-23 Thread Ryan Johnson
Consider a web service API…Not really sure about where you want to evaluate your incoming emails, but perhaps MailChimp could help. https://mailchimp.com/features/marketing-automation/ There are a bunch of ways to automate things with web services now, using Zapier. https://mailchimp.com

email automation

2018-10-22 Thread Brian Oney via Python-list
Dear List, I would like to send out custom automated replies to email. In the future, I would like to be able to integrate nltk and fuzzy matching if necessary. After some basic research I have a few options: 1. Grapple with OpenEMM (interesting software, has python library, still alive an

Re: Automation query... Plz help

2018-01-30 Thread Prahallad Achar
n D'Aprano" < steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 16:00:43 +0530, Prahallad Achar wrote: > > > Luckily application supports headless automation now question is how to > > invoke those jar using python. > > I can see two approa

Re: Automation query... Plz help

2018-01-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 16:00:43 +0530, Prahallad Achar wrote: > Luckily application supports headless automation now question is how to > invoke those jar using python. I can see two approaches: (1) Calling the jar directly from Python. I don't think you can do that from CPython, but y

Re: Automation query... Plz help

2018-01-30 Thread Prahallad Achar
Luckily application supports headless automation now question is how to > invoke those jar using python. On 29 Jan 2018 10:45 pm, "Prahallad Achar" wrote: Thanks for the kind response. Sure.. Definitely I shall ask development team for the same. Regards Prahallad On 29 Jan

Re: Automation query... Plz help

2018-01-29 Thread Prahallad Achar
Thanks for the kind response. Sure.. Definitely I shall ask development team for the same. Regards Prahallad On 29 Jan 2018 7:48 pm, "Steven D'Aprano" < steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 17:50:46 +0530, Prahallad Achar wrote: > > > No.. Not at all. > > > > Its CT

Re: Automation query... Plz help

2018-01-29 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 17:50:46 +0530, Prahallad Achar wrote: > No.. Not at all. > > Its CTP application.. Which is basically transport planner for networks If you want to know whether CTP can be run headless, you should ask the CTP support team or software maintainer, not Python forums. Do you h

Re: Automation query... Plz help

2018-01-29 Thread Prahallad Achar
ends, > > > > There is an desktop application which runs on Windows and written in > > java > [...] > > Is there a way to run this automation without launching the application > > (headless) > > Is the name of the application a secret? > > > >

Re: Automation query... Plz help

2018-01-29 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 16:23:23 +0530, Prahallad Achar wrote: > Hello friends, > > There is an desktop application which runs on Windows and written in > java [...] > Is there a way to run this automation without launching the application > (headless) Is the name of the ap

Automation query... Plz help

2018-01-29 Thread Prahallad Achar
Hello friends, There is an desktop application which runs on Windows and written in java There is a requirement to automate that application. Am trying with pyautogui but it is very slow and lengthy code to compete. Is there a way to run this automation without launching the application

Re: IoT automation

2018-01-29 Thread Prahallad Achar via Python-list
Thank you Mr. Marvin On 29 Jan 2018 12:02 pm, "Dale Marvin via Python-list" < python-list@python.org> wrote: > On 1/28/18 7:39 AM, Prahallad Achar wrote: > >> Hello team, >> Could you please help me out in automation of IoT product end to end >>

Re: IoT automation

2018-01-28 Thread Dale Marvin via Python-list
On 1/28/18 7:39 AM, Prahallad Achar wrote: Hello team, Could you please help me out in automation of IoT product end to end Regards Prahallad <https://micropython.org/> ? --Dale -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

IoT automation

2018-01-28 Thread Prahallad Achar
Hello team, Could you please help me out in automation of IoT product end to end Regards Prahallad -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Client support automation and self service

2016-05-03 Thread jmp
On 05/03/2016 10:02 AM, musoke wilson wrote: Hi Guys Currently working with a team to automate business operations and client support for a small enterprise. Key requirements: Clients to register, log queries and initiate service request through The Web and/or Mobile APP Clear tracking by the

Client support automation and self service

2016-05-03 Thread musoke wilson
Hi Guys Currently working with a team to automate business operations and client support for a small enterprise. Key requirements: Clients to register, log queries and initiate service request through The Web and/or Mobile APP Clear tracking by the CRM team (SR alert through email/mobile APP) R

Re: Automation of Windows app?

2015-08-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-08-30, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Sun, 30 Aug 2015 07:25:55 -0700, ryguy7272 writes: > >>I know this is an old post, but anyway, can't you just use Windows Scheduler? >>http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/schedule-task#1TC=windows-7 > > I think you may have missed the

Re: Automation of Windows app?

2015-08-30 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sun, 30 Aug 2015 07:25:55 -0700, ryguy7272 writes: >I know this is an old post, but anyway, can't you just use Windows Scheduler? >http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/schedule-task#1TC=windows-7 I think you may have missed the original post, where poor old Grant Edwards sai

Re: Automation of Windows app?

2015-08-30 Thread ryguy7272
On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 9:14:38 PM UTC-4, alex23 wrote: > On 23/03/2015 1:43 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: > > As near as I can tell the standard go-to utility for this is a program > > called AutoIt. https://www.autoitscript.com/site/autoit/ > > > > Nothing to do with Python, and its scripting

Re: Automation of Windows app?

2015-03-31 Thread alex23
On 23/03/2015 1:43 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: As near as I can tell the standard go-to utility for this is a program called AutoIt. https://www.autoitscript.com/site/autoit/ Nothing to do with Python, and its scripting language is maybe not that appealing to many, but it does the job, and does i

Re: Automation of Windows app?

2015-03-23 Thread Albert-Jan Roskam
-- On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 6:41 PM CET Emile van Sebille wrote: >On 3/20/2015 10:55 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> I need to automate operation of a Windows application. > >I've been productively using python to create macro scheduler [1] scripts to >automate windows prog

Re: Automation of Windows app?

2015-03-22 Thread Jacob Kruger
- Original Message - From: "Michael Torrie" To: Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 5:43 AM Subject: Re: Automation of Windows app? Nothing to do with Python, and its scripting language is maybe not that appealing to many, but it does the job, and does it pretty well. I fir

Re: Automation of Windows app?

2015-03-22 Thread Rustom Mody
On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 6:32:26 AM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 22/03/2015 23:54, vern.muhr wrote: > > Check out Sikuli at www.sikuli.org. It is an amazing program, and it is > > scripted in Python (Jython actually)! > > > > Good luck. > > > > Only 2.7 again, when are we going to ban

Re: Automation of Windows app?

2015-03-22 Thread Michael Torrie
On 03/20/2015 12:10 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2015-03-20, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> I need to automate operation of a Windows application. > > I should have mentioned that I've found and am going to experiment > a bit with pywinauto-0.4.0, but if there is anything else I should > look at, su

Re: Automation of Windows app?

2015-03-22 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 22/03/2015 23:54, vern.m...@gmail.com wrote: Check out Sikuli at www.sikuli.org. It is an amazing program, and it is scripted in Python (Jython actually)! Good luck. Only 2.7 again, when are we going to ban Luddites from this list? :) -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language c

Re: Automation of Windows app?

2015-03-22 Thread vern . muhr
Check out Sikuli at www.sikuli.org. It is an amazing program, and it is scripted in Python (Jython actually)! Good luck. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Automation of Windows app?

2015-03-22 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 3/20/2015 10:55 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: I need to automate operation of a Windows application. I've been productively using python to create macro scheduler [1] scripts to automate windows programs for years. A sample script: Press Alt Send Character/Text>cu Release Alt WaitWindowOpen>

Re: Automation of Windows app?

2015-03-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-03-20, Jerry Hill wrote: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Grant Edwards > wrote: >> I need to automate operation of a Windows application. > > I've used Sikuli (http://www.sikuli.org/) for similar things in the > past. It's an automation framework

Re: Automation of Windows app?

2015-03-20 Thread Jerry Hill
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > I need to automate operation of a Windows application. I've used Sikuli (http://www.sikuli.org/) for similar things in the past. It's an automation framework built on Jython, and it worked great for what I needed at the t

Re: Automation of Windows app?

2015-03-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-03-20, Grant Edwards wrote: > I need to automate operation of a Windows application. I should have mentioned that I've found and am going to experiment a bit with pywinauto-0.4.0, but if there is anything else I should look at, suggestions would be welcome. -- Grant Edwards

Automation of Windows app?

2015-03-20 Thread Grant Edwards
[I thought I'd seen a discussion of this recently, but I can't seem to find the right keyword.] I need to automate operation of a Windows application. It's a conformance test app from a standards organizaiton, and it's _stunningly_ bad. You have to sit it front of it like some sort of brainless

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ANN: 'tsshbatch' Server Automation Tool Version 1.204 Released

2014-12-05 Thread Tim Daneliuk
was 1.177. - What Is 'tsshbatch'? 'tsshbatch' is a server automation tool to enable you to issue commands to many servers without having to log into each one separately. When writing scripts, this

Re: Need help in Python automation

2014-03-21 Thread Adnan Sadzak
nal mode. Those modes' prompts are '*>' and > '*#'. > > Can somebody suggest me, if there is any module which I can use to execute > commands inside a switch. > > I don't want to use 'socket' module as I am not connecting the box and > executing co

Need help in Python automation

2014-03-21 Thread Anil Kumar A
not connecting the box and executing commands. I am running the script inside switch. Please give some clue to start my automation. Thanks! Anil Kumar A - -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python powerpoint automation using pywin32

2014-02-25 Thread sffjunkie
On Tuesday, 25 February 2014 03:52:29 UTC, Jaydeep Patil wrote: > I need to use COM interface for PowerPoint generation. The following will get you started http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/sanand0/ipython-notebooks/blob/master/Office.ipynb Then you'll need to interpret the Microsoft MSDN docs

Re: Python powerpoint automation using pywin32

2014-02-25 Thread Mark Lawrence
powerpoint. Is any link or document available which help me to do this work more effectivey & faster. Always remember, PyPi is your friend. I've not used it but the following is available which works with Microsoft's XML based document types. It is not automation per s

Docs related python powerpoint automation using pywin32

2014-02-24 Thread Jaydeep Patil
Hi, Required help regarding python powerpoint automation using pywin32. provide some reference or guides? Regards Jaydeep -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python powerpoint automation using pywin32

2014-02-24 Thread Jaydeep Patil
; > > > > > Is any link or document available which help me to do this work more > > effectivey & faster. > > > > Always remember, PyPi is your friend. > > > > I've not used it but the following is available which works with Microsoft&

Re: Python powerpoint automation using pywin32

2014-02-24 Thread sffjunkie
mp; faster. Always remember, PyPi is your friend. I've not used it but the following is available which works with Microsoft's XML based document types. It is not automation per se (and doesn't use pywin32) but a library for pptx document manipulation. https://pypi.python.or

Python powerpoint automation using pywin32

2014-02-24 Thread Jaydeep Patil
I need to create a new powerpoint presentation. I need to add images, paste some graphs, add texts, tables into powerpoint. Is any link or document available which help me to do this work more effectivey & faster. Regards Jay -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Launching Helium: A Selenium wrapper that makes web automation 50% easier

2013-12-16 Thread Michael Herrmann
On Monday, December 16, 2013 12:40:56 PM UTC+1, larry@gmail.com wrote: ... > Is this open source? No. We quit our daytime jobs to work on this project and need the income to sustain our development... -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Launching Helium: A Selenium wrapper that makes web automation 50% easier

2013-12-16 Thread Larry Martell
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 5:17 AM, Michael Herrmann wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm working for a startup called BugFree Software and would like to announce > that today we're launching our second product! > > Helium is a library that wraps around Selenium to simplify web

Launching Helium: A Selenium wrapper that makes web automation 50% easier

2013-12-16 Thread Michael Herrmann
Hi everyone, I'm working for a startup called BugFree Software and would like to announce that today we're launching our second product! Helium is a library that wraps around Selenium to simplify web automation. It does away with many of the technicalities involved with web scri

Automation P-I-D

2013-11-23 Thread Renato Barbosa Pim Pereira
I mentioned some time ago about a program to calculate PID constants for tuning controllers, follow the link to its online version algorithm for anyone interested http://pastebin.com/wAqZmVnR I thank you for the help I received from many here on the list. ;D -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/list

Re: Off-topic: Aussie place names [was Re: Automation]

2013-11-20 Thread Tim Delaney
On 21 November 2013 11:58, Steven D'Aprano < steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: > > For a serious look at Australian placenames named after Australian > Aboriginal words, see wikipedia: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_place_names_of_Aboriginal_origin Just noticed t

Off-topic: Aussie place names [was Re: Automation]

2013-11-20 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:58:27 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:48:10 +1100, Chris Angelico > declaimed the following: > >>Anyway, we Aussies know more about your geography than you know about >>ours, I reckon. Which of these is not a real place: Parramatta, >>Warrnambool,

Re: Automation

2013-11-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-11-20, Walter Hurry wrote: > On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 03:33:02 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> But the actual fake is Cerinabbin > > You might have included Woolloomooloo in the list! Anybody from the early days of TCP/IP networking on PC-DOS and Mac OS would also recognize Wollongong even i

Re: Automation

2013-11-20 Thread Walter Hurry
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 03:33:02 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > But the actual fake is Cerinabbin You might have included Woolloomooloo in the list! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Automation

2013-11-20 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Tim Golden wrote: > On 20/11/2013 16:19, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:14 AM, Grant Edwards >> wrote: >>> On 2013-11-19, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> Anyway, we Aussies know more about your geography than you know about ours, I reckon

Re: Automation

2013-11-20 Thread Tim Golden
On 20/11/2013 16:19, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:14 AM, Grant Edwards > wrote: >> On 2013-11-19, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> Anyway, we Aussies know more about your geography than you know about >>> ours, I reckon. Which of these is not a real place: Parramatta, >>> Warrna

Re: Automation

2013-11-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-11-19, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Alister wrote: >> and if you haven't seen it before :- >> >> Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in >> waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht >> the frist and lsat l

Re: Automation

2013-11-20 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:14 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2013-11-19, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> Anyway, we Aussies know more about your geography than you know about >> ours, I reckon. Which of these is not a real place: Parramatta, >> Warrnambool, Cerinabbin, Mordialloc? No fair Googling them,

Re: Automation

2013-11-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-11-19, Chris Angelico wrote: > Anyway, we Aussies know more about your geography than you know about > ours, I reckon. Which of these is not a real place: Parramatta, > Warrnambool, Cerinabbin, Mordialloc? No fair Googling them, see if you > can call it. Next thing you'll be telling us t

Re: Automation

2013-11-20 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 2:06 AM, MRAB wrote: >> You need to distinguish between "Scottish English" and "Scots", the >> latter being related to English, but isn't English, much as Danish is >> related to Swedish, but isn't Swedish. > > Ah. W

Re: Automation

2013-11-20 Thread Chris Angelico
Here's a response from a full-blooded Scot on the subject. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Derrick McCLURE wrote: > No, Chris, you haven't been led astray. The language is referred to as > Scots, not Scottish. There is an academic journal called Scottish Language, > which I edited for many yea

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 2:06 AM, MRAB wrote: > You need to distinguish between "Scottish English" and "Scots", the > latter being related to English, but isn't English, much as Danish is > related to Swedish, but isn't Swedish. Ah. When I referred to a "Scots" word, I was talking about the Gaelic

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread MRAB
On 19/11/2013 12:59, Alister wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 23:52:09 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Alister wrote: the language & nationality is Scottish, the people are Scots & Scotch is a type of whisky. Hmm, I don't know that it's that clear-cut (other than th

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Tim Golden wrote: > On 19/11/2013 13:50, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> On 19/11/2013 10:48, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> >>> Anyway, we Aussies know more about your geography than you know about >>> ours, I reckon. Which of these is not a real place: Parramatta, >>> Warrna

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 19/11/2013 13:55, Tim Golden wrote: On 19/11/2013 13:50, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 19/11/2013 10:48, Chris Angelico wrote: Anyway, we Aussies know more about your geography than you know about ours, I reckon. Which of these is not a real place: Parramatta, Warrnambool, Cerinabbin, Mordialloc?

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Tim Golden
On 19/11/2013 13:50, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 19/11/2013 10:48, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> Anyway, we Aussies know more about your geography than you know about >> ours, I reckon. Which of these is not a real place: Parramatta, >> Warrnambool, Cerinabbin, Mordialloc? No fair Googling them, see if

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 19/11/2013 10:48, Chris Angelico wrote: Anyway, we Aussies know more about your geography than you know about ours, I reckon. Which of these is not a real place: Parramatta, Warrnambool, Cerinabbin, Mordialloc? No fair Googling them, see if you can call it. I've been to three of the above pla

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Alister
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 23:52:09 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Alister > wrote: >> the language & nationality is Scottish, the people are Scots & Scotch >> is a type of whisky. > > Hmm, I don't know that it's that clear-cut (other than the drink). > Derrick McClure

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Alister
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 23:52:09 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Alister > wrote: >> the language & nationality is Scottish, the people are Scots & Scotch >> is a type of whisky. > > Hmm, I don't know that it's that clear-cut (other than the drink). > Derrick McClure

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Alister
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 23:52:09 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Alister > wrote: >> the language & nationality is Scottish, the people are Scots & Scotch >> is a type of whisky. > > Hmm, I don't know that it's that clear-cut (other than the drink). > Derrick McClure

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Alister
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 23:52:09 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Alister > wrote: >> the language & nationality is Scottish, the people are Scots & Scotch >> is a type of whisky. > > Hmm, I don't know that it's that clear-cut (other than the drink). > Derrick McClure

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Alister wrote: > the language & nationality is Scottish, the people are Scots & Scotch is > a type of whisky. Hmm, I don't know that it's that clear-cut (other than the drink). Derrick McClure is himself a Scot, and he posted this on Savoynet: https://mailman.br

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Alister
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 22:58:35 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Walter Hurry > wrote: >> On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:48:10 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> I guessed Scots for the second one because it didn't look Welsh and it >>> seemed plausible to get a mostly-Engli

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: > On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:48:10 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> I guessed Scots for the second one because it >> didn't look Welsh and it seemed plausible to get a mostly-English >> paragraph with one Welsh name and one Scots word. > > The wor

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Walter Hurry
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:48:10 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > I guessed Scots for the second one because it > didn't look Welsh and it seemed plausible to get a mostly-English > paragraph with one Welsh name and one Scots word. The word is *Scottish*. I think that's what Mark was driving at. -- h

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 19/11/2013 09:26, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> >> It couldn't figure out "Absytrytewh", "picsbeliud", or >> "hnasoa/tw.nartswdbvweos/utrtek:p./il". That's not a bad result. (And >> as a human, I'm guessing that the second one isn't an Engli

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 19/11/2013 09:26, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> >> It couldn't figure out "Absytrytewh", "picsbeliud", or >> "hnasoa/tw.nartswdbvweos/utrtek:p./il". That's not a bad result. (And >> as a human, I'm guessing that the second one isn't an Engli

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 19/11/2013 09:26, Chris Angelico wrote: It couldn't figure out "Absytrytewh", "picsbeliud", or "hnasoa/tw.nartswdbvweos/utrtek:p./il". That's not a bad result. (And as a human, I'm guessing that the second one isn't an English word - maybe it's Scots?) Here's the code: I sense another lett

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 19/11/2013 08:53, Ian Kelly wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Alister wrote: and if you haven't seen it before :- Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:26 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > It couldn't figure out "Absytrytewh", "picsbeliud", or > "hnasoa/tw.nartswdbvweos/utrtek:p./il". That's not a bad result. (And > as a human, I'm guessing that the second one isn't an English word - > maybe it's Scots?) Here's the code: It's

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: > Aoilegpos for aidnoptg a cdocianorttry vwpiienot but, ttoheliacrley > spkeaing, lgitehnneng the words can mnartafucue an iocnuurgons > samenttet that is vlrtiauly isbpilechmoenrne. isbpilechmoenrne. I totally want to find an excuse to use that w

Re: Automation

2013-11-19 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Alister wrote: > and if you haven't seen it before :- > > Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in > waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht > the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset ca

Re: Automation

2013-11-18 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 19:23:11 +1300, Gregory Ewing wrote: > Neil Cerutti wrote: >> Written English probably changes much slower than spoken English, and >> we have the curmudgeon's to thank. > > The curmudgeon's what? :-) The curmudgeon's cudgel of course. *wack* "Will you speak proper now or wo

Re: Automation

2013-11-18 Thread Gregory Ewing
Neil Cerutti wrote: Written English probably changes much slower than spoken English, and we have the curmudgeon's to thank. The curmudgeon's what? :-) -- Greg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: grammar (was Re: Automation)

2013-11-18 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 16/11/2013 17:02, Paul Smith wrote: On Sat, 2013-11-16 at 10:11 -0500, Roy Smith wrote: In article , William Ray Wing wrote: And my personal peeve - using it's (contraction) when its (possessive) should have been used; occasionally vice-versa. And one of mine is when people write, "H

Re: Automation

2013-11-18 Thread David Robinow
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > ... > I don't make those mistakes typing on a phone (where I have to > actually think about the act of typing), but I do make them with a > regular keyboard, where I don't have to think about mechanics of > typing the words. > > OTOH, maybe

Re: Automation

2013-11-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-11-16, Larry Hudson wrote: >> And yes, people can _easily_ tell the difference between errors >> caused by being lazy/sloppy and errors caused by writing in a second >> language. >> > Not to start another flame-war (I hope), but our Greek friend is a > good example of that. It's not surp

Re: Automation

2013-11-18 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2013-11-16, Larry Hudson wrote: > However, that's just a side comment. I wanted to mention my > personal peeve... > > I notice it's surprisingly common for people who are native > English-speakers to use 'to' in place of 'too' (to little, to > late.), "your" in place of "you're" (Your an idiot

Re: grammar (was Re: Automation)

2013-11-16 Thread Andrew Berg
On 2013.11.16 22:16, Chris Angelico wrote: > I decided a while ago that my life would be alot better[1] For those who haven't yet seen it: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html -- CPython 3.3.2 | Windows NT 6.2.9200 / FreeBSD 10.0 -- https://ma

Re: grammar (was Re: Automation)

2013-11-16 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 3:07 PM, MRAB wrote: > On 17/11/2013 03:44, Andrew Berg wrote: >> >> On 2013.11.16 11:02, Paul Smith wrote: >>> >>> The one that really irks me is people using "loose" when they mean >>> "lose". These words are not related, and they don't sound the >>> same. Plus this mist

Re: grammar (was Re: Automation)

2013-11-16 Thread MRAB
On 17/11/2013 03:44, Andrew Berg wrote: On 2013.11.16 11:02, Paul Smith wrote: The one that really irks me is people using "loose" when they mean "lose". These words are not related, and they don't sound the same. Plus this mistake is very common; I typically see it at least once a day. Don't

Re: grammar (was Re: Automation)

2013-11-16 Thread Andrew Berg
On 2013.11.16 11:02, Paul Smith wrote: > The one that really irks me is people using "loose" when they mean > "lose". These words are not related, and they don't sound the same. > Plus this mistake is very common; I typically see it at least once a > day. Don't be surprised if such people pronounc

grammar (was Re: Automation)

2013-11-16 Thread Paul Smith
On Sat, 2013-11-16 at 10:11 -0500, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > William Ray Wing wrote: > > > And my personal peeve - using it's (contraction) when its (possessive) > > should have been used; occasionally vice-versa. > And one of mine is when people write, "Here, here!" to signify > agr

Re: Automation

2013-11-16 Thread Roy Smith
In article , William Ray Wing wrote: > And my personal peeve - using it's (contraction) when its (possessive) > should have been used; occasionally vice-versa. And one of mine is when people write, "Here, here!" to signify agreement. What they really mean to write is, "Hear, hear!", meaning

Re: Automation

2013-11-16 Thread William Ray Wing
On Nov 16, 2013, at 1:17 AM, Larry Hudson wrote: [byte] > > However, that's just a side comment. I wanted to mention my personal peeve... > > I notice it's surprisingly common for people who are native English-speakers > to use 'to' in place of 'too' (to little, to late.), "your" in place of

Re: Automation

2013-11-16 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 16/11/2013 02:01, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: Given that "English" contains remnants of latin (from the Roman occupation), saxons (a germanic tribe), angles (another germanic tribe), danish (after the joining of the anglo-saxon), other vikings (norse), then the norman invasion (which was

Re: Automation

2013-11-15 Thread Larry Hudson
On 11/15/2013 07:02 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2013-11-15, Paul Rudin wrote: Steven D'Aprano writes: A few minor errors is one thing, but when you see people whose posts are full of error after error and an apparent inability to get English syntax right, you have to wonder how on earth they

Re: Automation

2013-11-15 Thread Tim Chase
On 2013-11-15 13:43, xDog Walker wrote: > On Friday 2013 November 15 06:58, Grant Edwards wrote: > > There are people (not many in this group) who grew up speaking > > English and really ought to apologize for their writing -- but > > they never do. > > Can you supply an example of the form such

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