Re: Code hosting providers

2015-03-13 Thread Rustom Mody
On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 9:15:39 AM UTC+5:30, Paul Rubin wrote: > Mario Figueiredo writes: > >>Question: How much money is this group, taken as the whole of the python > >>world, spending on remote hosting per month? > > I'd wager very little, since most options are completely free. > > Oh

Re: Code hosting providers

2015-03-13 Thread Paul Rubin
Mario Figueiredo writes: >>Question: How much money is this group, taken as the whole of the python >>world, spending on remote hosting per month? > I'd wager very little, since most options are completely free. Oh come on, if you count all forms of hosting, some of us are spending a lot (megab

Re: Code hosting providers

2015-03-13 Thread Mario Figueiredo
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 23:13:17 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> >> That's taking things too far. And when people speak of hosting your >> own server, they don't necessarily mean hosting in your home computer. >> Speaking for myself, I refuse to collaborate on any project that is >> hosted on some dud

Re: Code hosting providers

2015-03-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 13 March 2015 20:48:36 Mario Figueiredo wrote: > On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 19:38:09 -0400, Gene Heskett > > wrote: > >Running your own server is a piece of cake, and if I, at 80 yo, can > > do it, I don't see a single reason you can't do likewise. The code > > I write, for what is called a

Re: Code hosting providers

2015-03-13 Thread Paul Rubin
Mario Figueiredo writes: > That's taking things too far. And when people speak of hosting your > own server, they don't necessarily mean hosting in your home computer. > Speaking for myself, I refuse to collaborate on any project that is > hosted on some dude's personal computer. Meh, you don't

Re: Code hosting providers

2015-03-13 Thread Mario Figueiredo
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 19:38:09 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >Running your own server is a piece of cake, and if I, at 80 yo, can do >it, I don't see a single reason you can't do likewise. The code I >write, for what is called a legacy computer, is just one of the things I >share at the link in

Re: Code hosting providers

2015-03-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 13 March 2015 17:13:41 Paul Rubin wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: > > In the meantime, I get zero-dollar hosting of my repos, including > > zip download and such ... You're welcome to shun them. There is > > definitely benefit to encouraging a multiplicity of hosting > > services. But

Re: Code hosting providers

2015-03-13 Thread Paul Rubin
Ben Finney writes: > Also worth watching is Kallithea, a new federated code hosting service ... > Good hunting in finding a free-software code hosting provider for your > projects! Should also put in a mention for Savannah (savannah.gnu.org for GNU projects and savannah.nongnu.org for non-GNU fre

Re: Code hosting providers

2015-03-13 Thread Paul Rubin
Chris Angelico writes: > In the meantime, I get zero-dollar hosting of my repos, including zip > download and such ... You're welcome to shun them. There is > definitely benefit to encouraging a multiplicity of hosting > services. But I'm not bothered by the GitHub non-free-ness, because I > take

Re: Code hosting providers

2015-03-13 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > If you had said, "Sometimes it's worth using a non-federated service, and > risking vendor lock-in, because the extra features they provide are just > that good" then I'd accept that. That makes sense. I don't like it, but > that's the busi

Re: Code hosting providers (was: Google Code Shutting Down)

2015-03-13 Thread Mario Figueiredo
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 12:37:30 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > >Any service which doesn't run their service on free software is one to >avoid http://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html>; free software >projects need free tools to remain that way. > > >GitLab https://about.gitlab.com/> is a good option:

Re: Code hosting providers

2015-03-13 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Chris Angelico wrote: > It's worth noting, by the way, that sometimes it's worth using a > non-federated service. I host most of my projects on GitHub, because > the git repo is the part that's most important to me. I don't heavily > use the bug tracker attached to any of those projects, nor the >

Re: Code hosting providers

2015-03-13 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: > Thanks for that informative post: I've been uncomfortable with the reach > of Github and you've done a good job explaining the reasons. > > I personally use self-hosted git repositories on cheap VPS servers which > is easy to do, but doesn't sup

Re: Code hosting providers

2015-03-12 Thread Paul Rubin
Ben Finney writes: > Any service which doesn't run their service on free software is one to > avoid http://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html>; free software > projects need free tools to remain that way. > > GitLab https://about.gitlab.com/> is a good option: they provide > VCS, file hosting, w

Re: Code hosting providers

2015-03-12 Thread Ben Finney
Michael Torrie writes: > On 03/12/2015 09:17 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > What do you mean by "federated"? > > I think it's a fancy way of saying you can run your own instance of the > full web system on your own server under your own domain name. With the corollary that *any* vendor motivated

Re: Code hosting providers

2015-03-12 Thread Ben Finney
Steven D'Aprano writes: > Ben Finney wrote: > > > Also worth watching is Kallithea, a new federated code hosting service > > https://kallithea-scm.org/>. It supports Mercurial and Git for VCS, > > code review, and integrates with existing issue trackers. Because it's > > federated, you won't suff

Re: Code hosting providers

2015-03-12 Thread Michael Torrie
On 03/12/2015 09:17 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Ben Finney wrote: >> Also worth watching is Kallithea, a new federated code hosting service >> https://kallithea-scm.org/>. It supports Mercurial and Git for VCS, >> code review, and integrates with existing issue trackers. Because it's >> federated,

Re: Code hosting providers (was: Google Code Shutting Down)

2015-03-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Ben Finney wrote: > Also worth watching is Kallithea, a new federated code hosting service > https://kallithea-scm.org/>. It supports Mercurial and Git for VCS, > code review, and integrates with existing issue trackers. Because it's > federated, you won't suffer from vendor lock-in. What do you

Code hosting providers (was: Google Code Shutting Down)

2015-03-12 Thread Ben Finney
Mario Figueiredo writes: > On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 15:26:08 -0700 (PDT), Josh English > wrote: > > > What is the recommended replacement for Code Hosting that works > > reliably with PyPi and pip? > > Essentially anywhere where either Git, Bazaar, Mercurial or Subversion > are supported. Installing