Re: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

2010-05-22 Thread Fabio Zadrozny
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Joel Koltner wrote: > Just curious... in Microsoft's Visual Studio (and I would presume some other > tools), for many languages (both interpreted and compiled!) there's an "edit > and conitnue" option that, when you hit a breakpoint, allows you to modify a > line o

Re: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

2010-05-15 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message , Joel Koltner wrote: > Just curious... in Microsoft's Visual Studio (and I would presume some > other tools), for many languages (both interpreted and compiled!) there's > an "edit and conitnue" option that, when you hit a breakpoint, allows you > to modify a line of code before it's

Re: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

2010-05-13 Thread Michiel Overtoom
On 2010-05-13 00:07, Joel Koltner wrote: Hey, a lot of people would argue that Python's lack of strong typing and data/member protection (from one class to another) encourages sloppy programming too. :-) You're being ironic, aren't you? Python does have strong typing (many people confuse tha

Re: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

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Re: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

2010-05-12 Thread Phlip
On May 12, 3:03 pm, "Joel Koltner" wrote: > Pretty much, yeah... Realistically, we're probably talking less than a minute > each time, so objectively it's not really a big deal -- it's just different > than what I'm used to so I'm noticing it more. :-) > > I guess what I'm realizing here is that

Re: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

2010-05-12 Thread Joel Koltner
"John Nagle" wrote in message news:4beb15c5$0$1634$742ec...@news.sonic.net... Having actually used LISP systems with "edit and continue", it's a good thing that Python doesn't have it. It encourages a "patch" mentality, and the resulting code is usually disappointing. Hey, a lot of people

Re: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

2010-05-12 Thread Joel Koltner
"Phlip" wrote in message news:c014ae9f-99d8-4857-a3f7-e6ac16e45...@e34g2000pra.googlegroups.com... Are you implying, after an edit, you need to start a program again, then enter several user inputs, to navigate back to the place where you hit the syntax error? (WxWidgets noted - props!) Pretty

RE: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

2010-05-12 Thread Sandy Sandy
maybe ipython? http://showmedo.com/videos/video?name=120&fromSeriesID=100 > From: zapwiredashgro...@yahoo.com > Subject: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?" > Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 10:42:31 -0700 > To: python-list@python.org > > Just curious

Re: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

2010-05-12 Thread John Nagle
Joel Koltner wrote: Just curious... in Microsoft's Visual Studio (and I would presume some other tools), for many languages (both interpreted and compiled!) there's an "edit and conitnue" option that, when you hit a breakpoint, allows you to modify a line of code before it's actually executed.

Re: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

2010-05-12 Thread Phlip
On May 12, 1:38 pm, "Joel Koltner" wrote: > Well, sure, that is the current fix... but an "edit and continue" feature > would make for a much faster fix. :-) Are you implying, after an edit, you need to start a program again, then enter several user inputs, to navigate back to the place where yo

Re: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

2010-05-12 Thread Joel Koltner
"Phlip" wrote in message news:75c050d2-365e-4b08-8716-884ed5473...@k25g2000prh.googlegroups.com... On May 12, 12:44 pm, "Joel Koltner" wrote: Are you implying that you then run the code, and - after a handful of higher-level calls - control flow gets down to the lines you just typed, and the r

Re: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

2010-05-12 Thread Phlip
On May 12, 12:44 pm, "Joel Koltner" wrote: > I find myself making mistakes in typing the name of classes and/or methods > when I'm first getting started with them (there are some thousands of them > after all, and even of commonly used classes/methods you're probably talking > upwards of a hundre

Re: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

2010-05-12 Thread Joel Koltner
"Phlip" wrote in message news:d580dece-bd42-4753-a0c6-783ce69b5...@m31g2000pre.googlegroups.com... People who need "edit and continue" probably need developer tests instead. You typically edit the test a little, run all the code, edit the code a little, run all the code, and integrate whenever t

Re: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

2010-05-12 Thread Phlip
On May 12, 10:42 am, "Joel Koltner" wrote: > Does any Python debugger support this feature? I have worked for >3 years by now in Python and have never once debugged. People who need "edit and continue" probably need developer tests instead. You typically edit the test a little, run all the code

Re: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

2010-05-12 Thread Lie Ryan
On 05/13/10 03:42, Joel Koltner wrote: > Just curious... in Microsoft's Visual Studio (and I would presume some > other tools), for many languages (both interpreted and compiled!) > there's an "edit and conitnue" option that, when you hit a breakpoint, > allows you to modify a line of code before i

Re: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

2010-05-12 Thread Joel Koltner
"Terry Reedy" wrote in message news:mailman.119.1273690025.32709.python-l...@python.org... CPython compiles Python code (a sequence of statements) to its private bytecode (a sequence of codes and operands) and then interprets the bytecode. So 'edit and continue' would have to recompile the stat

Re: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

2010-05-12 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/12/2010 1:42 PM, Joel Koltner wrote: Just curious... in Microsoft's Visual Studio (and I would presume some other tools), for many languages (both interpreted and compiled!) there's an "edit and conitnue" option that, when you hit a breakpoint, allows you to modify a line of code before it's

Re: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

2010-05-12 Thread Stef Mientki
On 12-05-2010 19:42, Joel Koltner wrote: > Just curious... in Microsoft's Visual Studio (and I would presume some > other tools), for many languages (both interpreted and compiled!) > there's an "edit and conitnue" option that, when you hit a breakpoint, > allows you to modify a line of code before

RE: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

2010-05-12 Thread Sandy Sandy
) but it is not working, bug?? Sandy > From: zapwiredashgro...@yahoo.com > Subject: Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?" > Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 10:42:31 -0700 > To: python-list@python.org > > Just curious... in Microsoft's Visual Studio (and I would

Do any debuggers support "edit and continue?"

2010-05-12 Thread Joel Koltner
Just curious... in Microsoft's Visual Studio (and I would presume some other tools), for many languages (both interpreted and compiled!) there's an "edit and conitnue" option that, when you hit a breakpoint, allows you to modify a line of code before it's actually executed. Does any Python deb