Alex Barna writes:
> I know that this question has been asked for several times,
[…]
> So what happens to this field (Windows GUI automation [with Python]) ?
Alex Barna writes:
> It makes me doubt: is Python the correct language to do GUI
> automation ?
Your questions are definitely on-topic
I'm afraid that my first post has not been understood correctly and
most of the following posts are OT, as Ben Finney indicated.
The GUI automation has a long history, perhaps since the first
windowing system was invented. For years I've been doing this using
several different technologies/languag
On Aug 9, 8:10 am, Alex Barna wrote:
> I know that this question has been asked for several times, but it
> surprises that there is no tool under very active development and the
> community activities are very low (mailing list posts).
>
> All the tools listed in:
>
> http://pycheesecake.org/wiki/
On 2010-08-11, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message , Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> ... nobody's talking about using automated testing to figure out
>> what users think.
>
> That???s the trouble. What???s the point of a GUI, then?
OK, now you're just trolling.
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Grant Edwards gr
On 2010-08-11, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Mouse and keyboard event recording software used to be one of the killer
> apps for power users back in the days of classic Apple Mac and early
> versions of Windows. I'm not entirely sure why they've faded away... it
It faided away because automation ba
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 06:12:49 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
> Automating a GUI
> isn't done to test how well the GUI works for real users.
Or to put it another way... automated tests aren't useful for usability
testing, regardless of whether one is testing a GUI app or a CLI app.
> It's done main
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 18:50:15 +1200, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message , Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> ... nobody's talking about using automated testing to figure out what
>> users think.
>
> That’s the trouble. What’s the point of a GUI, then?
Are you trolling, or do you really fail to under
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2010-08-11, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message
, Alex
Barna wrote:
On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Can???t understand the point to it. ???GUI automation??? is a contradiction in
terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans to do man
Lawrence D'Oliveiro writes:
> In message , Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> > ... nobody's talking about using automated testing to figure out
> > what users think.
>
> That’s the trouble. What’s the point of a GUI, then?
I've no idea what you're asking any more. The above response seems like
a total no
In message , Grant Edwards wrote:
> ... nobody's talking about using automated testing to figure out
> what users think.
That’s the trouble. What’s the point of a GUI, then?
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On 2010-08-11, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message , Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> Automated GUI intended to uncover problems in the underlying program
>> functionality ...
>
> That ???underlying??? functionality has nothing to do with the GUI,
> then. Why not test it directly, rather than go thro
On 2010-08-11, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message , Robert
> Kern wrote:
>
>> On 2010-08-10 21:57 , Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> In message
>>> , Alex
>>> Barna wrote:
>>>
On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> Can???t understand the point to it. ???GUI automation??? i
Lawrence D'Oliveiro writes:
> In message , Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> > Automated GUI intended to uncover problems in the underlying program
> > functionality ...
>
> That “underlying” functionality has nothing to do with the GUI, then. Why
> not test it directly, rather than go through the GUI?
In message , Grant Edwards wrote:
> Automated GUI intended to uncover problems in the underlying program
> functionality ...
That “underlying” functionality has nothing to do with the GUI, then. Why
not test it directly, rather than go through the GUI?
> Automated GUI testing often isn't even b
In message , Robert
Kern wrote:
> On 2010-08-10 21:57 , Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> In message
>> , Alex
>> Barna wrote:
>>
>>> On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>>
Can’t understand the point to it. “GUI automation” is a contradiction
in terms, because a GUI is designed for
Lawrence D'Oliveiro writes:
> Alex Barna wrote:
>
> > On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> >
> >> Can’t understand the point to it. “GUI automation” is a
> >> contradiction in terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans
> >> to do manual tasks, not ones that can be automated.
> >
>
On 2010-08-10 21:59 , Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message<4c61a4f5$0$5804$426a3...@news.free.fr>, News123 wrote:
On 08/10/2010 12:25 PM, Alex Barna wrote:
On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Can’t understand the point to it. “GUI automation” is a contradiction in
terms, because a GUI
On 2010-08-10 21:57 , Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message
, Alex
Barna wrote:
On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Can’t understand the point to it. “GUI automation” is a contradiction in
terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans to do manual tasks,
not ones that can be automat
On 2010-08-11, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message <4c61a4f5$0$5804$426a3...@news.free.fr>, News123 wrote:
>> On 08/10/2010 12:25 PM, Alex Barna wrote:
>>> On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>>
Can???t understand the point to it. ???GUI automation??? is a
contradiction in term
On 2010-08-11, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message
>, Alex
> Barna wrote:
>
>> On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>
>>> Can???t understand the point to it. ???GUI automation??? is a contradiction
>>> in
>>> terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans to do manual tasks,
>>> not
In message <4c61a4f5$0$5804$426a3...@news.free.fr>, News123 wrote:
> On 08/10/2010 12:25 PM, Alex Barna wrote:
>
>> On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>
>>> Can’t understand the point to it. “GUI automation” is a contradiction in
>>> terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans to do
In message
, Alex
Barna wrote:
> On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>
>> Can’t understand the point to it. “GUI automation” is a contradiction in
>> terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans to do manual tasks,
>> not ones that can be automated.
>
> Automating GUI is for testing.
On 08/10/10 20:13, News123 wrote:
On 08/10/2010 12:25 PM, Alex Barna wrote:
On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro> Can’t understand the point
to it. “GUI automation” is a contradiction in
terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans to do manual tasks, not
ones that can be automated.
On 08/10/2010 12:25 PM, Alex Barna wrote:
> On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Can’t understand the point
> to it. “GUI automation” is a contradiction in
>> terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans to do manual tasks, not
>> ones that can be automated.
>
> Automating GUI is for t
On Aug 10, 10:05 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Can’t understand the point
to it. “GUI automation” is a contradiction in
> terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans to do manual tasks, not
> ones that can be automated.
Automating GUI is for testing.
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On Aug 10, 5:56 am, alex23 wrote:
> Alex Barna wrote:
> > So what happens to this field (Windows GUI automation) ?
>
> Either someone cares enough to do something about it, or everyone just
> defaults to using AutoIT-like tools.
There were a lot of development but then all ceased, except pywinau
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:05:12 +1200, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message
> <56a18e2b-4967-4a63-852e-1eb53bb6e...@j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Alex
> Barna wrote:
>
>> So what happens to this field (Windows GUI automation) ?
>
> Can’t understand the point to it. “GUI automation” is a contradi
In message
<56a18e2b-4967-4a63-852e-1eb53bb6e...@j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Alex
Barna wrote:
> So what happens to this field (Windows GUI automation) ?
Can’t understand the point to it. “GUI automation” is a contradiction in
terms, because a GUI is designed for use by humans to do manual t
Alex Barna wrote:
> So what happens to this field (Windows GUI automation) ?
Either someone cares enough to do something about it, or everyone just
defaults to using AutoIT-like tools.
Which Python implementation are you planning on contributing to?
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I know that this question has been asked for several times, but it
surprises that there is no tool under very active development and the
community activities are very low (mailing list posts).
All the tools listed in:
http://pycheesecake.org/wiki/PythonTestingToolsTaxonomy#GUITestingTools
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