Re: GUI builders considered harmful (Was: anygui, anydb, any opinions?)

Mike Meyer: > The obvious solution would be for the system to detect all these > environmental factors, and scale the applications > accordingly. However, things like viewing distance and the quality of > my eyesight are hard to detect automatically, and it would be a pain > to have to enter all t

Re: GUI builders considered harmful (Was: anygui, anydb, any opinions?)

Chris Lambacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think you need to step out of the age of Motif and MFCs and look at > what modern toolkits and GUI designers have to offer before you start > in on a rant. Yeah, pretty much every fancy web page designer these days uses graphic tools like Dreamweaver

Re: GUI builders considered harmful (Was: anygui, anydb, any opinions?)

I think you missed looking at several GUI builders. I have not used a GUI builder in 5 years that had you nail down positions. Swing(for Java), GTK, Qt, and wxWidgets(to a lesser degree) all use a sizer metaphore. You lay out he sizers and put your widgets in various sizer layouts. This means t

Re: GUI builders considered harmful

Bruce Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > >> The first, and most obvious, thing that GUI builders do is force the >> developer to specify an exact position - if not size - for the >> graphical elements of the UI. > > They do? I don't remember

Re: GUI builders considered harmful

Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > The first, and most obvious, thing that GUI builders do is force the > developer to specify an exact position - if not size - for the > graphical elements of the UI. They do? I don't remember them doing that. I just downloaded SpecTcl (a oldish ex

Re: GUI builders considered harmful (Was: anygui, anydb, any opinions?)

On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 02:38:16PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: [...] > The first, and most obvious, thing that GUI builders do is force the > developer to specify an exact position - if not size - for the > graphical elements of the UI. [...] Certainly some---or even most---builders work like this.

GUI builders considered harmful (Was: anygui,anydb, any opinions?)

"Thomas Bartkus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Paul Rubin" wrote in message >> Are we talking about a drag-and-drop GUI builder? > I am! [...] > I happen to be one - and I *know* I'm not alone - who thinks that building > user interfaces is way too difficult and way too