[issue29820] Broken link to "GUI Programming with Python: QT Edition" book

Mariatta Wijaya added the comment: New changeset 1bb0f3762ec5104014aeed0ae6e9d64598d8fcac by Mariatta (Marco Buttu) in branch 'master': bpo-29820: othergui.rst: Remove outdated information (GH-685) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/1bb0f3762ec5104014aeed0ae6e9d64598d8fcac --

[issue29820] Broken link to "GUI Programming with Python: QT Edition" book

Mariatta Wijaya added the comment: New changeset 3fce38c540681a736b7e5ca7611758f7bc159c9e by Mariatta in branch '3.6': bpo-29820: othergui.rst: Remove outdated information (GH-685) (GH-688) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/3fce38c540681a736b7e5ca7611758f7bc159c9e --

[issue29820] Broken link to "GUI Programming with Python: QT Edition" book

Mariatta Wijaya added the comment: New changeset 091d90f9a429b81b046cb83582062941f8ded9da by Mariatta in branch '3.5': bpo-29820: othergui.rst: Remove outdated information (GH-685) (GH-689) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/091d90f9a429b81b046cb83582062941f8ded9da --

[issue29820] Broken link to "GUI Programming with Python: QT Edition" book

Mariatta Wijaya added the comment: Thanks Marco :) I merged your PR, and backported to 3.5 and 3.6. There are some merge conflict with the 2.7 branch, so I decided not to bother with it. -- resolution: -> fixed stage: needs patch -> resolved status: open -> closed versions: -Python

[issue29820] Broken link to "GUI Programming with Python: QT Edition" book

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[issue29820] Broken link to "GUI Programming with Python: QT Edition" book

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[issue29820] Broken link to "GUI Programming with Python: QT Edition" book

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[issue29820] Broken link to "GUI Programming with Python: QT Edition" book

Mariatta Wijaya added the comment: Thanks, Marco. That sounds good. Let's just remove the reference to the books from both PyQt and wxPython. -- keywords: +easy stage: -> needs patch ___ Python tracker

[issue29820] Broken link to "GUI Programming with Python: QT Edition" book

Marco Buttu added the comment: Hi Mariatta, all the other seealso entries (PyGObject, PySide, ...) have references to some specific books and tutorials. No one has a reference to the wiki, maybe because there is already a reference to it (at the end of the page). IMHO we can keep the PyQt

[issue29820] Broken link to "GUI Programming with Python: QT Edition" book

Mariatta Wijaya added the comment: Maybe instead of referencing to the books, we add reference to the wiki https://wiki.python.org/moin/PyQt -- nosy: +Mariatta versions: -Python 3.3, Python 3.4 ___ Python tracker

[issue29820] Broken link to "GUI Programming with Python: QT Edition" book

New submission from Marco Buttu: In [*] the link to "GUI Programming with Python: QT Edition by Boudewijn Rempt", does not work. I did not find an official web page for this book, but it is really outdated (2002), so maybe we can take only the reference to the Mark Summerfield's b

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On an actual operating system, the attitude of the developers (do they actually care or just don't give a darn) is *the* critical issue for end-user productivity. If a developer makes a statement such as of just get a faster computer or just get more RAM, then (s)he probably doesn't give

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

Le lundi 23 décembre 2013 18:59:41 UTC+1, Wolfgang Keller a écrit : On an actual operating system, the attitude of the developers (do they actually care or just don't give a darn) is *the* critical issue for end-user productivity. If a developer makes a statement such as of just

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 6:05 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Memory? Let me laugh! Is it a crime to hijack an already-hijacked thread? ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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On 23/12/2013 19:14, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 6:05 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Memory? Let me laugh! Is it a crime to hijack an already-hijacked thread? ChrisA Yes, especially when written with our favourite bug ridden pile of garbage. Perhaps we should write up

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Jai jaiprakashsingh...@gmail.com wrote: GUI:-want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed. There are lots of book here so I am confuse which book i should refer so

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Den 2013-12-20 skrev Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk: On 20/12/2013 17:52, Martin Schöön wrote: Coming from many years of SUN Solaris experience I may be a bit spoiled when it comes to robustness :-) You never had the pleasure of working on VMS then? :) Only very, very little and I

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

This thread hasn't been close to Python for while now and should be shut down. But, it is actually kind of interesting since you debate possible mechanisms behind the behaviour of my Windows box at work: Not responding is happening to me daily for any application including Microsoft's own Office

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 20/12/2013 17:52, Martin Schöön wrote: Coming from many years of SUN Solaris experience I may be a bit spoiled when it comes to robustness :-) You never had the pleasure of working on VMS then? :) -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

Le vendredi 20 décembre 2013 18:52:44 UTC+1, Martin Schöön a écrit : This thread hasn't been close to Python for while now and should be shut down. But, it is actually kind of interesting since you debate possible mechanisms behind the behaviour of my Windows box at work: Not

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Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 20:00:14 UTC+1, wxjm...@gmail.com a écrit : Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 19:06:35 UTC+1, Michael Torrie a écrit : On 12/17/2013 08:00 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: Python is sooo slow when it waits for the human. With Windows systems, I

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On 19/12/2013 08:10, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Same experience with PyQt4. Py 3.2 : PyQt4.QtCore.PYQT_VERSION_STR - 4.8.6 Py 3.3 : PyQt4.QtCore.PYQT_VERSION_STR - 4.10 jmf Your point being? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our

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Le jeudi 19 décembre 2013 09:25:14 UTC+1, Mark Lawrence a écrit : On 19/12/2013 08:10, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Same experience with PyQt4. Py 3.2 : PyQt4.QtCore.PYQT_VERSION_STR - 4.8.6 Py 3.3 : PyQt4.QtCore.PYQT_VERSION_STR - 4.10 jmf Your point

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On 19/12/2013 09:10, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Le jeudi 19 décembre 2013 09:25:14 UTC+1, Mark Lawrence a écrit : On 19/12/2013 08:10, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Same experience with PyQt4. Py 3.2 : PyQt4.QtCore.PYQT_VERSION_STR - 4.8.6 Py 3.3 : PyQt4.QtCore.PYQT_VERSION_STR -

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

All Java GUI frameworks I know of are ridiculous garbage. Not only that Java per se is obscenely fat (and unresponsive), but the GUI frameworks leak like bottomless barrels and the look and feel is so hideous that I would say from personal experience with numerous Java applications

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On 12/19/13 10:10 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: All Java GUI frameworks I know of are ridiculous garbage. Not only that Java per se is obscenely fat (and unresponsive), but the GUI frameworks leak like bottomless barrels and the look and feel is so hideous that I would say from personal experience

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With Windows systems, I waste something like 90% of my work time waiting for that system to stop Not Responding. And no, it's not a matter of hardware. Something is wrong then. You bet. Windows has its issues, and it does slow down over time as cruft in the system accumulates. And

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote: With Windows it *is* normal. An experienced software developer once even explained the reason to me. When a single process on Windows does I/O, then the system essentially falls back to single tasking. Or

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On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:32:37 +0100, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote: With Windows it *is* normal. An experienced software developer once even explained the reason to me. When a single process on Windows does I/O, then the system essentially falls back to single tasking. Or

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On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Dave Angel da...@davea.name wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:32:37 +0100, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote: With Windows it *is* normal. An experienced software developer once even explained the reason to me. When a single process on Windows does I/O,

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Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 20:00:14 UTC+1, wxjm...@gmail.com a écrit : Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 19:06:35 UTC+1, Michael Torrie a écrit : On 12/17/2013 08:00 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: Python is sooo slow when it waits for the human. With Windows systems, I

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On 18/12/2013 09:24, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: [once again snip all the double spaced crap from google groups] Installation of PySide 1.2.1 for Py32, Py33 - same effect. win32, shiboken, Visual Studio, Qt: ??? jmf The point of this is? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our

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From all the toolkits, wxPython is probably the most interesting. I used all versions from 2.0 (?) up to 2.8. Then it has been decided to go unicode. Let see in the wx interactive intepreter, it is only the top of the iceberg. (Py27, wxPy294) len('ሴЃ') 5 --- It has alos been decided to rework

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Am 17.12.13 06:37, schrieb Rick Johnson: On Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:01:53 AM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote: low-level language with some interface to Python. The main difference between this hypothetical Python GUI and Tcl is that Tcl is a Turing-complete interpreter which lives in it's own

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On 17/12/2013 07:58, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: From all the toolkits, wxPython is probably the most interesting. I used all versions from 2.0 (?) up to 2.8. Then it has been decided to go unicode. Let see in the wx interactive intepreter, it is only the top of the iceberg. (Py27, wxPy294)

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Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 09:33:24 UTC+1, Mark Lawrence a écrit : On 17/12/2013 07:58, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: From all the toolkits, wxPython is probably the most interesting. I used all versions from 2.0 (?) up to 2.8. Then it has been decided to go unicode. Let see in

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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 23:58:15 -0800, wxjmfauth wrote: From all the toolkits, wxPython is probably the most interesting. I used all versions from 2.0 (?) up to 2.8. Then it has been decided to go unicode. Let see in the wx interactive intepreter, it is only the top of the iceberg. (Py27,

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Am 16.12.13 23:40, schrieb Chris Angelico: On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Christian Gollwitzer aurio...@gmx.de wrote: Let the flame war begin! I'll try to avoid flamage :) :) So let's vigorously discuss about facts;) But my rule of thumb with bash scripts is: If it exceeds a page or two

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On 17/12/2013 09:29, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Even if it is true that wxPython cannot handle Unicode text, you haven't shown it here. Personally I am convinced that wxPython can't handle unicode for the simple reason that it doesn't yet support Python 3 and we all know that Python 2 and

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On 17/12/2013 09:18, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 09:33:24 UTC+1, Mark Lawrence a écrit : On 17/12/2013 07:58, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: From all the toolkits, wxPython is probably the most interesting. I used all versions from 2.0 (?) up to 2.8. Then it has

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On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:39:06 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: Personally I am convinced that wxPython can't handle unicode for the simple reason that it doesn't yet support Python 3 and we all know that Python 2 and unicode don't mix. I don't think this is right. The Unicode support in Python 2

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Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 10:29:28 UTC+1, Steven D'Aprano a écrit : On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 23:58:15 -0800, wxjmfauth wrote: From all the toolkits, wxPython is probably the most interesting. I used all versions from 2.0 (?) up to 2.8. Then it has been decided to go unicode.

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On 2013-12-17 11:13, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:39:06 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: Personally I am convinced that wxPython can't handle unicode for the simple reason that it doesn't yet support Python 3 and we all know that Python 2 and unicode don't mix. I don't think this

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On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Christian Gollwitzer aurio...@gmx.de wrote: Am 16.12.13 23:40, schrieb Chris Angelico: But my rule of thumb with bash scripts is: If it exceeds a page or two in length, it's probably time it got rewritten in an application language. When a program is the size

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On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 01:36:43AM -0800, Igor Korot wrote: Hi, guys, On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:29 AM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 23:58:15 -0800, wxjmfauth wrote: I think you are doing exactly what Steven D'Aprano said: Please compare: abc vs 'abc'

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On 17/12/2013 11:13, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:39:06 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: Personally I am convinced that wxPython can't handle unicode for the simple reason that it doesn't yet support Python 3 and we all know that Python 2 and unicode don't mix. I don't think this

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Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 14:03:03 UTC+1, Robert Kern a écrit : On 2013-12-17 11:13, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:39:06 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: Personally I am convinced that wxPython can't handle unicode for the simple reason that it doesn't yet support

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Addendum. I should say, I had also a lot of fun in writing my own styling engine. Because when one has to deal with a language, which does not recognize its own keywords... 1and 444 444 tokenize.py could have been a solution, but it's really too slow. jmf --

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On 17/12/2013 14:43, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Addendum. I should say, I had also a lot of fun in writing my own styling engine. Because when one has to deal with a language, which does not recognize its own keywords... 1and 444 444 tokenize.py could have been a solution, but it's

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Python is sooo slow when it waits for the human. With Windows systems, I waste something like 90% of my work time waiting for that system to stop Not Responding. And no, it's not a matter of hardware. Sincerely, Wolfgang -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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For example Firefox implements its entire GUI in Javascript using XML GUI definitions. Which has made Firefox essentially unusable because it will fall into koma (Not Responding) for minutes upon almost each and every mouseclick. Unfortunately I don't know any significantly better alternatives.

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The other thing, specially if you would make a customer project, I don't know how to pack the app written in python in an installer. If you want your application to be actually user-friendly, you make it available as an installer-less zip archive. It works with Python applications, no matter

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

Please check JYTHON and those ready-for-novice GUI tools in java. All Java GUI frameworks I know of are ridiculous garbage. Not only that Java per se is obscenely fat (and unresponsive), but the GUI frameworks leak like bottomless barrels and the look and feel is so hideous that I would say

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On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote: And besides, again, a commercially licensed PyQt itself isn't *that* expensive. The cost of a commercial PyQt license for a single developer is £350 (GBP). You may pay in either US Dollars, Euros or GBP. I didn't

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 12/17/2013 08:00 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: Python is sooo slow when it waits for the human. With Windows systems, I waste something like 90% of my work time waiting for that system to stop Not Responding. And no, it's not a matter of hardware. Something is wrong then. Windows has

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 12/17/2013 10:07 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: On an actual operating system, the attitude of the developers (do they actually care or just don't give a darn) is *the* critical issue for end-user productivity. If a developer makes a statement such as of just get a faster computer or just get

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 12/17/2013 08:00 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: Please check JYTHON and those ready-for-novice GUI tools in java. All Java GUI frameworks I know of are ridiculous garbage. Not only that Java per se is obscenely fat (and unresponsive), but the GUI frameworks leak like bottomless barrels and

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

On 17/12/2013 19:00, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 19:06:35 UTC+1, Michael Torrie a écrit : On 12/17/2013 08:00 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: Python is sooo slow when it waits for the human. With Windows systems, I waste something like 90% of my work time

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Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 19:06:35 UTC+1, Michael Torrie a écrit : On 12/17/2013 08:00 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: Python is sooo slow when it waits for the human. With Windows systems, I waste something like 90% of my work time waiting for that system to stop Not Responding.

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Michael Torrie wrote: I think PyQt is slowly being pushed aside in favor of PySide, which is more license-friendly for use in closed or open projects. I would recommend using PySide unless PyQt is a requirement for your project. That's not the impression I get from the PySide mailing lists.

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On 16/12/2013 05:08, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote: I think Python is a great overall application development language, especially for the GUI. First-class functions for callbacks make it very nice compared to other languages.

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On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I've done the latter, but still can't fit all the data for my 100+ screens into a one liner, help please :) With 100 screens, you should be able to use lines of text up to 8000 characters long - just make sure your

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On 16/12/2013 11:58, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I've done the latter, but still can't fit all the data for my 100+ screens into a one liner, help please :) With 100 screens, you should be able to use lines of text up to

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On 12/15/13, 5:06 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: Yeah, but there's a difference between passing your GUI incantations on to a library function (written in C but now just part of a binary library) and feeding them to a completely different language interpreter. When I write something with PyGTK, I

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On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:55 AM, Kevin Walzer k...@codebykevin.com wrote: Finally, Tcl is itself a fully-featured, general programming language that is a peer to Python both generationally and in terms of its capabilities; the main way it lags is in the size of its development community. In

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On 12/16/13, 10:20 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: Having made a tweak to gitk at one point, I have to say Tcl is definitely inferior to Python. Without starting a flame war, can you elaborate? I'm curious about your perspective. (I studied PSL--Python as a Second Language--so develop in it with

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On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Kevin Walzer k...@codebykevin.com wrote: On 12/16/13, 10:20 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: Having made a tweak to gitk at one point, I have to say Tcl is definitely inferior to Python. Without starting a flame war, can you elaborate? I'm curious about your

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On Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:12:16 PM UTC+8, Jai wrote: GUI:-want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed. There are lots of book here so I am confuse which book i should refer so that i don't waste time . please answer Please check JYTHON and those ready

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On 2013-12-16, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Kevin Walzer k...@codebykevin.com wrote: On 12/16/13, 10:20 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: Having made a tweak to gitk at one point, I have to say Tcl is definitely inferior to Python. Without starting a

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On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: * The everything is a string view of the world is severly limiting if you're not just processing strings. I wasn't sure if that was the case, from what I was seeing. Are there any aggregate types at all? ChrisA

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On 2013-12-16, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: * The everything is a string view of the world is severly limiting if you're not just processing strings. I wasn't sure if that was the case, from what I

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Let the flame war begin! Am 16.12.13 17:10, schrieb Chris Angelico: Here's the Tcl procedure that I tweaked. This is from gitk; I find the word diff not all that useful, but a character diff at times is very useful. I haven't found a way to configure the word diff regex through gitk's options,

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Am 16.12.13 18:04, schrieb Grant Edwards: On 2013-12-16, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: * The everything is a string view of the world is severly limiting if you're not just processing strings. I

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On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Christian Gollwitzer aurio...@gmx.de wrote: Let the flame war begin! I'll try to avoid flamage :) First off, gitk is a huge unstructured mess. You are not obliged to write programs like this in Tcl, at least not today. All these global statements give already

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Grant Edwards wrote: On 2013-12-16, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any aggregate types at all? There are arrays with string keys (similar to Python dictionaries). Well... sort of. They can only hold strings, not other arrays. They're not first-class entities: you can't

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On 12/16/2013 5:40 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: Nice, though Python's threading and/or multiprocessing can do 90% of what people want. Side point: What about Tk? Can you (a) run separate GUI threads for separate windows? (b) manipulate widgets created by another thread? When running tk via

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On 16/12/2013 22:06, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: Let the flame war begin! Surely proper flame wars should have inflammatory titles like this https://archive.org/details/SeanKellyRecoveryfromAddiction ? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do

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On 2013-12-16, Gregory Ewing greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: Grant Edwards wrote: On 2013-12-16, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any aggregate types at all? There are arrays with string keys (similar to Python dictionaries). Well... sort of. They can only hold

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On Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:01:53 AM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 14:53:45 +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2013-12-14, Steven D'Aprano wrote: You seem to be equating was compiled from with includes an implemenation of. Do you say that CPython ships with C? Well,

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On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Rick Johnson rantingrickjohn...@gmail.com wrote: We don't need that functionality, we ALREADY have a language... it's called Python and the syntax is MUCH better. All we want is a damn GUI. And trying to justify TCL as legit because Tcl just calls C routines

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On 17/12/2013 05:37, Rick Johnson wrote: We don't need that functionality, we ALREADY have a language... it's called Python and the syntax is MUCH better. All we want is a damn GUI. Then write it, dear Rick, dear Rick, dear Rick, then write it, dear Rick, dear Rick, write it. -- My fellow

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On 2013-12-14, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: But more seriously, 100% seriously in fact, I think that you'll find that *every* GUI framework for Python ships with an entirely different language under the hood, usually C. Name one GUI framework that ships with a

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I think PyQt is slowly being pushed aside in favor of PySide, which is more license-friendly for use in closed or open projects. I would recommend using PySide unless PyQt is a requirement for your project. Except the issue that Pyside always seems to lag a bit behind Qt releases, while PyQt

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On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 14:53:45 +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2013-12-14, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: But more seriously, 100% seriously in fact, I think that you'll find that *every* GUI framework for Python ships with an entirely different language under the

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On 12/15/2013 08:33 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: I think PyQt is slowly being pushed aside in favor of PySide, which is more license-friendly for use in closed or open projects. I would recommend using PySide unless PyQt is a requirement for your project. Except the issue that Pyside always

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On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote: And besides, again, a commercially licensed PyQt itself isn't *that* expensive. The cost of a commercial PyQt license for a single developer is £350 (GBP). You may pay in either US Dollars, Euros or GBP. (£420 incl. VAT

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On 15/12/2013 17:52, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote: On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote: And besides, again, a commercially licensed PyQt itself isn't *that* expensive. The cost of a commercial PyQt license for a single developer is £350 (GBP). You may

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On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:01 AM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: As I stated earlier, this is just the Interpreter design pattern, with the minor complication that the domain specific language happens to be an existing language, Tcl, with an interpreter that usually

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On 16/12/2013 00:34, Tamer Higazi wrote: But to be honest, I don't believe that Python is the best choice for GUI development, but it's only an opinion. Otherwise I would advise you going into C++ and code with wxWidgets. Tamer Can you state why you prefer C++ and wxWidgets over Python and

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Hi Mark! It is an advise, in which language somebody wants to code is of course everybodys free choice. However, I believe according wxWidgets it would be better coding in the native language the system had been developed. The other thing, specially if you would make a customer project, I

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On 12/15/2013 05:34 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: For wxPython there is a good book. You will feel convinient. But to be honest, I don't believe that Python is the best choice for GUI development, but it's only an opinion. Otherwise I would advise you going into C++ and code with wxWidgets.

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On 12/15/2013 09:09 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: However, I believe according wxWidgets it would be better coding in the native language the system had been developed. The other thing, specially if you would make a customer project, I don't know how to pack the app written in python in an

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On 12/15/2013 09:51 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: And all modern web apps are a combination of many languages and domains, most of which are compiled in the traditional sense. Meant to say, *not* compiled. --

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On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Tamer Higazi tamerito...@arcor.de wrote: I also believe in performance. An application written in C++, can be compiled easily on the target platform (like on windows systems) with it's native compiler. How would it be with wxPython ?! It's going to spend more

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On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote: I think Python is a great overall application development language, especially for the GUI. First-class functions for callbacks make it very nice compared to other languages. Python is fast enough for full-blown apps

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On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Jai jaiprakashsingh...@gmail.com wrote: GUI:-want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed. There are lots of book here so I am confuse which book i should refer so that i don't waste time . please answer There are many ways to build

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GUI:-want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed. There are lots of book here so I am confuse which book i should refer so that i don't waste time . It depends on what you want to do with the GUI, since there are many different GUI frameworks for Python. E.g. If you

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