On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Steven D'Aprano
st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:29:12 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
In my question, module A and B exist just for the sake of
implementation. Even if I have module A and B, I don't want the user
feel the existence of
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano
st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:54:47 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
So python would not be able to accommodate my preference one
class/function per file?
Of course it does! You can do that RIGHT NOW -- just put one
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano
st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:48:10 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
Variables in a function are already private. How can the names in one
function be affected by other functions in the same module?
You
Peng Yu wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano
st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au wrote:
Oh wait, I get it... you want to do a global search-and-replace over the
entire file. *face-palm*
Yes. You get it.
In any capable programmer's editor, it should not be hard to do a
Peng Yu wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano
st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:54:47 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
So python would not be able to accommodate my preference one
class/function per file?
Of course it does! You can do that RIGHT NOW
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:46:42 -0600, Robert Kern wrote:
Peng Yu wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano
st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au wrote:
Oh wait, I get it... you want to do a global search-and-replace over
the entire file. *face-palm*
Yes. You get it.
In
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:07:37 -0600, Peng Yu wrote:
It is
reasonable to assume the log of the number of states of a function or a
class is proportional to it length. Hence, when a function or a
class is long, you will never be able to test all its states.
def f(n):
return n + 5
def
I have the following files, which are in the directory 'test'. The
parent directory of 'test' is in $PYTHONPATH. I have 'from A import A'
and 'from B import B' in '__init__.py', because I want to use 'test.A'
and 'test.B' to refer to classes A and B rather than 'test.A.A' and
'test.B.B'.
$ll -g
Peng Yu pengyu...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm wondering if there is a way to make the following two things hold.
Thank you1
1. When I 'import test', I can refer to class A as 'test.A'.
2. When I 'import test.A', I can refer to class A as 'test.A.A' and
class B shall not be imported.
No. Either
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Duncan Booth
duncan.bo...@invalid.invalid wrote:
Peng Yu pengyu...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm wondering if there is a way to make the following two things hold.
Thank you1
1. When I 'import test', I can refer to class A as 'test.A'.
2. When I 'import test.A', I
On 2009-10-31 15:31 PM, Peng Yu wrote:
The original problem comes from the maintenance of the package. When A
and B are large classes, it is better to put them in separate files
under the directory 'test' than put them in the file 'test.py'. The
interface 'test.A' is used by end users. However,
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2009-10-31 15:31 PM, Peng Yu wrote:
The original problem comes from the maintenance of the package. When A
and B are large classes, it is better to put them in separate files
under the directory 'test' than put them
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 16:53 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com wrote:
[ snip ]
I know that multiple classes or functions are typically defined in one
file (i.e. module in python). However, I feel this make the code not
easy to read.
On 2009-10-31 16:53 PM, Peng Yu wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Robert Kernrobert.k...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2009-10-31 15:31 PM, Peng Yu wrote:
The original problem comes from the maintenance of the package. When A
and B are large classes, it is better to put them in separate files
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Wolodja Wentland
wentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 16:53 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com wrote:
[ snip ]
I know that multiple classes or functions are typically defined in one
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 18:29 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Wolodja Wentland
wentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 16:53 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
Are you serious? Do you *really* put each function in its own file? How
exactly does this enhance
On 2009-10-31 19:21 PM, Wolodja Wentland wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 18:29 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
And I always put a single class in a file.
Why? What do you gain by that?
While it's never a good idea to follow the rule slavishly, it's often a good
idea. Many classes are themselves a
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Wolodja Wentland
wentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 18:29 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Wolodja Wentland
wentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 16:53 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
Are you
Peng Yu wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Wolodja Wentland
wentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 16:53 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com wrote:
[ snip ]
I know that multiple classes or
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:29:35 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
If two functions are too long to put in file, I generally put them in
two different files.
If two functions are too long for a single file, the functions are too
big and need to be broken up into ten or thirty sub-functions each!
Ideally, no
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:03:29 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
If it should ever happen that two functions are too long to put in a
single file you should refactor your code. It is usually a good idea of
breaking problems down into single steps (ie functions) so you never
end up with a 5000 SLOC
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:53:50 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
I know that multiple classes or functions are typically defined in one
file (i.e. module in python). However, I feel this make the code not
easy to read. Therefore, I insist on one class or function per file (i.e
module in python).
When
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Steven D'Aprano
st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:53:50 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
I know that multiple classes or functions are typically defined in one
file (i.e. module in python). However, I feel this make the code not
easy to
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Steven D'Aprano
st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:03:29 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
If it should ever happen that two functions are too long to put in a
single file you should refactor your code. It is usually a good idea of
breaking
Peng Yu wrote:
I have defined 'long' in one of my previous message. I consider a file
long, when it does not fit in one or two screen. Basically, I want to
get a whole picture of the file after glancing of the file.
I think you are going to have to get used to the fact that you have very
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Steven D'Aprano
st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:29:35 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
If two functions are too long to put in file, I generally put them in
two different files.
If two functions are too long for a single file, the
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Dave Angel da...@ieee.org wrote:
Peng Yu wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Wolodja Wentland
wentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 16:53 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com wrote:
Peng Yu wrote:
I have defined 'long' in one of my previous message. I consider a file
long, when it does not fit in one or two screen. Basically, I want to
get a whole picture of the file after glancing of the file.
Peng Yu wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com wrote:
Peng Yu wrote:
I have defined 'long' in one of my previous message. I consider a file
long, when it does not fit in one or two screen. Basically, I want to
get a whole picture of the file after glancing
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:29:12 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
In my question, module A and B exist just for the sake of
implementation. Even if I have module A and B, I don't want the user
feel the existence of module A and B. I want them feel exact like
class A and B are defined in module 'test'
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:48:10 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
Variables in a function are already private. How can the names in one
function be affected by other functions in the same module?
You misunderstood me.
If there are multiple functions or classes in a file, when I change
variables in a
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:54:47 -0500, Peng Yu wrote:
So python would not be able to accommodate my preference one
class/function per file?
Of course it does! You can do that RIGHT NOW -- just put one class per
file.
I.e., I have to use something like 'from spam
import spam' or
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