Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-03-07 Thread alex23
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > The question that needs to be asked is not "Is Python 3 fast?", but > instead "Is Python 3 fast enough?". I'm certainly not going to argue against that, I just don't find the coding contortions used on sites like spoj.pl for performance gains to be anything approximating

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-03-07 Thread Brian
While some may see this thread as troll candy, others may not. We want cake. And we need to eat it. Doing a lot of instrument control and data acquisition stuff. And a short dev period has same importance as short run time. As for the safety of those that dwell under and walk over bridges, y

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-03-06 Thread n00m
http://www.spoj.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8264 That's all what I meant to say in here. User numerix (German?) knows ropes of Python miles far better than e.g. me. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-03-06 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 20:28:19 -0800, alex23 wrote: > On Feb 27, 11:57 pm, n00m wrote: >> http://www.spoj.pl/ > > There's your problem. I'd say most Python 3.x adopters are using it for > something other than working out whose performance dick is the longest. In fairness, the Python Dev team is v

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-03-06 Thread alex23
On Feb 27, 11:57 pm, n00m wrote: > http://www.spoj.pl/ There's your problem. I'd say most Python 3.x adopters are using it for something other than working out whose performance dick is the longest. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-03-06 Thread n00m
PS The winner (just a schoolboy) of IOI 2009 lives in my town, not very far from my house. I'm proud to have such a neibour. His account on spoj: http://www.spoj.pl/users/tourist/ Of course he's also registered on many other online judge systems, incl. www.topcoder.com -- http://mail.python.org/ma

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-03-06 Thread n00m
On Mar 6, 7:25 pm, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 02/27/2011 06:57 AM, n00m wrote: > > > Steve, see a list of accepted langs there, in bottom dropdown: > >http://www.spoj.pl/submit/There *was* Python 2.6. > > Then admins shifted back to 2.5. People vote by their legs. > > rr, is that you? Are you ask

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-03-06 Thread geremy condra
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Tom Zych wrote: > n00m wrote: >> Am I turmoiling your wishful thinking? >> You may nourish it till the end of time. > > Let us cease to nourish those fabled ones who dwell under bridges. +1 QOTW. Geremy Condra -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-li

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-03-06 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 7:15 AM, n00m wrote: > > http://www.spoj.pl/problems/TMUL/ > > > > Python's "print a * b" gets Time Limit Exceeded. > > If speed is the only thing you care about, then you can forget about > fretting over whether 2.5 or

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-03-06 Thread Michael Torrie
On 02/27/2011 06:57 AM, n00m wrote: > Steve, see a list of accepted langs there, in bottom dropdown: > http://www.spoj.pl/submit/ There *was* Python 2.6. > Then admins shifted back to 2.5. People vote by their legs. rr, is that you? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-03-06 Thread Tom Zych
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 11:43:12 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: >> If speed is the only thing you care about, then you can forget about >> fretting over whether 2.5 or 3.1 is faster. You're using the wrong >> language to begin with. > Surely that depends on whether you care about ex

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-03-06 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 11:43:12 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 7:15 AM, n00m wrote: >> http://www.spoj.pl/problems/TMUL/ >> >> Python's "print a * b" gets Time Limit Exceeded. > > If speed is the only thing you care about, then you can forget about > fretting over whether 2.5 or

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-03-03 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 7:15 AM, n00m wrote: > http://www.spoj.pl/problems/TMUL/ > > Python's "print a * b" gets Time Limit Exceeded. If speed is the only thing you care about, then you can forget about fretting over whether 2.5 or 3.1 is faster. You're using the wrong language to begin with. --

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-03-03 Thread Peter Parker
On 02/27/2011 09:27 AM, Tom Zych wrote: n00m wrote: Am I turmoiling your wishful thinking? You may nourish it till the end of time. Let us cease to nourish those fabled ones who dwell under bridges. LOL ! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-02-27 Thread Bill Allen
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 07:34, n00m wrote: > Python 2.5 (r25:51908, Sep 19 2006, 09:52:17) [MSC v.1310 32 bit > (Intel)] on win32 > > and Idon't move neither up nor down from it (the best & the fastest > version) > -- Trolls should also be h

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-02-27 Thread Tom Zych
n00m wrote: > Am I turmoiling your wishful thinking? > You may nourish it till the end of time. Let us cease to nourish those fabled ones who dwell under bridges. -- Tom Zych / freethin...@pobox.com Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-lis

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-02-27 Thread n00m
http://www.spoj.pl/problems/TMUL/ Python's "print a * b" gets Time Limit Exceeded. = PHP's code = fscanf(STDIN, "%d\n", &$tcs); while ($tcs--) { fscanf(STDIN, "%s %s\n", &$n, &$m); echo bcmul($

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-02-27 Thread n00m
On Feb 27, 3:58 pm, Grigory Javadyan wrote: > what the hell does that have to do with anything > > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 5:34 PM, n00m wrote: > > Python 2.5 (r25:51908, Sep 19 2006, 09:52:17) [MSC v.1310 32 bit > > (Intel)] on win32 > > > and Idon't move neither up nor down from it (the best &

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-02-27 Thread n00m
Steve, see a list of accepted langs there, in bottom dropdown: http://www.spoj.pl/submit/ There *was* Python 2.6. Then admins shifted back to 2.5. People vote by their legs. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-02-27 Thread Grigory Javadyan
what the hell does that have to do with anything On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 5:34 PM, n00m wrote: > Python 2.5 (r25:51908, Sep 19 2006, 09:52:17) [MSC v.1310 32 bit > (Intel)] on win32 > > and Idon't move neither up nor down from it (the best & the fastest > version) > -- > http://mail.python.org/mai

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-02-27 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 05:34:44 -0800, n00m wrote: > Python 2.5 (r25:51908, Sep 19 2006, 09:52:17) [MSC v.1310 32 bit > (Intel)] on win32 > > and Idon't move neither up nor down from it (the best & the fastest > version) Congratulations. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyth

Re: I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-02-27 Thread n00m
Python 3 is a tempor. lapse of reason. Just my an intuitive sensation, nothing objective in it. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

I'm happy with Python 2.5

2011-02-27 Thread n00m
Python 2.5 (r25:51908, Sep 19 2006, 09:52:17) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on win32 and Idon't move neither up nor down from it (the best & the fastest version) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list