Re: Let's talk about debuggers!

2017-11-01 Thread dieter
Thomas Jollans writes: > I just wanted to know what tools everyone used for debugging Python > applications - scripts / backend / desktop apps / notebooks / whatever. > Apart from the usual dance with log files and strategically inserted > print() calls, that is. > > Of course we

Re: Let's talk about debuggers!

2017-10-27 Thread Robin Becker
On 25/10/2017 15:08, Michele Simionato wrote: pdb plus plus: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pdbpp I like the idea, but in putty at least changing the terminal size causes pdb++ to detach immediately from the process and mess up the screen. I think this is caused by (5, 'Input/output error')

Re: Let's talk about debuggers!

2017-10-26 Thread Paul Rubin
Terry Reedy writes: > On Windows, [IDLE] uses native widgets when possible... > In summary, I think debugger should rate at least 'good' rather than > fail' when it comes to showing you the next line. I actually like how the Tk widgets look. I've done some semi-industrial

Re: Let's talk about debuggers!

2017-10-25 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 25/10/17 22:18, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 10/25/2017 12:12 PM, Thomas Jollans wrote: >> On 2017-10-25 15:57, Rustom Mody wrote: >>> >>> pdb inside emacs works (to a fashion) >>> And it shows the arrow for current line so its at least quasi-gui >>> >>> I believe idle too is much more usable than a

Re: Let's talk about debuggers!

2017-10-25 Thread m
W dniu 25.10.2017 o 15:53, Ned Batchelder pisze: > On 10/25/17 9:07 AM, Thomas Jollans wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I just wanted to know what tools everyone used for debugging Python >> applications - scripts / backend / desktop apps / notebooks / whatever. >> Apart from the usual dance with log files and

Re: Let's talk about debuggers!

2017-10-25 Thread Terry Reedy
On 10/25/2017 12:12 PM, Thomas Jollans wrote: On 2017-10-25 15:57, Rustom Mody wrote: pdb inside emacs works (to a fashion) And it shows the arrow for current line so its at least quasi-gui I believe idle too is much more usable than a few years earlier I haven't used IDLE in years (if

Re: Let's talk about debuggers!

2017-10-25 Thread Daniele Forghieri
Il 25/10/2017 15:07, Thomas Jollans ha scritto: Hi, I just wanted to know what tools everyone used for debugging Python applications - scripts / backend / desktop apps / notebooks / whatever. Apart from the usual dance with log files and strategically inserted print() calls, that is. Of course

Re: Let's talk about debuggers!

2017-10-25 Thread Tim
On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 9:07:47 AM UTC-4, Thomas Jollans wrote: > Hi, > > I just wanted to know what tools everyone used for debugging Python > applications - scripts / backend / desktop apps / notebooks / whatever. > Apart from the usual dance with log files and strategically inserted

Re: Let's talk about debuggers!

2017-10-25 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 2017-10-25 15:57, Rustom Mody wrote: > > pdb inside emacs works (to a fashion) > And it shows the arrow for current line so its at least quasi-gui > > I believe idle too is much more usable than a few years earlier I haven't used IDLE in years (if ever), partly because Tkinter is so

Re: Let's talk about debuggers!

2017-10-25 Thread William Ray Wing
> On Oct 25, 2017, at 9:07 AM, Thomas Jollans wrote: > > [byte] > What options are there for Python (that work)? What text editors (and > IDEs) have a decent integrated debugger or debugging plugin? I rather like WingIDE (the name is a coincidence). It allows

Re: Let's talk about debuggers!

2017-10-25 Thread Bill
Fabien wrote: On 10/25/2017 03:07 PM, Thomas Jollans wrote: What options are there for Python (that work)? PyCharm's debugger is fine (also available in the community edition) +1 Cheers, Fabien -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Let's talk about debuggers!

2017-10-25 Thread Michele Simionato
pdb plus plus: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pdbpp -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Let's talk about debuggers!

2017-10-25 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 10/25/17 9:07 AM, Thomas Jollans wrote: Hi, I just wanted to know what tools everyone used for debugging Python applications - scripts / backend / desktop apps / notebooks / whatever. Apart from the usual dance with log files and strategically inserted print() calls, that is. Of course we

Re: Let's talk about debuggers!

2017-10-25 Thread Rustom Mody
On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 6:37:47 PM UTC+5:30, Thomas Jollans wrote: > Hi, > > I just wanted to know what tools everyone used for debugging Python > applications - scripts / backend / desktop apps / notebooks / whatever. > Apart from the usual dance with log files and strategically

Re: Let's talk about debuggers!

2017-10-25 Thread Fabien
On 10/25/2017 03:07 PM, Thomas Jollans wrote: What options are there for Python (that work)? PyCharm's debugger is fine (also available in the community edition) Cheers, Fabien -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Let's talk about debuggers!

2017-10-25 Thread Thomas Jollans
Hi, I just wanted to know what tools everyone used for debugging Python applications - scripts / backend / desktop apps / notebooks / whatever. Apart from the usual dance with log files and strategically inserted print() calls, that is. Of course we all know and mildly dislike pdb. Personally,