On Aug 26, 11:12 am, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article
> <2309ec4b-e9a3-4330-9983-1c621ac16...@ea4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
> Travis Parks wrote:
>
> > I know the Python syntax pretty well. I know a lot of the libraries
> > and tools. When I see professional Python programmer's code, I am
> > ofte
In article
<2309ec4b-e9a3-4330-9983-1c621ac16...@ea4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
Travis Parks wrote:
> I know the Python syntax pretty well. I know a lot of the libraries
> and tools. When I see professional Python programmer's code, I am
> often blown away with the code. I realized that even th
On Aug 26, 9:28 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Travis Parks wrote:
> > I haven't gotten to the point where I can truly use the language
> > features to my full advantage. I haven't seen enough "tricks" to be
> > effective. I feel like there is so much of the languag
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Travis Parks
> wrote:
> > I haven't gotten to the point where I can truly use the language
> > features to my full advantage. I haven't seen enough "tricks" to be
> > effective. I feel like there is so muc
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Travis Parks wrote:
> I haven't gotten to the point where I can truly use the language
> features to my full advantage. I haven't seen enough "tricks" to be
> effective. I feel like there is so much of the language I am not
> utilizing because I'm still thinking i
On Aug 26, 8:44 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Travis Parks wrote:
> > I know the Python syntax pretty well. I know a lot of the libraries
> > and tools. When I see professional Python programmer's code, I am
> > often blown away with the code. I realized that even
Chris Angelico wrote:
[ ... ]
> You can get books on algorithms from all sorts of places, and with a
> very few exceptions, everything you learn with apply to Python and
> also to every other language you use.
I liked _Programming Pearls_ by Jon Bentley. No reference to Python -- that
would be t
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Travis Parks wrote:
> I know the Python syntax pretty well. I know a lot of the libraries
> and tools. When I see professional Python programmer's code, I am
> often blown away with the code. I realized that even though I know the
> language, I know nothing about
I know the Python syntax pretty well. I know a lot of the libraries
and tools. When I see professional Python programmer's code, I am
often blown away with the code. I realized that even though I know the
language, I know nothing about using it effectively.
I would like to start using Python more
Chris Colbert wrote:
> oops :)
>
Yes, but only a little oops. I think it's probably fairly well-known
that David Beazley and I both supply training, and you'd hardly expect
profit to be off the list of objectives for US trainers. But my failure
to hit "reply to sender only" certainly did show that
>
> David Beazley wrote:
> > Mastering Python 3 I/O
> >** PyCON'2010 Tutorial Preview in Chicago **
> >
> > with David Beazley
> > February 5, 2010, 12pm - 5pm
> > http://www.dabeaz.com/
Dave:
New York classes went well this week, and there appears to be some
demand for Chicago training. How can we satisfy this demand to our
common profit?
regards
Steve
David Beazley wrote:
> Mastering Python 3 I/O
>** PyCON'2010 Tutorial Preview
"Steve Holden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Speaking of which, here's a limerick To read it you need to know not
> only that Hampshire is colloquially know as Hants, but also that
> Salisbury's ancient Roman name is Sarum.
>
> There once was a young man of Salisbury
> Whose manners were most
Steve Holden wrote:
> Speaking of which, here's a limerick To read it you need to know not
> only that Hampshire is colloquially know as Hants, but also that
> Salisbury's ancient Roman name is Sarum.
>
> There once was a young man of Salisbury
> Whose manners were most halisbury-scalisbury
> H
Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
> "Steve Holden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
>
>>> It comes out something like "Chum-lee", with the ch like chicken...
>>>
>>> (that's what I have heard - but who knows - It may have been
>>> a regional dialect, a case of the blind lea
"Steve Holden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
> > It comes out something like "Chum-lee", with the ch like chicken...
> >
> > (that's what I have heard - but who knows - It may have been
> > a regional dialect, a case of the blind leading the blind, or
> > someone pu
Before we get to far away from the original question...
as you have may have noticed you reached one of the best user
groups on the net , where help from the top gurus and best minds in
the python universe is only a question away.
Go for it, you are in good hands.
Db
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Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
> "Dennis Lee Bieber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:55:20 +0200, "Hendrik van Rooyen"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
>
>>> Pretty obvious of course, as is the pronounciation of the
>>> name: "Cholmondely"
"Dennis Lee Bieber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:55:20 +0200, "Hendrik van Rooyen"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
> > Pretty obvious of course, as is the pronounciation of the
> > name: "Cholmondely"
> >
> Is that a scottish "Ch" (as i
"Bruno Desthuilliers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Dennis Lee Bieber a écrit :
>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:40:51 +0100, Bruno Desthuilliers
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed the following in
>> comp.lang.python:
>>>
>> For future reference, and I hope you don't mind the lesson,
>I don't.
>> the pa
Dennis Lee Bieber a écrit :
> On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:40:51 +0100, Bruno Desthuilliers
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed the following in
> comp.lang.python:
>
>> It will actually do something: rebind name 'a' to the method lower() of
>> the string previously binded to 'a'
>>
> For future refe
On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 09:38:52PM EST, Paul McGuire wrote:
> On Mar 16, 9:27 am, "BartlebyScrivener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mar 16, 8:39 am, "Paul McGuire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Wow, are you still reading? Quit wasting time and go download a
> > > Python dist and
>>
> For future reference, and I hope you don't mind the lesson, the past
> tense of "bind" is "bound" (I can't state it as a firm rule, but many
> *ind words seem to go *ound: bind, find, wind [as in wrap, not blowing
> in the...], grind -> bound, found, wound [not to confuse with an
> injur
Paul McGuire a écrit :
(snip)
> - Don't forget the ()'s. To invoke a method on an object, you must
> include the parens. This wont do anything:
> a = "some string"
> a = a.lower
It will actually do something: rebind name 'a' to the method lower() of
the string previously binded to 'a'
(sni
"Paul McGuire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mar 16, 9:27 am, "BartlebyScrivener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think you should extract that and spend twenty minutes tidying
> > it up and then publish it to the Python for Programmers page or
> > make it a downloadable .pdf.
> >
> > http://w
On Mar 16, 9:27 am, "BartlebyScrivener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mar 16, 8:39 am, "Paul McGuire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Wow, are you still reading? Quit wasting time and go download a
> > Python dist and get started already!
>
> I think you should extract that and spend twenty
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Alex Martelli wrote:
>> Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>Mastery and quickly are opposing terms Took me 15 years on a job
>>>using FORTRAN 77 and I still wouldn't have called myself a master. (I'm
>>>more of
John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> >>Mastery and quickly are opposing terms Took me 15 years on a job
> >>using FORTRAN 77 and I still wouldn't have called myself a master. (I'm
...
> Python just isn't that complicated. The syntax is straightforward,
Neither is/was Fortran 77,
John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Execution model: dynamic stack-type interpreter.
Erm, the iterator protocol makes the above a little more complicated.
> Biggest headache is finding out what doesn't work in the libraries.
Good observation.
--
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Alex Martelli wrote:
> Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>>need to catch up quickly and master Python programming.How do you
>>
>>Mastery and quickly are opposing terms Took me 15 years on a job
>>using FORTRAN 77 and I still wouldn't have called myself a master. (I'm
>>more of a
Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > need to catch up quickly and master Python programming.How do you
>
> Mastery and quickly are opposing terms Took me 15 years on a job
> using FORTRAN 77 and I still wouldn't have called myself a master. (I'm
> more of a JoAT)
My favorite "Stars!
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:27:21AM EST, BartlebyScrivener wrote:
> On Mar 16, 8:39 am, "Paul McGuire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Wow, are you still reading? Quit wasting time and go download a
> > Python dist and get started already!
> >
>
> I think you should extract that and spend twent
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On 16 Mar 2007 04:41:38 -0700, "Gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed
> the following in comp.lang.python:
>
>> Hi ,Im a BSc4 Maths/Computer Science student.Unfortunately my
>> curriculum did not include Python programming yet I see many vacancies
>> for Python develope
Gerald wrote:
> Hi ,Im a BSc4 Maths/Computer Science student.Unfortunately my
> curriculum did not include Python programming yet I see many vacancies
> for Python developers.I studied programming Pascal,C++ and Delphi.So I
> need to catch up quickly and master Python programming.How do you
> sugge
Paul McGuire schrieb:
> What does Python have that C++ doesn't?
> - The biggie: dynamic typing (sometimes called "duck typing").
> Dynamic typing is a huge simplifier for development:
> . no variable declarations
> . no method type signatures
> . no interface definitions needed
> . no templ
On Mar 16, 8:39 am, "Paul McGuire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Wow, are you still reading? Quit wasting time and go download a
> Python dist and get started already!
>
I think you should extract that and spend twenty minutes tidying it up
and then publish it to the Python for Programmers page
On Mar 16, 8:39 am, "Paul McGuire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> Stop thinking about *how* to start and *just start*. Python is pretty
Indeed. Of all the fortune cookies I've eaten over the years, I've
saved (and taped to my monitor) only one fortune. It reads:
Begin...the rest is easy.
On Mar 16, 6:41 am, "Gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi ,Im a BSc4 Maths/Computer Science student.Unfortunately my
> curriculum did not include Python programming yet I see many vacancies
> for Python developers.I studied programming Pascal,C++ and Delphi.So I
> need to catch up quickly and ma
On Mar 16, 6:41 am, "Gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi ,Im a BSc4 Maths/Computer Science student.Unfortunately my
> curriculum did not include Python programming yet I see many vacancies
> for Python developers.I studied programming Pascal,C++ and Delphi.So I
> need to catch up quickly and ma
Gerald a écrit :
> Hi ,Im a BSc4 Maths/Computer Science student.Unfortunately my
> curriculum did not include Python programming yet I see many vacancies
> for Python developers.I studied programming Pascal,C++ and Delphi.So I
> need to catch up quickly and master Python programming.How do you
> su
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gerald wrote:
> Can you recommend websites that feature a gentle introduction to Python?
If you already know programming in general, `Dive Into Python`_ might be a
good starting point. And of course the tutorial in the Python
documentation.
_Dive Into Python: http://www.
Hi ,Im a BSc4 Maths/Computer Science student.Unfortunately my
curriculum did not include Python programming yet I see many vacancies
for Python developers.I studied programming Pascal,C++ and Delphi.So I
need to catch up quickly and master Python programming.How do you
suggest that I achieve this g
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