Re: Microsoft GUIs

2011-07-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Andrew Berg wrote: >> Let Microsoft play with, and sell, pretty GUIs and pretty apps. > I completely disagree. MS sucks at making GUIs. > I never said they were good at making GUIs. I said they were good at selling GUIs. Dan is right about the ugliness of the Wind

Re: Microsoft GUIs

2011-07-05 Thread Andrew Berg
On 2011.07.06 12:03 AM, Dan Stromberg wrote: > I disagree. The stuff endusers tend to use is polished to some > extent, but the backend is verging on hideous. If a developer > complains about the ugly internal structure "yeah, but you say that > just because you're a computer person / geek." Admi

Re: Microsoft GUIs (was: The end to all language wars and the great unity API to come!) (OT)

2011-07-05 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Andrew Berg wrote: > On 2011.07.05 09:31 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > > I've said for a while that Microsoft could do far worse than to turn > > Windows into a GUI that sits on top of a Unix-derived kernel. They > > won't do it, though, because it would be tantamount

Re: Microsoft GUIs

2011-07-05 Thread Andrew Berg
On 2011.07.05 11:25 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > Suppose I gave you a computer that had GNOME ported to Windows, and > used the purplish palette that Ubuntu 10.10 uses, and had a Windows > port of bash as its most convenient terminal. Members of this list > will doubtless have no problem duck-typing

Re: Microsoft GUIs (was: The end to all language wars and the great unity API to come!) (OT)

2011-07-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Andrew Berg wrote: > On 2011.07.05 09:31 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> I've said for a while that Microsoft could do far worse than to turn >> Windows into a GUI that sits on top of a Unix-derived kernel. They >> won't do it, though, because it would be tantamount to

Microsoft GUIs (was: The end to all language wars and the great unity API to come!) (OT)

2011-07-05 Thread Andrew Berg
On 2011.07.05 09:31 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > I've said for a while that Microsoft could do far worse than to turn > Windows into a GUI that sits on top of a Unix-derived kernel. They > won't do it, though, because it would be tantamount to admitting both > that Unix is superior to Windows, AND t