On 2006-10-11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2006-10-11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >> Like Alanis Morisette said about the song "Isn't it Ironic":
>> >> What's ironic about the song is that it doesn't actually
>> >> contain any
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2006-10-11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> Like Alanis Morisette said about the song "Isn't it Ironic":
> >> What's ironic about the song is that it doesn't actually
> >> contain any irony.
> >
> > Any? Don't people plan June weddings thinking the wea
On 2006-10-11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Like Alanis Morisette said about the song "Isn't it Ironic":
>> What's ironic about the song is that it doesn't actually
>> contain any irony.
>
> Any? Don't people plan June weddings thinking the weather
> will be nice? And isn't one
On 2006-10-11, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Sarcasm is a form of irony. Irony is when what is meant is
>> different from the obvious literal meaning of the statement.
>
> Irony need not have anything to do with the meaning and intent of the
Brian van den Broek wrote:
...
> A quick check with the on-line text of the second edition of the
> Oxford English Dictionary (sadly, a link only available by
> subscription) gives as the first meaning:
If we're going to start using dictionary definitions, then I claim that
the following joke is
On 10/11/06, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Theerasak Photha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > I hate June. June sucks. Blindly following some Roman custom relating
> > to Juno (the real reason why people have June weddings)
>
> Well, our traditions and ceremonies in the anti-podes (than
On 10/11/06, bryan rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I believe they are reputed to have a sense of humor.
Some of jokes I have heard on BBC World Service bordered on the
unprofessional. :)
After the big tsunami, one of the announcers mentioned that "we've
been getting a *flood* of e-mail" on
"Theerasak Photha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I hate June. June sucks. Blindly following some Roman custom relating
> to Juno (the real reason why people have June weddings)
Well, our traditions and ceremonies in the anti-podes (thanks SteveH)
are very Euro-centric; but we still have our weddi
I believe they are reputed to have a sense of humor.
Cheers,
Bryan Rasmussen
On 10/11/06, Hendrik van Rooyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Steve Holden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 8<
> > ... It's well-known among Brits that A
On 10 Oct 2006 22:34:39 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Like Alanis Morisette said about the song "Isn't it Ironic":
> > What's ironic about the song is that it doesn't actually
> > contain any irony.
>
> Any? Don't people plan June weddings thinking the weather
> will be n
"Steve Holden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
8<
> ... It's well-known among Brits that Americans don't
> understand irony. They can be pretty oblique when it come to sarcasms
> too, for that matter.
*ducks to avoid the nuclear fal
On 10/11/06, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [...]
> > Any? Don't people plan June weddings thinking the weather
> > will be nice? And isn't one of the defintions of irony when
> > things turn out the opposite of what you expect?
> >
> But rain at a June wedding
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
> Any? Don't people plan June weddings thinking the weather
> will be nice? And isn't one of the defintions of irony when
> things turn out the opposite of what you expect?
>
But rain at a June wedding isn't truly ironic since it isn't the result
of the planners' ac
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2006-10-10, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> probably point out that I am writing from Denmark and was thinking
> >> specifically of a situation where a dane told me they were being
> >> 'ironic' (when what they meant, obviously, was that they were being
> >
Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sarcasm is a form of irony. Irony is when what is meant is
> different from the obvious literal meaning of the statement.
Irony need not have anything to do with the meaning and intent of the
speaker. Indeed, irony can occur when there is no communicat
On 10/11/06, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Like Alanis Morisette said about the song "Isn't it Ironic":
> What's ironic about the song is that it doesn't actually
> contain any irony.
OH!! IT'S TEH 'META-IRONY'!! ZOMG!!!
-- Theerasak
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On 2006-10-10, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> probably point out that I am writing from Denmark and was thinking
>> specifically of a situation where a dane told me they were being
>> 'ironic' (when what they meant, obviously, was that they were being
>> ironical), when I asked what th
On 10/10/06, Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Let me tell you: There are times when I'm really glad that as a German, I'm
> not supposed to possess any sense of humour at all.
hehe. That's so not true.
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Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Let me tell you: There are times when I'm really glad that as a
> German, I'm not supposed to possess any sense of humour at all.
+1 QOTW
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bryan rasmussen said unto the world upon 10/10/06 08:25 AM:
> As was noted in my original statement the weak form of irony such as
> understood by Danes and I suppose by Americans as well, since that is
> what Steve was originally complaining about, is descended from the
> concept of Dramatic Ir
Steve Holden wrote:
>> is that 'in America' meant to be an addendum to what I said, as in
>> this is the situation in America and not elsewhere? If so I should
>> probably point out that I am writing from Denmark and was thinking
>> specifically of a situation where a dane told me they were be
> bryan rasmussen skrev:
>
> > Well irony originally started out as a very specific concept of the
> > Ancient Greek drama, this is what we nowadays refer to as Dramatic
> > Irony but it is the original irony. Irony then became a literary
> > concept for plot elements similar to Dramatic irony in b
bryan rasmussen skrev:
> Well irony originally started out as a very specific concept of the
> Ancient Greek drama, this is what we nowadays refer to as Dramatic
> Irony but it is the original irony. Irony then became a literary
> concept for plot elements similar to Dramatic irony in books, or a
On 10/10/06, Max M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> bryan rasmussen skrev:
> > On 10/10/06, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> ... in America. It's well-known among Brits that Americans don't
> >> understand irony. They can be pretty oblique when it come to sarcasms
> >> too, for that matte
bryan rasmussen skrev:
> On 10/10/06, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> ... in America. It's well-known among Brits that Americans don't
>> understand irony. They can be pretty oblique when it come to sarcasms
>> too, for that matter.
>
> is that 'in America' meant to be an addendum
bryan rasmussen wrote:
> On 10/10/06, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>bryan rasmussen wrote:
>>
>>E. g. [in Java there is] no operator overloading, but "+"
>>concatenation of strings. What if you'd like to implement your own
>>string-derived class? Ah, never mind. Operator
On 10/10/06, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> bryan rasmussen wrote:
> E. g. [in Java there is] no operator overloading, but "+"
> concatenation of strings. What if you'd like to implement your own
> string-derived class? Ah, never mind. Operator overloading is
> bad(tm) ;)
On 10/10/06, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ... in America. It's well-known among Brits that Americans don't
> understand irony. They can be pretty oblique when it come to sarcasms
> too, for that matter.
Ford Prefect: "What?"
-- Theerasak
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bryan rasmussen wrote:
E. g. [in Java there is] no operator overloading, but "+"
concatenation of strings. What if you'd like to implement your own
string-derived class? Ah, never mind. Operator overloading is
bad(tm) ;) <= Irony, definitely
>>>
>>>Definitely? That one strikes me mo
> >
> > > E. g. [in Java there is] no operator overloading, but "+"
> > > concatenation of strings. What if you'd like to implement your own
> > > string-derived class? Ah, never mind. Operator overloading is
> > > bad(tm) ;) <= Irony, definitely
> >
> > Definitely? That one strikes me more as sarc
On 10/9/06, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bjoern Schliessmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > E. g. [in Java there is] no operator overloading, but "+"
> > concatenation of strings. What if you'd like to implement your own
> > string-derived class? Ah, never mind. Operator overloading i
Bjoern Schliessmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> E. g. [in Java there is] no operator overloading, but "+"
> concatenation of strings. What if you'd like to implement your own
> string-derived class? Ah, never mind. Operator overloading is
> bad(tm) ;) <= Irony, definitely
Definitely? That one s
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