[RELEASE] Python 3.13.0 (final) released

2024-10-07 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
After all the shenanigans two weeks ago – everyone discovering nasty little problems in release candidate 2 – the last week was suspiciously quiet, and therefore I can finally say: <https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-13-0-final-has-been-released/66972#p-196505-python-3130-is-now-availabl

Re: [Tutor] How to stop a specific thread in Python 2.7?

2024-10-03 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
reexisting Event may be supplied. Return a 2-tuple of `(T,E)`. ''' if E is None: E = Event() T = Thread(target=target, args=[E, *a], kwargs=kw) return T, E Something along those lines. Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [Tutor] How to stop a specific thread in Python 2.7?

2024-10-03 Thread Dan Ciprus (dciprus) via Python-list
I'd be interested too :-). On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 03:34:05AM GMT, marc nicole via Python-list wrote: Could you show a python code example of this? On Thu, 26 Sept 2024, 03:08 Cameron Simpson, wrote: On 25Sep2024 22:56, marc nicole wrote: >How to create a per-thread event in Py

Re: Python crash together with threads

2024-10-03 Thread Left Right via Python-list
> whereas I am quite sure that program flows do not overlap. You can never be sure of this in Python. Virtually all objects in Python are allocated on heap, so instantiating integers, doing simple arithmetic etc. -- all of this requires synchronization because it will allocate memory for a sha

Re: Python crash together with threads

2024-10-02 Thread Louis Krupp via Python-list
On 10/2/2024 7:26 AM, Guenther Sohler wrote: My Software project is working fine in most of the cases (www.pythonscad.org) however I am right now isolating a scenario, which makes it crash permanently. It does not happen with Python 3.11.6 (and possibly below), it happens with 3.12 and above

Python crash together with threads

2024-10-02 Thread Guenther Sohler via Python-list
My Software project is working fine in most of the cases (www.pythonscad.org) however I am right now isolating a scenario, which makes it crash permanently. It does not happen with Python 3.11.6 (and possibly below), it happens with 3.12 and above It does not happen when not using Threads

[RELEASE] Python 3.13.0rc3 and 3.12.7 released.

2024-10-01 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
This is not the release you’re looking for… (unless you’re looking for 3.12.7.) Because no plan survives contact with reality, instead of the actual Python 3.13.0 release we have a new Python 3.13 release candidate today. Python 3.13.0rc3 rolls back the incremental cyclic garbage collector (GC

ANN: Python Meeting Düsseldorf - 02.10.2024

2024-09-30 Thread eGenix Team via Python-list
/This announcement is in German since it targets a local user group//meeting in Düsseldorf, Germany/ Ankündigung Python Meeting Düsseldorf - Oktober 2024 <https://www.egenix.com/company/news/Python-Meeting-Duesseldorf-2024-10-02> Ein Treffen von Python Enthusiast

Re: How to stop a specific thread in Python 2.7?

2024-09-26 Thread Left Right via Python-list
y) modify the shared state observed by other threads in such a way that it becomes unusable to other threads. So... if you want to kill a thread, I'm sorry to say this: you will have to bring down the whole process, there's really no other way, and that's not Python-specific, this is

Re: [Tutor] How to stop a specific thread in Python 2.7?

2024-09-25 Thread marc nicole via Python-list
Could you show a python code example of this? On Thu, 26 Sept 2024, 03:08 Cameron Simpson, wrote: > On 25Sep2024 22:56, marc nicole wrote: > >How to create a per-thread event in Python 2.7? > > Every time you make a Thread, make an Event. Pass it to the thread > worker funct

Re: How to stop a specific thread in Python 2.7?

2024-09-25 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
On 25Sep2024 22:56, marc nicole wrote: How to create a per-thread event in Python 2.7? Every time you make a Thread, make an Event. Pass it to the thread worker function and keep it to hand for your use outside the thread. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How to stop a specific thread in Python 2.7?

2024-09-25 Thread marc nicole via Python-list
How to create a per-thread event in Python 2.7? On Wed, 25 Sept 2024, 22:47 Cameron Simpson via Python-list, < python-list@python.org> wrote: > On 25Sep2024 19:24, marc nicole wrote: > >I want to know how to kill a specific running thread (say by its id) > > > >for

Re: How to stop a specific thread in Python 2.7?

2024-09-25 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
if it becomes set. You just need a per-thred vent instead of a single Event for all the threads. Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

How to stop a specific thread in Python 2.7?

2024-09-25 Thread marc nicole via Python-list
() event_thread1.set() I know that set() will kill all running threads, but if there was thread2 as well and I want to kill only thread1? Thanks! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

ANN: A new version (0.5.3) of python-gnupg has been released.

2024-09-20 Thread Vinay Sajip via Python-list
other points via this group). Enjoy! Cheers Vinay Sajip [1] https://github.com/vsajip/python-gnupg [2] https://pypi.org/project/python-gnupg/0.5.3 [3] https://github.com/vsajip/python-gnupg/issues [4] https://github.com/vsajip/python-gnupg/releases/ [5] python-gnupg - A Python wrapper for

Re: Python 3.8 or later on Debian?

2024-09-19 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 9/18/24 08:49, Ulrich Goebel via Python-list wrote: Hi, Debian Linux seems to love Python 3.7 - that is shown by apt-get list, and it's installed on my Debian Server. But I need at least Python 3.8 Is there a repository which I can give to apt to get Python 3.8 or later? Or do I r

Re: Python 3.8 or later on Debian?

2024-09-18 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 9/18/2024 10:49 AM, Ulrich Goebel via Python-list wrote: Hi, Debian Linux seems to love Python 3.7 - that is shown by apt-get list, and it's installed on my Debian Server. But I need at least Python 3.8 Is there a repository which I can give to apt to get Python 3.8 or later? Or

Re: Python 3.8 or later on Debian?

2024-09-18 Thread dn via Python-list
On 19/09/24 02:49, Ulrich Goebel via Python-list wrote: Hi, Debian Linux seems to love Python 3.7 - that is shown by apt-get list, and it's installed on my Debian Server. But I need at least Python 3.8 Is there a repository which I can give to apt to get Python 3.8 or later? Or do I r

Re: Python 3.8 or later on Debian?

2024-09-18 Thread Alexander Neilson via Python-list
Python 3.7 is part of Buster (Debian old old stable) If you moved to Debian bullseye you would get offered 3.9 (old stable) Currently the stable version (Bookworm) would give you 3.11 I am not aware of anyone maintaining a repo for old Debian versions to get newer Python versions. But I know in

Python 3.8 or later on Debian?

2024-09-18 Thread Ulrich Goebel via Python-list
Hi, Debian Linux seems to love Python 3.7 - that is shown by apt-get list, and it's installed on my Debian Server. But I need at least Python 3.8 Is there a repository which I can give to apt to get Python 3.8 or later? Or do I really have to install and compile these versions manually

Re: psycopg2 positioning of .commit() (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-09-11 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
case of an exception is completely > unnecessary: the DBMS will take care of that for you. No, it won't. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: psycopg2 positioning of .commit() (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-09-10 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2024-09-09, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 9 Sep 2024 10:00:11 - (UTC), Jon Ribbens wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2024-09-09, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>

Re: psycopg2 positioning of .commit() (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-09-10 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2024-09-10, Karsten Hilbert wrote: > Am Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 08:38:30AM - schrieb Jon Ribbens via Python-list: >> Ok. So we've moved away from "In any DBMS worth its salt, rollback is >> something that happens automatically" > > Nope. The original pos

Re: psycopg2 positioning of .commit() (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-09-10 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
Am Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 08:38:30AM - schrieb Jon Ribbens via Python-list: > Ok. So we've moved away from "In any DBMS worth its salt, rollback is > something that happens automatically" Nope. The original post asked something entirely different. > and now you'

Re: psycopg2 positioning of .commit() (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-09-10 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
eiro wrote: >>>>> The database only needs to commit when it is explicitly told. >>>>> Anything less -- no commit. >>>> >>>> So the Python code is half-way through a transaction when it throws a >>>> (non-database-related) exception

Re: psycopg2 positioning of .commit() (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-09-09 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2024-09-09, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Mon, 9 Sep 2024 10:00:11 - (UTC), Jon Ribbens wrote: >> On 2024-09-09, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> The database only needs to commit when it is explicitly told. Anything >>> less -- no commit. >>

Re: psycopg2 positioning of .commit() (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-09-09 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2024-09-09, Karsten Hilbert wrote: > Am Mon, Sep 09, 2024 at 10:00:11AM - schrieb Jon Ribbens via Python-list: >> So the Python code is half-way through a transaction when it throws >> a (non-database-related) exception and that thread of execution is >> aborted. Th

Re: psycopg2 positioning of .commit() (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-09-09 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
Am Mon, Sep 09, 2024 at 10:00:11AM - schrieb Jon Ribbens via Python-list: > So the Python code is half-way through a transaction when it throws > a (non-database-related) exception and that thread of execution is > aborted. The database connection returns to the pool, How does it

Re: psycopg2 positioning of .commit() (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-09-09 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
Am Mon, Sep 09, 2024 at 10:00:11AM - schrieb Jon Ribbens via Python-list: > > The database only needs to commit when it is explicitly told. Anything > > less -- no commit. > > So the Python code is half-way through a transaction when it throws > a (non-database-relate

Re: psycopg2 positioning of .commit() (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-09-09 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
uding a program or > system crash. If it's a program or system crash, sure, but anything less than that - how would the database even know, unless the program told it? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: psycopg2 positioning of .commit() (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-09-09 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
m crash, sure, but anything less than that - >> how would the database even know, unless the program told it? > > The database only needs to commit when it is explicitly told. Anything > less -- no commit. So the Python code is half-way through a transaction when it throws a

[RELEASE] Python 3.13.0RC2, 3.12.6, 3.11.10, 3.10.15, 3.9.20, and 3.8.20 are now available!

2024-09-07 Thread Łukasz Langa via Python-list
Hi there! A big joint release today. Mostly security fixes but we also have the final release candidate of 3.13 so let’s start with that! Python 3.13.0RC2 Final opportunity to test and find any show-stopper bugs before we bless and release 3.13.0 final on October 1st. Get it here: Python

Re: BitChan (python project)

2024-09-06 Thread Schimon Jehudah via Python-list
Greetings, 711! This is very good! Do you know of Plebbit? It might be good to interoperate with Plebbit too. https://plebbit.com/ Kind regards, Schimon On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 04:53:05 - 711 Spooky Mart via Python-list wrote: > from https://github.com/813492291816/BitChan > > B

BitChan (python project)

2024-09-05 Thread 711 Spooky Mart via Python-list
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Re: Crash when launching python

2024-09-05 Thread Barry via Python-list
> On 5 Sep 2024, at 02:32, Greg Ewing via Python-list > wrote: > > Normally it's in the .app/Contents/MacOS subdirectory. The name > varies, but there's usually just one executable file in there. Run that > from a shell and you should see anything written to stdo

Re: Crash when launching python

2024-09-04 Thread Greg Ewing via Python-list
ere's usually just one executable file in there. Run that from a shell and you should see anything written to stdout or stderr. -- Greg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Crash when launching python

2024-09-04 Thread Barry Scott via Python-list
> On 4 Sep 2024, at 16:27, Guenther Sohler via Python-list > wrote: > > Is it possible to turn on debugging and to display on the console, where > python is loading files from ? > I assume you have a .app that is then packaged into a .dmg. It will be the .app that

Re: Crash when launching python

2024-09-04 Thread dn via Python-list
On 5/09/24 03:27, Guenther Sohler via Python-list wrote: Hi, My "Project" is to integrate python support into OpenSCAD. It runs quite well, but there are still issues on MacOS. On My MacOS it works, but it crashes when I ship the DMG files. It looks very much like python is not ab

Crash when launching python

2024-09-04 Thread Guenther Sohler via Python-list
Hi, My "Project" is to integrate python support into OpenSCAD. It runs quite well, but there are still issues on MacOS. On My MacOS it works, but it crashes when I ship the DMG files. It looks very much like python is not able to find the "startup" python files and there

RE: [Tutor] Getting a Process.start() error pickle.PicklingError: Can't pickle : it's not found as __builtin__.module with Python 2.7

2024-09-03 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
tware or interest. -Original Message- From: Tutor On Behalf Of Alan Gauld via Tutor Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2024 4:41 AM To: tu...@python.org Cc: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: [Tutor] Getting a Process.start() error pickle.PicklingError: Can't pickle : it's not found

Re: Getting a Process.start() error pickle.PicklingError: Can't pickle : it's not found as __builtin__.module with Python 2.7

2024-09-03 Thread geodandw via Python-list
On 9/2/24 11:36, Barry Scott wrote: On 2 Sep 2024, at 15:00, marc nicole via Python-list wrote: I am using Python 2.7 on Windows 10 Why? Install Python 3.12 and it will be easier to get help and support. If you have legacy that still needs porting then you can install 3.12 along side the

Python told me a Joke

2024-09-03 Thread Alan Bawden via Python-list
Python 3.10.5 (v3.10.5:f37715, Jul 10 2022, 00:26:17) [GCC 4.9.2] on linux Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> x,_,z = [1,2,3] Works as expected. Now I didn't expect the following to

Re: Python told me a Joke

2024-09-03 Thread Mild Shock via Python-list
You can try: >>> 1,2 == 2,2 (1, True, 2) Its the same as: >>> 1, (2 == 2), 2 (1, True, 2) Hope this helps! Alan Bawden schrieb: Python 3.10.5 (v3.10.5:f37715, Jul 10 2022, 00:26:17) [GCC 4.9.2] on linux Type "help", "copyright", "

Re: [Tutor] Getting a Process.start() error pickle.PicklingError: Can't pickle : it's not found as __builtin__.module with Python 2.7

2024-09-03 Thread marc nicole via Python-list
ny message. Module naming is OK and don't think it is a problem related to that. Now the question, when to use Process/Multiprocess and when to use Threading in Python?.Thread is there a distinctive use case that can showcase when to use either? are they interchangeable? to note that using Th

Re: Getting a Process.start() error pickle.PicklingError: Can't pickle : it's not found as __builtin__.module with Python 2.7

2024-09-02 Thread Barry Scott via Python-list
> On 2 Sep 2024, at 15:00, marc nicole via Python-list > wrote: > > I am using Python 2.7 on Windows 10 Why? Install Python 3.12 and it will be easier to get help and support. If you have legacy that still needs porting then you can install 3.12 along side the unsupported 3

Getting a Process.start() error pickle.PicklingError: Can't pickle : it's not found as __builtin__.module with Python 2.7

2024-09-02 Thread marc nicole via Python-list
Hello, I am using Python 2.7 on Windows 10 and I want to launch a process independently of the rest of the code so that the execution continues while the started process proceeds. I am using Process().start() from Python 2.7 as follows: from multiprocessing import Process def do_something(text

Re: Triggered By Mediocre Code (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-08-27 Thread Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list
others :-) bye, -- piergiorgio -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Triggered By Mediocre Code (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-08-26 Thread rbowman via Python-list
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ANN: EmPy 4.2 -- a powerful, robust and mature templating system for Python

2024-08-25 Thread Erik Max Francis via Python-list
# EmPy 4.2 release announcement I'm pleased to announce the release of EmPy 4.2. The 4._x_ series is a modernization of the software and a revamp of the EmPy system to update its feature set and make it more consistent with the latest Python versions and practices. EmPy 4._x_ was

performance test on python with C API interface

2024-08-20 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
I would like to present you with a performance test where Python performs very well in relation to the NHI1 project regarding the integration of Python into C. -> results: http://thedev.nhi1.de/theLink/main/md_docs_2main_2README__PERFORMANCE.htm#README_PERFORMANCE -> project

[RELEASE] Python 3.12.5 released

2024-08-07 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
Python 3.12.5 is now available: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3125/ This is the fifth maintenance release of Python 3.12 Python 3.12 is the newest major release of the Python programming language, and it contains many new features and optimizations. 3.12.5 is the latest

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-06 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 10:53 AM Bill Deegan wrote: > I’m not looking through all the packages you have installed > > (Ctrl-F is your friend - - - ) > What version of python is installed on your system? > > There are actually 3 versions installed - - - which is why the who

Re: Issue bootstrapping Python - troubleshooting steps?

2024-08-06 Thread Barry Scott via Python-list
> On 6 Aug 2024, at 02:49, Piper McCorkle via Python-list > wrote: > > $ /tmp/sources/Python-3.12.4/configure --enable-shared --with-system-expat > --enable-optimizations --prefix= I assume that you must provide a value for --prefix. The linux default would be --pre

Re: python C-api and thread

2024-08-06 Thread Barry Scott via Python-list
> On 6 Aug 2024, at 07:11, aotto1968 via Python-list > wrote: > > I know but I use a thread like a process because the "conversation" between > the threads is done by my > software. a Thread is usually faster to startup (thread-pool) this mean for > high-lo

Re: python C-api and thread

2024-08-06 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 06.08.24 04:34, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2024-08-05, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: Is it possible to run two completely independent Python interpreters in one process, each using a thread? By independent, I mean that no data is shared between the interpreters and thus the C API can be

Re: python C-api and thread (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-08-06 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 06.08.24 02:32, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: On Mon, 5 Aug 2024 23:19:14 +0200, aotto1968 wrote: Is it possible to run two completely independent Python interpreters in one process, each using a thread? By independent, I mean that no data is shared between the interpreters and thus the

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-06 Thread Bill Deegan via Python-list
I’m not looking through all the packages you have installed What version of python is installed on your system? On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 5:24 AM o1bigtenor wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 10:36 PM Bill Deegan > wrote: > >> why reply to me instead of to the li

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-06 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
ys happening. I did apologize and asked you to advise in the next one whether you even wanted to be included (which you haven't responded to). > > > Do you have any python 3 installed on your system? > Or python 2.7? > If not, can you install such via system package?

Issue bootstrapping Python - troubleshooting steps?

2024-08-05 Thread Piper McCorkle via Python-list
Hi! I'm working on a Linux From Scratch sort of system, and part of that is bootstrapping Python. I'm running into an error message in the compilation though - could anyone help me with next steps on troubleshooting the error? Error: > ./_bootstrap_python /tmp/sources/Python-3.

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread Bill Deegan via Python-list
why reply to me instead of to the list? It's generally considered bad form to do so. Do you have any python 3 installed on your system? Or python 2.7? If not, can you install such via system package? -Bill On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 6:06 PM o1bigtenor wrote: > > > On Mon, Au

Re: python C-api and thread

2024-08-05 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 08:48, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > > hi, > > Is it possible to run two completely independent Python interpreters in one > process, each using a thread? > > By independent, I mean that no data is shared between the interpreters and > th

Re: python C-api and thread

2024-08-05 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-08-05, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > Is it possible to run two completely independent Python interpreters > in one process, each using a thread? > > By independent, I mean that no data is shared between the > interpreters and thus the C API can be used without any ot

python C-api and thread

2024-08-05 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
hi, Is it possible to run two completely independent Python interpreters in one process, each using a thread? By independent, I mean that no data is shared between the interpreters and thus the C API can be used without any other "lock/GIL" etc. mfg -- https://mail.python.o

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread Bill Deegan via Python-list
Did Mats suggestion of: python3.13 -m venv new_venv $ new_venv/bin/python --version Python 3.13.0b4 $ source new_venv/bin/activate Not work? That should work on any system, with any system installl python. It's not trying to modify the system installed python in anyway... If not, please

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 8/5/24 15:17, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: That's something like pyenv install 3.12.4 $ pyenv install 3.12.4 bash: pyenv: command not found pyenv is not a 'global' package there is a mountain of /root/.pyenv files though there is also quite a number of /root

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 3:56 PM Mats Wichmann wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 8:51 AM Mats Wichmann > <mailto:m...@wichmann.us>> wrote: > > > > On 8/5/24 06:48, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 8:49 AM Mats Wi

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 3:55 PM Bill Deegan wrote: > Your approach is wrong. > You don't build python from source using pip. > > You don't install new versions of python into a venv either. > > Have you read the following? > https://docs.micropython.org/en/lat

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 8/5/24 14:39, o1bigtenor wrote: Matt - if you would rather that you were not included in the address list - - please advise. On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 8:51 AM Mats Wichmann <mailto:m...@wichmann.us>> wrote: On 8/5/24 06:48, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > On Sun, Au

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread Bill Deegan via Python-list
Your approach is wrong. You don't build python from source using pip. You don't install new versions of python into a venv either. Have you read the following? https://docs.micropython.org/en/latest/esp8266/tutorial/intro.html That seems to have instructions for what you want to d

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
Matt - if you would rather that you were not included in the address list - - please advise. On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 8:51 AM Mats Wichmann wrote: > On 8/5/24 06:48, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 8:49 AM Mats Wichmann via Python-list < > > pyth

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 8/5/24 06:48, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 8:49 AM Mats Wichmann via Python-list < python-list@python.org> wrote: On 8/3/24 20:03, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: My question was, is and will be (and the doc absolutely doesn't cover it) how do

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 8:49 AM Mats Wichmann via Python-list < python-list@python.org> wrote: > On 8/3/24 20:03, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > > My question was, is and will be (and the doc absolutely doesn't cover it) > > how do I install a different versi

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 4:24 AM Peter J. Holzer via Python-list < python-list@python.org> wrote: > On 2024-08-03 15:17:11 -0500, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > One of the tools I need to be able to use is esptools - - well in the > > devuan world you need to run that

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-04 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 8/3/24 20:03, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: My question was, is and will be (and the doc absolutely doesn't cover it) how do I install a different version in the venv so that python 3.11.x on the system is not discombobulated by the python 3.12.x in the venv. That python 3.12 woul

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-04 Thread Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
On 2024-08-03 15:17:11 -0500, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > One of the tools I need to be able to use is esptools - - well in the > devuan world you need to run that on either Devaun 3 or 5 - - - its just > not available on devuan 4. Couldn't you just upgrade to Devuan 5, t

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 7:11 PM dn via Python-list wrote: > On 4/08/24 09:34, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 4:06 PM dn via Python-list < > python-list@python.org> > > wrote: > > > >> On 4/08/24 08:17, o1bigtenor

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 6:20 PM Cameron Simpson via Python-list < python-list@python.org> wrote: > On 03Aug2024 16:34, o1bigtenor wrote: > >So please - - - how do I set up a venv so that I can install and run > >python > >3.12 > >(and other needed programs relate

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread dn via Python-list
On 4/08/24 09:34, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 4:06 PM dn via Python-list wrote: On 4/08/24 08:17, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: Greetings Looking at ESP8266 and wanting to program it using micropython (really don't want to have to learn C++ (not enough

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
On 03Aug2024 16:34, o1bigtenor wrote: So please - - - how do I set up a venv so that I can install and run python 3.12 (and other needed programs related to 3.12) inside? Maybe this github comment will help with this: https://github.com/orgs/micropython/discussions/10255#discussioncomment

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 4:06 PM dn via Python-list wrote: > On 4/08/24 08:17, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > Greetings > > > > Looking at ESP8266 and wanting to program it using micropython (really > > don't want to have to learn C++ (not enough hours in the

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread dn via Python-list
On 4/08/24 08:17, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: Greetings Looking at ESP8266 and wanting to program it using micropython (really don't want to have to learn C++ (not enough hours in the day as it is!!)). One of the tools I need to be able to use is esptools - - well in the devuan

Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
nd have my cake (and get to eat it too (grin!). Suggestions - - - ideas - - - please? TIA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.13.0 release candidate 1 released

2024-08-01 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
Python 3.13 *release candidate 1* is now available. https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3130rc1/ <https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-13-0-release-candidate-1-released/59703#p-181511-this-is-the-first-release-candidate-of-python-3130-1>This is the first release candidate of

[RELEASE] Python 3.13.0 beta 4 released.

2024-07-18 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
Python 3.13.0b4, the final beta of Python 3.13, is now available: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3130b4/ *This is a beta preview of Python 3.13* Python 3.13 is still in development. This release, 3.13.0b4, is the *final* beta release preview of 3.13. Beta release previews are

Re: Password Hash Validation (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-07-12 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro via Python-list
arious functions of the module. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python repl vi mode line editing not working.

2024-07-11 Thread Tobiah via Python-list
I see the literal 'escape' character + 'k', when it should let me edit previous commands. I did have to compile my own python because I'm using 2.7 on this machine. I figured it out. I needed to apt install libreadline-dev. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python repl vi mode line editing not working.

2024-07-11 Thread Tobiah via Python-list
For this to work, the Python implementation should use the same readline library as your shell, I guess. It works in python3, so I guess my problem is that I'm compiling python (I think kubuntu dropped python2), but I don't see any relevant options in the configure help.

python repl vi mode line editing not working.

2024-07-11 Thread Tobiah via Python-list
Kubuntu 24.04. sinewave:toby ~(1)> cat .inputrc set editing-mode vi set keymap vi sinewave:toby ~(1)> cat .editrc bind -v bind \\t rl_complete sinewave:toby ~(1)> python Python 2.7.18 (default, Jul 8 2024, 12:49:12) [GCC 13.2.0] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright"

Re: python for irc client

2024-07-08 Thread orzodk via Python-list
Daniel via Python-list writes: > One thing missing is a good textmode irc client that will connect to > quassel core. > > I've seen efforts to make a plugin for weechat but, to date, I don't see much > progress on that end. > > In your wisdom, would python be a

Re: Best (simplest) way to share data (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-07-08 Thread Chris Green via Python-list
ns of characters that would be kept up to date by one process and asked for by all the others. -- Chris Green · -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python for irc client

2024-07-04 Thread Daniel via Python-list
inhahe writes: > On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 5:14 AM Daniel via Python-list < > python-list@python.org> wrote: > >> Hi guys - >> >> I have historical experience developing sofwtare for my own use. It has >> been >> quite a while since doing so and the a

Re: python for irc client

2024-07-04 Thread Left Right via Python-list
Hi. Just FYI, I use Erc (in Emacs). I'm not a very advanced user, perhaps, but I never felt like I miss anything. That's not to stop you from making your own, but if you just need a decent text client for IRC, then there's already at least one. On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 11:30 AM in

Re: python for irc client

2024-07-04 Thread inhahe via Python-list
On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 5:22 AM inhahe wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 5:14 AM Daniel via Python-list < > python-list@python.org> wrote: > >> >> In your wisdom, would python be a good environment to accomplish this? > > > I think Python would be

Re: python for irc client

2024-07-04 Thread inhahe via Python-list
On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 5:14 AM Daniel via Python-list < python-list@python.org> wrote: > Hi guys - > > I have historical experience developing sofwtare for my own use. It has > been > quite a while since doing so and the advent of new languages has brought me > here.

python for irc client

2024-07-04 Thread Daniel via Python-list
Hi guys - I have historical experience developing sofwtare for my own use. It has been quite a while since doing so and the advent of new languages has brought me here. Python has built quite a reputation. It would be fun to pick up a new language while I'm at it. I've been a consu

ANN: eGenix PyRun - One file Python Runtime 2.5.0

2024-07-01 Thread eGenix Team via Python-list
*ANNOUNCING* eGenix PyRun - One file Python Runtime Version 2.5.0 Python runtime taking up just 4-6MB on disk This announcement is also available on our web-site for online reading: https://www.egenix.com/company/news/eGenix-PyRun-2.5.0-GA.html

[RELEASE] Python 3.13.0 beta 3 released.

2024-06-27 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
The *next to last* Python 3.13 beta version, beta 3, is now released: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3130b3/ *This is a beta preview of Python 3.13* Python 3.13 is still in development. This release, 3.13.0b3, is the third of four beta release previews of 3.13. Beta release

Re: [Tutor] How to install tensorflow on Python 2.7 in Windows?

2024-06-26 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 6/26/24 09:29, marc nicole wrote: Browsing the available version of tensorflow for the dates before January 2021 (date when Python 2.7 stopped being supported) I can't find a tensorflow version for Python 2.7 that works under Windows. The reference site I use is https://pypi.org/pr

How to install tensorflow on Python 2.7 in Windows?

2024-06-26 Thread marc nicole via Python-list
Browsing the available version of tensorflow for the dates before January 2021 (date when Python 2.7 stopped being supported) I can't find a tensorflow version for Python 2.7 that works under Windows. The reference site I use is https://pypi.org/project/tensorflow/ Anybody can point

RE: [Tutor] How to go about a simple object grabbing in python (given coordinates of arms and objects)

2024-06-24 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
Marc, Several people have supplied feedback on whether your request is a good fit for here. Ultimately it is up to the owner/moderator. In particular, your request to the Tutor List may not fit the purpose and be a bit complex and to the main Python List also outside some common usage whether

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