Re: Python IDE: great headache....

2006-03-16 Thread Dag Fjeld Edvardsen
Come to think of it, the only exception is probably that PyScripter (AFAIK) does not provide conditional pause. Quoting myself :) But now it does! Conditional breakpoints were introduced in the new version released on the 14th of March: http://mmm-experts.com/ -Dag --

Re: Python IDE: great headache....

2006-03-14 Thread Michael Amrhein
Sullivan WxPyQtKinter schrieb: IDLE is no longer satisfactory for me. Other IDEs make me very confused. Really do not know which one to use. I use WinXP sp2 for current development. So far as I know, Eclipse + PyDev + PyDev Extension is perfect for source code editing. Since I am really

Re: Python IDE: great headache....

2006-03-13 Thread Joel Hedlund
Anyone knows if this platform is a good one? It's very good. It's comfortable, helpful and stable. Also looks good. Eclipse + Pydev does most, if not all, of your list - I am not sure what you mean by conditional pause - plus a whole lot more. Maybe he means conditional breakpoints?

Re: Python IDE: great headache....

2006-03-13 Thread 3KWA
Vim + iPython does most of it doesn't it? That's where I am after I became a bit frustrated with Idle (which I still use on odd occasions). EuGeNe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python IDE: great headache....

2006-03-13 Thread Don Taylor
Joel Hedlund wrote: If you install Eclipse and try to use it without reading the Workbench User Guide then you are not going to get anywhere. Woah, easy now! I never read any Workbench User Guide and I'm doing just fine with PyDev. Fabio Zadrozny (PyDev developer) wrote an excellent

Re: Python IDE: great headache....

2006-03-13 Thread Joel Hedlund
Sorry to offend, I was just extrapoloating from personal experience. No worries, man. No offense taken :-) but I could not get going with Eclipse ... Even installing it the first time seemed to be a mystery. Yeah I felt the same too when I first installed it. I had in fact given up using

Re: Python IDE: great headache....

2006-03-13 Thread Caleb Hattingh
Hi Being a Delphi user at work, I know what you mean :) The best python IDE I have found is Stani's Python Editor (SPE), and I think Stani himself replied to your message as well. It integrates wxGlade, which is nice for form-building, although I don't really do much of that with the python

Re: Python IDE: great headache....

2006-03-13 Thread Dag Fjeld Edvardsen
What features exactly does it not have? Come to think of it, the only exception is probably that PyScripter (AFAIK) does not provide conditional pause. But I really like it. PyScripter is written in Delphi, my other favorite language :) -Dag --

Re: Python IDE: great headache....

2006-03-12 Thread Dag Fjeld Edvardsen
I like PyScripter. It has some of, but not all, the features you request. http://mmm-experts.com/Products.aspx?ProductId=4 -Dag -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python IDE: great headache....

2006-03-12 Thread Fabio Zadrozny
Hi Sullivan,Just to let you know, pydev does all that you asked for (and if there's something you're missing you might want to add a feature request to it: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=85796atid=577332)Some notes:To change the indentation in 'blocks', just select the lines you want

Re: Python IDE: great headache....

2006-03-12 Thread jussij
I use WinXP sp2 for current development. You might want to take a look at the Zeus for Windows IDE: http://www.zeusedit.com Here is how Zeus stacks up to your check list: I hope that an IDE should be featured with: 1. Grammar Colored highlights. It does syntax coloring for Python. 2.

Re: Python IDE: great headache....

2006-03-12 Thread BWill
Dag Fjeld Edvardsen wrote: I like PyScripter. It has some of, but not all, the features you request. http://mmm-experts.com/Products.aspx?ProductId=4 -Dag Hey, that looks neat, and its open source too. Why have I not heard of it? I can have Eclipse-style sub-window management without

Python IDE: great headache....

2006-03-11 Thread Sullivan WxPyQtKinter
IDLE is no longer satisfactory for me. Other IDEs make me very confused. Really do not know which one to use. I use WinXP sp2 for current development. So far as I know, Eclipse + PyDev + PyDev Extension is perfect for source code editing. Since I am really not sure how to use the debugger

Re: Python IDE: great headache....

2006-03-11 Thread Rene Pijlman
Sullivan WxPyQtKinter: I hope that an IDE should be featured with: I use WingIDE 2.1.0 (beta1) and I'm pleased with it. 1. Grammar Colored highlights. Yes, Wing does that. 2. Manage project in a tree view or something alike, ie, a project file navigator. Yes. 3. Code collapse and folding.

Re: Python IDE: great headache....

2006-03-11 Thread Michael Ekstrand
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 01:03:36 +0100 Rene Pijlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5. Debugging: Breakpoints, conditional pause. watch for variables.step into, over and out of a function. Yes. I'll second the recommendation of Wing's debugging. Best debugger I've seen, any language, period. Only 2

Re: Python IDE: great headache....

2006-03-11 Thread Don Taylor
Sullivan WxPyQtKinter wrote: IDLE is no longer satisfactory for me. Other IDEs make me very confused. Really do not know which one to use. I use WinXP sp2 for current development. So far as I know, Eclipse + PyDev + PyDev Extension is perfect for source code editing. Since I am really not

Re: Python IDE: great headache....

2006-03-11 Thread gregarican
Sullivan wrote: IDLE is no longer satisfactory for me. Other IDEs make me very confused. Really do not know which one to use. I use WinXP sp2 for current development. Personally I have gotten used to coding using ActiveState's Komodo. It doesn't get in my way and offers the basic features I

Re: Python IDE: great headache....

2006-03-11 Thread SPE - Stani's Python Editor
I've got used to SPE(editor)+WinPdb(debugger) not surprisingly of course ;-) Concerning the free-of-charge IDE's, things might change quite a bit. You might have read this: