Adrian Holovaty wrote:
> bruno at modulix wrote:
>
>>RoR is not an IDE, it's a web framework. The closest things in Python
>>are TurboGears (good Ajax/js support via Mochikit), Subway (never
>>tested), and Django (no Ajax support AFAIK).
>
>
> Note that "no Ajax support" is misleading. Of course
bruno at modulix wrote:
> Adrian, what you describe here is *exactly* what I call "no Ajax
> support": you have to handle the whole thing manually, the framework
>doesn't provide anything by itself.
I'm not going to argue whether Django supports "Ajax" or not, but I
will agree that for the desired
bruno at modulix wrote:
> Adrian, what you describe here is *exactly* what I call "no Ajax
> support": you have to handle the whole thing manually, the framework
>doesn't provide anything by itself.
I'm not going to argue whether Django supports "Ajax" or not, but I
will agree that for the desired
bruno at modulix wrote:
> Adrian, what you describe here is *exactly* what I call "no Ajax
> support": you have to handle the whole thing manually, the framework
>doesn't provide anything by itself.
I'm not going to argue whether Django supports "Ajax" or not, but I
will agree that for the desired
bruno at modulix wrote:
> Adrian, what you describe here is *exactly* what I call "no Ajax
> support": you have to handle the whole thing manually, the framework
> doesn't provide anything by itself. Would you say the CGI module offers
> support for templating, data persistance and Ajax as well ?-)
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paul Boddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I personally don't believe very strongly in this server-side
>serialisation of various non-displayable formats for potentially large
>amounts of client-side code to unpack, process, stuff into different
>places, and so on. As
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This is certainly a worthy topic. There are several IDEs for Python
(one I like very much being Komodo) that have plenty of fancy
debugging features and advanced operations, however I have yet to
encounter (elsewhere) the convenience that comes with being able to
press F5 and have an interactive in
Daniel Bickett wrote:
This is certainly a worthy topic. There are several IDEs for Python
(one I like very much being Komodo) that have plenty of fancy
debugging features and advanced operations, however I have yet to
encounter (elsewhere) the convenience that comes with being able to
press F5 and
WingIDE looks nice though, and it seems that the interactive shell is
built in from the screenshots. Can you run a program to a certain point
break point and use the shell?
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 23:40:40 -0500, Stephen Waterbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Daniel Bickett wrote:
This is certai
If you use IPython for your interactive mode stuff, you'll have a nice
history...
Regards,
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Fuzzyman a écrit :
If you use IPython for your interactive mode stuff, you'll have a nice
history...
Regards,
Fuzzy
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Best event : if your "EDITOR" system variable in "vim", using the "ed"
command in ipython will bring "vim" with (eventually) the code y
Daniel Bickett a écrit :
This is certainly a worthy topic. There are several IDEs for Python
(one I like very much being Komodo) that have plenty of fancy
debugging features and advanced operations, however I have yet to
encounter (elsewhere) the convenience that comes with being able to
press F5 a
Pierre Barbier de Reuille a écrit :
Fuzzyman a écrit :
If you use IPython for your interactive mode stuff, you'll have a nice
history...
Regards,
Fuzzy
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/index.shtml
Best event : if your "EDITOR" system variable in "vim", using the "ed"
command in ipython will brin
[Ashot]
> I have been frustrated for quite some time with a lack of a history
> command in IDLE
To recall a line from your history in IDLE, cursor up to that line and hit
Enter.
> I've tried something called pyCrust, but this too didn't have history
To recall a line from your history in PyCru
Ashot wrote:
WingIDE looks nice though, and it seems that the interactive shell is
built in from the screenshots. Can you run a program to a certain
point break point and use the shell?
Indeed you can - there's an interpreter available that executes in the
context of the current stack frame
Richie Hindle wrote:
[Ashot]
I have been frustrated for quite some time with a lack of a history
command in IDLE
To recall a line from your history in IDLE, cursor up to that line and hit
Enter.
The history is required to be available in a chunk, to copy and paste
into a file.
I've tried some
Ashot said the following on 2/2/2005 9:45 PM:
Vim related:
--
Ideally, it would be nice to have a command mapped to a keystroke that
can append the last executed command to a file. Even better would be a
system that would integrate the file editing and interactive command
[Steve]
> The history is required to be available in a chunk, to copy and paste
> into a file.
I see, sorry, I didn't catch that the first time round.
(In PyCrust you can use Alt+LeftDrag to copy a rectangular selection -
you'll still need to remove any output, but at least you can get rid of
I highly recommend trying pyDev. 0.9 just came out, and I find 0.85
very usable and quite cool. There is nice debug support, and
context-sensitive code completion as well as real-time validation of
your code. This is an exciting project with a bright future in my opinion.
Markus.
Ashot wrote
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:45:48 -0600, rumours say that Ashot
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> might have written:
>I have been frustrated for quite some time with a lack of a history
>command in IDLE (in fact with IDLE in general). Often I'll develop new
>code at the command line, testing each line as I go.
I think SPE has exactly what you need. Next to the shell there is the
session, which has only the commands typed on the interactive prompt.
Stani
http://spe.pycs.net
Ashot wrote:
> This is sort of both Python and Vim related (which is why I've posted
to
> both newsgroups).
>
> Python related:
>
Have a gander at Boa Constructor.
YOu can certainly go to a shell when debugging. (ie set breakpoint)
then the shell is attached to that context.
T
Ashot wrote:
This is sort of both Python and Vim related (which is why I've posted
to both newsgroups).
Python related:
--
I hav
Ashot wrote:
> This is sort of both Python and Vim related (which is why I've posted
to
> both newsgroups).
>
> Python related:
> --
> I have been frustrated for quite some time with a lack of a history
> command in IDLE (in fact with IDLE in general). Often I'll develop
new
>
Hi,
Ashot wrote:
> This is sort of both Python and Vim related (which is why I've posted to
> both newsgroups).
[...]
I know you've been using ipython recently (the readline color bugs), so perhaps
my reply is a bit redundant. Forgive me if that's the case, I just want to
give you some useful
On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:07:40 -0700, Fernando Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
Ashot wrote:
This is sort of both Python and Vim related (which is why I've posted to
both newsgroups).
[...]
I know you've been using ipython recently (the readline color bugs), so perhaps
my reply is a bit redundant
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 00:55:07 -0600, Ashot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:07:40 -0700, Fernando Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
Ashot wrote:
This is sort of both Python and Vim related (which is why I've posted to
both newsgroups).
[...]
I know you've been using ipython recen
Ashot wrote:
> yup, this is why I've been using it, its (almost exactly :) what I was looking
> for. I had tried it before, but was reluctant to use it because the windows
> terminal is not very appealing. Some things I've noticed so far that I think
> could be improved, some of which are minor b
Ashot wrote:
> Sorry, a few more things I forgot to mention having to do with editing
> multiline entries in the console:
>
> Autotab setting doesn't seem to have any effect, I have to type "ctrl-o"
> manually
I've noticed it doesn't work under win32. It's fine under *nix. There's only
so much
Hi,
Could anyone suggest me a simple IDE suitable for teaching Python as a
first programming language to high school students? It is necessary
that it has a good support for input/output in Cyrillic.
Unfortunately, most IDEs I tried failed miserably in this respect. My
test was simple: I've run
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 10:08:22PM +0300, Oleg Broytmann wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:01:04PM +0200, Kirill Simonov wrote:
> > Could anyone suggest me a simple IDE suitable for teaching Python as a
> > first programming language to high school students?
>
>Does it have to be an IDE? Wou
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 01:22:44PM -0600, Larry Bates wrote:
> Oleg Broytmann wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:01:04PM +0200, Kirill Simonov wrote:
> >> Could anyone suggest me a simple IDE suitable for teaching Python as a
> >> first programming language to high school students?
> >
> >D
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Kirill Simonov wrote:
> PyScripter does, indeed, look nice, but unfortunately it appeared to
> have similar issues with cyrillic support. Thank you anyway for the
> suggestion.
What are the issues? PyScripter offers full support for utf-8 encoded
files and PEP-263. The editor internally is uni
Kirill Simonov wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Could anyone suggest me a simple IDE suitable for teaching Python as a
> first programming language to high school students? It is necessary
> that it has a good support for input/output in Cyrillic.
>
> Unfortunately, most IDEs I tried failed miserably in this resp
Kirill Simonov si è divertito a scrivere:
> Unfortunately, most IDEs I tried failed miserably in this respect. My
> test was simple: I've run the code
> name = raw_input("What's your name? ") # written in Russian
> print "Hello, %s!" % name # in Russian as well
> both from
On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 12:33:39PM +0100, Alan Franzoni wrote:
> Kirill Simonov si è divertito a scrivere:
>
> > Unfortunately, most IDEs I tried failed miserably in this respect. My
> > test was simple: I've run the code
> > name = raw_input("What's your name? ") # written in Russian
> >
Kirill Simonov si è divertito a scrivere:
> On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 12:33:39PM +0100, Alan Franzoni wrote:
> No, I would prefer the editor to save the .py files with non-ASCII
> characters in UTF-8 encoding adding the BOM at the beginning of the
> file. This will allow the interpreted to detect
On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 03:27:32AM -0800, Leo Kislov wrote:
> IDLE on Windows works fine for your example in interactive console:
>
> >>> name = raw_input("What's your name? ")
Have you tried to use cyrillic characters in a Python string in
interactive console? When I do it, I get the "Unsupporte
On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 03:13:30PM +0100, Alan Franzoni wrote:
> Kirill Simonov si è divertito a scrivere:
>
> > On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 12:33:39PM +0100, Alan Franzoni wrote:
>
> > No, I would prefer the editor to save the .py files with non-ASCII
> > characters in UTF-8 encoding adding the BO
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 06:11:48PM -0800, PyScripter wrote:
> Kirill Simonov wrote:
> > PyScripter does, indeed, look nice, but unfortunately it appeared to
> > have similar issues with cyrillic support. Thank you anyway for the
> > suggestion.
>
>
> What are the issues? PyScripter offers full s
Kirill Simonov wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 03:27:32AM -0800, Leo Kislov wrote:
> > IDLE on Windows works fine for your example in interactive console:
> >
> > >>> name = raw_input("What's your name? ")
>
> Have you tried to use cyrillic characters in a Python string in
> interactive console?
tool69 wrote:
> Sorry, but did someone knows if Pida works under Windows ?
> Thanks.
No, it doesn't really. You can start it up with a bit of hacking, and I
have seen screenshots around, but only with the scintilla-based editor.
We are waiting for SVG support in GTK on windows. Writing a vim-win
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On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:01:04PM +0200, Kirill Simonov wrote:
> Could anyone suggest me a simple IDE suitable for teaching Python as a
> first programming language to high school students?
Does it have to be an IDE? Wouldn't it be better to use a simple text
editor + command line?
Oleg.
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Oleg Broytmann wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:01:04PM +0200, Kirill Simonov wrote:
>
>> Could anyone suggest me a simple IDE suitable for teaching Python as a
>> first programming language to high school students
>>
which operating system would this concern? IDLE which you might find
Oleg Broytmann wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:01:04PM +0200, Kirill Simonov wrote:
>> Could anyone suggest me a simple IDE suitable for teaching Python as a
>> first programming language to high school students?
>
>Does it have to be an IDE? Wouldn't it be better to use a simple text
> ed
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:22:48PM +0200, Kirill Simonov wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 10:08:22PM +0300, Oleg Broytmann wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:01:04PM +0200, Kirill Simonov wrote:
> > > Could anyone suggest me a simple IDE suitable for teaching Python as a
> > > first programming
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 07:20:49PM +, tom wrote:
> Oleg Broytmann wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:01:04PM +0200, Kirill Simonov wrote:
> >
> >> Could anyone suggest me a simple IDE suitable for teaching Python as a
> >> first programming language to high school students
> >>
> whi
On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 10:52:35PM +0300, Oleg Broytmann wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 09:22:48PM +0200, Kirill Simonov wrote:
> > Preferably. I believe that using a editor + command line will only make
> > things worse because console and GUI have different encodings under
> > Windows.
>
>
В сообщении от Воскресенье 19 Ноябрь 2006 01:01 Kirill Simonov написал:
> first programming language to high school students? It is necessary
> Unfortunately, most IDEs I tried failed miserably in this respect. My
> For the record, I've checked IDLE, PythonWin, Eric, DrPython, SPE, and
Pardon
On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 02:49:43AM +0600, Gleb Kulikov wrote:
> В сообщении от Воскресенье 19 Ноябрь 2006 01:01 Kirill Simonov написал:
>
> > first programming language to high school students? It is necessary
>
> > Unfortunately, most IDEs I tried failed miserably in this respect. My
>
> > For
Здравствуйте, Kirill.
Вы писали 18 ноября 2006 г., 22:22:48:
>> > Could anyone suggest me a simple IDE suitable for teaching Python as a
>> > first programming language to high school students?
>>
>>Does it have to be an IDE? Wouldn't it be better to use a simple text
>> editor + command line
Sorry, but did someone knows if Pida works under Windows ?
Thanks.
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