RE: Python advocacy . HELP!

2008-12-24 Thread Sells, Fred
@python.org] On Behalf Of Michael_D_G Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:52 AM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Python advocacy . HELP! I am a faculty member of a cs department. We currently teach C++ in our intro to programming course. I am teaching this class and it seems to me

Re: Python advocacy ... HELP!

2008-12-04 Thread Jeremiah Dodds
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Michael_D_G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a faculty member of a cs department. We currently teach C++ in our intro to programming course. I am teaching this class and it seems to me that we would be much better served teaching python in the intro course, C++

Re: Python advocacy ... HELP!

2008-12-04 Thread Sebastian Kaliszewski
Michael_D_G wrote: how do I refute the notion that Python is a marginal language because according to TOBIE it only less than a 6% market share. According to the same TIOBE, C++ has less than 11%. So it must be niche then as well :) -- Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -- L.

Re: Python advocacy ... HELP!

2008-12-04 Thread Cousin Stanley
I have looked at several interesting academic papers, on doing just this approach. I have also looked through the python web page to get examples of industry players using python in a non-trivial way. Yes, I know, Google, Microsoft, Sun, CIA website running on Plone, NOAA, NASA. If

Re: Python advocacy ... HELP!

2008-12-04 Thread Tim Rowe
2008/12/4 Michael_D_G [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am a faculty member of a cs department. We currently teach C++ in our intro to programming course. I am teaching this class and it seems to me that we would be much better served teaching python in the intro course, C++ for Data structures, as we do

Re: Python advocacy ... HELP!

2008-12-04 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen
Tim Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try asking Are we teaching computer science, so that the students will be able to cope with whatever they meet once they graduate, or are we teaching computer programming, in a couple of specific languages, so that the students will be completely unprepared

Python advocacy ... HELP!

2008-12-03 Thread Michael_D_G
I am a faculty member of a cs department. We currently teach C++ in our intro to programming course. I am teaching this class and it seems to me that we would be much better served teaching python in the intro course, C++ for Data structures, as we do now, and Java in object oriented programming,