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On 2005-01-07, Paul Rubin http wrote:
Roman Suzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I do not like the idea of having stubs. Once I had an experience working with
CPAN (I tried to install SpamAssassin and it required some specific modules.)
Magic install
adamc [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've not experienced problems installing wxPython on Debian (unstable).
It just *works* out of the box with apt-get. Perhaps this is more of a
problem with the package maintainers?
I think the problem I encountered was that the version of WxWidgets
currently on
Terry Reedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Even though I currently only have 80 megs (about the minimum one can
You probably mean 80 gigs. You can get smaller disks, say 30 gigs, in
entry-point laptops. But for a few dozen megs I think you'd have to go
for solid-state disks, say USB keys
On 06 Jan 2005 18:46:00 -0800, Paul Rubin
http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terry Reedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Would it be possible, at least for Windows, to write a Python script
implementing a 'virtual distribution'? IE, download Python, install it,
download next package, install it,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) writes:
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really, I just want to buy a new
computer, turn it on, and have everything there. That's generally
impossible without running satanware from Redmond
The princes of insufficient light from Cupertino will
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 23:42:40 -0500, Terry Reedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Would it be possible, at least for Windows, to write a Python script
implementing a 'virtual distribution'? IE, download Python, install it,
download next package, install it, etc. -- prefereably table driven?
How
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
GUI/IDEs for Python,
I remember there was a gud interface for Python but it didn't work
pretty well. There's also IDLE which is pretty crude and flaky. I
think I'll just wait for Pypy deployment before worrying about this
situation too
Terry Reedy wrote:
Even though I currently only have 80 ... I realize that my stinginess
with disk space for more serious stuff is obsolete. A gigabyte would
cover Python + Wxpython + numarray + scipy + pygame + a lot
of other stuff.
Would it be possible, at least for Windows, to write a Python
Scott David Daniels wrote:
If you can wait, the plan for MacEnthon (Python 2.4 on Mac) looks great:
Actually, just packages for 2.3 (or 2.3.x for Tiger) as of right now.
When someone else packages up 2.4 nicely, I'll start making packages for
that, too.
On 5 Jan 2005 19:31:53 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Roth:
The bottom line is that I'm not going to be writing any
extensive pieces of Python documentation. My time
is better spent elsewhere.
Well, a couple of years ago I realized that some documentation on the
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, John Roth wrote:
I would like to contribute some documentation to Python.
I've got the time, I write quite a bit, etc. I've got fairly
strong opinions about some things that need to be documented,
(such as all the new style class descriptor stuff from 2.2)
and I have
Carlos Ribeiro wrote:
Couldn't a better document-writing interface be implemented?
Such as:
http://www.python.org/moin/Documentation
Or AMK's annotatable docs:
http://pydoc.amk.ca/frame.html
Something like that?
The docs are great, but it took me some time to find them out after
searching inside
[Daniel Bowett]
#- Contribute to where on Sourceforge??? Which domentation are
#- we talking
#- about in general?
Speaking of docs. . . I think it would help a great deal if the python.org
version-specific documentation pages used the standard documentation front page
that actually includes the
Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
I love eric3, but if you're an eclipse fan, look at enthought's
envisage IDE -- it seems to me that it has superb promise.
...
Is it available for download somewhere?
Alex is, I think, jumping the gun a bit. Envisage isn't quite ready for
Alex Martelli ha scritto:
But Alex is right; Envisage does hold a lot of promise.
The very concept of an architecture based on a spare skeleton and
copious plugins is intrinsically excellent, and I think that by now
eclipse has proven it's also practically viable for real-world powerful
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:11:22 +1000, Nick Coghlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Carlos Ribeiro wrote:
Couldn't a better document-writing interface be implemented?
Such as:
http://www.python.org/moin/Documentation
Or AMK's annotatable docs:
http://pydoc.amk.ca/frame.html
Sorry, I wasn't
Alex Martelli wrote:
Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
I love eric3, but if you're an eclipse fan, look at enthought's
envisage IDE -- it seems to me that it has superb promise.
...
Is it available for download somewhere?
Alex is, I think, jumping the gun a bit. Envisage isn't quite
On 05 Jan 2005 23:19:39 -0800, Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bengt Richter) writes:
What do you think of automated secure importing/installing from a
remote server? You know, you try to import something and it imports
a stub that was included as a
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:25:08 -0800, Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Yes, I know, it can be written by hand. But by this line of logic why
bother learning VHLL and not just stay with C?
I'm not sure what you mean by written by hand.
I mean the same way as you do mylist.sort() in Python
Iwan van der Kleyn wrote:
But I see little to no efforts from the core python team to address my
needs as listed above. They seem mainly to focus on the core attributes
and syntax of the language. Very little or no efforts are taken to
improve the infrastructure around the language.
And then I
Paul Rubin http://phr.cx@NOSPAM.invalid wrote in message
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If I have a 400 gig hard drive, I don't see why I need 99.99% of it
empty instead of 99.0% after I do my OS install.
Even though I currently only have 80 megs (about the minimum one can
currently buy), I've
Terry Reedy wrote:
Paul Rubin http://phr.cx@NOSPAM.invalid wrote in message
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If I have a 400 gig hard drive, I don't see why I need 99.99% of it
empty instead of 99.0% after I do my OS install.
Even though I currently only have 80 megs (about the minimum one can
Bulba! wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:25:08 -0800, Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I still think numarray is a good start for this. It handles more than
just numbers. And RecArray (an array that has different types in each
column, as you seem to require) can be subclassed to add these
Terry Reedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Would it be possible, at least for Windows, to write a Python script
implementing a 'virtual distribution'? IE, download Python, install it,
download next package, install it, etc. -- prefereably table driven?
I just don't understand why you'd want to
Peter Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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Terry Reedy wrote:
Would it be possible, at least for Windows, to write a Python script
implementing a 'virtual distribution'? IE, download Python, install it,
download next package, install it, etc. -- prefereably
On Fri, 6 Jan 2005, Paul Rubin wrote:
software when I buy a new computer, or at least a new hard drive. I
don't try to migrate system or configuration files. I just install
the OS distro from scratch and migrate my user files.
There are several parts to those frustrations. But you are
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, EP wrote:
Roman wrote:
Maybe OP doesn't yet fully comprehend the ways of Python universe?
snip
Don't misinterpret this response. I know it was a rambling. But
*maybe* you
have something to contribute to Python development, even good ideas
only and
no work.
.
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:19:32 -0600, Skip Montanaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terry Numarray has a record array type. If there is not one publicly
Terry available, perhaps you could write a CSV file to record-array
Terry slurper and contribute it to the Recipes site or maybe even
Ville Vainio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
To me, this seems to be the job for the Fedora maintainers, not Python
maintainers. If something essential is not in the distro the distro
maintainers have screwed up.
I can't parse that. It says two contradictory things. Sentence 2
says that if
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dunno about Fedora, I stopped using Red Hat just because they were
*not* using the standard Python distribution, and the version they
shipped was cripped in various ways.
Eh? I used Red Hat for a long while and don't remember their crippling
the Python distribution.
EP [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Python: it tastes so good it makes you hungrier.
QOTW
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Roman Suzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As for concepts, they are from Generic Programming (by Musser and
Stepanov) and I feel that Python is in position to implement them to
the fullest extent. And IMHO it will be nicer than just Java-like
interfaces or Eiffel's contract approach.
I keep
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There is nothing in Wikipedia about [Generic programming].
Oops: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_programming
This helps. But I don't see how it's different from what used to
be called polymorphism.
--
The Python advocates who claim that Python is well-documented and take
exception to when someone say it isn't. Their idea of it's
well-documented seems to be if there's parts that you think are
poorly documented, feel free to document it. What kind of nonsense
is that?
I'm not sure which
Dave Brueck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
No, not at all - I'm just trying to better understand what you mean. Words
like generic and concepts don't yet have a widely recognized, strict
definition in the context of programming. If somebody has assigned some
specific definition to them,
Paul Oops: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_programming
Paul This helps. But I don't see how it's different from what used to
Paul be called polymorphism.
I think of generic programming as polymorphism for statically typed
languages. Using the example from the Wikipedia
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Alex Martelli wrote:
Dave Brueck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
No, not at all - I'm just trying to better understand what you mean. Words
like generic and concepts don't yet have a widely recognized, strict
definition in the context of programming. If somebody has
Paul == Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Paul Ville Vainio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
To me, this seems to be the job for the Fedora maintainers, not
Python maintainers. If something essential is not in the distro
the distro maintainers have screwed up.
Paul I
Ville Vainio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Paul I can't parse that. It says two contradictory things.
Paul Sentence 2 says that if something essential is not in the
Paul (Python) distro then the (Python) distro maintainers have
Paul screwed up. Sentence 1 says it's the Fedora
Roman Suzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alex, I think you are +10 for adding interfaces into Python. Concept
is more compact word and I am sure it is not used as a name in existing
projects, unlike other words.
Actually, I want protocols -- semantics (and pragmatics), too, not just
syntax (method
Carlos Ribeiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
- IDE: Better than what? Than IDLE? Than Eclipse? Than SPE? Than Pythonwin?
I would like to seee Eric3, with some polish opensourced on Win
(which means solving the Qt licensing problem). Perhaps someone could
convince Trolltech to release a
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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alex23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's called having an opinion. Good documentation does its job, if
noone else thought it was poorly documented then to them it wasn't.
...
In short: grow up and just write the damn
Skip Montanaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Okay, then start doing the work necessary to incorporate that stuff into the
core. Get Fredrik to say okay to including his Tkinter docs, then do what
it takes to incorporate it. The fact that Fredrik can check those docs in
himself but hasn't after
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
John Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like to contribute some documentation to Python. I've got
the time, I write quite a bit, etc. I've got fairly strong opinions
about some things that need to be documented, (such as all the new
style class descriptor stuff
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 07:37:25 -0600, Skip Montanaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Terry Numarray has a record array type. If there is not one publicly
Terry available, perhaps you could write a CSV file to record-array
Terry slurper and contribute it to the Recipes site or maybe even the
Title: RE: Python evolution: Unease
[John Roth]
#- I would like to contribute some documentation to Python.
#- I've got the time, I write quite a bit, etc. I've got fairly
#- strong opinions about some things that need to be documented,
#- (such as all the new style class descriptor stuff
Batista, Facundo wrote:
[John Roth]
#- I would like to contribute some documentation to Python.
#- I've got the time, I write quite a bit, etc. I've got fairly
#- strong opinions about some things that need to be documented,
#- (such as all the new style class descriptor stuff from 2.2)
#- and I
Title: RE: Python evolution: Unease
[Daniel Bowett]
#- Contribute to where on Sourceforge??? Which domentation are
#- we talking
#- about in general?
Suppose you're reading Python documentation. Don't know, for example, os.remove(). There you find that a particular parragraph
Batista, Facundo wrote:
[Daniel Bowett]
#- Contribute to where on Sourceforge??? Which domentation are
#- we talking
#- about in general?
Suppose you're reading Python documentation. Don't know, for example,
os.remove(). There you find that a particular parragraph is difficult
to understand. You
Title: RE: Python evolution: Unease
[Daniel Bowett]
#- Thanks, typically how long does it take for any documentation to be
#- considered and implemented?
That depends. If you know that some module is supported by someone in particular, you can asign the bug to him, so it should
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Daniel Bowett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, typically how long does it take for any documentation to be
considered and implemented?
It varies. (I could write a much longer response, but it would boil
down to the same thing. ;-)
--
Aahz ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
John Roth wrote:
I've been reading this thread and quietly congratulating myself
on staying out of it, but this statement takes the cake.
Honestly, I feel the same way about statements of your's like this:
The bottom line is that I'm not going to be writing any
extensive pieces of Python
John Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I would like to contribute some documentation to Python.
I've got the time, I write quite a bit, etc. I've got fairly
strong opinions about some things that need to be documented,
(such as all the new style class descriptor
Daniel Bowett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks, typically how long does it take for any documentation to be
considered and implemented?
Right now, rough guess, based on my haphazard collection of knowledge and
experience, I would anticipate 1 to 60 days for up
Bulba! wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 07:37:25 -0600, Skip Montanaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've never needed numeric stuff either. I just need to do things like:
. table.sort(column_name) # that obviously would sort rows of table
by the values of column column_name
[snip for brevity]
Now suppose a
On 05 Jan 2005 07:18:25 -0800, Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ville Vainio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Paul I can't parse that. It says two contradictory things.
Paul Sentence 2 says that if something essential is not in the
Paul (Python) distro then the (Python) distro
John Roth:
The bottom line is that I'm not going to be writing any
extensive pieces of Python documentation. My time
is better spent elsewhere.
Well, a couple of years ago I realized that some documentation on the
MRO
was missing. I wrote a document in reST, posted here, and Guido put it
on
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:15:29 +0300, Roman Suzi wrote:
As for concepts, they are from Generic Programming (by Musser and
Stepanov) and I feel that Python is in position to implement them to the
fullest extent. And IMHO it will be nicer than just Java-like interfaces
or Eiffel's contract
Well, I'm not a seasoned programmer like you but I have to say Python
is the singlebest language I've worked with to date. In a matter of
weeks I learned to do things that took me months in other languages and
even found the process enjoyable.
Maybe you are right. If so, couldn't Python be forked
flamesrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Maybe you are right. If so, couldn't Python be forked into something
like you describe, while still remaining compatible at the core? (if
anyones willing)
It's not an issue with the Python core (language); I read that post as
mostly bemoaning the poor state
Maybe a PSF grant would help? I guess this has been considered ...
Michele Simionato
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Iwan van der Kleyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
to be determine the way foreward for Python: more features, increased
complexity, less dynamism. Lots of syntax crud, without addressing the
As a student of human nature, I'm _really_ curious as to how one could
possibly read the key document:
Also, you keep talking about the core python team on the basis, it
would appear, of reading one document by Guido. Have you bothered doing
a MINIMUM of homework, such as, looking at
http://www.amk.ca/diary/archives/cat_python.html
Well, you being a member of that core team (meaning nog an
Iwan == Iwan van der Kleyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Iwan And then I read the following sentence by Van Rossum:
Iwan In order to make type inferencing a little more useful, I'd
Iwan like to restrict certain forms of extreme dynamic behavior
Iwan in Python
Iwan In the end,
Ville Vainio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Also, Python is not a monolithic entity. Guido certainly isn't going
to write a better IDE for Python, so the time used on language
features isn't removed from improving the infrastructure around the
language.
There aren't THAT many people working on
Title: RE: Python evolution: Unease
[Iwan van der Kleyn]
#- need: a better standard ide, an integrated db interface with
#- a proper
#- set of db drivers (!!), a better debugger, a standard widget/windows
#- toolkit, something akin to a standard for web programming, better
Paul == Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Paul Ville Vainio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Also, Python is not a monolithic entity. Guido certainly isn't
going to write a better IDE for Python, so the time used on
language features isn't removed from improving the
Ville Vainio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But the people working on wxPython, pygtk, pyqt, pydev, whatever, are
largely not the same guys that commit stuff to CPython CVS.
Right, but for that reason, they don't count as being working on
Python.
Type declarations are a feature that might benefit
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Batista, Facundo wrote:
Maybe OP doesn't yet fully comprehend the ways of Python universe?
As for his claims, I am quite surprised that Python lacks
something in the docs.
Concerning better hierarchy in the standard library, it is interesting
that there are some movements in
Iwan van der Kleyn wrote:
And I do sense (reading planet python/this newsgroup) a mindset or at
least a tendency by the people who really matter in these discussion to
keep on adding features to the syntax; to add structure to Python. My
personal preference would be to leave the language alone
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe a PSF grant would help? I guess this has been considered ...
The first three PSF grants were all in some way not directly related to
changing the core language. One was for a library, one for improving
Jython, and one for improving
Roman Suzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As for his claims, I am quite surprised that Python lacks
something in the docs.
Python is lacking plenty in the docs. Care to figure out from the
docs how tkinter works? That's not explained anywhere at all, except
in some off-site resources and in some
Aahz:
The first three PSF grants were all in some way not directly related
to
changing the core language. One was for a library, one for improving
Jython, and one for improving docs. Giving the PSF more money
increases
the chances for additional work.
Here is the link you forgot to post ;-)
Paul Care to figure out from the docs how tkinter works? That's not
Paul explained anywhere at all, except in some off-site resources and
Paul in some printed books. Even some language features like class
Paul methods and slots are explained only in PEP's and release notes,
Ville Vainio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What form of extreme dynamic behaviour have you been using lately?
One real-world example: in my new coverage analysis tool (to be
released any month now), I need to trace threads without changing any
code. To do so, I redefine the thread.start_new_thread()
Istvan Albert wrote:
But if python
were to become overly complicated I'll find something else.
Three years ago I have not not used python at all, now I'm
using it for everything.
You're in luck, python 2.4 won't be significantly changing anytime soon.
PS. why can't decorators solve this optional
Iwan van der Kleyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
And I do sense (reading planet python/this newsgroup) a mindset or at
least a tendency by the people who really matter in these discussion to
keep on adding features to the syntax; to add structure to Python. My
personal preference would be to
Doug Holton wrote:
application is so important that I expect Python 3000 will have
optional type declarations integrated into the argument list.
I think that *optional* part of the optional type declaration
is a myth.
It may be optional in the sense that the language will
accept missing
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:39:10 -0300, Batista, Facundo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
#- need: a better standard ide, an integrated db interface with
#- a proper
#- set of db drivers (!!), a better debugger, a standard widget/windows
#- toolkit, something akin to a standard for web programming,
Viile writes -
Type declarations are a feature that might benefit IronPython and
Jython more than they would CPython.
How much is this part of Guido's decisionmaking process?
Guido is , IMO, very much a strategist, as well as a language designer.
That's good, I think.
However it seems to me
Title: RE: Python evolution: Unease
[Skip Montanaro]
#- This being the Internet and all, it's not clear that
#- referencing external
#- documentation is somehow worse than incorporating it
#- directly into the
#- distribution.
The problem is Internet access.
For example, once I put
Istvan Albert wrote:
Doug Holton wrote:
application is so important that I expect Python 3000 will have
optional type declarations integrated into the argument list.
I think that *optional* part of the optional type declaration
is a myth.
It may be optional in the sense that the language will
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:15:54 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli)
wrote:
Also, you keep talking about the core python team on the basis, it
would appear, of reading one document by Guido. Have you bothered doing
a MINIMUM of homework, such as, looking at
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:18:48 -0200, Carlos Ribeiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's take one by one:
I'll take only a few ;-)
- IDE: Better than what? Than IDLE? Than Eclipse? Than SPE? Than Pythonwin?
I would like to seee Eric3, with some polish opensourced on Win
(which means solving the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Viile writes -
Type declarations are a feature that might benefit IronPython and
Jython more than they would CPython.
How much is this part of Guido's decisionmaking process?
One major reason to allow optional static typing is to aid specializing
compilers. A language
Istvan Albert wrote:
Doug Holton wrote:
application is so important that I expect Python 3000 will have
optional type declarations integrated into the argument list.
I think that *optional* part of the optional type declaration
is a myth.
It may be optional in the sense that the language will
Roman Suzi wrote:
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Dave Brueck wrote:
It may be optional in the sense that the language will
accept missing declarations but as soon as the feature
is available it will become mandatory to use it
(peer pressure, workplace practices).
What about generic programming coming into
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Dave Brueck wrote:
Roman Suzi wrote:
It may be optional in the sense that the language will
accept missing declarations but as soon as the feature
is available it will become mandatory to use it
(peer pressure, workplace practices).
What about generic programming coming
Bulba! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
E.g. right now I would kill for a standard, built-in matrix
type
The array types of Numerical Python (NumPy) and now Numarray are, defacto,
Python's standard 1 to n dimensional array types. Once installed, they are
as builtin as anything else.
Roman Suzi wrote:
The term generic programming is too... er... generic. :)
Nope. It is not generic. It has it's definition made by the co-author
of STL - A.Stepanov. And the Boost C++ library (many of us know it as
Boost Python) standardise on the approach, AFAIK.
As you know, Python
already
Hi Roman,
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 00:44 +0300, Roman Suzi wrote:
Python could have honest support of concepts. Everything else will be
available with them.
That is the whole point that Python supports GP. It is only one step
to do concepts right (and GvR it seems want type-checking into
Roman Suzi wrote:
The term generic programming is too... er... generic. :)
Nope. It is not generic. It has it's definition made by the co-author
of STL - A.Stepanov. And the Boost C++ library (many of us know it as
Boost Python) standardise on the approach, AFAIK.
Ok, too broad then; Python
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Dave Brueck wrote:
Roman Suzi wrote:
The term generic programming is too... er... generic. :)
Nope. It is not generic. It has it's definition made by the co-author
of STL - A.Stepanov. And the Boost C++ library (many of us know it as
Boost Python) standardise on the
Terry Reedy wrote:
Bulba! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
E.g. right now I would kill for a standard, built-in matrix
type
The array types of Numerical Python (NumPy) and now Numarray are, defacto,
Python's standard 1 to n dimensional array types. Once installed, they are
as builtin as
Terry Numarray has a record array type. If there is not one publicly
Terry available, perhaps you could write a CSV file to record-array
Terry slurper and contribute it to the Recipes site or maybe even the
Terry CSV module.
-1 on putting such a beast into the CSV module,
Skip Montanaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Start writing (or reorganizing). Folks, this is open source. I'm
sure by the traffic on the list most people here know how to write.
Irrelevant, the issue isn't what docs can be written if someone
wants to do it, it's what docs are actually already
Paul Skip Montanaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Start writing (or reorganizing). Folks, this is open source. I'm
sure by the traffic on the list most people here know how to write.
Paul Irrelevant, the issue isn't what docs can be written if someone
Paul wants to do it,
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:12:04 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote:
Irrelevant, the issue isn't what docs can be written if someone wants to
do it, it's what docs are actually already there
I just see various other free software projects as
trying to live up to higher standards and I think Python
Jeremy Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So, nobody should have to write the docs because they should already be
there, but somebody should have to write the docs?
You need to think more clearly about the pronouns you are slinging around.
Who is this they that should write the docs?
The
Paul Rubin wrote:
Jeremy Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So, nobody should have to write the docs because they should already be
there, but somebody should have to write the docs?
You need to think more clearly about the pronouns you are slinging around.
Who is this they that should write the
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