Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-09 Thread Francesc
[I've just seen this thread. Although it might be a bit late, let me state a couple of precisions] On 6 Nov, 03:09, "D.Hering" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 5, 10:29 am, Maarten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As forpytables: it is the most elegant programming interface for HDF > > on any

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-06 Thread Jens
> > Jens, > > You might be interested in this > bookhttp://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596529321/index.html > which is new, I just ordered my copy. From the contents shown online, > it has lot of applicability to data mining, using Python, although it > its primary topic is data mining the web, it

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-06 Thread UrsusMaximus
On Nov 6, 7:10 am, Aaron Watters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 6, 4:19 am, "Hendrik van Rooyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "D.Hering" wrote: > > > > [1] Anything/everything that is physical/virtual, or can be conceived > > > is hierarchical... if the system itself is not random/chaotic

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-06 Thread Aaron Watters
On Nov 6, 4:19 am, "Hendrik van Rooyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "D.Hering" wrote: > > > [1] Anything/everything that is physical/virtual, or can be conceived > > is hierarchical... if the system itself is not random/chaotic. Thats a > > lovely revelation I've had... EVERYTHING is hierarchical

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-06 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen
"D.Hering" wrote: > > [1] Anything/everything that is physical/virtual, or can be conceived > is hierarchical... if the system itself is not random/chaotic. Thats a > lovely revelation I've had... EVERYTHING is hierarchical. If it has > context it has hierarchy. Do I hear Echoes of What Was Said

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-05 Thread D.Hering
On Nov 5, 10:29 am, Maarten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 5, 1:51 pm, Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On 5 Nov., 04:42, "D.Hering" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Nov 3, 9:02 pm, Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I then leaned C and then C++. I am now coming home to Pyth

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-05 Thread Paul Rudin
Maarten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > "Premature optimization is the root of all evil", to quote a famous > person. And he's right, as most people working larger codes will > confirm. > But note that it's "premature optimization...", not "optimization..." :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-05 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Aaron Watters a écrit : > On Nov 4, 4:36 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>How good is the integration with MySQL in Python? >> >>Pretty good - but I wouldn't call MySQL a serious RDBMS. > > > I would disagree with this, for this particular case. > I think it's probably b

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-05 Thread Aaron Watters
On Nov 4, 4:36 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > How good is the integration with MySQL in Python? > > Pretty good - but I wouldn't call MySQL a serious RDBMS. I would disagree with this, for this particular case. I think it's probably better than most other rdbms's for apps

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-05 Thread Jens
On 5 Nov., 16:29, Maarten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As for pytables: it is the most elegant programming interface for HDF > on any platform that I've encountered so far. Most other platforms > stay close the HDF5 library C-interface, which is low-level, and quite > complex. PyTables was written

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-05 Thread Robert Kern
Jens wrote: > On 5 Nov., 16:29, Maarten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Nov 5, 1:51 pm, Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> "Premature optimization is the root of all evil", to quote a famous >> person. And he's right, as most people working larger codes will >> confirm. > > I guess I'll have t

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-05 Thread Jens
On 5 Nov., 16:29, Maarten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 5, 1:51 pm, Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Premature optimization is the root of all evil", to quote a famous > person. And he's right, as most people working larger codes will > confirm. I guess I'll have to agree with that. Still

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-05 Thread Maarten
On Nov 5, 1:51 pm, Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5 Nov., 04:42, "D.Hering" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 3, 9:02 pm, Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I then leaned C and then C++. I am now coming home to Python realizing > > after my self-eduction, that programming in Python i

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-05 Thread Aaron Watters
On Nov 3, 9:02 pm, Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How good is the integration with MySQL in Python? I think it's very good. However, I'm not sure how good SQL really is for data mining, depending on what you mean by that. Please have a look at nucular for this kind of thing -- I've advertised

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-05 Thread Jens
On 5 Nov., 04:42, "D.Hering" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 3, 9:02 pm, Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I'm starting a project indatamining, and I'm considering Python and > > Java as possible platforms. > > > I'm conserned by performance. Most benchmarks report that Java is > > abou

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-05 Thread Greg Lindstrom
> -- Forwarded message -- > From: "D.Hering" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:42:16 -0800 > Subject: Re: Python good for data mining? > On Nov 3, 9:02 pm, Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-04 Thread D.Hering
On Nov 3, 9:02 pm, Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm starting a project indatamining, and I'm considering Python and > Java as possible platforms. > > I'm conserned by performance. Most benchmarks report that Java is > about 10-15 times faster than Python, and my own experiments confirms > this

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-04 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Jens a écrit : > I'm starting a project in data mining, and I'm considering Python and > Java as possible platforms. > > I'm conserned by performance. Most benchmarks report that Java is > about 10-15 times faster than Python, Benchmarking is difficult, and most benchmarks are easily 'oriented'.

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-04 Thread paul
Jens schrieb: > What about user interfaces? How easy is it to use Tkinter for > developing a user interface without an IDE? And with an IDE? (which > IDE?) Tkinter is easy but looks ugly (yeah folks, I know it doesn't matter in you mission critical flight control system). Apart from ActiveStates

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-04 Thread Cameron Walsh
Jens wrote: > > Thanks a lot! I'm not sure I completely understand your description of > how to integrate Python with, say PHP. Could you please give a small > example? I have no experience with Python web development using CGI. > How easy is it compared to web development in PHP? > > I still hav

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-04 Thread Jens
> > What if I were to use my Python libraries with a web site written in > > PHP, Perl or Java - how do I integrate with Python? > > Possibly the simplest way would be python .cgi files. The cgi and cgitb > modules allow form data to be read fairly easily. Cookies are also > fairly simple. For a

Re: Python good for data mining?

2007-11-03 Thread Cameron Walsh
Jens wrote: > I'm starting a project in data mining, and I'm considering Python and > Java as possible platforms. > > I'm concerned by performance. Most benchmarks report that Java is > about 10-15 times faster than Python, and my own experiments confirms > this. I could imagine this to become a p

Python good for data mining?

2007-11-03 Thread Jens
I'm starting a project in data mining, and I'm considering Python and Java as possible platforms. I'm conserned by performance. Most benchmarks report that Java is about 10-15 times faster than Python, and my own experiments confirms this. I could imagine this to become a problem for very large da