On 09/22/10 02:44, Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net writes:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:59:27 +0200
de...@web.de (Diez B. Roggisch) wrote:
The problems explained are simply outdated and crippled python
versions.
And to me, a python version installed that has not the
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:23:08 +1200, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message
2ab95324-4394-4510-b953-3c8555b0a...@q9g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, Ant
wrote:
Still, no Python 3 unless I upgrade to Fedora 13, and upgrading an OS
in order to get the latest version of one package is a bit much!
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:54:55 -0700, Ant wrote:
Yes you are right - I've checked on my home machine, and it is indeed
2.6. Still, no Python 3 unless I upgrade to Fedora 13, and upgrading an
OS in order to get the latest version of one package is a bit much!
Or you could install from source,
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Steven D'Aprano
st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:54:55 -0700, Ant wrote:
Yes you are right - I've checked on my home machine, and it is indeed
2.6. Still, no Python 3 unless I upgrade to Fedora 13, and upgrading an
OS in order
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:35:38 +0900, David Cournapeau wrote:
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Steven D'Aprano
st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:54:55 -0700, Ant wrote:
Yes you are right - I've checked on my home machine, and it is indeed
2.6. Still, no Python
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Steven D'Aprano
st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au wrote:
Typically, if your want to install say
matplotlib with pygtk with a custom built python, you are in for a fun
ride because you have to rebuild everything.
That's not what I consider a typical case.
In message
2ab95324-4394-4510-b953-3c8555b0a...@q9g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, Ant
wrote:
Still, no Python 3 unless I upgrade to Fedora 13, and upgrading
an OS in order to get the latest version of one package is a bit much!
You’re using Fedora, a distro that pretty much demands you upgrade at
In message 87zkvbytnk@web.de, Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
Of course, in a ideal world, distutils would hook into the distros
dependency system + simply say please install python-dev first.
But I'm not convinced that putting the weight here on the shoulders of
the python-communtiy to deal
In message mailman.975.1285085609.29448.python-l...@python.org, Antoine
Pitrou wrote:
comp.lang.python doesn't handle Linux packaging [issues] ...
Why not? We regularly seem to was^H^H^Hspend a lot of time with Windows-
specific packaging problems, installation problems and configuration
On 9/21/2010 11:42 AM, Ned Deily wrote:
In article87zkvbytnk@web.de, de...@web.de (Diez B. Roggisch)
wrote:
The point is that the distro doesn't care about the python eco
system. Which is what I care about, and a lot of people who want to ship
software.
I don't think that is totally
Hi all,
I've just seen this: http://sheddingbikes.com/posts/1285063820.html
Whatever you think of Zed Shaw (author of the Mongrel Ruby server and
relatively recent Python convert), he has a very good point in this. I
run Fedora 12 on my home computers, and find it far too much hassle to
try to
Ant wrote:
I've just seen this: http://sheddingbikes.com/posts/1285063820.html
Whatever you think of Zed Shaw (author of the Mongrel Ruby server and
relatively recent Python convert), he has a very good point in this. I
run Fedora 12 on my home computers, and find it far too much hassle to
On Sep 21, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Ant wrote:
Hi all,
I've just seen this: http://sheddingbikes.com/posts/1285063820.html
Whatever you think of Zed Shaw (author of the Mongrel Ruby server and
relatively recent Python convert), he has a very good point in this. I
run Fedora 12 on my home
On Sep 21, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Ant wrote:
Hi all,
I've just seen this: http://sheddingbikes.com/posts/1285063820.html
Whatever you think of Zed Shaw (author of the Mongrel Ruby server and
relatively recent Python convert), he has a very good point in this. I
run Fedora 12 on my home
Ant ant...@gmail.com writes:
Hi all,
I've just seen this: http://sheddingbikes.com/posts/1285063820.html
Whatever you think of Zed Shaw (author of the Mongrel Ruby server and
relatively recent Python convert), he has a very good point in this. I
run Fedora 12 on my home computers, and find
On Sep 21, 2:29 pm, Ant ant...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I've just seen this:http://sheddingbikes.com/posts/1285063820.html
Whatever you think of Zed Shaw (author of the Mongrel Ruby server and
relatively recent Python convert), he has a very good point in this. I
run Fedora 12 on my home
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:23:42 +0200
de...@web.de (Diez B. Roggisch) wrote:
So, in summary, I think if anything, Python should liberate itself from
the reigns of distro package management, and fix whatever issues there
are with setuptools (or distutils or pip or distribute or whatever the
cool
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Diez B. Roggisch de...@web.de wrote:
Ant ant...@gmail.com writes:
Hi all,
I've just seen this: http://sheddingbikes.com/posts/1285063820.html
Whatever you think of Zed Shaw (author of the Mongrel Ruby server and
relatively recent Python convert), he has a
Ant wrote:
Hi all,
I've just seen this: http://sheddingbikes.com/posts/1285063820.html
Whatever you think of Zed Shaw (author of the Mongrel Ruby server and
relatively recent Python convert), he has a very good point in this. I
run Fedora 12 on my home computers, and find it far too much
David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Diez B. Roggisch de...@web.de wrote:
Ant ant...@gmail.com writes:
Hi all,
I've just seen this: http://sheddingbikes.com/posts/1285063820.html
Whatever you think of Zed Shaw (author of the Mongrel Ruby server and
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:59:27 +0200
de...@web.de (Diez B. Roggisch) wrote:
The problems explained are simply outdated and crippled python
versions.
And to me, a python version installed that has not the
distutils module is *crippled*. You can rationalize that as much as you
want through
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Diez B. Roggisch de...@web.de wrote:
David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Diez B. Roggisch de...@web.de wrote:
Ant ant...@gmail.com writes:
Hi all,
I've just seen this: http://sheddingbikes.com/posts/1285063820.html
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net writes:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:59:27 +0200
de...@web.de (Diez B. Roggisch) wrote:
The problems explained are simply outdated and crippled python
versions.
And to me, a python version installed that has not the
distutils module is *crippled*. You can
David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com writes:
I don't deny them their experience. Do you deny the experience of other
people with *other* needs? As I already said: I don't propose to ditch
the package management. I'm all fine with a distro that carefully
selects it's packages and dependencies.
On 9/21/2010 5:29 AM Ant said...
Is there a solution to this that anyone knows of? Has Zed jumped to
conclusions? Have I?
I'd say the error was in selecting something other that the lowest
common subset of python functions when designing and writing a python
version dependent Mongrel2.
In article 87zkvbytnk@web.de, de...@web.de (Diez B. Roggisch)
wrote:
The point is that the distro doesn't care about the python eco
system. Which is what I care about, and a lot of people who want to ship
software.
I don't think that is totally accurate or fair. There is regular
On Sep 21, 2:04 pm, Philip Semanchuk phi...@semanchuk.com wrote:
On Sep 21, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Ant wrote:
Don't know about Python 3 on Fedora (I use a Mac), but distrowatch.org
reports that Fedora has been using Python = 2.6 since Fedora 11 which was
released in June of 2009.
Yes you are
Ned Deily n...@acm.org writes:
In article 87zkvbytnk@web.de, de...@web.de (Diez B. Roggisch)
wrote:
The point is that the distro doesn't care about the python eco
system. Which is what I care about, and a lot of people who want to ship
software.
I don't think that is totally accurate
In article m28w2uvgal@web.de, de...@web.de (Diez B. Roggisch)
wrote:
Ned Deily n...@acm.org writes:
In article 87zkvbytnk@web.de, de...@web.de (Diez B. Roggisch)
wrote:
The point is that the distro doesn't care about the python eco
system. Which is what I care about, and a lot
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