Python list vs google group

I'm suspecting that posting to python google groups (this site) gets more responses than mailing to the python list. Am I correct? Also, contrary to what I read on the python list information sheet, what shows up in this forum does not match what comes into my inbox. I started a post here and th

Re: Python list vs google group

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 08:28:38 -0700, T Berger wrote: > I'm suspecting that posting to python google groups (this site) gets > more responses than mailing to the python list. Am I correct? Also, > contrary to what I read on the python list information sheet, what shows > up in this forum does not ma

Re: Python list vs google group

On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:31:47 AM UTC-4, Alister wrote: > it certainly seems to be the source of most SPAM > as such some users of this list/newsgroup call it what you like block all > posts from google groups But you don't think you get more replies to a question posted here than emailed

Re: Python list vs google group

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 1:47 AM, T Berger wrote: > On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:31:47 AM UTC-4, Alister wrote: > >> it certainly seems to be the source of most SPAM >> as such some users of this list/newsgroup call it what you like block all >> posts from google groups > > But you don't think yo

Re: Python list vs google group

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, T Berger wrote: I'm suspecting that posting to python google groups (this site) gets more responses than mailing to the python list. Am I correct? Also, contrary to what I read on the python list information sheet, what shows up in this forum does not match what comes into m

Re: Python list vs google group

On 15/06/18 16:47, T Berger wrote: On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:31:47 AM UTC-4, Alister wrote: it certainly seems to be the source of most SPAM as such some users of this list/newsgroup call it what you like block all posts from google groups But you don't think you get more replies to a qu

Re: Python list vs google group

On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:14:30 PM UTC-4, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 15/06/18 16:47, T Berger wrote: > > On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:31:47 AM UTC-4, Alister wrote: > > > >> it certainly seems to be the source of most SPAM > >> as such some users of this list/newsgroup call it what you like

Re: Python list vs google group

On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:55:59 AM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote: > Perhaps quantity is not the important thing here. It is the important thing. I'm stuck with a problem and still waiting for replies to my email. I've decided to repost my problem here, so we'll see whether my hypothesis holds

Re: Python list vs google group

On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:14:30 PM UTC-4, Mark Lawrence wrote: > For the third and final time, just get a (semi-)decent email client/news > reader/whatever it's called, point it at news.gmane.org and read this > forum, hundreds of other python forums and thousands of other technical > foru

Re: Python list vs google group

I recently posted two questions, but never got any replies. I am still wondering if it was ever posted, or maybe the question was too trivial? I think someone would have at least shouted if it was too trivial or off-topic, right? On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 15/06

Re: Python list vs google group

Hi Rich, Please define YMMV, MUA. Thanks, Tamara -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python list vs google group

On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:32:17 PM UTC-4, T Berger wrote: > On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:55:59 AM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote: > > Perhaps quantity is not the important thing here. > > It is the important thing. I'm stuck with a problem and still waiting for > replies to my email. I've dec

Re: Python list vs google group

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, T Berger wrote: If anyone wants to take a stab at my problem, its subject line is "Flask Failure." Tamara, I saw that earlier this morning -- on the mail list. As I know nothing about flask I deleted it without reading. Rich -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: Python list vs google group

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, T Berger wrote: To do this, I will have to research what you mean by "a (semi-)decent email client/news reader," and "point it at news.gmane.org." I'm a little unused to web-related lingo. Then I'll have to root around in gmane.org to see how it works. This is not to say tha

Re: Python list vs google group

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 12:49 PM T Berger wrote: > On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:32:17 PM UTC-4, T Berger wrote: > > On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:55:59 AM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > Perhaps quantity is not the important thing here. > > > > It is the important thing. I'm stuck with a pr

Re: Python list vs google group

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, C W wrote: I think someone would have at least shouted if it was too trivial or off-topic, right? Nope. Most of us do not reply if we have insufficient knowledge to offer a usable response. Saves bandwidth and electrons. When you get no replies it usually indicates no on

Re: Python list vs google group

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, T Berger wrote: Please define YMMV, MUA. Tamara, Your Milage May Vary. Here's a list when you have the time and inclination: . Best regards, Rich -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python list vs google group

On 2018-06-15 17:40, T Berger wrote: Hi Rich, Please define YMMV, MUA. YMMVYour Mileage May Vary MUA Mail User Agent (email program) -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python list vs google group

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, T Berger wrote: Please define YMMV, MUA. Oh, ... MUA == Mail User Agent. This is the client we use to read and write e-mail messages. Other mail-related abbreviations are MTA (Mail Transfer Agent, used to sort incoming messages to subject-related files), MTA (Mail Transp

Re: Python list vs google group

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:14 PM Rich Shepard wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, T Berger wrote: > > > Please define YMMV, MUA. > >Oh, ... MUA == Mail User Agent. I thought it was Made Up Acronym > > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python list vs google group

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Larry Martell wrote: Oh, ... MUA == Mail User Agent. I thought it was Made Up Acronym Larry, Could be; depends on the context. Rich -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python list vs google group

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Larry Martell wrote: > >>>Oh, ... MUA == Mail User Agent. >> >> I thought it was Made Up Acronym > > > Larry, > > Could be; depends on the context. My favorite acronym of all time is TWAIN -- https://mail.python.or

Re: Python list vs google group

On 06/15/2018 11:44 AM, Larry Martell wrote: On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Larry Martell wrote: Oh, ... MUA == Mail User Agent. I thought it was Made Up Acronym Larry, Could be; depends on the context. My favorite acronym of all time

Re: Python list vs google group

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Rob Gaddi wrote: > On 06/15/2018 11:44 AM, Larry Martell wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Rich Shepard >> wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Larry Martell wrote: >>> > Oh, ... MUA == Mail User Agent. I thought it was Made Up Ac

Re: Python list vs google group

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Rob Gaddi wrote: > On 06/15/2018 11:44 AM, Larry Martell wrote: >> >> My favorite acronym of all time is TWAIN >> > > Really? I always thought it didn't scan. > Having spent way WAY too many hours trying to turn documents into images (and text), I very much appre

Re: Python list vs google group

On 06/15/2018 05:00 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Rob Gaddi wrote: On 06/15/2018 11:44 AM, Larry Martell wrote: My favorite acronym of all time is TWAIN Really? I always thought it didn't scan. Having spent way WAY too many hours trying to turn documents int

Re: Python list vs google group

Rich Shepard wrote: Most of us do not reply if we have insufficient knowledge to offer a usable response. Saves bandwidth and electrons. Also avoids a lot of noise. Imagine if everyone who doesn't know the answer to a question posted "I don't know" as a response. It would drown out all the usef

Re: Python list vs google group

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Jim Lee wrote: > > > On 06/15/2018 05:00 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Rob Gaddi >> wrote: >>> >>> On 06/15/2018 11:44 AM, Larry Martell wrote: My favorite acronym of all time is TWAIN >>> Really? I always though

Re: Python list vs google group

On 6/15/18 9:00 PM, Jim Lee wrote: > > > On 06/15/2018 05:00 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Rob Gaddi >> wrote: >>> On 06/15/2018 11:44 AM, Larry Martell wrote: My favorite acronym of all time is TWAIN >>> Really?  I always thought it didn't scan. >>> >> Ha

Re: Python list vs google group

On 06/15/2018 09:28 AM, T Berger wrote: > I'm suspecting that posting to python google groups (this site) gets > more responses than mailing to the python list. Am I correct? Also, > contrary to what I read on the python list information sheet, what > shows up in this forum does not match what come

Re: Python list vs google group

On 06/15/2018 07:08 PM, Richard Damon wrote: On 6/15/18 9:00 PM, Jim Lee wrote: On 06/15/2018 05:00 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Rob Gaddi wrote: On 06/15/2018 11:44 AM, Larry Martell wrote: My favorite acronym of all time is TWAIN Really?  I always thought

Re: Python list vs google group

Jim Lee wrote: It was so long ago that I forgot some of the details, but it boiled down to the TWAIN driver pushing the SCSI bus out of spec. Clearly you didn't sacrifice enough goats! https://odetocode.com/blogs/scott/archive/2004/09/22/scsi-is-not-magic.aspx -- Greg -- https://mail.python.

Re: Python list vs google group

On 6/15/18 11:07 PM, Jim Lee wrote: > > > On 06/15/2018 07:08 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 6/15/18 9:00 PM, Jim Lee wrote: >>> >>> On 06/15/2018 05:00 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Rob Gaddi wrote: > On 06/15/2018 11:44 AM, Larry Martell wrote: >>

Re: Python list vs google group

On 06/16/2018 08:36 AM, Richard Damon wrote: On 6/15/18 11:07 PM, Jim Lee wrote: [snip] I once had a Mustek color scanner that came with a TWAIN driver.  If the room temperature was above 80 degrees F, it would scan in color - otherwise, only black & white.  I was *sure* it was a hardware pro

Re: Python list vs google group

On Saturday 16 June 2018 12:31:28 Jim Lee wrote: > On 06/16/2018 08:36 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > > On 6/15/18 11:07 PM, Jim Lee wrote: > >>> [snip] > >>> > I once had a Mustek color scanner that came with a TWAIN driver.  > If the room temperature was above 80 degrees F, it would scan i

Re: Python list vs google group

On 15/06/2018 17:33, T Berger wrote: On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:14:30 PM UTC-4, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 15/06/18 16:47, T Berger wrote: On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:31:47 AM UTC-4, Alister wrote: it certainly seems to be the source of most SPAM as such some users of this list/newsgroup

Re: Python list vs google group

On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 9:14:13 PM UTC-5, Richard Damon wrote: > if the Windows driver broke some specification but still sort > of worked [...] ...that's when the engineers in the Redmond, WA area know it's time to package and ship the product! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/py

Re: Python list vs google group

On 06/16/2018 12:38 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 9:14:13 PM UTC-5, Richard Damon wrote: if the Windows driver broke some specification but still sort of worked [...] ...that's when the engineers in the Redmond, WA area know it's time to package and ship the product!

Re: Python list vs google group

On Friday 15 June 2018 23:52:12 Gregory Ewing wrote: > Jim Lee wrote: > > It was so long ago that I forgot some of the > > details, but it boiled down to the TWAIN driver pushing the SCSI bus > > out of spec. > > Clearly you didn't sacrifice enough goats! > > https://odetocode.com/blogs/scott/arch

Re: Python list vs google group

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 09:32:05 -0700, T Berger wrote: > On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:55:59 AM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote: >> Perhaps quantity is not the important thing here. > > It is the important thing. I'm stuck with a problem and still waiting > for replies to my email. I've decided to repo

Re: Python list vs google group

Gene Heskett wrote: > This biggest single thing wrong with any of those old scsi interfaces is > the bus's 5 volt isolation diode, the designer speced a shotkey(sp) > diode, and some damned bean counter saw the price diff and changed it to Is this a case of

Re: Python list vs google group

On Monday 18 June 2018 09:16:10 Peter Otten wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > This biggest single thing wrong with any of those old scsi > > interfaces is the bus's 5 volt isolation diode, the designer speced > > a shotkey(sp) diode, and some damned bean counter saw the price diff > > and changed i

Re: Python list vs google group

Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> writes: > Gene Heskett wrote: > >> This biggest single thing wrong with any of those old scsi interfaces is >> the bus's 5 volt isolation diode, the designer speced a shotkey(sp) >> diode, and some damned bean counter saw the price diff and changed it to > > Is this

Re: Python list vs google group

On 2018-06-18, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> writes: > >> Gene Heskett wrote: >> >>> This biggest single thing wrong with any of those old scsi interfaces is >>> the bus's 5 volt isolation diode, the designer speced a shotkey(sp) >>> diode, and some damned bean counter saw t

Re: Python list vs google group

On Monday 18 June 2018 11:45:45 Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> writes: > > Gene Heskett wrote: > >> This biggest single thing wrong with any of those old scsi > >> interfaces is the bus's 5 volt isolation diode, the designer speced > >> a shotkey(sp) diode, and some damned be

Scanner freakishness [was Re: Python list vs google group]

On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:54:15 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Jim Lee wrote: >> I once had a Mustek color scanner that came with a TWAIN driver. If >> the room temperature was above 80 degrees F, it would scan in color - >> otherwise, only black & white. I was *

Technical altitude, was Re: Python list vs google group

Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 18 June 2018 09:16:10 Peter Otten wrote: > >> Gene Heskett wrote: >> > This biggest single thing wrong with any of those old scsi >> > interfaces is the bus's 5 volt isolation diode, the designer speced >> > a shotkey(sp) diode, and some damned bean counter saw the

Folk etymology, was Re: Python list vs google group

Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2018-06-18, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: >> Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> writes: >> >>> Gene Heskett wrote: >>> This biggest single thing wrong with any of those old scsi interfaces is the bus's 5 volt isolation diode, the designer speced a shotkey(sp) diode, and

Re: Scanner freakishness [was Re: Python list vs google group]

> On Jun 16, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: > > On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:54:15 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Jim Lee wrote: > >>> I once had a Mustek color scanner that came with a TWAIN driver. If >>> the room temperature was above 80 degrees

Re: Scanner freakishness [was Re: Python list vs google group]

On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:25:52 -0400, William Ray Wing wrote: >> On Jun 16, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Steven D'Aprano >> wrote: >> >> On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:54:15 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Jim Lee wrote: >> I once had a Mustek color scanner that came wit

Re: Scanner freakishness [was Re: Python list vs google group]

Alister wrote: A few quick tests later confirmed that whenever the photocopier made multiple copies (approx 10+) the circuit would reset Cust advised to relocate photocopier, case closed :-) I was expecting the solution to be a note attached to the photocopier saying "Please do not make more

Re: Scanner freakishness [was Re: Python list vs google group]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 10:58 AM, Gregory Ewing wrote: > Alister wrote: >> >> A few quick tests later confirmed that whenever the photocopier made >> multiple copies (approx 10+) the circuit would reset >> Cust advised to relocate photocopier, case closed :-) > > > I was expecting the solution to

Re: Technical altitude, was Re: Python list vs google group

On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 15:59:58 +0200, Peter Otten wrote: > Other than that I find it hard to believe that a "bean counter" can > change a technical spec. He may put pressure on the designer, but when > the designer gives in he's still responsible for the resulting technical > problems. Surely it de

Re: Folk etymology, was Re: Python list vs google group

Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> writes: > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On 2018-06-18, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: >>> Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> writes: >>> Gene Heskett wrote: > This biggest single thing wrong with any of those old scsi interfaces > is the bus's 5 volt isolation diode,

Re: Folk etymology, was Re: Python list vs google group

Peter Otten wrote: "folk etymology" would be the retrofitting of the exotic "Schottky" into two familiar words "shot" and "key". Sometimes the writer assumes that these words are somehow related to the labeled object. Well, there is a thing called "shot noise", and you can probaby get it from

Re: Folk etymology, was Re: Python list vs google group

On 06/18/2018 04:09 PM, Gregory Ewing wrote: Peter Otten wrote: "folk etymology" would be the retrofitting of the exotic "Schottky" into two familiar words "shot" and "key". Sometimes the writer assumes that these words are somehow related to the labeled object. Well, there is a thing call

Re: Folk etymology, was Re: Python list vs google group

On Monday 18 June 2018 19:24:14 Jim Lee wrote: > On 06/18/2018 04:09 PM, Gregory Ewing wrote: > > Peter Otten wrote: > >> "folk etymology" would be the retrofitting of the exotic "Schottky" > >> into two familiar words "shot" and "key". Sometimes the writer > >> assumes that these words are someho