Re: RANT why the *%#&%^ does installing pip not install setuptools???

2018-07-05 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 06 Jul 2018 11:58:08 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: >> On Fri, 06 Jul 2018 03:47:55 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> What's the output of: >>> >>> $ apt-cache show python3-pip >> >> Mysteriously, the output is repeated twice, in

Re: RANT why the *%#&%^ does installing pip not install setuptools???

2018-07-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 06 Jul 2018 03:47:55 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> What's the output of: >> >> $ apt-cache show python3-pip > > Mysteriously, the output is repeated twice, in every-so-slightly > different formats. It's the little details like t

Re: RANT why the *%#&%^ does installing pip not install setuptools???

2018-07-05 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 06 Jul 2018 03:47:55 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > What's the output of: > > $ apt-cache show python3-pip Mysteriously, the output is repeated twice, in every-so-slightly different formats. It's the little details like that give us confidence in the quality of the software... Packa

Re: RANT why the *%#&%^ does installing pip not install setuptools???

2018-07-05 Thread eryk sun
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 5:37 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I'm trying to install pip on a Linux Mint box. The maintainers of Mint > (or possibly their upstream distro, Ubuntu) decided in their infinite > wisdom to remove the ensurepip package, so > > python3 -m ensurepip In Debian distros, a cu

Re: RANT why the *%#&%^ does installing pip not install setuptools???

2018-07-05 Thread Brian J. Oney via Python-list
On Stretch: ~ $ aptitude show python-pip Package: python-pip   Version: 9.0.1-2 ... Maintainer: Debian Python Modules Team ... Depends: ca-certificates, python-pip-whl (= 9.0.1-2), python:any (< 2.8), python:any (>= 2.7.5-5~) Recommends: build-essential, python-all-dev (>= 2.6

Re: RANT why the *%#&%^ does installing pip not install setuptools???

2018-07-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 3:37 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I'm trying to install pip on a Linux Mint box. The maintainers of Mint > (or possibly their upstream distro, Ubuntu) decided in their infinite > wisdom to remove the ensurepip package, so > > python3 -m ensurepip > > fails ("No module na

RANT why the *%#&%^ does installing pip not install setuptools???

2018-07-05 Thread Steven D'Aprano
I'm trying to install pip on a Linux Mint box. The maintainers of Mint (or possibly their upstream distro, Ubuntu) decided in their infinite wisdom to remove the ensurepip package, so python3 -m ensurepip fails ("No module named ensurepip"). Okay, let's do this the hard way: sudo apt