Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-12 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 05-06-13 11:06, Νικόλαος Κούρας schreef: > Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 11:59:28 π.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης alex23 έγραψε: >> On Jun 5, 6:41 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> This matter is far more serious than you seem to be giving it >>> consideration for. You complain that I violated your trust; yo

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-12 Thread Joel Goldstick
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > Τη Τρίτη, 4 Ιουνίου 2013 8:09:18 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico > έγραψε: > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:02 AM, Νικόλαος Κούρας > wrote: > > > > > I'm willing to let someone with full root access to my webhost to see > thigns from the i

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-06 Thread rurpy
On 06/05/2013 08:02 PM, Tim Chase wrote: > On 2013-06-05 17:57, ru...@yahoo.com wrote: >> stories over the years where people where convicted (or >> at least charged with) violating the DMCA (or perhaps >> equally draconian followup U.S. laws) even though they >> clearly penetrated the system to

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Πέμπτη, 6 Ιουνίου 2013 6:57:08 π.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Steven D'Aprano έγραψε: > On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 03:32:42 -0700, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > > [...] > > > You spare it from the list because you wanted to bitch in private. Now > > > sod off. > > > > Νικόλαος, please stop trading insult

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 03:32:42 -0700, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: [...] > You spare it from the list because you wanted to bitch in private. Now > sod off. Νικόλαος, please stop trading insults with people who you feel have wronged you. If somebody gives you deliberately bad advice, that is one thing.

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Tim Chase
On 2013-06-05 17:57, ru...@yahoo.com wrote: > On 06/05/2013 05:19 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > stories over the years where people where convicted (or > at least charged with) violating the DMCA (or perhaps > equally draconian followup U.S. laws) even though they > clearly penetrated the system

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread rurpy
On 06/05/2013 05:19 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 10:29:44 -0700 (PDT), Íéêüëáïò Êïýñáò > declaimed the following in > gmane.comp.python.general: >> >> In the US there is a law called the DMCA which I think would make what >> you did illegal, even though i have you a password,

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Joel Goldstick
Now, you were right about my bad mouth because iam going to tell you to sod off. >Well, if he had ethics he would have told me that his intentiosn were to screw my business and also he could actually tried to help me out. Many times I've seen people here give you their best advice and you co

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 10:13:41 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > Well, if he had ethics he would have told me that his intentiosn were to > > screw my business and also he could actually tried to help me out. > > >

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > Well, if he had ethics he would have told me that his intentiosn were to > screw my business and also he could actually tried to help me out. I did. :) > I'am not incompetentm i;m a beginner and i learn along the way, also i ahve a > hos

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 9:55:46 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης rusi έγραψε: > On Jun 5, 11:34 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > Here is the mails you sent to my customers for the other members to see. > > > > > > In the normal run of things, I would say Chris has done a horrible > > thing. > > In

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:55 AM, rusi wrote: > If you obdurately, obstinately, insistently, incessantly behave like > an asshole, you leave no-one the choice but to treat you like an > asshole. This is Python. We duck-type people. ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 9:52:27 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Zero Piraeus έγραψε: > : > > > > On 5 June 2013 14:34, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > Here is the mails you sent to my customers for the other members to see. > > > --- > > > [...] > > > I advise that you

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread rusi
On Jun 5, 11:34 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > Here is the mails you sent to my customers for the other members to see. In the normal run of things, I would say Chris has done a horrible thing. In this case however, let us remember: Many people -- hardly exclusively Chris -- tried to educate you

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 9:46:03 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:34 AM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > Here is the mails you sent to my customers for the other members to see. > > > > Yep, containing nothing I haven't said on-list. > > > > > Thanks fo

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Zero Piraeus
: On 5 June 2013 14:34, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > Here is the mails you sent to my customers for the other members to see. > --- > [...] > I advise that you look to alternative web hosting. > --- > > Thanks for screwing me up entirely

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:34 AM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > Here is the mails you sent to my customers for the other members to see. Yep, containing nothing I haven't said on-list. > Thanks for screwing me up entirely and made me look what you made me look for > all i did was to trust you. Making

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:22 AM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 9:16:56 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico > έγραψε: > >>Do you contact strangers to ask them to feed your cat? Or do you talk to a >>>trusted friend? > > Well i dont consider you a perfect stranger, because we

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Here is the mails you sent to my customers for the other members to see. --- Greetings. I apologize for this unsolicited email, but I feel that you have a right to know about the security of your server. Νικόλαος Κούρας (Nikos) has been in repeated communication wi

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 9:16:56 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: >Do you contact strangers to ask them to feed your cat? Or do you talk to a >>trusted friend? Well i dont consider you a perfect stranger, because we kind of know each other since we speak here sometime. You know h

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:08 AM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > Anyway, i should'n have given root access to you, i was a bit worried doing > so, but i was also under stress of also correcting this damn encoding issue > and i wanted to think you would be the one that finally help solving it. > > You sh

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 8:47:38 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:29 AM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > Now about what you did to me. I wanted to tell you that I (and I am sure > > there are other people too) don't agree with what you did. I think it was >

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:29 AM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > Now about what you did to me. I wanted to tell you that I (and I am sure > there are other people too) don't agree with what you did. I think it was > pretty rotten -- you told me it was a bad idea to give out the root password > and that

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 8:16:46 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:02 AM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 7:33:50 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico > > έγραψε: > > >> In fact, I didn't even bother fiddling with syslog. All I did

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:02 AM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 7:33:50 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico > έγραψε: >> In fact, I didn't even bother fiddling with syslog. All I did was >> .bash_history. Of course, I wasn't worried about you getting my IP >> addresses (one o

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:05 AM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > I grant shell access to very new account i create but some of my customers > dont evn know the existance of linux, and the other that do, have no idea of > what a shell access is. But i grant them the ability just in cae for future > usag

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 7:35:48 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Joel Goldstick έγραψε: >To solve the OPs problems once and for all, I believe we need to know his >>social security number and his mother's maiden name.  (Yes, i know SSN is for >US >but... ) Even if i gibe you that info, what can you pos

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 7:33:50 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 2:14:34 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Heiko Wundram > > έγραψε: > > >> Am 05.06.2013 13:07, schrieb οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ οΏ½οΏ½οΏ

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 7:37:47 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:46 AM, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: > > > 05.06.13 11:09, Chris Angelico написав(ла): > > >> > > >> Oh, and I changed the root password, since the current one was sent in > > >> clear text ac

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:46 AM, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: > 05.06.13 11:09, Chris Angelico написав(ла): >> >> Oh, and I changed the root password, since the current one was sent in >> clear text across the internet. Nikos, the new password has been >> stored in /home/nikos/new_password - you should

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Joel Goldstick
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας > wrote: > > I will understand by his attitude in general if he is likely to help me > or not. > > How much of my attitude did you read before you decided I would trust > you? Posts like this

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 2:14:34 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Heiko Wundram έγραψε: >> Am 05.06.2013 13:07, schrieb οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½: >> >> >Btw, since history doesnt show me his history comamnds when he logged in >> >f

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > I will understand by his attitude in general if he is likely to help me or > not. How much of my attitude did you read before you decided I would trust you? Posts like this: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-June/648428.ht

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 5:46:57 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Serhiy Storchaka έγραψε: > 05.06.13 11:09, Chris Angelico написав(ла): > > > Oh, and I changed the root password, since the current one was sent in > > > clear text across the internet. Nikos, the new password has been > > > stored in /ho

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
05.06.13 11:09, Chris Angelico написав(ла): Oh, and I changed the root password, since the current one was sent in clear text across the internet. Nikos, the new password has been stored in /home/nikos/new_password - you should be able to access that using your non-root login. I recommend you cha

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 4:16:46 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Mark Lawrence έγραψε: > On 05/06/2013 10:06, οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ wrote: > > > > > Fuck you too and sod off. > > > > > > > You've got a bloody nerve. You're charging people when you haven't the > > faintest id

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 05/06/2013 10:31, Chris Angelico wrote: You most definitely *are* a fool. ChrisA I believe the above is just plain wrong. A fool and his money are easily parted, but this guy won't part with his cash. -- "Steve is going for the pink ball - and for those of you who are watching in bl

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 05/06/2013 11:32, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 12:49:13 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης alex23 έγραψε: On Jun 5, 7:46 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: And here us Alex23 private mail that sent out to me: Which I spared the list from because it was off-topic, but I don't think tha

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 05/06/2013 10:06, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: Fuck you too and sod off. You've got a bloody nerve. You're charging people when you haven't the faintest idea what you're doing, won't pay for technical support, and then have the audacity to complain when people do try to help. As I've said b

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Heiko Wundram
Am 05.06.2013 13:19, schrieb Νικόλαος Κούρας: Is there some logging utility i can use next time iam offering root access to someone(if i do it) or perhaps logging a normal's account activity? Short answer: Not for root, no. Long answer: as I've already said: root can change file contents, or

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 2:14:34 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Heiko Wundram έγραψε: > Am 05.06.2013 13:07, schrieb οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½: > > >Btw, since history doesnt show me his history comamnds when he logged in > >from .au(why not really?), how can i tell what exactly did he

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread alex23
On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > Btw, since history doesnt show me his history comamnds when he logged in from > .au(why not really?) http://lmgtfy.com/?q=centos+clear+command+line+history You're welcome. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Heiko Wundram
Am 05.06.2013 13:07, schrieb Νικόλαος Κούρας: Btw, since history doesnt show me his history comamnds when he logged in from .au(why not really?), how can i tell what exactly did he do when he logged on to the server? As root has full access to your system (i.e., can change file contents and

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 1:39:28 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Antoon Pardon έγραψε: > Op 05-06-13 11:19, οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ schreef: > > > I'am a perosn that eaisly trust other people to have ethics, especially > > python programmers who knows how difficult its to debug a scri

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 05-06-13 11:19, Νικόλαος Κούρας schreef: > I'am a perosn that eaisly trust other people to have ethics, especially > python programmers who knows how difficult its to debug a script and have it > working. > Some people can be trusted, and actually try to help. > Some dont. > Chris is na exampl

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 12:49:13 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης alex23 έγραψε: > On Jun 5, 7:46 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > And here us Alex23 private mail that sent out to me: > > > > Which I spared the list from because it was off-topic, but I don't > > think that's a concept you're overly f

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Heiko Wundram
Am 05.06.2013 12:30, schrieb Νικόλαος Κούρας: You and Heiko of course would be excluded from the programmer for hire list. Guess what: I have a job. And I don't give a damn. -- --- Heiko. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 1:12:55 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:52 PM, alex23 wrote: > > > On Jun 5, 7:48 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > > >> No wonder the economy of Greece is in trouble. > > > > > > This isn't addressed just to Chris, as this isn't th

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Heiko Wundram
Am 05.06.2013 12:21, schrieb Νικόλαος Κούρας: I dont care what you do for a living, you never helped me a bit in anything, you just presented to me your self 1 hour ago to join the party. Guess why I did so: you're presently touching a subject (network safety) that I hold dear, and not only b

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 12:55:49 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Heiko Wundram έγραψε: > Am 05.06.2013 11:33, schrieb οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½: > It's you who's the untrustworthy, completely unreliable and utterly > irresponsible member of the community of networks that's called the

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:52 PM, alex23 wrote: > On Jun 5, 7:48 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: >> No wonder the economy of Greece is in trouble. > > This isn't addressed just to Chris, as this isn't the first time the > joke has been made, but could we not? There's a term for applying the > failings of

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread alex23
On Jun 5, 7:48 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > No wonder the economy of Greece is in trouble. This isn't addressed just to Chris, as this isn't the first time the joke has been made, but could we not? There's a term for applying the failings of an individual to an entire genetic or cultural collectiv

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Heiko Wundram
Am 05.06.2013 11:33, schrieb Νικόλαος Κούρας: It will remain, if you go away. Look, pal, I work as a programmer for a (medium size) network service provider, and due to that I (should) know my networking security 101. It's generally people like you who are: 1) extremely careless about their

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
And here us Alex23 private mail that sent out to me: On Jun 5, 7:06 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > There would have been no violation if he just look into en encoding issue and > not meddled with my customers mail and data. "Waaah, why didn't this stranger do my job for me for free? I'm so confus

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread alex23
On Jun 5, 7:46 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > And here us Alex23 private mail that sent out to me: Which I spared the list from because it was off-topic, but I don't think that's a concept you're overly familiar with given your posting history. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-lis

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > TheRE is this saying that applis to you: > A THIEF BELEIVES EVERYBODY STEALS. > > You do not trust people because you think all of them are likely to screw > you, when its the other way around. You really need to do a basic course in inter

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > iI got back root access and i > > 'rm -y /home/user/public_html/Hello_from_ROSUAV' > so to delete your deface. Thank God you just placed that text file there and > did not deface frontpages. Indeed. That's one of the few truly accurate sta

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 12:31:37 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > I'am a perosn that eaisly trust other people to have ethics, especially > > python programmers who knows how difficult its to debug a script and have >

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 12:29:10 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Heiko Wundram έγραψε: > Am 05.06.2013 11:19, schrieb Chris Angelico: > > > Not quite accurate; he can change his root password back as soon as he > > > logs in as the non-root user and cats one little file. > > > > I understood that - I

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 12:27:20 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > NEXT THIS YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME IS TO BE HAPPY THAT YOU DIDN'T WIPE THE > > WHOLE SYSTEM OUT BY 'RM -RF /' > > > > Yes. Actually, yes. Do you understa

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > I'am a perosn that eaisly trust other people to have ethics, especially > python programmers who knows how difficult its to debug a script and have it > working. > Some people can be trusted, and actually try to help. > Some dont. > Chris

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Heiko Wundram
Am 05.06.2013 11:19, schrieb Chris Angelico: Not quite accurate; he can change his root password back as soon as he logs in as the non-root user and cats one little file. I understood that - I rather got the impression that he (as a person) wasn't technically capable of changing it. Alas, the

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > NEXT THIS YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME IS TO BE HAPPY THAT YOU DIDN'T WIPE THE WHOLE > SYSTEM OUT BY 'RM -RF /' Yes. Actually, yes. Do you understand now what you have done by giving your password to multiple people? This is *completely* different

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Heiko Wundram wrote: > Seeing how riled up you get about this, what Chris did is for the better. At > least it seems that you won't be able to change your root password back, > either, and as such you won't have root access anymore to your system for > the time bein

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 12:04:15 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Heiko Wundram έγραψε: > Am 05.06.2013 10:53, schrieb οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½: > > > I ALSO HAVE GIVEN ROOT ACCESS TO ANOTHER MEMBER OF THIS LIST AND HE IN FACT > > TRIED TO HELP ME INSTEAD OF DOING WHAT YOU DID. AND FRO

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 12:05:36 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > So, iam to blame this for trusting you? > > > > Your clients trust you to not compromise their security. You > > compromised their security by giving

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 11:59:28 π.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης alex23 έγραψε: > On Jun 5, 6:41 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > This matter is far more serious than you seem to be giving it > > > consideration for. You complain that I violated your trust; you > > > violated the trust of people who ar

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Heiko Wundram
Am 05.06.2013 10:53, schrieb Νικόλαος Κούρας: I ALSO HAVE GIVEN ROOT ACCESS TO ANOTHER MEMBER OF THIS LIST AND HE IN FACT TRIED TO HELP ME INSTEAD OF DOING WHAT YOU DID. AND FROM 2 OTHER PEOPLE AS SOME OTHER FORUMS TOO. You know what you're saying there? You've given (at least) four people y

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread alex23
On Jun 5, 6:41 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > This matter is far more serious than you seem to be giving it > consideration for. You complain that I violated your trust; you > violated the trust of people who are paying you money. I think the term I'm looking for here is: EPIC WIN :D -- http://mai

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > So, iam to blame this for trusting you? Your clients trust you to not compromise their security. You compromised their security by giving the root password to a stranger. > YOU COULD HAVE ACTUALLY TRIED TO SEE WHATS WRONG WITH 'FILES.PY' I

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread alex23
On Jun 5, 6:53 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > So, iam to blame this for trusting you? I'm sure you were smart enough to get Chris to sign a contract before giving him the keys to your kingdom, no? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 11:41:55 π.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > > > > I gave you out of my good and trustworthy heart my root password so for you > > to look upon my systrem configuration and all you did was trying

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > I gave you out of my good and trustworthy heart my root password so for you > to look upon my systrem configuration and all you did was trying to fuck me > by sending mails to my clients? That would be "trusting", not "trustworthy", and

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 11:09:50 π.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > Good Day Chris, thanks for accepting. > > > > > > Please mail me and i will send you the root login credentials. > > > > Well, I wasn't sure whether

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > Good Day Chris, thanks for accepting. > > Please mail me and i will send you the root login credentials. Well, I wasn't sure whether this would actually happen or not, but it did. I made it fairly clear to him in multiple posts that I was

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:59 PM, alex23 wrote: > On Jun 5, 2:40 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: >> Of course '/home/nikos/public_html/cgi-bin' = '/home/nikos/www/cgi-bin' >> What this has to do with what i asked? > > You display an error of "No such file or directory" and you wonder why > I'm trying to

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 8:23:12 π.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης alex23 έγραψε: > On Jun 5, 3:11 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > I'm not trolling, you are the one that do not understand. > > > > > > Here i swicthed the code from: > > > path = "/home/nikos/www/data/apps/" > > > > > > to this since '

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread alex23
On Jun 5, 3:11 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > I'm not trolling, you are the one that do not understand. > > Here i swicthed the code from: > path = "/home/nikos/www/data/apps/" > > to this since '/home/nikos/public_html/cgi-bin' = '/home/nikos/www/cgi-bin' > as i said: > > # Compute a set of curren

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 7:59:31 π.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης alex23 έγραψε: > On Jun 5, 2:40 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > Of course '/home/nikos/public_html/cgi-bin' = '/home/nikos/www/cgi-bin' > > > What this has to do with what i asked? > > > > You display an error of "No such file or direc

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread alex23
On Jun 5, 2:40 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > Of course '/home/nikos/public_html/cgi-bin' = '/home/nikos/www/cgi-bin' > What this has to do with what i asked? You display an error of "No such file or directory" and you wonder why I'm trying to confirm the two locations are the same. Can you finall

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 7:34:55 π.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης alex23 έγραψε: > On Jun 5, 1:55 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > [Wed Jun 05 06:49:56 2013] [error] [client 46.12.95.59] (2)No such file or > > directory: exec of '/home/nikos/public_html/cgi-bin/koukos.py' failed > > > > > The script t

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Here is the script: #!/usr/bin/python # coding=utf-8 import cgitb; cgitb.enable() import cgi, os, sys, locale, codecs from http import cookies #needed line, script does *not* work without it sys.stdout = codecs.getwriter('utf-8')(sys.stdout.detach()) # initializ

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread alex23
On Jun 5, 1:55 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > [Wed Jun 05 06:49:56 2013] [error] [client 46.12.95.59] (2)No such file or > directory: exec of '/home/nikos/public_html/cgi-bin/koukos.py' failed > The script though its interpretign  correctly as seen from > ni...@superhost.gr [~/www/cgi-bin]# python

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 1:12:26 π.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > I know what full root access mean. > > > I also trust you. > > > I'm hopeless man, its 1 week now dealing with this. > > > > The call is strong... I

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > I know what full root access mean. > I also trust you. > I'm hopeless man, its 1 week now dealing with this. The call is strong... I could rule the galaxy alongside my father... I've searched my feelings, and I know this to be true! Okay.

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τρίτη, 4 Ιουνίου 2013 8:09:18 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:02 AM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > I'm willing to let someone with full root access to my webhost to see > > thigns from the inside. > > > > > > Does someone want to take o allok or at ela

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:02 AM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > I'm willing to let someone with full root access to my webhost to see thigns > from the inside. > > Does someone want to take o allok or at elast tell me what else i need to > try, that hasn't been tried out yet? You need to read up on wh

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
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Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Joel Goldstick
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 1:06 AM, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick > wrote: > >> [1] http://www.oocities.org/timessquare/4753/bofh.htm > >> -- > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > > > > Please link and read at the BOFH’s page.

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 1:06 AM, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote: >> [1] http://www.oocities.org/timessquare/4753/bofh.htm >> -- >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > > Please link and read at the BOFH’s page. [0] is the page and [1] is > this exact story. > > [0]: http://bofh.nt

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > I don't know much about the Python suexec module, can you please explain > where it's documented. Or is suexec nothing to do with Python? From Wikipedia: > Apache suEXEC is a feature of the Apache Web server. It allows users to run > CGI an

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 04/06/2013 15:40, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: Τη Τρίτη, 4 Ιουνίου 2013 5:33:03 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: I DONT KNOW WHAT ELSE TO TRY PLEASE HELP ILL TRY ANYTHING YOU SAY. You should try power surging your drivers. Have you got a spare power cord? Jokes are funny, but its

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τρίτη, 4 Ιουνίου 2013 5:33:03 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: > > I DONT KNOW WHAT ELSE TO TRY PLEASE HELP ILL TRY ANYTHING YOU SAY. > You should try power surging your drivers. Have you got a spare power cord? Jokes are funny, but its over a week now the script is correct and t

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > I DONT KNOW WHAT ELSE TO TRY PLEASE HELP ILL TRY ANYTHING YOU SAY. You should try power surging your drivers. Have you got a spare power cord? ChrisA [1] http://www.oocities.org/timessquare/4753/bofh.htm -- http://mail.python.org/mailma

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τρίτη, 4 Ιουνίου 2013 4:10:58 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας > wrote: > > > root@nikos [~]# nano /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf > > and altering user nobody to user root. > > root@nikos [~]# service httpd restart > > > [Tu

RE: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Carlos Nepomuceno
> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 05:57:54 -0700 > Subject: Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script > From: nikos.gr...@gmail.com > To: python-list@python.org > > root@nikos [~]# nano /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf > > and altering user nobody to us

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > root@nikos [~]# nano /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf > > and altering user nobody to user root. > > root@nikos [~]# service httpd restart > [Tue Jun 04 15:56:42 2013] [warn] module rpaf_module is already loaded, > skipping > Syntax error

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
root@nikos [~]# nano /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf and altering user nobody to user root. root@nikos [~]# service httpd restart [Tue Jun 04 15:56:42 2013] [warn] module rpaf_module is already loaded, skipping Syntax error on line 175 of /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf: Error:\tApache has no

Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Νικόλαος Κούρας
Τη Τρίτη, 4 Ιουνίου 2013 3:11:18 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Carlos Nepomuceno έγραψε: > > Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 04:48:34 -0700 > > Subject: Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script > > From: nikos...@gmail.com > > To: pytho...@python.org > > >

RE: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script

2013-06-04 Thread Carlos Nepomuceno
> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 04:48:34 -0700 > Subject: Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script > From: nikos.gr...@gmail.com > To: python-list@python.org > > Τη Τρίτη, 4 Ιουνίου 2013 2:42:52 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Carlos Nepomuceno > έγραψε: > &

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